CATCHING CHEATERS in World of Tanks!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- Today I'm exposing some filthy cheats in World of Tanks!
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Quickybaby: *tries to hide names*
Quickybaby: *opens the leaderboard and every single name shows*
Yeah, I was gonna say something but ya beat me to the punch.
Working as intended.
It was a beautiful moment)
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Yeah you can clearly see their names at 4:27
Quickibaby: Censors all of the names out for privacy reasons;
Also Quickybaby: 4:27
lol
Epic FAIL XD
QB moment here
also the uploaders name is there for the replay so not too difficult to go find the replay ..
He did it in purpose obviously
its well known about him to be like this
"the most harsh punishment wg can ever give out"
WG:SENDS TOMAHAWK MISSILE
More like a pre-nerf arty strike
one week ban .. wow ... just ridiculous
EU servers..."I can't believe players cheat like this". RU servers..."I can't believe they got caught".
That was pretty much my reaction as someone on the ASIA server too. Would also add "I can't believe WG actually banned them"
NA servers: *getting pushed out of a bush into enemy fire by a tortoise*
Seems like par for the course to me
@@keenie81 Yeah ASIA is pretty bad aint it?
@@mattkelly6226 ASIA
@@whatsomeonesaidwastaken9216 ???
Quickybaby, I fully understand on how you feel about cheating that occurs. Quite frankly, I think that the punishment should be more severe and that ALL Accounts that were involved in this should be PERMANENTLY BANNED from "World of Tanks." Being "banned for a week" is more of an inconvenience rather than teaching them a lesson.
I agree: permban, all of them: 6 players
Account banning? How about IP banning too...
@@ballistyxwot4577 Yes. However, if one knows what one is doing, you can change your I.P. Address.
The player probably has dozens of other hacked or bought accounts, it's not even an inconvenience to see them disabled for a week...
@@imlazyz8160 I agree. I don't currently play "World of Tanks" or "World of Warships" (I'm currently looking for a second job to save up for a Desktop PC), but I watch both "Quickbaby" and "The Mighty Jingles" for the videos. Hopefully in the future, I'll be able to see about solving this problem.
Despicable is all I can say of what they did. Admirable of you to take of your time and exposed them and raise awareness!
He didn`t take out of his time , is his job to make videos to make money
@@serlGlent Like that's a crime?????
He did not expose them which he should have done.
@@amzarnacht6710 The reason that "Quickbaby" didn't publicly expose them in the video was for Legal Reasons. He did however forward the players to Wargaming and let them handle it. Wargaming has the responsibility to dealing with cheating players.
@@southtexasprepper1837 Legal bullshittery.
When I played I used to report players all the time and I'd see them daily for *months* and even years doing the exact same shit every single time. I even sent in video proof of their behavior and nothing was ever done.
WG doesn't care - as long as they get their money they'll let assholes be assholes endlessly.
I was wondering the other day how red players were getting 6 to 9k damage. Was wondering why there was suddenly players doing silly amounts of damage while 14 other players couldn't get anywhere near that damage amount. In the back of my mind I thought something was fishy but never thought this was going on. Sickening. One week ban, that makes one very disappointed with WG.
A week? One week? The effect of their cheating on Marks alone lasts longer than the punishment. Unreal. Good catch Quicky, and this (or variations of this) is probably more widespread than any of us can imagine. The anemic punishment only encourages this behavior, frankly.
im guessing they are going with the 2 strike system, 1 week and warning. If it continues, and enough people report them again, the second time they get perma banned. Guess we gotta watch out for suspicious platoons from now on.
typical WG, ban for a measly week for big time matchmaker rigging. I've reported some players over and over again for some really egregious things. Wg always tells me they will dish out appropriate punishment but can't share with me what they would do because of privacy laws. But apparently, they aren't doing shit because those same players kept appearing in my games. WG are such hypocrites. All they care about is if a player spends money.
If the whole community doesn't come together to force their hands, they won't do jackshit.
I have seen guys who do this for 1000s of games and never get caught, they eventually got bored and had to turn themselves in, it’s sad.
I can't believe Wargaming gave him that answer cause they always tell me they can't discuss what was done to any player, but please know appropriate action will be taken. Guess if you are a CC then the same rules don't apply.
Crazy that they could destroy enjoyment in 30 games, they destryoed 360 players enjoyment that day with giving them pretty much 0% chance to win that game.
And they get a week? Gj wg on screwing up again
This has been happening for years. Many years ago when I played regularly I submitted many replays with this exact behaviour.
this behaviour going on for years does not make it less an "unsportsman behavoiur". if you find out it happening "once" for the involved people it is bad. seeing this in a continueed series of about 30 battles for the leopard and the stats on the other acounts show some "regular" behaviour ... and i can easily guess the leopard was not driven by his owner but the owner paid lots of money to maybe finally get the obj279e
And it happens alot in other games as well..."Boosting" has always been a thing and its hard to figure out than say wall hacks etc.
Your dedication to this game is great to see. Just played WoT again after a leave for more than a year. Mainly to play my few favorite tanks.
Thanks QB for being our voice, well done lad, well done.
What can I say, I'm part of this clan but I am extremely disappointed. I discovered that the players in the video were doing this yesterday and I didn't really know what to say. But I'm kinda glad Karma struck. Thanks for speaking up for the community QB!
Also, if anybody is curious as to why this happened: Somebody paid our clan leader for a boost through the campaign missions.
Regardless of why it happened, it's unacceptable and nobody should do it. At least I got a good reason to leave the clan, lol
Just tell them that are disgusting 🤢
tell your clan leader is a 🤡🤡🤡. And next time when he flames in the game, he should remember what he did before doing that
You left the clan and allowed it to continue. Did you call out the clan leader? Did you call out the douchebags in whatever clan chat you use? If not, you are just as guilty.
Can u provide proof?
@@PoPCaTOwO proof of what exactly?
This cheat has been around since the beginning, but running 4 accounts to get a mastery badge is a sign they need to get out more and have a life. Whenever you see a tank idle on the spawn, you have to ask who is running it. Sometimes the cheater ends up with all their tanks on the same team.
Wow, I had that exact same heavy tank platoon in my team yesterday in one of my battles. In Paris map they drove against building walls in the spawn area and stood there until destroyed and we lost the match. I can't remember any clearly suspicious actions from the enemies.
Report them
submit it to war gaming
@@shoelacethesecond1607 Report,Report,Report,Report
If they didn't manage to sync drop into the same battle on opposite sides I guess there would be no specific player to take advantage of the bots
@@FA_pro wg won't do anything.. chems and his friends were doing this for years and he was even doing vids from these matches and it took yrs for wg to bann him finally.. and now he is still palying but on another account and he is doing the same thing.. just watch his recent vid
I really used to love this game I started playing about a year after it was released. Over the years I belonged to several clans. This practice was pretty common and I left a couple different clans because of it. I seldom play anymore and I’m not surprised this is still going on. A weeks punishment is a joke. Their accounts should be wiped and make them go through the appeal process to get them back. Good catch QB.
I would say try war thunder
Ive played so long I played before it even released, worked for wargaming and etc, and I cant play it anymore as the tech tree has gone a way im not happy with and the cheaters have gotten like infinitely worse.
@@daveshilling6610 Yea... So instead of arty, you will get lolbombed by planes.
@@pilsplease7561 that's a main reason (the tech tree) why i stopped play that game continuously. if you not pay, you progress will be so deem slow that it is nightmare. Now i play just some times just for fun but cheaters ruin even that good game.
@@family_adventure23 I have so many premium tanks i have money out the wazoo so i can progress then again i have one of the oldest accounts ever to exist in the game so I get tons of freebies and badges every year lol
Have seen leos and stbs shooting over and over without any tanks spotted in their firing direction and end up with tons of damage.
I always wondered how they were doing it.
Thanks QB for showing us
“You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." ~ Obi Wan Kenobi,
I once reported something like that to WG, 3 players doing no damage at all and being AFK the whole game. Wg told me it was maybe because of a connection bug or something... They didn't get banned.
I can't really speak for those 3 but back in the day I had a shitty ISP. I could load into WOT battle and play no problem, but the second I pressed a button for VoIP (back then it was mumble) the modem would disconnect and my tank would continue to do whatever it was doing. One match when I reconnected my tank was on the other side of the map. The other team must have felt bad because they didn't even shoot me.
3 players afk is much different than literally hand feeding damage to a specific person. There genuinely could be a connection issue.
having an afk player in a battle is a bad thing esp when it is a top tier. never the less it may happen. there is a video on youtube where a tank single handly wipes out the entire enemy team being afk, so it is not a new video. rigging gets more obvious when it is a platoon. a platoon is the guarantee you join together a battle. if you ever tried joining a battle with a specific player you will find out it is not happening all time when you desire it. even when you manage to do it you may end up in same team. ask some stream snipers on this toppic :-)
@@TehShadowDeath how much spotting dmg did you get? :P
I have seen quite a few platoons that only purpose is to lose, I check thier stats like QB did and you can see from the impossibly low win rates that they are there just to ruin other peoples games.
I only wish this was the most troublesome thing I had to worry about in my life.
Quickie - Check Claus's comments on your video. He went even deeper into this incident. That clan (all four are from the same clan) counted in 30 times in a single session and it appears that 30 times the platoon ended up on one team and the Leo landed on the other team. And in all 30 games the platoon did exactly the same thing. Never fired a shot, had a WIN 8 of exactly zero and lost 95% of their games while the Leo did the opposite.
The bigger question is how did they manipulate the game so that they never landed on the same team and always landed in the same game? I've counted in many times on the NA server with its much smaller player base and it came out to one in five-ish times some, but not all, of my clan mates would land in the same game as me and about 50-50 on the same team. I've never seen counting in this accurate or anything close to it. WOT needs to take a very close look at this far beyond a simple one game counting in cheat by a clan. How often does this clan do this and how many battles have they screwed up?
I tried to look at the clan on WOT Labs but the WOT API is still not working so the stats aren't there. THe clan is there but the API shows no stats and no players other than the clan commander's name.
This shit is happening on Russian and Chinese servers for almost 8 years.
There is limit of t10 tanks in one battle. So if in the same queue it will be full party of t10 and 3x randoms on t10 tanks, there is 100% guaranteed that party will be against randoms.
So you just need to play in most non-prime time, on less populated server. To be in one discord channel and press "To Battle" button in same time by 1-2-3. That's all.
Why it is happens now on EU.
Because of situation on Ukraine Wargaming is moving their main business from Belarus-Russia to other countries. And they are given possibility to change game servers for almost all post-Soviet countries. So a lot of Ukrainian, Lithuanian, Latvians, Estonians, Belarusian (almost all of them are from the same community. WOT is very popular on post-soviet region. They know a lot of glitches and shitty things.) are moving to EU servers now. It is PLAGUE. You will not be able to do anything. Because this war with cheaters already lost on RU region. Wargaming is making game not for you or not for good players.
They are making game for "Podpivkovichi (It is the word characterizing such type of players like stupid biomass "I am playing just for fun, drinking beer, watching russian propaganda, I am happy to be drunk and stupid"). They are buying premium tanks, paying for such leveling to make their "Stat" more beautiful.
Best thing you can do - don't touch this shit. I mean whole this game, and everything wargaming make.
Sorry for my English.
now you can easy to understand because they are "training, credit earning team"; , you can hire them by money
@@lamborghinireventon3800 You are absolutely correct. I have no idea whether WG will take any action on my Ticket - probably not. But at least I gave them the heads up with links to QB and Claus' videos. Thank you for the reply.
If you go to SA servers at odds times near/after server maintenance, the player population is literally less than 1000.
@Wahoo Dza
Your english is awesome, I loved reading this. Thank you for calling out why this is happening. I knew this kind of stuff was common in Chinese games, but I didnt know it happens in the post soviet bloc countries as well. It almost makes me wish wargaming would maintain those servers just to keep those players separate, despite the Ukraine situation. Also, it was enjoyable to learn some Russian slang, their terminology is so imaginative.
This happens so frequently, I have learned to i.d the dummy tanks on my team almost immediately.
Could you do a community post if WG actually confirms if they will deal with these players
They won't. They don't give a shit. All wg does is to influence their income. Will banning players give them money ? Nope. So they won't be working on it
wg at most replies with "we've taken action, but due to privacy reasons, we cant tell you what we did"...
@@pcl89 They always told me that but 2 days ago they explicitly told me they confirmed the violation and took action against the player I reported. I was very suprised.
@@eniff2925 just out of curiosity, what did that player do to be worth reporting for?
@@eniff2925 and took action means???? "we saw your message, we will do nothing"
Cheers for this QB, the game is frustrating enough already without these cheating scumbags. Lets hope they got their accounts permanently banned.
@oscar Graeme cheats are pretty much irrelevant in this game. A good player will always outperform a cheater in the long run. Cheats are mainly an excuse for bad players why they are loosing
@@noobbody-gf8fh circular logic and arrogant conclusion. Btw, it's losing, not loosing.
@@randysmith9841 how is it curcular logic. The amount of games you will play that are effected by cheaters negatively are minor and also the advantages cheats give are small compared to just playing better. Therfore cheats are not a big factor in this game. That's why the only ones crying about cheaters all the time are bad players. I watched the video after commenting btw and I do see that rigging is a bigger problem than cheating but it's still minor and easy to tell from someone's account if they are doing it. So it's acctually still the same logic.
Not with WG's idea of "zero tolerance". These cheaters will get a slap on the wrist .... nothing more. WG doesn't care .... it's only about money and only money.
On top of that, The Obj. 140 was a goldspammer
+ Because of Leopard 1 people who are trying to do those "be top 1 in dmg or deal 20% of team damage" missions, they won't succeed..
Thank you Quickybaby for your service to the game!
Why has QB gone silent on this when Klaus has continued to expose the boosting companies ? Who is giving these boosting companies access to the old accounts ?
What an eye opener this was. As a "vanilla" player I have always accepted that some cheating occurs and noted school holidays tends to see a marked increase; but this is something else. I have played other FPS games that ban cheats (via IP & MAC addresses) immediately NO warning given, instant ban, and "In game moderators" can "kick" players mid-battle if dodgy play is noted, and they then get banned. As Claus Kellerman says in his video on this subject; "Wargaming can stop this if they really set their mind to it". This will be something I will watch for. Thanks for the clear "heads up".
You gotta name and shame these cheaters. For anyone that wants to know, Claus Kellerman names them all in a video he did today.
His Video was based on an upload they did themselves - MouzAkrobat showed that video already a couple of months ago.
4:27
claus that racist pos should be derped in real life
Been playing longer than most and have never encountered such blatant cheating, so that’s good news about the game in general. But my experience of reporting players for unsportsmanlike conduct is the worst. WoT spends more time questioning the reporting party than banning the offenders. After several tries I gave up entirely.
I have been on the other side sadly. I got reported for pushing someone out. I got a ban for it and contacted their Support. That position specifically no one ever stops (open field) and I thought the player would keep rushing the position just further as I was driving at the same speed a couple meters directly behind him. I argued a lot with Support, but my 1 week ban stayed.
I don't think it's bad if they do their own research and question enough. I got reported quite lot of times for cheating because I outplayed the other without gold spam but just knowlegde of the game. Glad I never got a ban for just playing the game.
There is so many players who use direction mods etc, i see these many times in one play sessions. Very unfair amd counts as cheating.
@@Chillr3nd The direction from where you're being hit isn't a mod, it's vanilla. I am not using a single mod.
its more likely you did encounter something like this, but you just didnt notice it
I been playing this game from 2011, been in lot of clans and this is usual tactic for grinding missions, create a couple of same tier platoons, count from 3 to 0 and press battle at same time, and if u are playing in morning when is lower number if players active u end in same battels
Quickybaby: wants to get these cheaters banned
Also quickybaby: hides the cheaters name tags 🙄😑
Goto 427 in vid
He tried so hard and got so far... 4:30 xD
who cares about the names ?? what he clearly wants is to show what has been going on for many many years. I've seen this so many times in clans.
But in the end... it doesn't even matter 😂
@@rocket2739 lol
Thanks to Claus finding another uploaded game by this group showing off their high dmg in another tanks, what QB didn't point out is that all 4 accounts are in the same clan. Different people behind each account or the same? Claus also used a stat site to find the highest dmg games uploaded in each tank on each server and review the details of each game to see that either there was often a disconnection immobilizing nearly all of the opposing players leaving an entire game full of tanks to crush by those lucky tanks not to suffer a disconnection on their other side. After you get past those disconnection games you can see low scoring platoons are present in many of the high dmg examples and see they never took shots or moved, etc as evidence of this kind of cheating that QB discovered. The biggest question then becomes the sheer consistency of being able to join the same game with the your rigged platoon on the other side in a single day. This is the biggest concern expressed by Claus K on NA. Is there special software modifications required to time the precision to allow for so many games to have the rigged platoon on the opposite side (not your own side) to explain this clan being able to do this over the course of a single day. Also why not punish the clan as a whole? Often times this level of cheating is organized and sanctioned by the clan. There is a lot of pressure to make your clan look the best they can to attract better players etc. Seems like when you see all 4 players are part of the same clan then it seems more reasonable to suggest that its not just a cheater player issue, its a cheating clan issue and punish the group as well as the players. This might incent clan organizers to warn their players never to cheat or risk the entire clan's progress be suspended/banned.
it's the same with Clan wars.. top rated players getting banned (many from same clan) if there is over 3 top ranked players caught cheating the whole clan should be punished in clan wars.... not just the ones caught.. as their cheating falsely boosted their clans rank and other clan members as well.
You don't have to have your alt account in the clan to use it like that. In fact that is more likely.
It's not due to precision but volume . When you have 30 players running multiple accounts at the same time , the accounts that get into the required match or matches are then played ,the ones that don't go afk for the game .you only need one player playing the booster tank while 30 other players can play multiple accounts at once as they only have to drive 10 feet and stop ,then communicate where they are to the booster
@@PhilDurham What are you talking about.. 30 players with 30 alt accounts.. It's not even close to that. It's about 4 to 10 players all looking to hit queue at the same time. If it works it works. It's never that organized. Mostly an after or before CW thing.
The three "tributes" all get in a platoon together so they will always be on the same team.
All you need to do then is synchronize the Leo's game to theirs, which is probably quite possible if you are running a virtual box or similar, since the system timer would be exactly the same. My "guess", having worked in IT, is set some auto-clicker program to go off at a specific time and the virtual box gets pulled in as well. As it's the same machine, it would give you a very high chance of registering within a ms or two of each other.
When I first saw this video I was thinking "the problem can't be that big, most players are just idiots".. Tonight I've had 4 matches (in a row) with platoons that did 0 dmg, less than 1km of distance and I can't help but thinking the problem is a lot larger than a single player with a few extra accounts..
I can say from own experience, contacting WG Support for cases of unfair conduct is pointless, well maybe not if you are a well known streamer, but in my cases it resulted in a automated standard response thats all.
You also probably aren't providing a detailed analysis of gameplay and account behavior over time contrasted to recent history for 4 to 6 accounts, with your replays and replays of team mates showing obvious gratuitous abuses. I'm not saying that being QB doesn't help very taken seriously, but let's be real here. He isn't showing up with a relay and just saying, "I think these guys are bots. Lol how badly they did." That's what most of us regular people do when we make similar reports.
@@nomar5spaulding 1. It's not my f'ing job to play private detective. 2. My cases where obvious malicious, ( pushing of a Cliff)
@@sternencolonel7328 Yeah pushing off a cliff is highly malicious, you're right, but honestly, if you're going to day to people, "Hey look at these rules breakers. Here is the rule they broke, punish them," it *is* your job to play private detective if you want to get a result of of it. Also, no need to be be an unprovoked dick. I'm wasn't attacking you. We all know full well that a normal report doesn't come with this level of analysis.
Problem is, imo, they got lots of false positives and its not easy to distinguish between 'crybabies' reporting everything and everyone, and true valid reports. They can have dozens, if not hundreds of reports every day and reviewing each of them is time consuming. Alot.
Imagine that player at beginning was reporting arty for cheating, but somewhat forgot to mention he dropped the tree(which was really stupid). You still have to go, download and review demo, see obvious reason and then close it. Thats at least 5 to 10 minutes of wasted time. More complex report like those guys can take hours, if not days to gather all data.
I dont blame WG for working slow, but they should be more open about it. Like periodical public reports. It does help if players see its hapenning, instead of wall of silence..
@@cyphi474 agree. Every few months when I played Eve Online CCP used to publish the names of all the banned accounts. Yeah sure, you never defeat the bots, but it's still nice to see the effort being made.
Dear QB; Thank you for making a video. I would like to see an interview between you and a spokesperson from WG. Because a week ban for something like this is unacceptable. I would also like to point out that you being able to spot this, based on data that is readily available for everyone, should also make WG able to write a program to investigate these instances pro-actively. Because apparently they do not this and thus cannot claim that they do everything within their power to stop cheating.
Just my thoughts :)
True, anyone can have a great game here and there but you dont get close to triple your WN8 in a series of battles
Stats like those should bring an immediate review
@@maumor2 Good point. A script by WG to recognize this pattern would not be that hard.
@@kpsmith67 sadly "WG" and "would not be that hard" dont belong in the same sentence
@@kpsmith67 i little bit remember from one video that discussed about bots mod. first people just had mod that would press battle and then these tanks just sat in the game until win or dead. wg placed a system that detects tanks that drive 0 km.
then people made mod that would drive and die most of the time. so wg put a system that detects tanks that don't shoot any shots at all.
so by that video there should be already such system in the game. imo wg just dont want to ban people cause then they would lose players that maybe would give them money. you can tell that by wg just giving ONE week of ban. like this is just a joke.
He is part of the Wargaming scam, wake up he is fraud who just wants your money, it's worrying that guys like you buy into this leach.
Years ago I used to be competitive in game and was a "blue" player. However in the last few years I encounter this stat padding garbage in game "A LOT" and I seem to be lucky enough to land on the AFK platoon team often.
There is always some platoon that will sit in bushes with their rear armor facing the enemy. I've submitted this to war gaming and all they ever say is "we will look into it but we cant share any detail of out findings".
If you check back in the next few days, weeks, month, the account(s) are still active and doing the same trash. WG doesn't seem to care this is happening in game.
Not only that, but these same platoons use these techniques to complete missions for other players.
For example they accept payments so that they can get you the 279e and stuff like that.
Again, crickets from WG.
I've played this game since its release, so I'm not writing this as someone who is butt hurt or crying about stats.
I don't play for stats and really I don't play WOT as much as I once did because of stuff like this.
Thanks QB for the video... Clause Kellerman has also exposed some of this going on but like I said, this has been happening for a while now and its driving away some of the player base.
Maybe with exposure coming from bigger CC's - Wg will actually take it serious; apparently the voice of the little players means nothing. 07
Thanks QB. This is my 11th year and im a poor enough player, but I really try hard to support my team. This has blown my mind. Now I am eyes wide open. Thanks to you mate! Well done!
This reminds me of the many reasons that made me stop playing.
Even WoWs I played more and more while quitting WoT, but eventually me liking tanks and warships didn't compensate for the lack of quality from WG to maintain the gameplay and player pool in a healthy competitive situation.
Ir would be great to know how these players managed to be matched in the same battle. Iknow it’s easier at really late night but not so easy when QB was playing.
Precisely, that’s pretty suspicious by it’s self. Given their stats, they are clearly hacking the game to ensure they constantly get in the same game on opposite teams.
Exactly. Just watched Claus Kellerman's video where he discussed this video, he gave props to QB and he brought up that exact question. As he said, there's something more going on here than even the cheating we can see. Just exactly how were they getting into the same battle, on opposite teams, SO OFTEN?
@@raygoble274 1 guy with 4 laptops? Probably from one of those websites which do missions or marks for money?
I think that there must be many more. Not only 1 platoon of people who let him farm. Maybe up to 30 players. He will most likely get one team
If you play in platoons of 3 with similar vehicle types like 2 heavy and 1 medium and you both hit the battle button at the same exact time its actually really possible that you get to play against each other almost every battle even when the server is crowded, its not gonna happen every game but it does happen quit often, i know this because me and my friends do this sometimes cause we like to play against eachother and compete to see which platoon manages to beat the other, so its not that suspicious that these guys managed to play against each other that many times,
Yaay doing his part
Question: How do you manage to get the 3 players you gonna farm as opponents?
The match maker picks random players, doesn't it?
Well in a platoon, all 3 of you land on the same side. But over 30 times them on the one team and him on the other, idk how dafak this works.
Good job QB, appreciate your time and efforts.
Great presentation QB. Its good for all gamers that play WOT that you are on the case. War gaming needs to protect their game and take firm action on this. Thumbs Up!
As a normal, regular player, I am disgusted from this conduct... I do not want to be a player in any of this teams in such a game... I think nobody wants. Well done for catching those cheaters, I hope they get what they deserve!
this is just one other reason i have quit playing WoT
Sadly, this is one of the reasons I quit WOT years ago. I wasn't a good enough player to be in tiers VIII-X, so I stuck with tier VI and lower where I was a bit more comfortable. Unfortunately, even at lower tiers, there were too many instances where (whether cheating was involved or not) there'd be a single player or 3 man platoon that would steamroll my entire team 0-15, leaving even my most experienced teammates with a 0 damage, 2 min. game. I was also on the winning team in these instances as well, earning next to nothing anyway, despite the overwhelming victory. Win or lose, I was getting nowhere. Maybe I'm just unlucky, I don't know, but this happened in my games A LOT, so I quit cold turkey to focus on other stuff instead of getting frustrated like this on the daily.
Sad to see this is still a problem after so many years away, so I'm glad I got out when I did.
The issue here is elsewhere..in the matchmaking, which is non existent if we take out this “template” system..
90% of games it’s either 15-3 or 3-15..
You quit playing ... but... but .. you are watching WoT videos !!! LOL !!! sad .. sad .. .sad person !
@@peterliapis5506 I don't play the game, but I support QB as a content creator. What's wrong with that?
you can load multi games at once from one pc, and start all of them at same time and get lucky in Q to get into same battle, and rig all by yourself very simple to do, just have to have the luck of getting in same battle and on different sides
Quickbaby, thank you for making this video. I have seen bizarre situations like this myself and always suspected something was amiss. Thank you also for investigating it so precisely and for taking it up with Wargaming. I am sure you'll get the standard response that we all do and so things will continue. It's a shame as their systems should be able to detect these anomalies for further investigation but I guess it's just not worth their while.
5 or 6 years ago everyone did this. When missions for special vehicles appeared, t-28 or t-55a, can't really remember. Several missions were really hard and they used to que together and hope to get into opposing teams. I participated in several of these " shame battles". 2 of us were in platoon and other friend, who needed his mission done was alone. I remember that there was a mission to destroy 2 SPGs with a single shell while you fight in your SPG. My friend and I stood together in a bush and knocked fence around until our friend "saw" us and fired.
in 2 battles, one of spgs survived and mission failed. In third battle, he managed to destroy us, but lost and mission failed... Victory was one of the conditions.
Hello QB, I've seen cheating far worse than this on the console version of the game. Where both teams farmed each other and cornered me and a few other players against houses to farm us. I sent it to wargaming support and they handled it very fast and were super nice.
Not that the console version is what you cover but this kind of cheating happens I guess.
Similarly happened to me when the enemy arty was communicating with an arty on my team, probably using a video stream of the battle. I was only able to tell because our 2 other artillery were blind killed at the beginning and the only artillery not killed was his friend who didn't fire a single shot. Also the enemy arty was blind firing my team no matter where they were. Of course I saved the replay and sent a ticket to WG.
and of course wg did nothing about it
I've seen this many times where there is a stream sniper and they do this in an arty to get fantastic damage. Because it is indirect fire, it's almost impossible to prove, but also completely obvious as nobody's RNG is that good. Like 2 shots out of nowhere hit our arty way out of render range. Lucky guesses or...?
I was like 6...7 years ago playing arty with my friend physically at same room and we end up to opposite teams. Hahaha, first we helped each other to kill everyone else by looking each other screens - and luckily managed to do it !!! Then we just drove to middle to meet and dance together, everyone were furious but we did laugh our asses off, I have still somewhere a video I made from the battle :) it was a "once in a lifetime event" :)
how did leopard knew he would end up in the same game as his friends who helped him? before if in a platoon and you clicked play/battle at the same time, there was a 30% chance you got in the same game, but was that not changeD?
Here via Claus Kellerman's recommendation. Good work QB. The opinion in the comments on his response/musings, is that it'll be worse than you may be suggesting ie a great many platoons "boosting" stats for other players in a session. He also looked at quite a few of the "highest damage" games and they all appear either rigged or possible only because the game "broke", so skewing the numbers even further for legit MoE players.
The word integrity should NEVER be in the same sentence with WOT unless the word NO is in front of it.
best comment every concerning WG
Sad to see this as I was an early beta tester in WoT, WoWP and Late Alpha tester in WoWS. I still play all three on occasion along with over a dozen other games. Pretty sure they are using Discord to coordinate the Game play cheats. I play an aggressive style working the game walls to detect ones who hide in the corners.
*concentrates*
I believe I can predict the response from WG...
"Thank you for contacting Wargaming Player Support.
We are sorry that you have to meet such players. We understand how frustrating this situation can be.
With the information you have provided us, we took appropriate measures according to our Game Rules and punishment instructions. Unfortunately, we cannot disclose the exact measures we took due to the protection of data privacy. We appreciate your understanding. However, we assure you that violations of the Game Rules are met with appropriate sanctions.
We wish you a great day and good luck on the battlefield.
If there is anything else we can help you with, please do not hesitate to contact us again. "
'...but they have paid accounts, so we won't do anything..'
Is-7 and Obj-277 havent played for a year but the E-100 is still active
The leopard 1 on the enemy is also still active.
this happend to me and i reported and send a replay but nothing was done
I've quit this game like 4 to 5 years ago. I'm amazed how little this nonsense has changed.
I almost bet this is a level-up "service" in operation trying to complete missions.
100% acurate
A few weeks ago, I’ve started playing WoTB again after a 3 year break. I can call myself a very above average “good” player, but the amount of utter noobs is just insane and the play style looks very bot-ish to me. Seeing this happening in WoT started me thinking.
I play tier 4 and I swear this happens to me a lot
tbh when i started out wot i never knew the showing tanks module mod was considered a hack lol thankfully i didnt put high tier stuff and learned my lesson quick
It wasn't considered a hack. It just ruins the look of the game. Also, not zones are easy to remember anyway since almost all tracks share similar module locations.
@@nomar5spaulding oh? i didn't know that. i thought the fact that i cant get into a game means thats its an illegal mod. or atleast its categorised as a hack
@@johnnyted446 Maybe they changed their minds on it, but it never used to be an illegal mod. I never used it but I've known plenty of people who did. It was always controversial as hell. Personally I think mods that remove foliage are worse...
Looks like the Leopard1 player involved here didn't play for a week or two, suggesting he may have received a ban. However, he is back playing now although his stats have dramatically fallen in the same way that they previous stepped up to unicum levels.
I had the same in SEA. Six sense didnt go off but this St. Emil kept shooting at me like it knew where I was no matter how I move to another positio in the bushes.
tbh they might be real players being farmed as i saw a player called marybanks from the clan rebrn and he/she WOT stats are ' amazing ' and a must see. most bots are more useful
QB, great work! Appreciate your observations and iron will against fraud.
This kind of crap, has been going on for years. I have been hit, when not even spotted, telling me that someone on my side was helping the other side. But, as far as the game being rigged, it is. I may play 30 games, lose 3/4ths of them, just because I am stuck with weaker players. Normally, it's not even close. Most of these people have no clue about tactics. But, I can do more damage than anyone, have more kills, but cannot win because of all the weak players on my team.
Happens to me on a regular basis. I once lost 12 in a row in a vehicle I was excellent in. Was top 5 on my team in most of the battles but only 3 of them were even close.
Would like to see a video from you on the other forms of cheating such as illegal mods. I know WG says they catch these but I know a few players who have them and use them so I have to call into question WG's claim on that front.
If you know of players that cheat, and you have not reported them, your just as much of the problem as they are. Put your man panties on and report them. Otherwise your just condoning what they are doing.
This is what klaus has been showing for years. Welcome to the club
I was also feel angry when i was watching the stream. Similarly, i have faced some cases that some players intentionally push me down the hill. However, there is nothing been done by wargaming after i have reported the players in the system you mentioned. Is the reporting system useful? I dont think so.
Do you know what time in the stream it happend, kinda want to see his live reaction
@@Evvair i am not sure but the time chop i remeber is around 7:40 in his stream
Probably all 6 players are from same clan. They comunicate under TS/discord..... Nothing new. They are resolving missions, or pumping up wn8 or chasing 3rd marks of excellence.
@@Leka78 3 heavy tanks yes, leo not
I've already submitted several Physics Abuse reports and always checked the reported player on wot-life and always saw at least a week long ban. In one case, the player was either banned forever or just stopped playing as there was no activity since then. So from my perspective, this system works. It's just too bad that you have to go to the support page and can't do it directly from the game.
QB, you're missing one possibility here. There are people who offer their services in getting Obj 279e for real money and this is how they do that as well. I doubt it's about MoE.
there are basically no missions form block to be done in this way, so it wont be for 279e
I had a couple of games like this Sunday, now I am thinking this is what was happening? I was thinking how 3 t10 tanks do 0 damage
Happened to me many times. When I said there are cheaters... Well... Nobody believed me. Also spotted cheater on Twitch channel - will not say his name - in live... auto aiming, auto shooting, aimbotting. During the live he shot a bush and killed a tank without seeing it... Unfortunately, WG not shown too much interest when I found some cheaters and gave them evidences. They stated: "Please keep in mind that we do not manually punish players using forbidden modifications, our automatic system is taking care of this." So, until the automatic system is not picking them up, we have no luck...
Cheating platoon > romanian players. No surprise here.
It's not just romanians but whatever
Reminds me of the Mw2 days when my crew would hunt down tack insert boosting
Seen your reaction live on twitch yesterday QB, ooofff those guys....I personally find the support should split the punishments, permanently ban the 0-Damage Platoon, and for the boosted players....reset their progress back to fresh, all research gone, all crews gone and all tanks gone.
Do you know the time stamp in the stream
Simple: permban to all 6 of them.
@@Evvair Review of the replay starts at 7h 35mins in yesterdays VoD
@@Faraleth89 thanks dude
This has happened to me too.
I had not played for almost a year, then I got an e-mail from WoT, showing my stats for the previous 30 days.
I had apparently played a few hundred games, less than 20% winrate and under 800WN8.
Even tho I hadn't played for a long while, I immediately changed my password.
Oh my god, man, i played frontline yesterday, what I saw there is terrible.This game turned into frustration..they simply shot to perfection, 9 out of 10 shots were with penetration, and they did it while driving..I'm waiting for steel aces to come out, let's see how is this game ..
Respect for calling them out.
Like, getting 3 marks on a leo 1 is one of the most difficult things you can do in this game.
And just because he is willing to open his wallet to get bragging rights, he is ruining someone's legit attempt at it.
What a shame.
Hello. I had a game with a cheater and that's quite sad to see the way people want to perform in spite of everything ! And your videos are so good, I wish you to continue on !
I played in a weekly tournament where one of the clans fielded three separate teams of bots. With auto aim and snapshot enabled. As evidenced by the fact that they tried to shoot me 3 times each while I was hugging a building between them and me. Only for them to shot me the moment I reappeared from a different direction. Somehow we managed to sneak up on their stationary tanks and win anyway. Everyone that played them reported them.
i have old replay where 7 from 30 players in game jumped in water in first minute of battle. 1 teamete and 2 enemies were from same clan
When I saw the blind fires I had a chill thinking there's a hack that can see unspotted tanks.....after the video, oh well, just a bunch of cheaters lol
I am so glad you did this. I often get spotted in my scout that has great spot range while in heavy cover as you taught us. and, get killed with no one on my scope
I have noticed a huge uptick on console in people on my team suiciding followed by a sudden inexplicable enemy shot into my hull down undetected location......
How can the leopard guarantee that he will face the platoon? If you say they click battle at the same time what makes them face the leopard and not being in their same team? This point confused me
possibly 10+ platoons and 10+ players like leopard plot together, which will increase the possibility.
@@brucemarshall6388 That would require a huge team to pull it off and could result in Leo vs Leo situations.
Just two 3-man platoons like here will do the trick.
Why does WG need anymore evidence? Permanently banning those accounts should be a easy route of action.
There are too many players rigging games in order to achieve some mark or daily mission or campaign objectives. How often do we see lights go on suicidal spotting runs at beginning of game when we have no arty? Done merely because they have an objective to meet, so tank suicides and team then blind. WG encourages players not to win randoms, through all the missions and objectives.
WG should change the game, so only marks/objectives/missions are only met when your team wins.
Players would focus on the win rather than the objectives. Too often you see top tier players setting the team up to fail so they can then farm maximum damage at the back of the map.
Game needs to change.
Just got a feeling , that's only a tip of the iceberg. The usual race vs Anti-cheat maker's and hacker's. Cheater's account get banned and enter a new one.
I'm still missing part of the equation - how did the Leopard know where to shoot? Something like the others saying "We'll park behind the big bushes at big rock at A5"???
This happened a lot on the NA server about a year or so ago. People would do this to get 3 marks in their chieftain and then sell the account.
That is just common smurfing. Its a big thing in Valorant, where its common to team with people who sabotage in order to boost their client playing on the other team. I think its less common in WOT because there are more players in every game. I hope WOT make sure those kinds of operations don't become a problem in WOT
I have suddenly seen more three stripers lately. maybe this is why. Thanks for getting this up front QB.
hustý podvod, to už fakt je za hranicí, takhle kazit hru všem v týmu! Lovu zdar
Havent played this game in years. Was shit then, and is shit now. WG doesnt give a damn about any of its games
The only thing I will remember is the tomato move of that guy going low part on hill.. 3300+ WN8 DonkeyBaby always make me laugh that’s why I stop sometimes for 30sec on twitch and have a good one and feel better about my shitty moves in game..
You know, I have wondered sometimes when the team I am on gets wiped out without either getting any kills or barely doing any damage in return, if something is going on. I play on the North American server.
Well , the Leopard 1 was caught cheating on september 12, he may have had a suspension, but he is back playing on September 24, and he kept the 3 marks on the Leopard.
So, no Wargaming does not do fuck all !
Sehr gut gemacht QuickyBaby 👍🏼
Prima, dass du diese Art von Cheating aufgedeckt hast, auf diesen Trick muss man erst mal kommen.
But honestly, what would we do without Quicky baby?? Thank you for your dedication to us, the players, of WoT.
Hi QB. I saw your video yesterday morning and at the evening our clan boss received a message from another player that one of our clan member did the same as you described in your video. It was unbelieve for us, that one of us did smth like that. We contacted him and he told us that he didn't play WoT almost 2 months. Mentioned issue happened on 17.9. He have to update his WoT on version 1.18 first to login. His password wasn't changed and nothing happened on his account. So it looks like someone used his account for this shitty cheating. Hope that WoT will solve this to avoid bad blood between players. GL&Hf for you and all WoT players.