What's great about it is that it wasn't out of character for either of them, Nix was just motivated by revenge and Kuo made the choice that would guarantee survivors. They both stayed true to their own character and morality but it caused them to swap sides, it was so good.
@@LoriasGS i also like to throw in kuo only recently becoming a conduit, so finding out she'd have to die because of something recent scared the hell out of her. So good
If anything, Zeke was the only one that "couldn't stand him" (even though I wouldn't go that far as to say he couldn't stand him), Cole still liked him, he didn't want to kill Zeke.
The saddest thing about this moment (because it's not a fight, it's just a moment) is that Zeke knows his place. He knows just how powerful Cole is, and thus has no delusions that he can win against this electric devil. But he still wants to at least try to prevent his 'bro' from ending the world as he knows it.
Honestly, with time travel involved, there is no real canon. Second Son is canon to Infamous 2's good ending, but that doesnt stop Sucker Punch from making a game from another timeline focusing around the evil ending. Since the start infamous has been a story of an alternate version, so no reason why they couldnt. Sucks they are burned out on the series for the time being. Hope their new ip does good for them. Also, after going back for the second son plat, while it isnt as good as infamous 2, the characters and story are still pretty good.
It should’ve been. Having Second Son follow the good ending made no sense. Cole used the Ray Sphere and killed off both himself and every person with the conduit gene. How there were still conduits alive was paradoxical.
***** Conduits are only alive because the gene that makes them have powers was just pushed farther back into our DNA by the RFI killing current conduits. The gene just became less recessive.
I still hate this ending, and this game. The first game was my favorite. Second Son's Evil Ending was better than inFamous 1, while inFamous 2's Good Ending sucked compared to inFamous 1. inFamous 2's Evil Ending, though, was loads better than the first game's, but nothing compared to Second Son's. Second Son's was f-cking dark.
Having to kill Zeke was just painful. He stood up against a demon in his best friends skin knowing full well he would die but chose to stand as the point of no return. What a damn good story.
I like that how Cole see himself as a hero even in the evil ending . You can tell it from his shirt color and you can see he's helping the conduits in the cutscene . Ironic really .
Well, he IS a hero, even in the evil ending. Like some other comments pointed out, we only know that the RFI works because we've seen the good ending. Cole hasn't. He doesn't know if it'll work or not, and if it doesn't, everyone would die, both conduits and normal humans. So he chose the one which he believed to be the better choice : saving the conduits and sacrifice the normal humans, which is guaranteed to work.
@@saintgeekSGYeah exactly, the RFI was a pure leap of faith whereas John/Beast Cole's plan 100% guaranteed that at least some of Humanity could be saved by activating the powers of those who possessed the Conduit Gene
The fact cole wasn’t mad at Zeke even when he shot at him broke my heart. I remember playing this mission and when zeke stood in front of me I was looking at my tv screen hands trembling and said “please don’t. Don’t make me do this.”
This is why Cole was the best protagonist this scene is perfect tragedy portrayed with a mere three sentences. These are both men who have remained close growing together. Zeke knows this decision for Cole can be simplified to being between living and dying. I love that they sarcastically quote back "half as long, twice as bright." from the first game both fully recognizing the folly of their earlier words as they desperately cling to every last minute of life they can. Zeke's last words "I gotta try" express his understanding that Cole's decision is for his survival and that he has to do the same: everything in his power to survive no matter how futile. Zeke doesn't begrudge or regret their relationship or likely even hate Cole for doing what hes doing in order to survive but he doesn't want to die either. This doesn't go unrecognized by Cole coming full circle with him calmly accepting and forgiving his friend for turning his gun on him responding with an uncharacteristically sympathetic and sincere "I know." as he awaits the first shot testing if Zeke's resolve is genuine. Cole could have chosen to merely incapacitate Zeke to keep directly killing his best friend off his conscience but he chooses to end his life here as a final mercy to a friend in recognition of his resolve. This is a classic tale of two brothers who would like nothing more than to save one another and walk off into the future together but life is cruel so they're left with no other choices than to decide who dies. Can you say you'd be able to lay your life down knowingly for your best friend? I honestly don't know if I could but I can absolutely say I wouldn't hold it against them if they couldn't. TL;DR: See first sentence.
What I love about this ending is that Cole actually sees himself as a hero . If you look at 9:04 you can see that his shirt color is white and not orange also you can clearly see he is helping other people . He actually believes he is doing the right thing.
At this point he doesn’t see any other way and especially not after what he’s done to get there. His shirt and style changing to a savior is perfect because no one who believes they are doing the right thing ever sees themselves as the villain…
Thats why I enjoy the games evil ending. It doesn't come off as something straight forward evil. Either way, people are going to die and you need to make a choice to end humanity as we know it and have a world full of only "superheros" or remove all "superheros" and continue life as we know it.
The Evil Karma ending is so lame. The Beast/John is extremely powerful, and more knowledgeable than Cole. Its pathetically obvious they made John give his powers to Cole just for the sake of Cole staying the man character. John: Cole I can't do this anymore, I'm tired Cole: But John, after you destroyed New Empire City, traveled all this way to find me, and killed millions in the process, you're just NOW saying you can't do this anymore? John: I said I'm tired
+Cody_Diamond Confirmed by sucker punch team: John was a pussy. Damn u can confirm that in infamous1 aswell. he was tired of killing people and shit, infamous1 and comics shows that John is a pacifist. FIST!
David Sklodowski totally. Everything about the “evil” ending was spot-on, emotional and immersive. Then John just pulls that shit out of nowhere after being so determined the whole time. I guess it was just the game setting Cole up to be the most relevant character going forward, but seriously, I wish they could have come up with a better explanation
@@colejames423 no it doesn't come up out of no where though out the evil ending John knows what his doing is wrong and is not happy about it but will do it to save lives ot just at that moment his I forgot the word chase up to him and he can no longer do it. The samething happens to Cole when he kills Zeke he has a one more chance to do the right thing and not have Zeke death be in forgot the word but before the samething happens to him like John he destroys it before it eats away at him.
@@OneYuDBZSlayers - It's been years since I've played that game, but from my recollection, John absolutely believed he was 100% doing the right thing. I think you totally missed the point on that aspect of the storyline. At the end, him and Cole and that ice chick made that choice knowing the consequences. Even if they'd chosen to go the opposite way, people still would have had to die. That wasn't the point...John orchestrating this plan for so long and so determinedly only to get to the most critical moment to say, 'fuck it, I wanna take a nap,' isn't great storytelling. They could have done better.
@@colejames423 Also no John didn't say that. John give his powers to Cole because John as a human being couldn't take all the killing anymore. That little voice that everyone has chase up to him. Just like Cole. Pay more attention.
did you know that the evil ending was originally going to be canon so that in infamous 3 you could play as cole. But 80% of the players went with the good ending and so they decided to make infamous second son
I actually cried when I had to kill zeke and in the good ending i cried when i had to kill off cole. It is like as men in black 3 said where there is death there will always be death.
mineraftguy123 Well he tries to shoot you mid sentence and also crushes it with the amp after you made your choice, He acts like he is has more power of the choices then you.
I dont like how the game is so biased in portraying this as the evil ending. There was no way of knowing the RFI was gonna work so Cole just made the decision to use the method proven to work and save as many as possible albeit letting the rest die. It's a moral dilemma that is far more complicated than good and evil
Eh, you have to consider the motivations of the people on both sides. Cole - Depends on the player's choice. Zeke - Considers the scale of the damages when making his decision. John - Declares humanity dead and as seen he doesn't even follow through with his plan, leaving it up to Cole in the end. Nix - Joins the opposite side largely due to John killing her babies. Lucy - Makes her decision based on solely self-preservation, which Cole finds surprising from her. Thinking that there is only one option that will lead to a result is not realistic. Because as seen there was another method. I imagine that John had to test his method out as well. Ironically, science would conclude that it would work due to how it was affecting conduits. Who rely on the radiation that is involved in the sickness. Not to mention, the world would be extremely dangerous for those who are not conduits or are vulnerable to radiation. Not to mention, the social and emotional issues likely to arise.
Kessler: YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE! YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DESTROY THE BEAST NOT JOIN HIM! PROTECT THE WORLD, NOT LEAVE IT IN ASHES! Cole: I hate you! Kessler: Forgive me Trish, I loved you.
What if they created a new infamous game with an evil delsin being the main antagonist and Cole is revived by a conduit with healing abilities because Cole is the only conduit powerful enough to stop delsin
Zeke wasn't a Conduit, yet he stood by Cole throughout all his decisions, good or bad. Friendship is important, but come on. Millions of people. And he personally made a final goodbye, even choking up at the end. Nix and Kuo both also made the right choice in the end. Zeke didn't even want Cole to know he had the plague, thinking it would only bother and distract him
Honestly this is still the rational ending. We have no idea of the RFI will cure the Plague, it's speculation. The Beast's method is FOR. SURE. I mean if I was a human I wouldn't go without a fight, as little as it would matter, but I'd understand.
It was almost gonna go that route actually. Sucker Punch almost made infamous 3 where the bad ending was the canon one, but they noticed how many people got thr good ending to where they made that the canon ending.
Amechi Smallwood john only became the beast literally with the help of cole defeating all those conduits to get to the ray sphere. we all know cole i.e kessler in the original timeline fled. i dont understand how or why john would be the original beast in kesslers timeline
I actually want a sequel to the evil ending of this game. Imagine watching Cole’s rampage as The Beast as a game. Players could learn to develop his Beast powers and watch him mo down humanity’s armies and bring a new change to humankind.
Second Son was originally supposed to feature the evil ending. They changed it. However, since we know timelines and stuff exist in this universe it is possible that they could make a game featuring this ending.
i actually love this ending because it makes you choose between a way that has a small percent to work but save millions, or a way that will work put can only save thousands
The choice screen is a bit blunt. “Betray humanity” as Cole said, it’s not that they wanted people to die, but they had a guaranteed way of curing the plague, whereas he’d been set up to kill all conduits including himself, and risk the fate of humanity on the RFI, which could kill even dormant conduits . If anything, the “good” choice here seems just as cold. The idea is minimising casualties, but with no guarentee of success, while also knowing that its activation would wipe out a sizeable number of people. The “evil” choice would do the same, with larger casualties in the short term, but was shown to work.
Becoming a demigod and hanging with my evil ice princess partner as I usher in a new age for humanity. Magneto WISHES he could get this kind of ending for his life story.
I still prefer this ending. It is a more realist ending. Even if you want to save as many people as possible, this ending is one you already know works. Plus you don't have to die for it
If you actually think about it, the bad part is actually good and the good part is actually bad. The bad part is you trying to save as many as you can by turning them into conduits, the good part is you killing the beast but also all the other people who are conduits. I've never actually realized that until now. Or I'm just making assumptions idk
@RubyHonorWay At the point they were talking, they had no idea whether or not the RFI would really cure the plague, it was an unproven theory with the only fact being that it would kill off every Conduit (thousands of people). Sure, in the end it did cure the plague and saved everyone, but if the RFI ended up not curing the plague, every human and conduit on earth would be eradicated, either by the plague or the RFI. John's plan doesn't solve the millions who would die due to the plague, which is unfortunate, but he could at least get those Conduits active so that some of humanity can survive, and people can recover. And it's a proven, tested method. As far as I'm concerned, that Evil Ending is the good ending. At least you can say for certain through your own eyes that your saving some lives. Not all, but some.
Thats why I really like the story telling in this game. Its not truly good or evil and/or cut and dry situation. It's more on a point of view rather than stereotypical villain or hero status. Both parties think they are doing the right thing and its not over done that one has become obviously villainous and the other heroic. Hope that makes sense.
This is still the best ending to any game that I have played yet. The feels when I first saw it! It was so nice to see something different. The endings where the hero wins, sacrifices himself for the good of others, and we all live happily ever after, has become so cleche I wonder how people have not gotten bored of it yet.
I love that in this mission with the power cut off you just fly through the city with John and are basically an unstoppable force. Also love the detail that John says I know if I give you the ability to do this you’ll get it done. Like he knows how strong cole is and how determined which is just crazy when you realize he’s going to destroy whats left of humanity now.
Man i remember playing this the same day i bought my ps3 with my own money it took a couple weeks but i finally got enough money to buy a ps3 at the time ps4 was already out like what maybe two years after its release i want to buy a ps4 but i was thinking to myself ( i could be missing out on some amazing games on the ps3 so) i bought the ps3 and it so happens it came with one game of my choice so i look around game stop rip and this game immediately caught my eye so i pick up and look at it after idk maybe 3 minutes i picked infamous2 not having played the first one but idc i pick it up went home and played it and man let me tell u i played this for two days straight and after completing both endings i just sat there amazed at the character the powers and the story and i was amazed of how much i was inside the world of infamous and how much i was invested in but man killing zeke was one if not one of the hardest things i had to do and this was after completing the good ending when the litte (press R1) came up i couldn't i literally put my controller down and i walked out of my room because i just couldn't but after many hours of thinking about it. ik i had to do it so i pick up my controller unpaused it and i hit R1 he would take a hit then i would he would get back up and hit me again i would hit back but once the cutsence happened and ik i killed zeke i cried. This is why for me infamous2 will always be my first game of all time and my favorite one of all time. Half as long... Twice as bright Zeke and cole😢
It all makes sense Kessler, went back in time in the first game to tell himself to be good so he wouldn't become the beast. That's why Kessler, didn't know about John, being the beast, cause John, gave his powers to Cole. So after Cole, became the beast that's when Kessler, decided to go back into time to rewrite history. :) This game is amazing!
Vloopy No, that's not what happened. Kessler IS Cole, he says so in the first game. Watch a video on the end of 1, Cole got his powers naturally in Kessler's time frame and he married Trish and all. Everything was fine, then randomly the Beast came and destroyed everything and Cole ran but he eventually found them. He went back in time, because someone needed to stop the Beast from killing everything hence why he was cold hearted. The Beast killed his family and he killed Trish when he went back in time.
I wish infamous followed that ending. I think this is one of the best endings in playstation history in general. So freaking loved it. Nate Fox what have you done!
After the friendship that was presented to us in the first 2 games plus Zeke's quote "I don't call you "brother" 'cause I like the way it sounds" you get emotionally attached to them, seeing him die by the hands of his best friend is just heartbreaking. The last sentence they said together was: "Half as long, Twice as bright" makes that even worse. Thanks, SuckerPunch
This ending still upsets me. Not only because cole is right with his logic that its better to trust a method that does save people over hoping that one that will kill people will turn out to save more people eventually but because also John was never really "the beast" as Kessler knew him.
i think Cole was meant to become the beast he was activating conduits even though it would get some people killed but if he didn't NO ONE would survive but what if he went too far and then that's when they could have introduced delsin
Honestly looking back on it now the devs should have stuck to their guns and made the evil ending with cole it would have been great to play as a beast empowered cole like they intended it would have met a lot of controversy with it being canon that cole murdered his best friend but the game is called infamous for a reason. Plus unlike the other games infamous 2 gives a good reason why cole becomes "evil"
Never seen a brotherhood so strong they still had respect for each other cuz of how much they went through together but In the end they had two different beliefs
Ok this makes no sense. I know there is two endings but in second son in Cole's legacy zeke is alive and cole isn't so the only way coles legacy would make sense is if you chose the heroic ending in Infamous 2.
I'm pretty sure infamous 3 would of had you play as the main character in infamous second son and you would be fighting against cole but since more people chose the good ending the developers scraped their idea for that and then created second son
It's not my fault the "dark side" is impractical and stupid. Evil should let you take the easy way out at the cost of someone else's pain. My dark side would look like a super-powered mob boss, not some explosion-happy edgy prick. Most of the "evil" choices in InFamous are just evil for the sake of it. If you've got two options on how to do something, one being safe for everyone around and the other killing a bunch of innocents in the process, but both are on the same level of difficulty to perform, then what's the point of the evil choice that kills people?
It's InFAMOUS Not infamous The name of the video game series already references the Karma function in the game. So no we don't HAVE to choose evil karma.
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zeke was the most difficult boss in videogame history
So true ;(
+Maverick He really was.
Totally.
He really was. it really hit me when I had to kill him with my own controller.
+Maverick The first time I couldnt do it
"I don't call you brother because I like the way it sounds."
I did not sign up for this feels trip ;-;
heh im gonna miss my brother..... im sorry Zeke
fuck you guys 3,:
Bread aye watch who your talking to bud
ArkhamChild your damn right i am
The way they made the “evil” and “good” side kicks switch sides at the end was so powerful
yeah it was a pretty cool twist
What's great about it is that it wasn't out of character for either of them, Nix was just motivated by revenge and Kuo made the choice that would guarantee survivors. They both stayed true to their own character and morality but it caused them to swap sides, it was so good.
@@LoriasGS i also like to throw in kuo only recently becoming a conduit, so finding out she'd have to die because of something recent scared the hell out of her. So good
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself a villain
I wonder what will the simps choose 😂
I cried when Cole and Zeke have their showdown, just because they still respected each other, but couldn't stand together anymore.
Me too! It was so sad!
Ikr...
You can just see how sad cole is by looking at his eyes during this
It says in the scriptures ...”Can two walk together unless they be in agreement?”
If anything, Zeke was the only one that "couldn't stand him" (even though I wouldn't go that far as to say he couldn't stand him), Cole still liked him, he didn't want to kill Zeke.
Killing Zeke was the hardest thing I've ever had to do
you've lived an easy life
Watching that scene was sad
He means the hardest thing video game wise and it was for me to
naw
i spammed RT like a mother
I want this game remastered so freaking bad
ikr
Abraham Nila fr. Or another add on or something
Infamous: Cole MacGrath Collection
Same here maybe sucker punch is doing that and keeping it a secret
I dont think so remastering is not a long process
*"I have become the beast"*
Still hits all these years later
Gives you shivers. After all the destruction, it seems even the good actions you’ve done could all be for nothing.
The saddest thing about this moment (because it's not a fight, it's just a moment) is that Zeke knows his place. He knows just how powerful Cole is, and thus has no delusions that he can win against this electric devil. But he still wants to at least try to prevent his 'bro' from ending the world as he knows it.
True
"Half as long"
"Twice as bright"
"I gotta try"
"I know"
*Gunshot*
Fun fact. In the early stages of the Second Son development, they wanted to make the evil ending cannon.
Would be dope to have a game where Cole and delsin fight
George Gebereyes maybe ask for a new PlayStation All-Stars then, because that would make second game’s cannon ending pointless
this was the canon finale
Honestly, with time travel involved, there is no real canon. Second Son is canon to Infamous 2's good ending, but that doesnt stop Sucker Punch from making a game from another timeline focusing around the evil ending. Since the start infamous has been a story of an alternate version, so no reason why they couldnt. Sucks they are burned out on the series for the time being. Hope their new ip does good for them.
Also, after going back for the second son plat, while it isnt as good as infamous 2, the characters and story are still pretty good.
It should’ve been. Having Second Son follow the good ending made no sense. Cole used the Ray Sphere and killed off both himself and every person with the conduit gene. How there were still conduits alive was paradoxical.
"I have become the Beast"
Anyone else get chill from that?
no
+Josh Abbley Not if you play the game
Fucken buzz killer
Henshin Rider gives just as much chills as his other one liner in Playstation Battle Royal. "the Beast has arrived!"
instead of rewinding back time they should have let you free roam with the beasts power
Me playing evil path in inFAMOUS: YES DIE CIVILIANS!! HAHA
Also Me: Zeke no :(
Can relate so much it hurts--
@@joshuavarela6569 Ik
I am not sad anymore
Man, this story was just so much better than Second Son's.
*****
Which was why I was always against Second Son. Lmao
***** Conduits are only alive because the gene that makes them have powers was just pushed farther back into our DNA by the RFI killing current conduits. The gene just became less recessive.
I still hate this ending, and this game. The first game was my favorite.
Second Son's Evil Ending was better than inFamous 1, while inFamous 2's Good Ending sucked compared to inFamous 1. inFamous 2's Evil Ending, though, was loads better than the first game's, but nothing compared to Second Son's.
Second Son's was f-cking dark.
not really.You kill almost a tenth of the population of earth or so and you need to kill nix and zeke.
Animeality The first one, no matter WHAT choices you make, the ending is the same.
Welp, see you guys in another 8 years when this gets recommended again
Eh, it's only been about a year, so its fine
Well see you when this comment doesn't get copied and pasted
I just done this game, can't imagine if i play this game as a child without knowing what they are talking about, bcs my country don't speak english
I think this game have the best story conpared to the other games i ever played
Infamous doesnt get the recognition it deserves
Having to kill Zeke was just painful. He stood up against a demon in his best friends skin knowing full well he would die but chose to stand as the point of no return.
What a damn good story.
and its not evil to kill him
"I gotta try..."
"I know."
All these years later that interaction is still incredible.
I like that how Cole see himself as a hero even in the evil ending . You can tell it from his shirt color and you can see he's helping the conduits in the cutscene . Ironic really .
Well, he IS a hero, even in the evil ending. Like some other comments pointed out, we only know that the RFI works because we've seen the good ending. Cole hasn't.
He doesn't know if it'll work or not, and if it doesn't, everyone would die, both conduits and normal humans. So he chose the one which he believed to be the better choice : saving the conduits and sacrifice the normal humans, which is guaranteed to work.
@@saintgeekSGYeah exactly, the RFI was a pure leap of faith whereas John/Beast Cole's plan 100% guaranteed that at least some of Humanity could be saved by activating the powers of those who possessed the Conduit Gene
So Cole dies in the Good ending and becomes Magneto in the Evil ending.............
Not really Magneto per se. Kessler is more like.
But Kessler just wanted Cole to save humanity...
@@RX-NoName and that's what he did by evolving the human race
@@wildtiger397 no Kessler wanted Cole to stop the beast not become it
@@quintondorsey7362 well kessler changed the past so anything could happen
The fact cole wasn’t mad at Zeke even when he shot at him broke my heart. I remember playing this mission and when zeke stood in front of me I was looking at my tv screen hands trembling and said “please don’t. Don’t make me do this.”
"I have become the Beast."
Why does that line always give me the chills?
Same here. that line is so badass
Because you become the one thing you wanted to kill
@@blu9913 you were the chosen one!!!
You became the one thing you sought to destroy….
Same chills as with warcraft 3's
"Now, we... are ONE!"
Imaging Kessler's face after seeing this
😡
^
🙉🙈🙊
@Coder boi
Cole still have more abilities
Coder boi and let’s not forget that probably NO conduits would have had their powers activated
"I had to see my wife and best friend die again for you to do this?"
This is why Cole was the best protagonist this scene is perfect tragedy portrayed with a mere three sentences. These are both men who have remained close growing together. Zeke knows this decision for Cole can be simplified to being between living and dying. I love that they sarcastically quote back "half as long, twice as bright." from the first game both fully recognizing the folly of their earlier words as they desperately cling to every last minute of life they can. Zeke's last words "I gotta try" express his understanding that Cole's decision is for his survival and that he has to do the same: everything in his power to survive no matter how futile. Zeke doesn't begrudge or regret their relationship or likely even hate Cole for doing what hes doing in order to survive but he doesn't want to die either. This doesn't go unrecognized by Cole coming full circle with him calmly accepting and forgiving his friend for turning his gun on him responding with an uncharacteristically sympathetic and sincere "I know." as he awaits the first shot testing if Zeke's resolve is genuine. Cole could have chosen to merely incapacitate Zeke to keep directly killing his best friend off his conscience but he chooses to end his life here as a final mercy to a friend in recognition of his resolve. This is a classic tale of two brothers who would like nothing more than to save one another and walk off into the future together but life is cruel so they're left with no other choices than to decide who dies. Can you say you'd be able to lay your life down knowingly for your best friend? I honestly don't know if I could but I can absolutely say I wouldn't hold it against them if they couldn't.
TL;DR: See first sentence.
I ain’t readin all dat
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What I love about this ending is that Cole actually sees himself as a hero . If you look at 9:04 you can see that his shirt color is white and not orange also you can clearly see he is helping other people . He actually believes he is doing the right thing.
At this point he doesn’t see any other way and especially not after what he’s done to get there. His shirt and style changing to a savior is perfect because no one who believes they are doing the right thing ever sees themselves as the villain…
Thats why I enjoy the games evil ending. It doesn't come off as something straight forward evil. Either way, people are going to die and you need to make a choice to end humanity as we know it and have a world full of only "superheros" or remove all "superheros" and continue life as we know it.
The Evil Karma ending is so lame. The Beast/John is extremely powerful, and more knowledgeable than Cole. Its pathetically obvious they made John give his powers to Cole just for the sake of Cole staying the man character.
John: Cole I can't do this anymore, I'm tired
Cole: But John, after you destroyed New Empire City, traveled all this way to find me, and killed millions in the process, you're just NOW saying you can't do this anymore?
John: I said I'm tired
Yeah that twist was dumb as hell.
Yeah, it was, but actually Cole had more experience in all that power stuff.
Mobile gaming and other things How?
+Mobile gaming 284 hahahaha I get it!
+Cody_Diamond Confirmed by sucker punch team: John was a pussy.
Damn u can confirm that in infamous1 aswell. he was tired of killing people and shit, infamous1 and comics shows that John is a pacifist. FIST!
Did anybody else find the evil ending comical? When the beast was just like: "I don't want to do this anymore"
David Sklodowski totally. Everything about the “evil” ending was spot-on, emotional and immersive. Then John just pulls that shit out of nowhere after being so determined the whole time. I guess it was just the game setting Cole up to be the most relevant character going forward, but seriously, I wish they could have come up with a better explanation
@@colejames423 no it doesn't come up out of no where though out the evil ending John knows what his doing is wrong and is not happy about it but will do it to save lives ot just at that moment his I forgot the word chase up to him and he can no longer do it. The samething happens to Cole when he kills Zeke he has a one more chance to do the right thing and not have Zeke death be in forgot the word but before the samething happens to him like John he destroys it before it eats away at him.
@@OneYuDBZSlayers - It's been years since I've played that game, but from my recollection, John absolutely believed he was 100% doing the right thing. I think you totally missed the point on that aspect of the storyline. At the end, him and Cole and that ice chick made that choice knowing the consequences. Even if they'd chosen to go the opposite way, people still would have had to die. That wasn't the point...John orchestrating this plan for so long and so determinedly only to get to the most critical moment to say, 'fuck it, I wanna take a nap,' isn't great storytelling. They could have done better.
@@colejames423 no but are are. Here is a link to a video that might help you. th-cam.com/video/n7968AGJi44/w-d-xo.html
@@colejames423 Also no John didn't say that. John give his powers to Cole because John as a human being couldn't take all the killing anymore. That little voice that everyone has chase up to him. Just like Cole. Pay more attention.
did you know that the evil ending was originally going to be canon so that in infamous 3 you could play as cole. But 80% of the players went with the good ending and so they decided to make infamous second son
That sucks because you could have turned into the beast
I personally love the evil ending. Cole will always live and as the most powerful conduit in my mind and.
I thought that if the evil ending was canon, then Delsin would be the protagonist against cole.
sun gaurdian yes I did
just imagine "inFAMOUS - The Beast" to play bas John/Beast and rewrite history
I actually cried when I had to kill zeke and in the good ending i cried when i had to kill off cole. It is like as men in black 3 said where there is death there will always be death.
yeah man...sure it is
Me 2
but hey,at least you get to see some booty at 7:44
I don't think I'll ever finish the game as evil cole, I will NEVER EVER have it in me to kill Zeke!
Same man. no way im going to kill him
I felt like zeke acted like a bit of a prick in the evil ending
Psycho1324 Why? he was just trying to do what cole was supposed to.
mineraftguy123 Well he tries to shoot you mid sentence and also crushes it with the amp after you made your choice, He acts like he is has more power of the choices then you.
When I did it I let Zeke shoot me as much as possible.
jesus christ I'm glad i chose the good ending lol
me too! lol
yeah but Cole dies nooooooooooo still i chosed good one
I did both endings
😔
gameralfa095 both endings we're sad when could died I couldn't stop crying but when zeke died I couldn't also couldn't stop crying
I know right
I dont like how the game is so biased in portraying this as the evil ending. There was no way of knowing the RFI was gonna work so Cole just made the decision to use the method proven to work and save as many as possible albeit letting the rest die. It's a moral dilemma that is far more complicated than good and evil
I never saw it as a evil or good choice. I saw it as optimism vs realism
Eh, you have to consider the motivations of the people on both sides.
Cole - Depends on the player's choice.
Zeke - Considers the scale of the damages when making his decision.
John - Declares humanity dead and as seen he doesn't even follow through with his plan, leaving it up to Cole in the end.
Nix - Joins the opposite side largely due to John killing her babies.
Lucy - Makes her decision based on solely self-preservation, which Cole finds surprising from her.
Thinking that there is only one option that will lead to a result is not realistic. Because as seen there was another method. I imagine that John had to test his method out as well. Ironically, science would conclude that it would work due to how it was affecting conduits.
Who rely on the radiation that is involved in the sickness. Not to mention, the world would be extremely dangerous for those who are not conduits or are vulnerable to radiation. Not to mention, the social and emotional issues likely to arise.
"You were supposed to destroy him! Not become one!"
Kessler: YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE! YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DESTROY THE BEAST NOT JOIN HIM! PROTECT THE WORLD, NOT LEAVE IT IN ASHES!
Cole: I hate you!
Kessler: Forgive me Trish, I loved you.
RIP cole macgrathikin
I would like this but it's at 69 likes
@@alexanderquick9016 understandable, the balance must be upheld.
6:36 this part man...it still breaks me nearly 11 years later, it's tough to kill him because you know he can't do much against you
The only game that actually made me cry I swear...this ending was too much for me
Killing Zeke still friggin hurts.
Xandersama I know it got me emotional
same
I haven't played this game in maybe 15 years, but that showdown with Zeke still hurts...
Half as long...twice as bright. RIP Zeke
They really should re-introduce this series or remaster the entire series because this game is really special
What if they created a new infamous game with an evil delsin being the main antagonist and Cole is revived by a conduit with healing abilities because Cole is the only conduit powerful enough to stop delsin
well from what ive seen cole is the most powerful conduit delsin is strong but not too strong kuo or nix could probably defeat delsin
J031 ho-ly shattner Infamous: Second Son. Rebirth of the Demon.
ya know cuz he's called the "Demon of Empire City"
Jesus Vasquez
you are now my friend
J031 X3
Jesus Vasquez
well he's also the saint of new marais
Zeke wasn't a Conduit, yet he stood by Cole throughout all his decisions, good or bad. Friendship is important, but come on. Millions of people. And he personally made a final goodbye, even choking up at the end. Nix and Kuo both also made the right choice in the end. Zeke didn't even want Cole to know he had the plague, thinking it would only bother and distract him
Honestly this is still the rational ending. We have no idea of the RFI will cure the Plague, it's speculation. The Beast's method is FOR. SURE. I mean if I was a human I wouldn't go without a fight, as little as it would matter, but I'd understand.
Cole didnt want to become evil. He had to become evil.
you either die a Hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the Villain.
It would be cool if they make a game where it follows the evil ending from infamous 2 but delsin could be the protagonist, and cole is the antagonist
It was almost gonna go that route actually. Sucker Punch almost made infamous 3 where the bad ending was the canon one, but they noticed how many people got thr good ending to where they made that the canon ending.
@@s3t3n98 indeed they did. Fucking bastards I've wanted the evil ending to be canon
Why would Cole be the villain though?
alex alvarez honestly, that could of worked for DLC for second son title “the beast returns” or something, kind of like a “what could of been”
Why the fuck would I wanna play as Delsin when I could play as the fucking beast
Fuck Undertale this is the only game to kick me in the feels.
All infamous games are the best, they really touch my feelings. Agree?
They both hit me in the feels(weird how in both games,no matter ending you get,theres feels)
oh shut up
Me too
True. I love Undertale (I prefer Infamous though) but This one emotionally destroyed me.
guys if john is the beast in coles timeline then who the hell was the original beast in kesslers timeline?
Zeke :)
Hopoy no no.
+keveydaking
I imagine it would still be john. What do you think?
Cole was the beast in kesslers timeline
Amechi Smallwood john only became the beast literally with the help of cole defeating all those conduits to get to the ray sphere. we all know cole i.e kessler in the original timeline fled. i dont understand how or why john would be the original beast in kesslers timeline
It was hard killing zeke he was such a good friend
That "I know" had so much meaning it made me cry, the whole moment did
I hope they remaster and re-release both games together. One of my all time favorite game series.
4:48 I was watching this and my mom walked in and thought it was porn LMAO
JoshsJoshua 😂😂😂
I actually want a sequel to the evil ending of this game. Imagine watching Cole’s rampage as The Beast as a game. Players could learn to develop his Beast powers and watch him mo down humanity’s armies and bring a new change to humankind.
Second Son was originally supposed to feature the evil ending. They changed it. However, since we know timelines and stuff exist in this universe it is possible that they could make a game featuring this ending.
The little boy in me thought this was the most badass superhero style story ever lmao. Loved every second of it.
i actually love this ending because it makes you choose between a way that has a small percent to work but save millions, or a way that will work put can only save thousands
The choice screen is a bit blunt. “Betray humanity” as Cole said, it’s not that they wanted people to die, but they had a guaranteed way of curing the plague, whereas he’d been set up to kill all conduits including himself, and risk the fate of humanity on the RFI, which could kill even dormant conduits . If anything, the “good” choice here seems just as cold. The idea is minimising casualties, but with no guarentee of success, while also knowing that its activation would wipe out a sizeable number of people. The “evil” choice would do the same, with larger casualties in the short term, but was shown to work.
Becoming a demigod and hanging with my evil ice princess partner as I usher in a new age for humanity. Magneto WISHES he could get this kind of ending for his life story.
I still prefer this ending. It is a more realist ending. Even if you want to save as many people as possible, this ending is one you already know works. Plus you don't have to die for it
sounds edgy people preferred the good ending tho
Thats exactly why i love this ending, and should of been the continuation of the franchise.
as time passes on im even more convinced this was the right choice then wen i was 14 the fact that white shirt cole is in the ending proves it
So glad there's a new infamous game. If the franchise ended like this I don't know what to do.
There was actually gonna be an inFAMOUS 3 following this ending. It wasn't really the finale of the franchise.
i legitimately cried when cole killed zeek
Zeke’s “fight” really hammers home the tone of this choice.
You are left with this feeling of “Was all this really worth it?”
If you actually think about it, the bad part is actually good and the good part is actually bad. The bad part is you trying to save as many as you can by turning them into conduits, the good part is you killing the beast but also all the other people who are conduits. I've never actually realized that until now. Or I'm just making assumptions idk
Dank Ainsley Considering that there are far more normal humans than conduits that isn’t an accurate statement.
@RubyHonorWay At the point they were talking, they had no idea whether or not the RFI would really cure the plague, it was an unproven theory with the only fact being that it would kill off every Conduit (thousands of people). Sure, in the end it did cure the plague and saved everyone, but if the RFI ended up not curing the plague, every human and conduit on earth would be eradicated, either by the plague or the RFI. John's plan doesn't solve the millions who would die due to the plague, which is unfortunate, but he could at least get those Conduits active so that some of humanity can survive, and people can recover. And it's a proven, tested method.
As far as I'm concerned, that Evil Ending is the good ending. At least you can say for certain through your own eyes that your saving some lives. Not all, but some.
i think that since they didnt know if the RFI would cure the plague they're both good endings in a way
Thats why I really like the story telling in this game. Its not truly good or evil and/or cut and dry situation. It's more on a point of view rather than stereotypical villain or hero status. Both parties think they are doing the right thing and its not over done that one has become obviously villainous and the other heroic. Hope that makes sense.
1 in a 1,000 odds. So out of 7 billion, only 7 million people with powers and no plague remain? What a crazy tradeoff.
This is still the best ending to any game that I have played yet. The feels when I first saw it! It was so nice to see something different. The endings where the hero wins, sacrifices himself for the good of others, and we all live happily ever after, has become so cleche I wonder how people have not gotten bored of it yet.
God the backround music is so nostalgic
6:44 if you want to cry ;_;
I've never laughed and shouted "YES KILL HIM KILL HIM" so much iml
"I cant believe he didnt cry during the titanic"
"Do men even have feelings?"
men:
logical morality > emotional morality
"Half as long, twice as bright", goddamn it's been 8 years and that still hurts
Writers: Evil Ending is canon…you are the beast.
Fans: NO! COLE IS GOOD BOI!
It leads up to Evil Cole Becomes Future Cole.
Way better than the Hero ending. At least Cole is still alive in this ending and he got new powars
1:35 Zeke is like "Fuck this shit! Not again!"
Man I almost cried when he kept shooting seek down
I love that in this mission with the power cut off you just fly through the city with John and are basically an unstoppable force. Also love the detail that John says I know if I give you the ability to do this you’ll get it done. Like he knows how strong cole is and how determined which is just crazy when you realize he’s going to destroy whats left of humanity now.
The music that plays when you are killing zeeke always gives me the goosebumps
06:35-07:15
Among the 3 saddest moments I have ever experienced in a game.
Man i remember playing this the same day i bought my ps3 with my own money it took a couple weeks but i finally got enough money to buy a ps3 at the time ps4 was already out like what maybe two years after its release i want to buy a ps4 but i was thinking to myself ( i could be missing out on some amazing games on the ps3 so) i bought the ps3 and it so happens it came with one game of my choice so i look around game stop rip and this game immediately caught my eye so i pick up and look at it after idk maybe 3 minutes i picked infamous2 not having played the first one but idc i pick it up went home and played it and man let me tell u i played this for two days straight and after completing both endings i just sat there amazed at the character the powers and the story and i was amazed of how much i was inside the world of infamous and how much i was invested in but man killing zeke was one if not one of the hardest things i had to do and this was after completing the good ending when the litte (press R1) came up i couldn't i literally put my controller down and i walked out of my room because i just couldn't but after many hours of thinking about it. ik i had to do it so i pick up my controller unpaused it and i hit R1 he would take a hit then i would he would get back up and hit me again i would hit back but once the cutsence happened and ik i killed zeke i cried. This is why for me infamous2 will always be my first game of all time and my favorite one of all time.
Half as long...
Twice as bright
Zeke and cole😢
Have you ever heard of punctuation?
It all makes sense Kessler, went back in time in the first game to tell himself to be good so he wouldn't become the beast. That's why Kessler, didn't know about John, being the beast, cause John, gave his powers to Cole. So after Cole, became the beast that's when Kessler, decided to go back into time to rewrite history. :) This game is amazing!
Vloopy No, that's not what happened. Kessler IS Cole, he says so in the first game. Watch a video on the end of 1, Cole got his powers naturally in Kessler's time frame and he married Trish and all. Everything was fine, then randomly the Beast came and destroyed everything and Cole ran but he eventually found them. He went back in time, because someone needed to stop the Beast from killing everything hence why he was cold hearted. The Beast killed his family and he killed Trish when he went back in time.
Pancake Lord That's exactly what I mean. xD
Vloopy Oh sorry haha. I read it wrong then.
so basically Kessler is the beast but went back in time to tell cole not to do that
I know I'm trying not to confuse people who don't know that
Rest In Peace Zeke
I wish infamous followed that ending. I think this is one of the best endings in playstation history in general. So freaking loved it. Nate Fox what have you done!
are you on drugs people prefer the good ending
@@TheSoCalledZoner1 get out normie Idgaf about what people prefer.
After the friendship that was presented to us in the first 2 games plus Zeke's quote "I don't call you "brother" 'cause I like the way it sounds" you get emotionally attached to them, seeing him die by the hands of his best friend is just heartbreaking.
The last sentence they said together was: "Half as long, Twice as bright" makes that even worse.
Thanks, SuckerPunch
This just poped in my recomenden and I still crying
I like how in this game both choices are equally justified
This ending still upsets me. Not only because cole is right with his logic that its better to trust a method that does save people over hoping that one that will kill people will turn out to save more people eventually but because also John was never really "the beast" as Kessler knew him.
"Half As Long, Twice As Bright"
When i was 6 years old this game made me my childhood awesome :)
Tnx.. Infamous :')
I think I beat this game a dozen times, but I only did the evil playthrough once. That was all I could stomach. Brilliant game.
6:47 you know zeke could have just used a water gun on him.
It takes large amounts of water for cole to be in real danger. If not then rain or even drinking liquids would have killed him already
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I was scrolling and I seen this , 🤣 this comment deserves more likes
@@finnheisenheim8274 big water gun, not a water pistol. Also I think that rain actually is one of his major weaknesses
@@finnheisenheim8274 Have you ever seen Cole out in the rain? Nope. My guess is it can kill him, so he actively avoids going out when it rains.
@@eddydiaz2609 so rain is his biggest weakness wow that’s a little sad
i think Cole was meant to become the beast he was activating conduits even though it would get some people killed but if he didn't NO ONE would survive but what if he went too far and then that's when they could have introduced delsin
this entire series could use a remaster/remake so good but the graphics while astounding for the time looking back this would be amazing if updated
Honestly looking back on it now the devs should have stuck to their guns and made the evil ending with cole it would have been great to play as a beast empowered cole like they intended it would have met a lot of controversy with it being canon that cole murdered his best friend but the game is called infamous for a reason. Plus unlike the other games infamous 2 gives a good reason why cole becomes "evil"
fans dont believe in being edgelords
sounds edgy
Zeke's death broke my heart
I started to cry when he kept shooting Zeke
Chills man to this day I love that twist that the big evil from game one was you.
Never seen a brotherhood so strong they still had respect for each other cuz of how much they went through together but In the end they had two different beliefs
I can’t believe this is a story game. It’s so well driven like a Hollywood movie
Ok this makes no sense. I know there is two endings but in second son in Cole's legacy zeke is alive and cole isn't so the only way coles legacy would make sense is if you chose the heroic ending in Infamous 2.
There were 2 endings and only one was canonical. it does make sense, you just explained it to yourself.
This is because the game wants and expects you to chose the good ending over the bad
its because 80% of people chose the good ending which made them start a new person, if it was fairly even, there would have been infamous 3
Well, yeah, but usually game makers want you to be good, so that's probably why.
I'm pretty sure infamous 3 would of had you play as the main character in infamous second son and you would be fighting against cole but since more people chose the good ending the developers scraped their idea for that and then created second son
Killing zeke was probably the hardest thing I had to do with this game
Zeke: "I gotta try."
Cole: "I know."
"Half as long, twice as bright."
;_;
I think Cole gets revived at the good ending when the lightning made a question mark
inFAMOUS Second Son being the continuation of the good ending, I can confirm that he is indeed dead.
@@_terrorbilly no he’s alive
@@forzit8623he ain't even zeke said it in infamous second son
Ugh the game is not called fking 'Famous' guys. Indulge on your dark side and lets get a evil karma canon for once.
It's not my fault the "dark side" is impractical and stupid. Evil should let you take the easy way out at the cost of someone else's pain. My dark side would look like a super-powered mob boss, not some explosion-happy edgy prick. Most of the "evil" choices in InFamous are just evil for the sake of it. If you've got two options on how to do something, one being safe for everyone around and the other killing a bunch of innocents in the process, but both are on the same level of difficulty to perform, then what's the point of the evil choice that kills people?
It's InFAMOUS
Not infamous
The name of the video game series already references the Karma function in the game. So no we don't HAVE to choose evil karma.
This game was so good. I would kill to play it again.
Anyone in 2021?
Btw I love this game I play on PS3 and I'm 12 years old but I play like , little big planet and infamous and Batman Arkham asylum,origins and city 😊
i played the hole game already i layed two tears when i killed zeke i broke that infamous 2 game i broke it
Lol
+kai patterson lmfaooooo
This in my opinion is the best ending and fits with the story arc and title of the game
Seeing zekes glasses in the rubble tug at the heart, reminds me of my child hood in a way
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