3:1 is the oft-quoted minimum scope for a yacht with an all-chain rode. A dinghy is more likely to have a rope rode with a metre or two of chain at the anchor and will require a much longer scope as you correctly state. 6:1 sounds more like it.
Riddled with errors and poorly executed. I know exactly where in Chichester Harbour this took place and that gives me two options as to who got it so wrong. Honestly I am not happy that my membership fees have gone towards this. 1. Scope, as per the other poster it should be 6 times the depth. That is in the RYA Powerboat Handbook as a specific ratio. The older copy of the National Sailing Scheme Instructor Handbook makes reference to Anchoring in “Teaching the Advanced Modules” but it makes no reference other than length of warp (whilst not giving a figure!). Admittedly where they drop anchor there in the harbour it’s soft mud and you’re likely to hold on a 3:1 scope. But please educate the user that it should be 6:1 scope. 2. Balance the boat! Even a non sailor can see that with helm and crew on the same side the boat is leaning over too far to one side. If you kept the helm on the opposite side the boat would sit flat and be far easier to steer straight, hold its position and give a more secure position for the crew to deploy and recover the anchor. 3. Time to be harsh… it’s likely that the crew is a summer only instructor and may not have had the correct centre briefing on how to recover the anchor. Even the narrator had to make reference to NOT pulling the chain over the side of the vessel. In a stroke they have reduced the resale value and damaged sailing centre equipment. You could see that was the natural and quite likely only way they had been shown how to recover. And although the narrator says not to do it they proceed to drag the chain the full length against the hull. Hand over hand recovery for a small 2kg dinghy anchor could ensure that the chain doesn’t rub against the hull and solve this problem. 4. The crew then deposits the anchor with a huge lump of mud on it into the vessel. That mud will now be ground into every surface and likely cover the sail if you drop it into the bottom of the boat. Once again ruining valuable sailing centre equipment. It takes nothing to shake the anchor and release the mud so that it can be recovered cleanly on board. 5. Now I have to check all my above spelling…. The text on that final activity says “bare away”. So many things I could say here in the cause for reader amusement. But remember spell check doesn’t work for everything and if you need to be told that it should be “bear away” then that’s a sad indictment of the world we live in. No doubt this was done with the best of intentions. Take this as evidence that your videos are watched by many many sailors with different skill sets. I can’t stand by and let poor guidance be taken as gospel.
@@patrickmolloy6994 crikey, Patrick I thought I was being a touch harsh on them. But I’m certainly with you on this one. I don’t have access to any dinghies at present but I’m happy to be your crew and we can re-shoot it for them if you have a dinghy handy 👍🏻👍🏻
You’re nearer the mark than you think….. The Eastney nudist beach (a bit cold this time of year) is 9.3 nautical miles away from the anchoring point by water. It would take you approximately 40 minutes to get there, remembering Chichester Harbour is an 8 knots speed limit and once in open water (a thousand yards from the shore) then a 25 knot cruise should get you there in fine style. Beware of the Chichester Harbour entrance in a strong ebb tide and an onshore wind, not a place to be for the faint hearted.
Hi. Can I ask why the 3 x ratio of chain & warp is used as I thought it is usually 6x as a recommended minimum or 4x for all chain. Thanks.
3:1 is the oft-quoted minimum scope for a yacht with an all-chain rode. A dinghy is more likely to have a rope rode with a metre or two of chain at the anchor and will require a much longer scope as you correctly state. 6:1 sounds more like it.
Riddled with errors and poorly executed.
I know exactly where in Chichester Harbour this took place and that gives me two options as to who got it so wrong. Honestly I am not happy that my membership fees have gone towards this.
1. Scope, as per the other poster it should be 6 times the depth. That is in the RYA Powerboat Handbook as a specific ratio. The older copy of the National Sailing Scheme Instructor Handbook makes reference to Anchoring in “Teaching the Advanced Modules” but it makes no reference other than length of warp (whilst not giving a figure!). Admittedly where they drop anchor there in the harbour it’s soft mud and you’re likely to hold on a 3:1 scope. But please educate the user that it should be 6:1 scope.
2. Balance the boat! Even a non sailor can see that with helm and crew on the same side the boat is leaning over too far to one side. If you kept the helm on the opposite side the boat would sit flat and be far easier to steer straight, hold its position and give a more secure position for the crew to deploy and recover the anchor.
3. Time to be harsh… it’s likely that the crew is a summer only instructor and may not have had the correct centre briefing on how to recover the anchor. Even the narrator had to make reference to NOT pulling the chain over the side of the vessel. In a stroke they have reduced the resale value and damaged sailing centre equipment. You could see that was the natural and quite likely only way they had been shown how to recover. And although the narrator says not to do it they proceed to drag the chain the full length against the hull. Hand over hand recovery for a small 2kg dinghy anchor could ensure that the chain doesn’t rub against the hull and solve this problem.
4. The crew then deposits the anchor with a huge lump of mud on it into the vessel. That mud will now be ground into every surface and likely cover the sail if you drop it into the bottom of the boat. Once again ruining valuable sailing centre equipment. It takes nothing to shake the anchor and release the mud so that it can be recovered cleanly on board.
5. Now I have to check all my above spelling…. The text on that final activity says “bare away”. So many things I could say here in the cause for reader amusement. But remember spell check doesn’t work for everything and if you need to be told that it should be “bear away” then that’s a sad indictment of the world we live in.
No doubt this was done with the best of intentions. Take this as evidence that your videos are watched by many many sailors with different skill sets. I can’t stand by and let poor guidance be taken as gospel.
totally agree, I'd like this video taken down and the whole thing recorded properly !
@@patrickmolloy6994 crikey, Patrick I thought I was being a touch harsh on them. But I’m certainly with you on this one.
I don’t have access to any dinghies at present but I’m happy to be your crew and we can re-shoot it for them if you have a dinghy handy 👍🏻👍🏻
It's "bear away" not " bare away" at 2'14" unless you were near the nudist beach!
You’re nearer the mark than you think…..
The Eastney nudist beach (a bit cold this time of year) is 9.3 nautical miles away from the anchoring point by water. It would take you approximately 40 minutes to get there, remembering Chichester Harbour is an 8 knots speed limit and once in open water (a thousand yards from the shore) then a 25 knot cruise should get you there in fine style. Beware of the Chichester Harbour entrance in a strong ebb tide and an onshore wind, not a place to be for the faint hearted.