Cole summed it up: Bertrand had a superiority complex and thought his conduit power would fulfill Kessler's prophecy to defeat the Beast AND be the shining soldier of God. But when his power was revealed to be the ability to become an Abomination it turned to jealousy against those with 'better' powers for lack of a better term. It's a if I can't then nobody can. I just know that if Bertrand got another less demon like power he wouldn't even think about conduit genocide
@@finnheisenheim8274 In his mind: "Why would God curse me, a devout servant in his name, to be an uncontrollable monstrosity? If I'm an abomination, then all Conduits are mistakes."
"Conduits aren't monsters. No, see powers don't kill people. Oh no, it's the person behind the powers that kill people." that's right, cole! you tell that hypocrite!
Glitchy Dion not really powers in infamous are similar to a gun in real life. Guns don’t kill people. It’s the person holding the gun that kill people. You can use a gun to hurt or protect people it depends on the person holding the gun
Bertrand was already twisted before he became a conduit. Horrified by what he had become after activating his powers, his view of conduits changed from at best admiration to genocidal obsession. I think the RFI's true intent was what Dr. Wolfe tried to tell Cole and Kuo about before his final accident.
I wish I could do the same as Bertrand whenever I lose an argument. "no, see powers don't kill people. Oh no, it's the person behind the powers that kill people". "Oh yeah? Well....urm....fuck off!" *turn into giant monster*
The final part can definitely be seen differently depending on what path you're playing, in the good path, it's almost trying to make him change his ways, conduits aren't monsters, while in the evil path it's more of a threat
I agree. It makes sense in either scenario. Good Cole, basically: "Bertrand, you don't have to be a killer!" Evil Cole, basically: "Oh, you think conduits are killers? Not all of them, but you're dealing with one right now."
It’s more like Cole is calling out Bertrand on his bs about Conduits being evil by indirectly saying that Bertrand is evil by is own admission, not because of his powers.
Augustine’s reasons are more related in a good cause category as she wanted to protect her kind from annihilation from the government n the people, even though she’s hunting them all down n caging them like animals, while Bertrand tried to convince the world to hate all superhumans and eradicate them just bcuz he hated the powers he was given. Funny coming from an old looney who is a godworshipper but also a murderer who murdered god knows how many including nixs family just to get powers of his own with the ray sphere
Yeah and what really cracked me up about that moment is that it totally sounded like something Kessler would say which isn't surprising since Kessler is an alternate timeline/reality version of Cole Macgrath
Wait, wait, wait. I have played this game a million times, and have never realized, that his is the same guy who did Cutter in Uncharted (Graham McTavish)?! I thought, he was british! Man, he's good!
My greatest issue with Infamous 2 is that they spend FAR too much time on Bertrand, at the expense of The Beast, and the other Conduits. After you defeat him, then the plot shifts back to "Oh right we have to deal with The Beast". The unnatural pause put on The Beast to deal with Bertrand makes no sense. There's too much dialogue between Cole and Bertrand, than John/The Beast and Cole.
I know you commented a year ago but I thought I’d still respond. I agree they should of put more emphasis on the beast. In fact the transition back to the beast arc after this mission was a little awkward but bertand was a great villain. Maybe not as good as Kessler but nobody was really gonna top that. Maybe if they made a trilogy where the beast shows up in infamous 3? Just speculating but they could of kept all of infamous 2 story just exclude the beast and in infamous 3 the beast is the one and only villain. They even could of had a faction of conduits who got there powers from the beast and they were trying to stop Cole.
I personally liked Bertrand more than the beast but yes I agree that the beast needed to be focused on a lot more in mid game not just right after Bertrand’s death
@@thunderstruck6022 Not really a copy, she more like his polar opposite. Bertrand wanted to destroy all conduits to justify his self-hatred for being denied the powers and heroic destiny as a messianic conduit he thought he deserved when he got those mutation powers. Augustine pretended to be an Anti-Conduit Conduit leader of an task force of Conduit hunters who wanted to lock up all conduits to 'protect' them from human persecution...even though she was truthfully just full of shit and didn't know the meaning of the word "Sancturary" with her Prison 42 style prison where they are locked up forever in cells and even experimented on. Genosha and the X-Mansion Curdun Cay is definitely not. I'd rather have taken my chances with humanity than take her 'protection' if i was a conduit. I liked bertrand and Kessler better as antagonists honestly. Augustine was just a Magneto Wannabe.
@@thunderstruck6022 I would have liked to have seen that idea be how things went for a third game with cole, imagine cole fighting an army of Conduits ala The Last Stand...only they'd probably be suped up to full power by The Beast so it'd be way more epic.
I about spit out my drink the first time I heard this and Cole was making fun of Bertrand's "demon of empire city" line, complete with his intentionally crappy New Marais accent. 😆😅🤣
I really hate the cultish ones. Now obviously, Joseph is not representative of the whole of Christianity. Lots of Christians can attest to that, but I'm hardly religious and even I know he's a rare kind of asshole. "Oh, I finally get it; you thought the Ray Sphere was gonna turn you into some sort of shiny superhuman, but instead it turned you into a fifty foot maggot." Indeed, he caused many to die just so that he could be stronger than the common people, but the only reason he changed his ways was because he was disgusted with what he looked like. Look, Cole was tricked into turning into a superhuman at the expense of hundreds, and if you're following the good path, he uses that power to help the people. Joseph actively caused the death of people he judged as rotten, which there's a good chance some of them were mostly innocent, and became rotten himself. "Conduits aren't monsters. No, see, powers don't kill people. Oh no; it's the person behind the powers that kill people." Not that the good version of Cole experienced the following firsthand, but a Conduit's personality does affect what direction your powers go as they evolve. Taking the easy route at the expense of many will make them more chaotic. Perhaps if Joseph didn't use his perceived generosity as an excuse to kill and instead try to find a way to somehow help others using this power, take personal accountability for his actions, or maybe just forego that power if it really does turn you into a mindless beast, there's a good chance he'd be a bit sympathetic, but that was not the game's intentions. Not that I disapprove of him being unsympathetic, but it's quite impressive that despite his charity and belief in his cause, even the game acknowledged him as wrong. Infamous really knew how to treat their villains, and that's a sign of a great story for me.
Guys like Bertrand and Alden were disfigured in some ways. Like their conduits were a manifestation of the corruption that they both harbor on the inside. Guess it's true what they say, as above so below. Whats on the inside eventually comes out.
Tbh infa,mous 2 is an amazing game but the only problem is the beast He was so overhyped after the 1st part and basically the entire storyline And in the end we get an easy battle that didn't even last long Even Bertrand's creature were so much harder(max difficulty)
@@IDeVOeSYT While that's fair enough, I wonder if that is because The Beast was losing power by the time he reached New Marais. In the evil playthrough, he ended up dying of exhaustion and had to give Cole his power.
@@WillieManga well, he definitely got weakened during the whole story. But in the begging basic people just burned to nonexistence when they where close enough to the beast. In the comix scenes he was spawning volcanoes, hard to believe he got weakened that much.
@earthraisednamek The only reason that is is goal is because he is pissed at being made into something from clash of the titans. If the ray sphere had made him like a super powered human like cole. His goal would probably have been to destroy humanity and replace it with conduits.
The saddest part is that Bertrand didn't have to be a villain. He could have been a force for good, A great one at that, He could have used the militia to protect new marais from the corrupted, And helped other conduits gain power, so they could also aid in fighting the corrupted. He could have been a mentor and helper towards Cole, helping him track down the blast cores and fight the ice solider bitches. But none of that happened, Because he couldn't, no, wouldn't see past his superiority complex and twisted devotion to the lord, Christ never said you should genocide people for having superpowers, especially if they are heroic like Cole.
@Myrid-oo4xm Cole never asked for his powers, and he became a great hero with them. Even Bertrand admits that God has forgiven Cole for what he is (even if Bertrand has not)
While also proving Bertrand's complete hypocritical beliefs that all Conduits all monsters like himself dead wrong, even if Bertrand wasn't alive to see it.
I know this comment is nine months old but... Science is based on a bit of faith too...not the same kind of faith...but nothing in science is "definitively" fact, things can only be reinforced, but the concept behind them can never be proven, its the whole reason science works, its faith the rules you discover are true, with facts to provide evidence for that truth, but someone else can come along and potentially disprove them.
That is a good point but the way i see it is that science is based on facts and hypothesis while religion is based on faith alone, thats kinda the only reason i say they dont go together.
@@rattlesnakejake956 How is he a hypocrite? He says that conduits are monsters, and can you not agree? What conduits have we met before? Sasha was a manipulative psychopath pumping poison into the populace. The conduits under her command are bloodthirsty drug dealers, murderers and rapists. Alden was a bitter, self centered old man tearing anyone and everything apart to achieve his goals. The conduits under his command are vengeful and spiteful social pariahs and homeless men. Kessler was an older version of Cole responsible for the death of who knows how many innocents by allowing the early creation, and use, of the ray sphere- all in order to destroy The Beast, an incredibly powerful *conduit.* Then there's Betrand, a conduit who's power is to turn into, and create- biological and mindless homicidal monsters that look like necromorphs. And Nix? A borderline insane pyromaniac who tries to keep said monsters as pets. The plague? Caused by the ray sphere, which is used for creating conduits. And Cole, the protagonist? It's not like we've never seen him murder countless innocents before. Both games go into detail about the possibility of him turning into a completely evil and belligerent homicidal maniac who plows through crowds with shock grenades. The world would be better if conduits just never existed.
@@cynabrum That is an extremely pessimistic and flawed viewpoint to have. Not all Conduits are monsters; they're just people like everyone else. Cole MacGrath and Delsin Rowe can go out of their way to protect people at the cost of bodily harm or even death, and Abigail Walker while a vigilante still goes out of her way to protect innocents by killing only criminals. And Bertrand is a hypocrite because for all his "Conduits are demons" talk, he seems to wipe out every one of them except for himself. He and his Militia also repeatedly persecute their "fellow" humans in New Marais, as shown by the cutscenes with Nix's family, Lucy Kuo and the creation of the Corrupted. He doesn't care about the betterment of mankind; he's just a raving narcissist.
@@rattlesnakejake956 Longer term goals over short term. If you want to end the human race, causing nuclear warfare is a lot more efficient alternative than comitting suicide. Bertrand is looking towards the future. Make everyone absolutely despise conduits, and soon they will be exterminated whenever spotted. Won't exactly erase their existence, but will make sure that they are instantly villanized and killed before they can actually villanize. A preemptive measure- 90% chance to be completely evil and 10% to not be, better to just never take the risk in the first place. Would have been even better to have just never built a damn Ray Sphere. And let's be real, the good guy with superpowers is a myth. Excessive power given to anyone or anything is always going to end up terribly. Bertrand, Sasha, Alden, Cole. What is more realistic? Cole at the beginning of Infamous, zapping crooks and saving lives- or using just enough of his power to get what he wants, when he wants? And those little evils building up until he ends up becoming ruthless and sadistic? Doesn't really matter though. In the end of the second game, either all of the conduits die, or conduits wage a genocidal war on humanity and end up proving my point. Win Win. (Didn't really mention Second Sons because I've never played it. Want to, though.)
Cole summed it up: Bertrand had a superiority complex and thought his conduit power would fulfill Kessler's prophecy to defeat the Beast AND be the shining soldier of God. But when his power was revealed to be the ability to become an Abomination it turned to jealousy against those with 'better' powers for lack of a better term. It's a if I can't then nobody can. I just know that if Bertrand got another less demon like power he wouldn't even think about conduit genocide
So all this happened because the guy was butthurt that he got shit powers
@@finnheisenheim8274 pretty much
@@finnheisenheim8274 In his mind: "Why would God curse me, a devout servant in his name, to be an uncontrollable monstrosity? If I'm an abomination, then all Conduits are mistakes."
Well hes a retard for doing it in the swamp I'm sure there were experiments conducted where many powers were often generated by their surroundings
@@greedgod5827 Maybe. Or it's just what he was meant to become.
"Conduits aren't monsters. No, see powers don't kill people. Oh no, it's the person behind the powers that kill people."
that's right, cole! you tell that hypocrite!
lostboy09100 That quote definitely feels awkward if you have evil karma during that cutscene
Glitchy Dion not really powers in infamous are similar to a gun in real life.
Guns don’t kill people. It’s the person holding the gun that kill people. You can use a gun to hurt or protect people it depends on the person holding the gun
It’s not the powers you are given, it’s what you do with it that matters.
Everyone replying to this is failing to see the bigger picture. Power of any kind doesn't kill people. It's the ones wielding it.
It is not our abilities that show what we truly are. It is our choices.
Bertrand was already twisted before he became a conduit. Horrified by what he had become after activating his powers, his view of conduits changed from at best admiration to genocidal obsession. I think the RFI's true intent was what Dr. Wolfe tried to tell Cole and Kuo about before his final accident.
I wish I could do the same as Bertrand whenever I lose an argument.
"no, see powers don't kill people. Oh no, it's the person behind the powers that kill people".
"Oh yeah? Well....urm....fuck off!" *turn into giant monster*
The final part can definitely be seen differently depending on what path you're playing, in the good path, it's almost trying to make him change his ways, conduits aren't monsters, while in the evil path it's more of a threat
I agree. It makes sense in either scenario.
Good Cole, basically: "Bertrand, you don't have to be a killer!"
Evil Cole, basically: "Oh, you think conduits are killers? Not all of them, but you're dealing with one right now."
It’s more like Cole is calling out Bertrand on his bs about Conduits being evil by indirectly saying that Bertrand is evil by is own admission, not because of his powers.
This is one of my favorite cutscenes in the game
Best boss fight
Same.
Same
100%
One of my favorite cutscenes too
I like how Augustine and Bertrand are total opposites with the same goal in mind, control over people.
Augustine wanted to save the world through overprotectiveness, while Bertrand wanted to save the world through killing the strong.
Augustine wanted control over conduits, Bertrand wanted total annihilation of the conduits
Augustine’s reasons are more related in a good cause category as she wanted to protect her kind from annihilation from the government n the people, even though she’s hunting them all down n caging them like animals, while Bertrand tried to convince the world to hate all superhumans and eradicate them just bcuz he hated the powers he was given. Funny coming from an old looney who is a godworshipper but also a murderer who murdered god knows how many including nixs family just to get powers of his own with the ray sphere
DO YOU REALLY THING I AM THE DEMON??? THE DEMON OF EMIRE CITEH?
I about spit out my drink the first time I heard Cole say that 😁😆😅🤣
0:55
he really sound Texas or even Southern with that Accent
"Powers dont kill people, oh no........ The Goverment does."
Lol
Infamous 2 accidentally (or advertently) being pro-2A?
@@grilledcheesinator55its definitely not accidental
The voice acting was great and I honestly liked Bertrand as a villain.
"They are a product of science!" But wait Conduits existed even before the Ray Sphere Explosion the hell is he talking about?
He's just having a hissy fit because his powers suck
Anyone else get chills when Cole says Maggot
Yeah and what really cracked me up about that moment is that it totally sounded like something Kessler would say which isn't surprising since Kessler is an alternate timeline/reality version of Cole Macgrath
"The Deemun of Empiyah Citeh!" still cracks me up
I like how cole turns into A southern guy for a split second 0:56
Anyone else ever play this game so much they memorized almost every dialogue of it? or was that just me?
This scene and the “I gotta try” scene are literally burned into my brain
I don't know if this was the intention but this is a nice metaphor for gun rights arguments nowadays
Wait, wait, wait. I have played this game a million times, and have never realized, that his is the same guy who did Cutter in Uncharted (Graham McTavish)?! I thought, he was british! Man, he's good!
He also played lazarevic in uncharted 2
WHATTT thats so cool
1:59 Video game violence debate in a nutshell.
XD "the demon of EMMPIIAAA CITIAAY!" i lol'd
0:56
My greatest issue with Infamous 2 is that they spend FAR too much time on Bertrand, at the expense of The Beast, and the other Conduits. After you defeat him, then the plot shifts back to "Oh right we have to deal with The Beast". The unnatural pause put on The Beast to deal with Bertrand makes no sense.
There's too much dialogue between Cole and Bertrand, than John/The Beast and Cole.
I know you commented a year ago but I thought I’d still respond. I agree they should of put more emphasis on the beast. In fact the transition back to the beast arc after this mission was a little awkward but bertand was a great villain. Maybe not as good as Kessler but nobody was really gonna top that. Maybe if they made a trilogy where the beast shows up in infamous 3? Just speculating but they could of kept all of infamous 2 story just exclude the beast and in infamous 3 the beast is the one and only villain. They even could of had a faction of conduits who got there powers from the beast and they were trying to stop Cole.
I personally liked Bertrand more than the beast but yes I agree that the beast needed to be focused on a lot more in mid game not just right after Bertrand’s death
InfamousDylanJ yeah he was an very interesting character. Too bad Augustine in second son is a copy of his character.
@@thunderstruck6022 Not really a copy, she more like his polar opposite. Bertrand wanted to destroy all conduits to justify his self-hatred for being denied the powers and heroic destiny as a messianic conduit he thought he deserved when he got those mutation powers. Augustine pretended to be an Anti-Conduit Conduit leader of an task force of Conduit hunters who wanted to lock up all conduits to 'protect' them from human persecution...even though she was truthfully just full of shit and didn't know the meaning of the word "Sancturary" with her Prison 42 style prison where they are locked up forever in cells and even experimented on.
Genosha and the X-Mansion Curdun Cay is definitely not. I'd rather have taken my chances with humanity than take her 'protection' if i was a conduit.
I liked bertrand and Kessler better as antagonists honestly. Augustine was just a Magneto Wannabe.
@@thunderstruck6022 I would have liked to have seen that idea be how things went for a third game with cole, imagine cole fighting an army of Conduits ala The Last Stand...only they'd probably be suped up to full power by The Beast so it'd be way more epic.
I about spit out my drink the first time I heard this and Cole was making fun of Bertrand's "demon of empire city" line, complete with his intentionally crappy New Marais accent. 😆😅🤣
So his plan is what we initially believed it to be, with extra steps
Pretty funny the voice of Bertrand also voiced the villain of uncharted 2.
Noooo
Man Graham MacTavish always has some of the strongest villains.
I really hate the cultish ones. Now obviously, Joseph is not representative of the whole of Christianity. Lots of Christians can attest to that, but I'm hardly religious and even I know he's a rare kind of asshole.
"Oh, I finally get it; you thought the Ray Sphere was gonna turn you into some sort of shiny superhuman, but instead it turned you into a fifty foot maggot." Indeed, he caused many to die just so that he could be stronger than the common people, but the only reason he changed his ways was because he was disgusted with what he looked like. Look, Cole was tricked into turning into a superhuman at the expense of hundreds, and if you're following the good path, he uses that power to help the people. Joseph actively caused the death of people he judged as rotten, which there's a good chance some of them were mostly innocent, and became rotten himself.
"Conduits aren't monsters. No, see, powers don't kill people. Oh no; it's the person behind the powers that kill people." Not that the good version of Cole experienced the following firsthand, but a Conduit's personality does affect what direction your powers go as they evolve. Taking the easy route at the expense of many will make them more chaotic. Perhaps if Joseph didn't use his perceived generosity as an excuse to kill and instead try to find a way to somehow help others using this power, take personal accountability for his actions, or maybe just forego that power if it really does turn you into a mindless beast, there's a good chance he'd be a bit sympathetic, but that was not the game's intentions. Not that I disapprove of him being unsympathetic, but it's quite impressive that despite his charity and belief in his cause, even the game acknowledged him as wrong. Infamous really knew how to treat their villains, and that's a sign of a great story for me.
Guys like Bertrand and Alden were disfigured in some ways. Like their conduits were a manifestation of the corruption that they both harbor on the inside. Guess it's true what they say, as above so below. Whats on the inside eventually comes out.
Tbh infa,mous 2 is an amazing game but the only problem is the beast
He was so overhyped after the 1st part and basically the entire storyline
And in the end we get an easy battle that didn't even last long
Even Bertrand's creature were so much harder(max difficulty)
@@IDeVOeSYT While that's fair enough, I wonder if that is because The Beast was losing power by the time he reached New Marais. In the evil playthrough, he ended up dying of exhaustion and had to give Cole his power.
@@WillieManga well, he definitely got weakened during the whole story. But in the begging basic people just burned to nonexistence when they where close enough to the beast. In the comix scenes he was spawning volcanoes, hard to believe he got weakened that much.
One of my favorite cutscenes in all of gaming.
the demon of empire citeh?!
"No Cole, I think we're both demons. Our pride has turned us to monsters"
Oh I finally get it
You thought the ray sphere was going to turn you into some sort of shiny superhuman
But instead it turned you into a fifty foot M A G G O T.
@@starcade7664 infamous 2 was brilliant youve made me want to play it lol
@earthraisednamek The only reason that is is goal is because he is pissed at being made into something from clash of the titans. If the ray sphere had made him like a super powered human like cole. His goal would probably have been to destroy humanity and replace it with conduits.
Bro,,, the voice acting
2:17 Cole's sling bag has Sly Cooper's logo on it XD!!!
This game was so good.
Guys what he describes here may have been the reason for the DUP in inFamous
Probably a contributing factor. The main reason for the DUP is the beast
I know you posted this a year ago, but you sir made me laugh!
this cole looks better
The saddest part is that Bertrand didn't have to be a villain.
He could have been a force for good, A great one at that, He could have used the militia to protect new marais from the corrupted, And helped other conduits gain power, so they could also aid in fighting the corrupted.
He could have been a mentor and helper towards Cole, helping him track down the blast cores and fight the ice solider bitches.
But none of that happened, Because he couldn't, no, wouldn't see past his superiority complex and twisted devotion to the lord, Christ never said you should genocide people for having superpowers, especially if they are heroic like Cole.
@Myrid-oo4xm Cole never asked for his powers, and he became a great hero with them. Even Bertrand admits that God has forgiven Cole for what he is (even if Bertrand has not)
@@Myrid-oo4xm and how is that Cole's fault? The conduits existed long before Cole did anything
@@Myrid-oo4xmpowers aren't, by infamous 1 kessler gained his powers naturally anyways
worst part is every enemy in infamous 2 not named the beast was made by bertrand 😂 the corrupted and iceman were made by him and so were the militia
0:55
Lol Cole sounds like he has Texas or Southern accent
I think that was his way of sarcastically agreeing he's the "demon of empire city".
He was mocking Bertrand.
funny that cole actually did what bertrand wanted to do in the good ending
While also proving Bertrand's complete hypocritical beliefs that all Conduits all monsters like himself dead wrong, even if Bertrand wasn't alive to see it.
0:53 for the record, I thought he sounded like Obito from Naruto
Ayo WTF
I know this comment is nine months old but... Science is based on a bit of faith too...not the same kind of faith...but nothing in science is "definitively" fact, things can only be reinforced, but the concept behind them can never be proven, its the whole reason science works, its faith the rules you discover are true, with facts to provide evidence for that truth, but someone else can come along and potentially disprove them.
The Graphic is really Awsome
50 foot maggot
He turns into that monster thing stupidly fast. He's not much to look at, too bad he couldn't have just had a more less ugly power.
That is a good point but the way i see it is that science is based on facts and hypothesis while religion is based on faith alone, thats kinda the only reason i say they dont go together.
LEADER of milita army
"no, see powers don't kill people. Oh no,...... i kill people".
Pretty hypocritical that he's trying to turn people against conduits despite he himself is a conduit
Religion and science dont go together.
Best scene
inFamous 2: Bertrand reveals his true plans (HD)
Drain the Swamp people!!!!
PlasticProductions99 No dude. The DUP Story was explained near the end of Second Son. It has nothing to do with Bertrand.
Is Bertrand the actor from avatar?
Pause it at :35.... does that symbol on his pack look familiar....? :P
Yo it's ted cruz
Remove the s from powers and that is true in real life
I honestly agree with Bertrand.
Bertrand is a hypocrite. He wants to destroy his own species because he's jealous he didn't get cool powers.
@@rattlesnakejake956 How is he a hypocrite? He says that conduits are monsters, and can you not agree? What conduits have we met before?
Sasha was a manipulative psychopath pumping poison into the populace. The conduits under her command are bloodthirsty drug dealers, murderers and rapists.
Alden was a bitter, self centered old man tearing anyone and everything apart to achieve his goals. The conduits under his command are vengeful and spiteful social pariahs and homeless men.
Kessler was an older version of Cole responsible for the death of who knows how many innocents by allowing the early creation, and use, of the ray sphere- all in order to destroy The Beast, an incredibly powerful *conduit.*
Then there's Betrand, a conduit who's power is to turn into, and create- biological and mindless homicidal monsters that look like necromorphs.
And Nix? A borderline insane pyromaniac who tries to keep said monsters as pets.
The plague? Caused by the ray sphere, which is used for creating conduits.
And Cole, the protagonist? It's not like we've never seen him murder countless innocents before. Both games go into detail about the possibility of him turning into a completely evil and belligerent homicidal maniac who plows through crowds with shock grenades.
The world would be better if conduits just never existed.
@@cynabrum That is an extremely pessimistic and flawed viewpoint to have. Not all Conduits are monsters; they're just people like everyone else. Cole MacGrath and Delsin Rowe can go out of their way to protect people at the cost of bodily harm or even death, and Abigail Walker while a vigilante still goes out of her way to protect innocents by killing only criminals.
And Bertrand is a hypocrite because for all his "Conduits are demons" talk, he seems to wipe out every one of them except for himself. He and his Militia also repeatedly persecute their "fellow" humans in New Marais, as shown by the cutscenes with Nix's family, Lucy Kuo and the creation of the Corrupted. He doesn't care about the betterment of mankind; he's just a raving narcissist.
@@rattlesnakejake956 Longer term goals over short term. If you want to end the human race, causing nuclear warfare is a lot more efficient alternative than comitting suicide.
Bertrand is looking towards the future. Make everyone absolutely despise conduits, and soon they will be exterminated whenever spotted. Won't exactly erase their existence, but will make sure that they are instantly villanized and killed before they can actually villanize. A preemptive measure- 90% chance to be completely evil and 10% to not be, better to just never take the risk in the first place. Would have been even better to have just never built a damn Ray Sphere.
And let's be real, the good guy with superpowers is a myth. Excessive power given to anyone or anything is always going to end up terribly. Bertrand, Sasha, Alden, Cole. What is more realistic? Cole at the beginning of Infamous, zapping crooks and saving lives- or using just enough of his power to get what he wants, when he wants? And those little evils building up until he ends up becoming ruthless and sadistic?
Doesn't really matter though. In the end of the second game, either all of the conduits die, or conduits wage a genocidal war on humanity and end up proving my point. Win Win.
(Didn't really mention Second Sons because I've never played it. Want to, though.)
Well. You're wrong
press 4 over and over lol
Wait, I mean 0:21 Heh heh
that is funny to me
I really want another infamous game
@whatmesage Sly Cooper :]
That's pretty narrow-minded thinking on your part.