What Even is Len'en!?!?!? | Len'en 1 + 2 Mini-Reviews

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  • So like, what is Len'en? Most Touhou fans know it exists, but don't know anything about it. I had no idea of anything, so I thought I would dive into the series to celebrate this special day. Join me as I share my Len'en experience!
    Huge thanks to my friend Spear for the drawing the thumbnail for the video! Tsubakura truly is a Squidward: / speargsun
    Want to learn more about Len'en? Check out the Len'en wiki: lenen.shoutwik...
    My Community Discord: / discord
    Outro Music arranged by Wookywok: / wookywok
    My Patreon: / megapig9001
    #lenen

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  • @PichuunCollector
    @PichuunCollector 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +100

    Not to be confused with Stal'en Project

    • @Lepayoko
      @Lepayoko 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      we enacting the 5 year plan with this one 🗣🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯

    • @Experemented
      @Experemented 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      glas'en

  • @jvts8916
    @jvts8916 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    Probably my favourite little detail of Len'en is how it has two official Vtubers that are older than the hololive boom.

    • @Fishnberg
      @Fishnberg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      and the creator themself debute and do stuff as a vtuber themselves.
      :D

    • @victorpedrosoceolin3919
      @victorpedrosoceolin3919 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Common jynx W

  • @Mugenri
    @Mugenri 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    0:16 look ma I'm on tv!

    • @Mugenri
      @Mugenri 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      14:22 I'M ON TV AGAIN

  • @aleph_d
    @aleph_d 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    The comrade has come
    Anyway, as a veteran of this series of 8 years, your review is actually pretty solid and I'm glad that you enjoyed your time here!
    For the criticism of first game, that being characters knowing eachother firsthand before the incident, is a bit unwarranted imo and is something that modern Touhou starts to struggle with too on a worse level (such Sannyo knowing Sanae or Enoko knowing Marisa with no build-up). Once you start reading the story more and more, you start to understand their dynamics and it helps to set up the mystery as to what characters were like before they got spirited away since our characters are quite notorious in outside world (and yeah I feel like that point should've stressed even more that characters were *spirited away* and not pre-established in the setting, and with the knowledge that the mastermind was sniping for Tsubakura, it kind of makes sense as to why a lot of "familiar" characters are here, it wouldn't make any sense for some nobody who is unfamiliar with everyone to be here). And overall a tip of advice I have is to read Prologues and Character Profiles as they provide the tidbits of who these characters are and what situation they find themselves in (and in 4th game, something really important happens in prologue wink-wink)
    And overall Len'en is much more story and character-based than Touhou, so it is important to read various character interactions, and it starts to kick off massively in 3rd game (where it also introduces the best homunculus blorb) and character arcs are also more prominent, like Kuroji becoming more and more amoral and despicable, yet still retaining that hidden part of them that might be more gentle and traumatized. It is very weird to see a review that's more gameplay focused, considering not even Len'en fans like it (there's a reason why "JynX balancing" is a meme), but maybe it's for the better? Dunno, again, it might be due to spoiler reasons, but I wish story was touched upon more, like Adagumo's siblings' tragedy ( -and the only good thing about EMS, don't @ me- ) and the premise of the first game, but oh well
    Would love to see further coverage since you seem to like the series, and I already really love your vids, so best of wishes from the local Russian fan (just for the love of Joseph Stalin DO NOT play BotC, not only is it dead, it's not good; and I'm speaking from the guy who is a self proclaimed sovereign of BotC)
    -Also props for refraining from mentioning the birb like that frogge guy did, that birb is very important-

  • @zerodofin936
    @zerodofin936 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Lenin project

  • @user-ly2nx7ss2x
    @user-ly2nx7ss2x 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I used to be obsessed with len'en... maybe i'll get back into it

  • @foxxbaker
    @foxxbaker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Love to see an actual good level review from a Touhou fan, hope to see you check out 3 and 4

  • @devalous8281
    @devalous8281 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    It’s quite funny to see this as I’ve been trying to get into Len’en recently and JynX just released a video announcing Steam remakes of the first 4 games(but those will most likely be late 2020s considering the other projects going on)

    • @Megapig9001
      @Megapig9001  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      The remake for Len’en 1 having a Suika Game mechanic for collecting items is exactly the type of out of left field idea to expect lmao

    • @devalous8281
      @devalous8281 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@Megapig9001 On JynX’s live streams he occasionally has a thing setup that has all of the Len’en character’s heads rolling and bouncing around in an obstacle course to entertain people and when they don’t make it to the goal in time they explode so having Suika Game inside of a Len’en game is probably one of the least unhinged things he could’ve done

    • @DragonEnthusiast
      @DragonEnthusiast 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Excuse me, the Len’en games are getting remakes?! Where did you find this?

    • @devalous8281
      @devalous8281 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DragonEnthusiast on JynX's YT channel, specifically this video: th-cam.com/video/_C-LrI6gF9c/w-d-xo.htmlsi=yKGoMog5r54pGF6H

    • @DragonEnthusiast
      @DragonEnthusiast 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@devalous8281 I’m happy, but skeptical, did you notice the day it was posted on?

  • @BuwakoBuwako
    @BuwakoBuwako 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    this is not what i expected today. but im happy to see it
    please update us when you play len'en 4. that game is wild

    • @Megapig9001
      @Megapig9001  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I’ve done a bit of it, but the fact you actually have to physically be to the left or right of the screen to move is so funny

    • @BuwakoBuwako
      @BuwakoBuwako 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Megapig9001 it can be brutal. especially in the extra stage

    • @victorpedrosoceolin3919
      @victorpedrosoceolin3919 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Len'en 4 is the most content packed stg i have ever seen, it's a ride for sure it's like, 2.5 games in one
      It's also incredibly unbalanced, for both the enemies and you

    • @BuwakoBuwako
      @BuwakoBuwako 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@victorpedrosoceolin3919 i agree with it being really dense with content

    • @victorpedrosoceolin3919
      @victorpedrosoceolin3919 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@BuwakoBuwako 4 extra bosses is a lot

  • @diren_was_here
    @diren_was_here 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    western fandom: "TOBY FOKS STOEL TOUHO!!11!!!!1!!😡😡"
    eastern fandom:

    • @rasmusmalmberg6468
      @rasmusmalmberg6468 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Of course, the truth is that Undertale copied Len'en, but the world was never quite ready for that information

    • @kapifromnevada4697
      @kapifromnevada4697 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wasn’t that back in 2016

    • @yabusamehoulen7636
      @yabusamehoulen7636 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@rasmusmalmberg6468they especially stole Sans from Sese Kitsugai.

    • @Aaa-vp6ug
      @Aaa-vp6ug หลายเดือนก่อน

      “No he doesn’t.” - Stoel Touho

    • @diren_was_here
      @diren_was_here หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@kapifromnevada4697 yeah don't mind me i'm not funny

  • @SubPriestPepsi
    @SubPriestPepsi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    lean project!!!

    • @akeem2983
      @akeem2983 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mean Bean Project

  • @DarklyLSL
    @DarklyLSL 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Just happened to find your channel from this vid. Len'en 1 and 2 are very similar to Touhou in a lot of ways, but starting with Len'en 3, the series very much becomes its own thing. I personally find the dialogue in Len'en games more memorable than Touhou's, especially starting from Len'en 3 because you play as multiple characters, much like Touhou 8. In Len'en 4, ALL five teams of three characters has dialogue for every boss, and all bosses make a return for Len'en 4. It's a lot of making fun of every boss and each other for one reason or another, and it's very funny. Not to mention Suzumi, who I hope you manage to find out about on your own, it's a character that Touhou characters cannot compare to in mystery... I do hope you go on to enjoy the other games!

  • @Multi006
    @Multi006 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    len'en moment

  • @pressetoascend
    @pressetoascend 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    len'en video!!! thank you so much!

  • @artiomplay1165
    @artiomplay1165 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    thank you for making this review vid of len'en project, i can't wait for the next one!

  • @livegeoduck5798
    @livegeoduck5798 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Oh boy Len'en! I started getting into the series myself a couple months ago and its been a while ride. I admittedly haven't played much of the first two games, just a few normal runs and one run of each easy extra. But I've played the third game more and I like it a lot. I'd easily say it's up there with some of my favorite main series Touhou games. I played a lot of the fourth game too, but the fourth game is also quite large. I played it for over 15 hours and still never ended up beating the extra stage.
    The series has some really good lore too. After finishing each game I felt compelled to go read all of the info about each game's story and characters on the wiki.
    It's got really good music too. And like Touhou its music is what made me want to get into it.

  • @cinder-squad
    @cinder-squad 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Speak of the devil and it shall appear. I was just thinking about trying the games out after having Enraku's theme on repeat for the past week. I might have to give it a shot now xD

  • @bagelmeister2295
    @bagelmeister2295 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So glad you made this!!! Len'en might be a bit rough with the game design but people need to try it!

  • @proximaeon
    @proximaeon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sorry if I mention this but Misremembered Memories is supposed to be a even more complex battle against Tsurubami Senri after the events of the last game.
    Like before I became a complete fan, I heard that many Spell Cards that Tsurubami uses are inspired in different characters, and now I see those references. There's even the silhouette of the character behind the Tori, although because of the background color is hard to see.

  • @DeltaPie
    @DeltaPie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    len'en hijacks in the outside world...

  • @92web34
    @92web34 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wish more touhou fans were into lenen the music is simply fantastic and imo a lot more bombastic

  • @IkaraPopsicle
    @IkaraPopsicle 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Lenen is touhou but the characters are made of lemon hybrids

  • @cryprism976
    @cryprism976 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oh my god, a len'en thing!✨

  • @czarnakoza9697
    @czarnakoza9697 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    its touhou but on meth

  • @chaoticmemories
    @chaoticmemories 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Not bad! Idk about you but I think saying that the characters gender (except for Haru and Hoojiro) is up to interpretation could be cool and less confusing to new players wondering why the characters are represented in lots of different ways gender-wise.

    • @Megapig9001
      @Megapig9001  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I actually had to go through the script and make sure that I put “they and them” for everyone. From playing, I imagined Hibaru speaking with a masculine voice and noticed in dialogue they used “Mx.”

    • @chaoticmemories
      @chaoticmemories 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Megapig9001 hmhm, it's bc since I watched with captions cuz I'm outside of my house I noticed you mentioned Kuroji as a she, not trying to disrespect your gender hc by any means, just pointing out for newcommers.

    • @Megapig9001
      @Megapig9001  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@chaoticmemories oh if I did include that, then it was a mistake. Whoops!

    • @DarklyLSL
      @DarklyLSL 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The characters gender is up to viewer interpretation, if you view Kuroji as a girl then you are welcome to use she. It only becomes a problem when someone tries to declare for a fact that X character is X gender, which hasn't been done at all. Use whatever prefixes you like~!

    • @chaoticmemories
      @chaoticmemories 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DarklyLSL didn't meant to sound rude 🙇

  • @spidermacho123
    @spidermacho123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thanks for making a video on len'en! it's always nice to see this series get more recognition!
    also, make sure to read the lore, go to the wiki to read the character profiles and prologues and extra stories and stuff. the story is like my favorite thing about len'en ( most of touhou lore is also in character profiles btw)
    undertale is a ripoff of len'en.

  • @KOINOYOKUSHIRYOKU
    @KOINOYOKUSHIRYOKU 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Len'en is touhou if it was good

    • @victorpedrosoceolin3919
      @victorpedrosoceolin3919 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That's harsh, i would say it's touhou but less polished and the story matters

    • @mrhoundeye1064
      @mrhoundeye1064 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Touhou but what the fuck are genders

    • @akeem2983
      @akeem2983 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Team Shanghai Alice if they were a good band

    • @KOINOYOKUSHIRYOKU
      @KOINOYOKUSHIRYOKU 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@akeem2983 TRUE

  • @mustardkrisame281
    @mustardkrisame281 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rlly liked this video

  • @514komeiji5
    @514komeiji5 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lean or no lean hmmmmmm

  • @zhaohuangsfm
    @zhaohuangsfm 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I still struggle to get into Len'en PROJECT

  • @nico1520
    @nico1520 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I remember trying len'en 1 many years ago and thinking it was boring af. Couldn't get into it.

    • @Megapig9001
      @Megapig9001  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It’s been patched to add stuff from later games, so maybe that will help

  • @syncswim
    @syncswim 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does it have any borrowed assets from Touhou though? (it looks like it does but maybe not) If it's using Touhou assets but isn't a derivative work doesn't that technically put it in violation of ZUN's copyright rules?

    • @Megapig9001
      @Megapig9001  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      It doesn’t. Everything is original

    • @R8Spike
      @R8Spike 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      There's some instraments that are the same but that's just using the same sound libary not stealing

    • @Yuureiki
      @Yuureiki หลายเดือนก่อน

      No borrowed assets here. JynX had good experience with remaking ZUN's PC-98 games down to a T that they can just make their own original assets. Some sounds may sound familiar, but that's just because JynX either got them from the same keyboard that ZUN does (SD-90 something, can't remember) or got them from the same website (some of ZUN's sound effects are just heavily modified royalty-free sounds found online).

  • @captainalexaaa1796
    @captainalexaaa1796 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We have touhou at home

  • @abd-animation-22
    @abd-animation-22 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never heard of this

  • @notlol1
    @notlol1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Touhou bad Cave terrible Len'en GOOD

  • @EpikBirb
    @EpikBirb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Plants vs. Zombies 2. A grindy, greedy, unbalanced-

  • @wandomwindow
    @wandomwindow 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sounds like a muslim holiday

  • @AmonGus-sb3xy
    @AmonGus-sb3xy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    wtf 👍

  • @leonidtimofeev1178
    @leonidtimofeev1178 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just can't get over how... "desaturated" and grayish-brown these games look like, both backgrounds and characters. They just look unappealing. Compared to Touhou's bright colors and distinct memorable character designs (whatever you say about ZUN's drawing skills) it's like David Yates vs. Wes Anderson.

    • @SubPriestPepsi
      @SubPriestPepsi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Yea it's a stylistic choice, I really like it but I can see the reasons to not like it.

    • @victorpedrosoceolin3919
      @victorpedrosoceolin3919 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I really dig It, fits the more bleak world comparing to touhou
      But no biggie if it isnt in your alley!

    • @ethirium4389
      @ethirium4389 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe the stages aesthetic look like that, but the music is the exact opposite!

    • @Yuureiki
      @Yuureiki หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a stylistic choice. This is also reflected in JynX's PC-98 remakes (but there are April Fools videos that they put out; the Re:SoEW one is partly real, just not released to the public ever)