Bonus Episode: Peter Brock & Larry Perkins testing Holden Commodore VN at Eastern Creek Sydney 1991
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 มี.ค. 2024
- We've found some old VHS tapes, saved them onto digital and uploading what we can!
This video is from an early test day in 1991 using Brock's new #05 VN Commodore, built by Perkins Engineering.
This is some raw footage from the day, including the car on track, PB and LP chatting about the car and testing, some interviews and PB having some fun at the end!
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I just couldn’t believe the sound.What a beast.Peter’s driving and Larry’s engineering and know how combining to make this race car incredible.
Have we lost something with the latest American big money cars? It’s just not the same. Pity 🤨🤷🏽♂️. Thanks for the blast from the past. 👏
Car sounds ace, Cheers!
That was fantastic ,Larry and Peter were a great partnership on many occasions and a formidable force of talent.👍
Yes they were! Cheers!
Two of the greatest men in motorsport and in Australian history 🍻🇦🇺💨
Not wrong there, Cheers!
@@perkinsengineering cheers to you 😉
Absolutely 🤘
What a beautiful sound, Larry built great cars .
Cheers!!
Absolutely extraordinary footage. A 46 year old Peter in candid conversation with LP. Wow. Thanks so much for publishing this Jack. Peter and my dad were my heroes growing up and this is just superb. Dad worked for GMH for 40 years and met PB and your dad. The thing that grabs me here is the raw sound of the Holden V8 so early in the year. I always thought that LP lifted the revs as the year went on but that just sounds absolutely magnificent.
Cheers!
Hi. Great fan of Brock and perkins. My pop worked for gmh in Melbourne until 1973. 37 years in total. Where did your dad work.
@Mark-vh8qr hi mate. Dad worked at Dandenong from 1958 to 1993 and then did 5 years at Fisherman's Bend working with Chevrolet getting the LS V8 into the Commodore.
@matthewdouglas4791 Hi Matthew. Thank you for replying. Do you know how I can locate any information or pictures of my grandfather. He worked at gmh for 37 years until 1973. Fisherman's bend
Brock always knew when the camera was on! Unlike Larry he wasn’t really interested in the mechanical details!
Peter Brock, Larry Perkins, Jim Richards, even Ford drivers of Dick Johnson and Alan Moffat. All legends of motorsport. Apologies to other great names not mentioned, those were great days.
Not wrong!!
Listen to that baby sing. That’s awesome Jack, thanks for sharing it with us 👍🏻🇦🇺
Glad you enjoyed it, Cheers!
Great footage. The noise of the Holden V8 is so unique.
Iron Lion!!
High revving 308. Wonderful. The VN had bigger valves and fuel injection to make up for the unleaded crap fuel. What a rocket.
@@jefftheaussie2225 before 7,500 rpm limit by the category?
Yes, they revved to 9100 rpm in the early stages of the 91 season, later reduced to 8500 rpm for reliability reasons.
In 1992 the V8s were limited to 7500 rpm, and by 1993, most teams switched to the new Chevy based v8 instead.
What a great era of racing. Racing in the 90's commodore was my favourite. The cars were beautiful, the drivers were all characters.
100%
Watch the racing from the 70s , better drivers and real cars compared to super toys.
In my opinion, 70',80' &'90 were great years in Australian motorsport, factory teams & plenty of privateers. Quite a few were successful L.P. and others .No so many regulations.
Watching Brocky win by 5 laps in the A9X is still my favourite memory at 58 yrs old (apart from certain obvious other activities lol)
@@barbossaa5527 100% I remember that race well I was a Bathurst that year.
Bloody awesome! Thanks JP! This will forever be one of those cars along with PE010 where the sound gives me goosebumps. What a soundtrack!
Cool sound hey, Cheers!
This footage is so good,Thankyou so much for converting to you tube for all to see,Keep the old footage coming, Thankyou Perkuns Engineering for making this happen
You're welcome! Cheers!
Thanks Jack,what a sound, rember your Dad and PB coming to Wellington NZ in late 1991, they put on a hell of a show, 2 ND against the factory BMW on a track not suited to her.The GTR broke and was one of the only cars to handle the bumps.Beutiful sounds and clips of the 308, would have had the slide manifold on by then ,short gearing ,insane sounds.
I can rember Brock in an interview stating 547 BHP in full race trim ,proud as punch.the best sounding V8 in history.
That's the last time Brock and Perkins would share a car together! Cheers!
Being of a younger generation, i never got to experience the sound of a 5 litre holden touring car motor. What an unreal sound!
Cool sound hey! Especially on a race track to it self! Cheers!!
Nothing sweeter!! Enjoy.
True Aussie muscle, wonderful days of motor sport, with two of our greatest motor racing sportsmen.
Thanks Jack.
You're welcome, Cheers!
Brilliant, Jack. I'm giving a thumbs up to all the comments and thank you.
Much appreciated! Cheers!
Jack Thank you- sitting next to the great man doing those laps would have been an experience of a lifetime - I had the pleasure of meeting him once - it’s difficult to describe that feeling of meeting an idol you have watched for so many years, when you finally meet them you think they also know you - he shared some precious moments that I was very grateful for - I first watched him at Hume Weir in the A30. - Kind Regards
Glad you enjoyed it, Cheers!
Goodonya Jack!!👍👍
I’d like to congratulate Brock on his 1991 championship and all the wonderful success the VN and Disadvantage Racing had that season.
1992 was with Disadvantage, 1991 was with PE
Fantastic vid Jack, can’t beat old school V8’s with LP & PB. Keep them coming please 🤗🤗
Cheers!
You've gotta love the sound of that Holden V8
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Iron lion!
Thank you a million times over JP. Just when I thought I've read every article/ story and video of your Dad and PB, this pops up. Keep the volt open Jack. Cheers.
Glad you enjoyed it, Cheers!
Larry Perkins is right up there with Sir Jack Brabham. Great engineer, driver and Team Manager. something that is overlooked way to often.
Many thanks for the kind word, cheers!
new VN style cylinder heads were game changer.
And Perkins slide intake .
This was still Twin Throttle Bodies at this stage, first slides came online during 1991 season.
@@perkinsengineering true then the new heads could breath , beath new life into old dated 308 engine who supplied crank 5.7 stroker think i remember it being Harrop or some local company
🏁Thanks for the memories 💔 Larry/Jack Perkins Engineering Brilliant 👏 05 💯
Cheers!!
That car, Allan Moffat's Cenovis EB Falcon and Todd Kelly's 2008 JD Commodore are some of the best sounding V8 race cars ever... They sound Insane.
Yes the cross over pipes on TK's PE Commodore sounded ace! Cheers!
Bloody excellent, Jack. Like hopping into a V8 Time machine🙂
Haha not wrong there, Cheers!
Thanks for sharing Jack, Great having Larry and Brock back together. Thanks for sharing
You're welcome! Cheers!
Sounds absolutely beautiful. Thanks for taking the time to upload these videos for us as always
Our pleasure! Cheers!
I remember doing 2 weeks of work experience at Perkins Engineering at their Moorabbin factory back in the early 90s.
Great memories!
Good times!!!!
@perkinsengineering The 2 best weeks of my life. Mr. Perkins and the guys were really good to work with.
The Iron Lion never sounded so good!. Seeing to legends of our sport together tuning an icon Holden is second to none (this from being a blue blood BTW). Sad now the neither manufacturer builds great cars in this great country of ours. I'm sure Brock and Larry would probably feel the same.
Yeah it's special history now isn't it... Cheers!
Just brilliant. And that V8 sounds sooo good.
Sounds cool hey, Cheers!
This is amazing.
Thanks for posting.
This is when the internet is used for good
Glad you enjoyed it! Cheers!!
Awesome! That sound ❤
Glad you like it! Cheers!
Thank you Jack for uploading this. Was very enjoyable to watch the interaction between Brock and your father as the engineer (and also a driver) and seeing your dad at work. Your dad is one of a kind and you are a splitting image of him, I wish you all the best for the enduro's this year, I sincerely hope you get the crown at Bathurst, you deserve this and will be following (from my armchair) with interest.
Many thanks for the note, cheers!!
This is better than watching a race 😊
Haha it's cool footage that's for sure!
Cant beat the sound of a Holden V8
Not wrong! Cheers!
Awesome this brought back loads of memories, was at the Mountain that year too, legendary drivers both your Dad and Brocky ❤🍻🍻🇦🇺🇳🇿🤝🇦🇺🇦🇺👍🏁🏁
So cool! Cheers!
@perkinsengineering absolutely 💯 percent 👊 😊 🇦🇺 🍻
Thanks for sharing that Larry. I’m a big fan of the VN and still have a 89 VN SS . Just Fking awesome to see 👍
Cheers!
Thanks for sharing Jack! Ever since watching the Group A commodores live in the 1980's and early 90's I've been telling people how good these things sounded live especially at Bathurst! This footage brings back great memories and just reinforces what I thought at the time and still do.
Very cool cars and they sound ace, Cheers!
That was brilliant, more please!
Cheers!
Thanks Larry And Jack for converting and uploading this awesome footage.
Glad you enjoyed it, Cheers!
Back when racing cars sounded like racing cars. Thanks for the upload!
No problem! Cheers!!!
The throttle blips on downchange make such a glorious sound. Not by ECU, heel -and-toe old school style. Love it. 👍
Yes indeed! Cheers!!
Fricken awesome! Thank you!
Cheers!
Two absolute legends of Australian motorsport
Cheers!
Just found this and had to watch! Larry Perkins. You know its true legit footage when you see the 5 stud on wheel change
Cheers!!!
Those old V8’s just had a sound to them
Iron lion sounded ace, Cheers!
Wow this brings back memories! Being a little kid and sitting with Dad and watching the V8s whenever they came on tele here in NZ. We were raised as Holden fans and LP and PB were far and away family favourites.
Thanks Jack for this little insight into how things were done back in the day.!
You're welcome, Cheers!
Great video and definitely never get tired of listening to that V8 in flight … all be it even in testing . What a beast with 2 legendary masters at the helm 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Glad you enjoyed it, Cheers!
Real gear changes
A shell that actually went down the production line
Something similar to what to could buy, not a shortened or lengthened and flattened out to make it fit on a chassis. This is what Supercars should still be, not the irrelevant crap running around today.
I still have the hat, t shirt and jacket from that year all signed by Peter
Get with the times mate, the Commodore and Falcon no longer exist. What do you want Supercars to race Corolla's and I30's. I think the Mustang and Camaro is the best Supercars can get, if you have any better ideas let me know
@@ronsmith6041 get with the times ? Last time I looked we were watching a video from 33 years ago. Just because the times have changed doesn’t mean the racing is better , it’s certainly not. All the cars are the same , there’s no strengths and weaknesses of different models or tyres or variety, it’s irrelevant.
Mustang & Camaro are truly irrelevant, too expensive & a bespoke race car. Supercars is irrelevant. They should race open wheelers as the top category instead!
A great era indeed! But nothing is forever unfortunately! Cheers!
That's gold Jack. Two legends of our sport talking shop. Thanks for sharing that with us!
Our pleasure! Cheers!!
A good car made great by two of the best, not taking away from either as they both had their different inputs
Cheers!
Excellent blast from the past. Thanks Jack 👍
You're welcome!! Cheers!
Old Larry had those engines singing they just needed his castrol VL
"new enough under the bonnet"
Awesome.
This is when a Supercar actually sounded like a Supercar.
Todays racing cars and the racing itself has gone down the gurgler.
What will they do when the Camaro retires ??
It's no longer a home grown race with Mustang and Camaros running around.
It smacks of desperation really after the end of Falcon and Commodore.
RIP V8 Supercars.
Let's enjoy the video for what it is - great memories and history of our sport. Holden is no more unfortunately so let's celebrate what we had! Cheers!
@@perkinsengineering I agree Jack. Great memories for sure.
Can you upload more ?
Jack thanks so much mate this is buy far the best thing I've seen .Holden all the way .aussie v8 that sound .you're old man and PB talking about the car and set what tyres to run awesome. Bloody awesome.
Glad you enjoyed it, Cheers!!
amazing sound!
Not wrong, Cheers!
To say "amazing footage !!!!!" doesnt come near the truth. Put ya boot into it and the growl is like no other sound in this world. This frustrated old driver can feeeeeel the car sliding thru corners from this video. Thank you Jack.
You're welcome!! Cheers!!
Best sounding V8 this country ever produced and by FAR the most successful. And to add cream to the cake success it was AUSTRALIAN. Met Pete at a mobil service station in Frankston vic in 2003. He arrived in his VU Monaro that he shared with his son in the targa Tasmania race. A 1 hour appearance turned into over 2 hours as he signed EVERYTHING for EVERYONE including my brother in laws A9X and my VK 308 Calais still in the family. He was a pure gentleman to the kids especially. I told him I grew up watching him in the A9X and my first car purchase was because of him, an SS hatch V8. Peter and Larry what an incredible force they were absolute superstars. These days I don’t even bother getting up early for Bathurst like I did when these legends lined up with dick Moffat captain peter janson Bobby Morris ect. Rip Peter and keep up the legacy jack your a champion.
Cheers!!
Top notch piece of behind the scenes video-ed history - and Larry only swore once...........
Cheers!
This is an awesome find! The raw footage makes it fly on the wall stuff. Loved the exchanges of data with each other and swapping tech tips on set up. This has to be one of the best videos from this era! Thanks for posting this Jack.
Glad you enjoyed it! Cheers!
How good does that thing sound !!!
Sounds ace, Cheers!
@@perkinsengineeringwould love to know engine specs on this , Perkins built twin throttle ?
Unreal to see Eastern Creek when it was new 👌🏻
Yeah only a year old in this video!!!
What a blast from the past.
Cheers!
That’s the best thing I’ve seen since the 93 BW, get back on the road, keep ‘‘em coming JP, much appreciated
You're welcome, Cheers!
What a combination. Thanks for sharing Jack - thoroughly every minute of it. How many more hidden videos have you got of Larry and/or Peter? Love to see some more !!!
Not heaps unfortunately, but there's more out there I'm sure of it!! Cheers!
Thanks Jack!
That was a fantastic trip down memory lane I hadn’t thought about in a long time!
God bless you
My pleasure! Cheers!
Glorious sound
My word it is, Cheers!
There is no better sound than that of the mighty iron lion.
Not wrong there, Cheers!!
Great video from back in the day.
No stinking rev limits
Thanks
Cheers!
Larry perkins wins bathurst in 1993 in the same car from the start what a legend
Cheers!!
Two of the legends of the sport and what and machine and love the V8 sound . Outstanding footage loved it 👍
Glad you enjoyed it, Cheers!!
Wish he was still alive.
Gone too soon! RIP
Thanks for sharing Jack. Absolutely love the sound of that V8, music to my ears. Brings back alot of wonderful memories.
Cheers.
Glad you enjoyed it, Cheers!!
@6:50 Larry the consummate driver/engineer just a pleasure to watch a professional
Cheers!!
Outstanding, thank you
Cheers!
A step back in time that brought me great memories 💯 Appreciate you guys 🏁
Cheers!
Awesome upload thanks Jack. VN/VP were my favourite Holden Supercar
Cheers!
What a good looking race car ❤ amazing work larry
Cheers!!
Great history. A bit disappointing to learn in later years, it was written into LP’s contract that he wasn’t allowed to beat Brock.
That's all history now! Cheers!
I utterly loved this era and this was one of my favourite GMH products of all time. I actually lived near one of Brocks engine builders in the days before your dad took over and he had nothing but kind words for Larry. I learnt about carburettor tuning, basic engine building and all sorts of little tricks. He and my dad constantly argued due to his LJ 4 door being painted to look like the Holden dealer team . . . and my dad being a Ford fan. My pop raced for Leyland (P76) so I was certainly the odd one out for a while.
Cheers!!
Hi Jack this reminds me of I think it was the ABC that did that piece on Larry and the team "In the Pits" set at Bathurst, I recall you feature in it to as a young lad, and wow what a great time of Touring Car racing in this country. And this footage of LP and PB at work, and wasn't that VN Commodore a dead set weapon, I remember it well, boy oh boy was it loud, but great old footage, and a good idea indeed looking back at how it was, love it Jack, and what about Larry and Peter, talk about charisma plus, that just isn't there these days, not like that, top job Jack, if you have access to more of that old stuff bring it on, I'm sure everyone would like to see it 👍🇭🇲
Cheers!!
Love it...there absolutely getting under it..sounds awesome
Cheers!!!!
Gee whiz Jack, where did you find that footage? I remember working at the Holden sales and marketing team when they launched the VN Group A SS at the brand new Eastern Creek Circuit when it wasn't quite finished. It was when we sung happy birthday to a young Neil Crompton. This was prior to your video package but it reminded me of a distant period. Thanks for sharing
Just on a VHS tape in a box in the shed! Cheers!
2 absolute gods amongst men!
great old find Jack! thanks for sharing!
...its funny to see eastern back in the day with nothing built around it yet...its crazy how built up it is around the track now...
Yeah the circuit was only a year old in this video! Cheers!
11:41 goosebumps
Fast
That's it!
bloody to see the top two of all drivers of all time love them both ty so much for showing us all
Cheers!!
2 of the most incredible sounding V8's of all time. Do you know where these 2 cars now Jack? My 2 favourite drivers. Nothing beats the Holden V8 and your old man knew more about these engines than anyone. Miss the 'old' days. Back when race cars had 'soul'.
Yes, one is not far getting restored and the other is for sale for a hefty price tag!
Fantastic, thanks Jack
No worries! Cheers!
Epic rare footage Jack, thanks so much for sharing. The Holden V8 sounds so much better (to my ears) - raw, guttural and angry compared to the Chev.
Glad you enjoyed it! Cheers!
Wow amazing bro
Cheers!
Thanks for sharing this iconic footage of two greats of Australian Motorsport.
Our pleasure! Cheers!
Thanks Jack for sharing this amazing footage of 2 legends of touring car racing and my 2 heroes. Just WOW is all I have to say 😲😲😲😲😲😲
No problem 👍 Cheers!!
Thanks for sharing this raw footage , it’s brilliant to see these two legends behind the scenes.
Glad you enjoyed it, Cheers!!
Great footage!
Glad you enjoyed it, cheers!
The burnout picture was used in Modern Motor 1991 front cover. Looks like they didnt.want tomrisk breaking an axle...so they started the burnout in the sand..
Yes that would likely have come directly from LP!
Thanks for sharing Jack. That was excellent it was fantastic to watch.
My pleasure! Cheers!!
Amazing footage. Very special memories. Great sounds
Thanks for watching, Cheers!
That Video Footage was Superb. Just how a Great Racing Team works sh!# Out.
Glad you enjoyed it, Cheers!!
The interview with PB near the end regarding the rule changes to make the cars more comparable was interesting. This was the early stages of 'parity' which evolved into the cars all bring essentially identical, and boring.....
Well it's tricky to rock up in a VN Commodore against a turbo charged Sierra or a 4WD Nissan and think you will be competitive without some form of handicap system or parity as you say.
@@perkinsengineering oh absolutely! The poor old n/a VN didn't stand a chance against things like a Sierra that can pick up 200hp when you slide the heater controls or pull out the ashtray :) Other than going back to racing homologated production cars and multiple classes, I don't know what the answer is to keep it interesting. Today's race cars are amazing but us older guys just can't let go of the past :)
A lot of things changed from 86, Mike, DR30s.
That was really good to watch and listen to !
Cheers!!