Rosie, a woman from an era where you had to drop hints of your orientations, or not say anything at all Rosie, the Overlord who knows Alastor is ace, even though he doesn’t grasp the word Rosie, who offered a bi girl comfort and advice about her relationship with no judgment We stan Rosie in this household.
I might’ve had to be the 70th like, but you right. If I had someone like Rosie as a child, I probably wouldn’t have spent 1000’s of dollars on therapy a year. Oh well
Yeah no, Elijah's 100% right, Carmilla is HOT. The legs, the hair, the way she moves, that VOICE, the fact that her power is literally stepping on you...
I always missed why she suddenly had loosen hair and only now I realize it's because they changed the line in Italian!😱In Italian Vaggie doesn't say 16:37 - 16:40 she says:"By beating me until I bleed?!The teacher who butchers the student?!😠"
21:11 In a sense,….she mentored her into taking a leap of faith. I also just noticed that the design of them are different, that she doesn’t have exorcist wings with the black stripes. It might also be a metaphor for how before Charlie, she and her wings were black and white, but now like her pilot outfit and her new wings not only match her skin, but are in…”shades of grey”!
It's also possible Carmilla let her hair down to help teach Vaggie how to fight with long hair, especially since when they mirror each other their hair follows the mirrored movements.
Charlie attempting to rally cannibals: CONFUSED CANNIBALISM Charlie attempting to comprehend Vaggie lying to her: CONFUSED ROMANTICISM Carmilla with her hair down: CONFUSED LESBIANISM
Alastor's deal. "One favour at a time of my choosing where you harm no one." Key word: YOU. People may get hurt, as long as Charlie isn't directly hurting them. Alastor may very well wreak carnage. Of course, 'at a time of my choosing' is likely very important too. Timing is always important.
Interesting. I also think the "No one" here also includes him, probably there will be a time when Charlie couldn't do anything to help her people directly bc it may result in some sort of "harm" ?
Oh god he says "YOU harm no oneeee, i thought he said no one is harmeddd and i was like AH HA loophole for the loophole. Iv been thinkin about this encounter between these two sm. He is so useing her for freeing his contract. (srry if this was confusing to read im sleep deprived gimme a break lol)
I’m almost 100% sure that that’s not a loophole. I’m pretty sure Alastor isn’t using any sneaky wording and that all he wants is Charlie to free him from his contract in order to make it so that Great Alastor is once again the puppet master.
@traehignight3642 Yeah, that likely is the case. I just enjoy the theoretical side of things. The more I think into it, the more I come up with. It can be rather entertaining. \ ( ^ω^ )/ (There is still something in the overly lighthearted, casual manner he spoke in that makes me think loopholes are still a possibility. But, he is an entertainer... So who really knows 😁)
@@Realitysceptic42 Fair. We’ll see eventually. Mind if I ask a random question(this is mainly because there are old characters that I’m curious to see if others remember
I think the issue with Vaggie's wings is the same reason she didn't tell Charlie about her past. Subconsciously, she felt unworthy of her girlfriend's love. But when she finally let go of her doubt and self hate, her full potential was unleashed.
Additionally, they're are different from her original wings. So I think it's also an evolution of sorts, because before she used them for extermination and now it's about protecting Charlie and Charlie's dream.
I took it as her focusing her whole being on protecting the one she loves, and protecting those in need is the true role of a warrior angel. She reaffirmed who she really is, and that caused her angelic nature to re-manifest.
@@jp3of4 Side note, but I found that even her original wings were different from all the other exorcist angels'. Vaggie's previous wings had only a single black stripe on each of them, while all the other exorcists had two.
@@suchomimustenerensis5302 It couldve been a design choice, but it could have also indicated that perhaps she was not as cold hearted as the others, considering she found herself unable to harm the sinner child and tried to help him hide. Just something I was thinking about.
Vaggie’s emotional reaction at the end makes so much sense to me. The last time she disappointed her squad, she was immediately seen as a traitor and completely abandoned, and she probably 100% assumed that these ones would do the same now that they know she lied to them BUT THEY DIDN'T SHE HAS ACTUAL FRIENDS NOW WHO ARE ACTUALLY LOYAL
Rosie's voice and accent were very much not what I expected, but once I realized it the inspiration it made sense. It's a role that Carol Channing owned on Broadway and Barbra Streisand performed in a movie. Dolly Levi, socialite turned matchmaker, from the musical "Hello Dolly." Thus the title of the episode, "Hello Rosie."
Good to know. I never knew what that play was about just that it existed, I assumed the name of the episode was a reference but it still ment next to nothing to me
I just found out razzle and dazzle were charlie's favorite stuffed animals that lucifer brought to life to protect her and be with her where ever she goes Them consoling her as she cries is even more wholesome
A few theories regarding Al not wanting Charlie’s soul: 1. He can’t. As Lucifer’s daughter and princess of Hell, he can’t take her soul in a deal like another sinner. OR the constraints of his own deal prevent him from taking souls in deals. 2. He genuinely doesn’t want it. He wants the favor because he hopes Charlie can order or convince whoever has him on a leash to let him go. Side note: I love Rosie. I kinda remember someone saying she was Jewish in life. If that is the case, as someone who is Jewish, she’s great. Her interactions with Charlie are like a Jewish mother or grandmother. Absolute perfection.
Also possible that he knows the nano-second Lucifer would catch whiff of him laying a finger on his daughter's soul he'd be turned into a grease-smear. lol
"He genuinely doesn’t want it. He wants the favor because he hopes Charlie can order or convince whoever has him on a leash to let him go." I feel it's this one. In the cannibal song he declares her with "So much potential I could guide." I believe he considers her a more valuable asset if manipulated instead of outright controlled. If he took her soul and it got out (or the eye theory is correct), her reputation and status as princess of hell might become worthless since she's obviously under Alastor's sway. Plus the wrath of Lucifer. But if he continued to endear himself to her and manipulates and puppeteers her from the background instead, he could achieve a lot more with her help.
I think that Alastor just didn't want to overplay his hand. It's easier to get a hesitant target to agree to an unfavourable deal by softening your hand. Compared to a soul, a "mere" favour seems like nothing in comparison and is much easier to fall for. Plus if Alastor had demanded a soul and Charlie refused, all his goodwill would have been used up and he would have been left with nothing. He could still have backed out gracefully if Charlie refused a simple favour.
@Suthek BUILDING ON THAT. I think the answer is far simpler. Potential. Who would actually try to become stronger if they had no control over their own selves? You don't eat a half cooked Turkey. You marinate, baste it, let it cook and roil in the flavors for a truly filling meal. Alastor knows she has an insane amount of power within her. So why take her now? When she doesn't even know it herself?
@@LillianRodriguez-lh2zfyou'd be surprised how much people will try to explain things away. There's a joke where a character will say "I am trans" directly into the camera and people will still question what they mean. Sometimes it's people being dumb or oblivious, other times people just not liking whatever the person is. It's always nice for things to be flat out said just because people will try to explain away everything otherwise.
I SPED IT UP AT THE PART WHERE YOU WERE SCREAMING ABOUT VAGGIE'S WINGS AND IT WAS SO FUNNY- ALSO when alastor was being creepy and stuff at 24:52 Rosie acted like his parent and was like "Don't kill her just singggggggg." and I fell off my bed-
My theory as to why Vaggie got her wings back: All her life after having her wings clipped she was probably fighting for the wrong reasons. As Carmilla said, she was fighting for bloodshed. After she solidified her reason to fight, which was to protect the people she loved and it being a "good" reason (as in alignment), her angelic powers probably just repaired her wings. Doing things for the right reasons seems to be a thing that "Heaven" rewards, at least in the last two episodes.
That's such a good theory! I haven't thought of it that way, but it makes so much sense that her wings grow back now that she has "pure reasons" if you can said it like that.
Along with Carmilla Carmine and Zestial, Rosie has become one of my favorite Overlords. She’s such a sweetheart… for a Cannibal Demon. Side Note: *Ready for This* was definitely worth the wait. It was one *helluva* musical number!
I love the note that it seems like most of the overlords are kind of just chill. So long as you don't antagonize them, that is. And then you have the V's, who are hyper aggressive with every decision that they make.
"Just because you see a smile, don't think you know what's going on underneath." That is an interesting line from Alastor. There are times where he's shown that he's angry, frustrated, or irritated, even though he's smiling all the time. The eye twitch gives it away.
23:06 The reason Rosie is probably so down to earth is because cannibals (Despite their twisted taste) are still human. It's been said that cannibals don't eat human meat because of taste but rather because of how taboo it is, the adrenaline that comes with knowing you're eating human flesh is an addiction. Something a lot of them probably aren't proud of but can't stop, so they just *put on a smile* and continue life. This is why Alastor's quote "Just because you see a smile doesn't mean you know everything below the surface." brings up Rosie. Rosie... a cannibal that smiles all the time and seems okay with herself, clearly has a bit of shame shown by her frown when saying "It can be hard for someone to admit something their ashamed of." This can also apply to Angel Dust back in episode 4 and how Husk kept calling him out for being fake and trying to hide everything he hates and feels ashamed of.
🎵I know something you don’t knoooooow🎵 I swear, if a crossover between Owl House and Hazbin Hotel ever happened, Alastor would feel right at home on the Boiling Isles.
31:43 the reason why alastor did that face was because he IS the cruelist overlord. Shoot im tying on phone i will tell you all what each overlord does. Vox: in charge of hells electricity Valentino: owns a lot of night clubs and adult films. Has the ability to defend himself from every overlord Velvet: in charge of hell's social media Rosie: owns Rosie's emporium and is the strongest overlord in cannibal town. Said by alastor Husk: he is a former overlord Alastor: strongest overlord, was the quickest sinner to become an overlord, was the only overlord who would take down other overlords casually. And has voodoo like powers. Zestial: we down know much about him, but we do know thst hes been in hell for a long time, stated by alastor Carmilla: in charhe of angelic weapons and makes all weapons in hell The rest of the overlords arent known because alastor killed them, the ones that are still alive. We have no information about them.
18:00 Still no one realizes, Vaggie says "I'm not used to fighting with long hair" as an excuse for why she's getting her ass kicked. And Carmilla said "You won't use that as an excuse" and let her hair down to "balance things out."
Carmilla Carmine with her hair down reminded me why I'm bisexual and not gay XD XD SHE IS SO PRETTY!!! And Out For Love is such a great song, I only wish that it was longer!!!
So, after the finale, my theory is that Alastor's favor will be Charlie handing him rule over Hell. She will technically not harm anyone, as she is basically stepping down from her responsibilities, and that may also free Alastor, as he will become the one pulling all the strings.
At first time I didn’t understand how Vaggie grew her wings back, and then I remembered that Lute tore them off and didn’t cut them off with an angelic weapon, like Vaggie’s eye, which she would never get back. That’s why she was able to get her wings back.
That's a good point. Combine that with the angels being able to conceal their wings and it makes me wonder if her wings had already grown back and she just didn't realize it because of how down she's been and hiding who she was.
I can't believe you got Tomotasauce to see this with you. That's so cool. I hope you two do more collabs in the future. Anyway, Rosie is awesome, I didn't expect her to be like a cool aunt or to love her so much. Also, "Out For Love" is such a bop, and the end where Vaggie gets her wings makes me shout with joy every time.
@@prestonandtom9337 He is probably the strongest sinner in hell but compared to high ranks like Lucifer, Lilith, the sins, seraphims, etc, he doesn't stand a chance
@@prestonandtom9337honestly he is. In the final when Angels attack he creates a shield that not only stops angels but also hurts them when they impact with it. Keep in mind angels are supposed to be unhurtable
Alastor's favor is going to be that Charlie breaks his contract to whomever owns him. It's why he keeps encouraging her, keeps guiding her. Whoever has him on a leash, he probably thinks Charlie isn't just the one with the power to free him, but the only one who'd want give him his freedom. That's my prediction.
I think he may or may not do something like that, but that he doesn't necessarily have concrete plans so much as waiting to see how things develop before playing his cards accordingly. That is, that favor could be any number of things, while still keeping himself in her good graces("Alastor could have asked for my soul, but he didn't. All he wanted was a harmless favor. Maybe he does care...", whereas if he asked for her soul he's instantly made enemies of everyone and crushed any goodwill he had). For example, he could always twist his own words. A "favor where she harms no one" could easily mean making it so she _can't_ fight him when he plays his hand.
11:11 Rosie is literally aunt Mary Poppins if she was cannibal. 11:35 No wonder she is the leader of the Cannibal Colony, she acts more like a mom than a leader . 16:10 Charlie Morningstar curse at Susan is freaking unexpected and funny as hell. 22:07 Rosie is sweet enough to give good advice to Charlie. Wouldn't be surprising she ate some brains to be that smart or just reads books like Alastor.
GURL SAME!!!!! When I saw Carmilla with her hair down I was like "HELLO MA'AM 😍😍😍😳😳😳" She SLAYS 💅🏾💅🏾💅🏾💅🏾 And I also love how everyone I've seen compares her song to Pearl's do it for her song 🤭🤭🤭
The absolute CHAOS that unleashed when Vaggie got her wings back was the highlight of this episode Also you may need to invest in some magic healing potion for your throat for the next episode-
HE STOPED SMILING at 3:11 HE STOPED FUCKING SMILING WHEN HE SAID AND I QUOTE "dooming everyone you love" HE STOPED SMILING!!!!!!! AND IT DID A CLOSE UP TO HIS FACE WHEN HE SAYS IT AND STOPS SMILING WHICH MEANS THEY WANTED US TO CATCH THAT SHIT WTF ( you have to slow it all the way to see him stop smiling)
Late but I always just thought it was the animation because it would probably be a bit hard to animate someone talking if they were smiling the whole time but thats a good point
@@idontreallylikelongnames Oh my god that scene is amazing😭 I didn’t do a cover of the reprise, but I did the Father Daughter duet on my channel. That song also made me cry. Specifically the line “I’ve missed that smile” when I first heard it. I just started sobbing because it was just the sweetest thing ever😅
@@yeoabzzz And the song in that scene, Out For Love, is INSANELY AMAZING. I saved it to my watch later playlist. *It. Goes. So. Hard.* Honestly I have a good amount of songs now from HH and HB in that playlist. Well okay, mostly HH songs, but I did save Look My Way from Helluva Boss, because it is gorgeous❤️🔥
Alastor's smile... He sees emotions as weakness, and smiling and being happy about everything is power to him. Negative emotions mean that person is weak and can break down. He's always smiling to make it seem like nothing gets to him and he has the upper hand at all times
I'm just confused why no one seems to notice that he looks genuinely infuriated and frustrated after Charlie says that she can't understand how he can just enjoy everyone's suffering. Like, that dark flush in his face shows volumes. He is peeved so much. And yet, I have yet to see it mentioned by anybody. It's not like it isn't evident! Even though his tone is genial and even-keeled during his discussion on the importance of a smile, his wording differs. It is literally a thinly-disguised, angry rant about how she has badly failed to see through his mask of a smile. Which would imply that he lied about being there for suffering, or no longer feels that way. Even his body language changes. His physical contact with Charlie has been through dance, hugs, or making fatherly gestures (to piss or not piss off Lucifer, that is the question). But then, his body language became creepier, more aggressive. He grips her harder, forces her mouth into a smile, etc.
My guess is that Rosie sounds like she's from the Bronx because she's absolutely based on Dolly Levi from "Hello, Dolly!" and in the movie, Dolly was played by Barbara Streisand.
22:35 Rosie is like that wise, regal aunt who always knows exactly what to say to comfort and guide you. Possibly while wondering if your liver would pair well with a nice Chianti.
Rosie, a woman from an era where you had to drop hints of your orientations, or not say anything at all
Rosie, the Overlord who knows Alastor is ace, even though he doesn’t grasp the word
Rosie, who offered a bi girl comfort and advice about her relationship with no judgment
We stan Rosie in this household.
I might’ve had to be the 70th like, but you right. If I had someone like Rosie as a child, I probably wouldn’t have spent 1000’s of dollars on therapy a year.
Oh well
We stan Rosie. She's the mom/auntie friend we all need. No wonder cannibal town is so pleasant with her in charge.
I thought Rosie was hellborn
@@crypt5129 she might be. It's never confirmed if she is or not, as far as I know. But that would be cool if she is.
@@crypt5129she is an overlord, therefore she is a sinner
Yeah no, Elijah's 100% right, Carmilla is HOT. The legs, the hair, the way she moves, that VOICE, the fact that her power is literally stepping on you...
She got the legs 💞
Dem Legs
Carmilla is so hot fr, I would date her right away if she was a real person, like, I love her personality and design, she's a hot mommy ❤
FR SO HOT 😍 **gay noises**
Mommy 😍😳
I love how Carmilla lets her hair down right after Vaggie complains she's not used to fighting with long hair to show her how it's done.
I love it too
Yo, Carmilla is so sexy with her hair down, especially when she does the dance fight.
Yes I noticed that too, what a queen
@@Imtrashbutimfreeand a good mentor for teaching how to fight for love.
Pun not entirely intended.
I always missed why she suddenly had loosen hair and only now I realize it's because they changed the line in Italian!😱In Italian Vaggie doesn't say 16:37 - 16:40 she says:"By beating me until I bleed?!The teacher who butchers the student?!😠"
She unlocked her wings because Camila helped her unlock what angels are supposed to do....protect what you love and who you love.
AAAWWWHHHHHH 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭💕💕❤️❤️❤️
True
21:11 In a sense,….she mentored her into taking a leap of faith.
I also just noticed that the design of them are different, that she doesn’t have exorcist wings with the black stripes.
It might also be a metaphor for how before Charlie, she and her wings were black and white, but now like her pilot outfit and her new wings not only match her skin, but are in…”shades of grey”!
That's awesome
And bc she cut her shirt
I love how Carmilla let down her hair right after Vaggie said that she wasn't used to fighting with long hair to prove that hair wasn't the issue
That's my favorite little detail. I love that Carmilla's immediate response to Vaggie making excuses is to start flexing without hesitation.
I always viewed it as Carmilla leveling the playing field. She normally keeps her hair up, so she'd also be unused to fighting with it down.
It's also possible Carmilla let her hair down to help teach Vaggie how to fight with long hair, especially since when they mirror each other their hair follows the mirrored movements.
She's like "skill issue"
Charlie attempting to rally cannibals: CONFUSED CANNIBALISM
Charlie attempting to comprehend Vaggie lying to her: CONFUSED ROMANTICISM
Carmilla with her hair down: CONFUSED LESBIANISM
Confused romanticism describes my dry, barren love life perfectly
Carmilla's graceful dancing and luxurious hair brings all the girls to the yard. And this boy right here too. She is unbelievably hot.
@@ScorpionViper1001 Damn right, her moves are better than ours
@@ScorpionViper1001all the girls and all the boys
You need to see the episode 8😊😊
I feel like Carmella pointing out all the obvious signs that Vaggie was an angel was a shot at everyone who thought otherwise
“You have a massive fucking x over ur eye. And an angel’s spear :/ “
@@UrFav_Fr3ak "it's not rocket science"
Her hair also has the angel wing pattern
I feel like it was more of a shot at people who thought they were special for "figuring it out."
Pffft, the eye thing was a good point, but demons still have their way of getting angelic weapons
Elijah: "Susan"
Charlie: *Susan?*
Alastor & Rosie: *Susan*
Lol
Comedy comes in threes!!! 😂
Their reaction to Susan is just presiouse!
Same lmao that was so well timed
Every time I hear that name, I always think back to Monsters vs Aliens. SUUUUUUUUSAN
20:57 Vaggie lost her wings as an Exorcist Angel, and now she's gained her new wings as a Guardian Angel! 😊🤍
14:11
Vaggie : We know an angel fell at your hands but we need to know how.
Carmilla : Nuh uh !
Vaggie : The fuck you mean nuh uh !?
This is so funny
[14:14 or 14:15] Carmilla: means "NOTHING" to Me
Real
Alastor's deal.
"One favour at a time of my choosing where you harm no one."
Key word: YOU.
People may get hurt, as long as Charlie isn't directly hurting them.
Alastor may very well wreak carnage.
Of course, 'at a time of my choosing' is likely very important too. Timing is always important.
Interesting. I also think the "No one" here also includes him, probably there will be a time when Charlie couldn't do anything to help her people directly bc it may result in some sort of "harm" ?
Oh god he says "YOU harm no oneeee, i thought he said no one is harmeddd and i was like AH HA loophole for the loophole. Iv been thinkin about this encounter between these two sm. He is so useing her for freeing his contract. (srry if this was confusing to read im sleep deprived gimme a break lol)
I’m almost 100% sure that that’s not a loophole. I’m pretty sure Alastor isn’t using any sneaky wording and that all he wants is Charlie to free him from his contract in order to make it so that Great Alastor is once again the puppet master.
@traehignight3642
Yeah, that likely is the case. I just enjoy the theoretical side of things.
The more I think into it, the more I come up with. It can be rather entertaining.
\ ( ^ω^ )/
(There is still something in the overly lighthearted, casual manner he spoke in that makes me think loopholes are still a possibility. But, he is an entertainer... So who really knows 😁)
@@Realitysceptic42 Fair. We’ll see eventually.
Mind if I ask a random question(this is mainly because there are old characters that I’m curious to see if others remember
I think the issue with Vaggie's wings is the same reason she didn't tell Charlie about her past. Subconsciously, she felt unworthy of her girlfriend's love. But when she finally let go of her doubt and self hate, her full potential was unleashed.
Additionally, they're are different from her original wings. So I think it's also an evolution of sorts, because before she used them for extermination and now it's about protecting Charlie and Charlie's dream.
I took it as her focusing her whole being on protecting the one she loves, and protecting those in need is the true role of a warrior angel. She reaffirmed who she really is, and that caused her angelic nature to re-manifest.
@@jp3of4 Side note, but I found that even her original wings were different from all the other exorcist angels'. Vaggie's previous wings had only a single black stripe on each of them, while all the other exorcists had two.
@@suchomimustenerensis5302 It couldve been a design choice, but it could have also indicated that perhaps she was not as cold hearted as the others, considering she found herself unable to harm the sinner child and tried to help him hide. Just something I was thinking about.
Vaggie’s emotional reaction at the end makes so much sense to me. The last time she disappointed her squad, she was immediately seen as a traitor and completely abandoned, and she probably 100% assumed that these ones would do the same now that they know she lied to them BUT THEY DIDN'T SHE HAS ACTUAL FRIENDS NOW WHO ARE ACTUALLY LOYAL
15:50
(Elija & TomotaSauce)
"Susan."
(Charlie)
"Susan?"
(Rosie & Alastor)
*"Susan."*
😂😂😂❤
The fact that my Grammy name is actually susan
Susan -_-
Rosie is the couple therapist Stolas and Blitzø desperately need😭😭😭
THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING 😂😂😂😂
Hell yes!
Rosie's voice and accent were very much not what I expected, but once I realized it the inspiration it made sense.
It's a role that Carol Channing owned on Broadway and Barbra Streisand performed in a movie. Dolly Levi, socialite turned matchmaker, from the musical "Hello Dolly."
Thus the title of the episode, "Hello Rosie."
I thought the same and I am so happy because I love Hello Dolly
Good to know. I never knew what that play was about just that it existed, I assumed the name of the episode was a reference but it still ment next to nothing to me
"Can we make her a therapist?"
I mean, sure, but bet that a session will cost you a leg... litteraly.
lol I get it
Maybe a couple of fingers as well. Or even a hand
But does it need to be YOUR leg?
@@amaccoy probably not
It's going to be a painful lesson, both literally and figuratively.
I just found out razzle and dazzle were charlie's favorite stuffed animals that lucifer brought to life to protect her and be with her where ever she goes
Them consoling her as she cries is even more wholesome
spoiler for ep 8
dazzle...
@@theoriginal____starwalkerthey were dolls so….
@@Revanbzn so maybe they can fixed!!
But if they made a statue :’(
21:30 “you just got the chair” …😮💨i know i know” had to bring her down before she did a leap of faith for Carmilla 😂😂😂
I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT
(But why is Carmilla sooo hot???)
23:03
Tomota: you just need to remember she loves you- GIVE ME YOUR ARM-
A few theories regarding Al not wanting Charlie’s soul:
1. He can’t. As Lucifer’s daughter and princess of Hell, he can’t take her soul in a deal like another sinner. OR the constraints of his own deal prevent him from taking souls in deals.
2. He genuinely doesn’t want it. He wants the favor because he hopes Charlie can order or convince whoever has him on a leash to let him go.
Side note: I love Rosie. I kinda remember someone saying she was Jewish in life. If that is the case, as someone who is Jewish, she’s great. Her interactions with Charlie are like a Jewish mother or grandmother. Absolute perfection.
Also possible that he knows the nano-second Lucifer would catch whiff of him laying a finger on his daughter's soul he'd be turned into a grease-smear. lol
Isn't Rosie the only Hellborn overlord?
"He genuinely doesn’t want it. He wants the favor because he hopes Charlie can order or convince whoever has him on a leash to let him go."
I feel it's this one. In the cannibal song he declares her with "So much potential I could guide." I believe he considers her a more valuable asset if manipulated instead of outright controlled. If he took her soul and it got out (or the eye theory is correct), her reputation and status as princess of hell might become worthless since she's obviously under Alastor's sway. Plus the wrath of Lucifer. But if he continued to endear himself to her and manipulates and puppeteers her from the background instead, he could achieve a lot more with her help.
I think that Alastor just didn't want to overplay his hand. It's easier to get a hesitant target to agree to an unfavourable deal by softening your hand. Compared to a soul, a "mere" favour seems like nothing in comparison and is much easier to fall for. Plus if Alastor had demanded a soul and Charlie refused, all his goodwill would have been used up and he would have been left with nothing. He could still have backed out gracefully if Charlie refused a simple favour.
@Suthek BUILDING ON THAT. I think the answer is far simpler. Potential. Who would actually try to become stronger if they had no control over their own selves?
You don't eat a half cooked Turkey. You marinate, baste it, let it cook and roil in the flavors for a truly filling meal.
Alastor knows she has an insane amount of power within her. So why take her now? When she doesn't even know it herself?
Rosie and Carmilla out here just being moms to these kids IT'S SO GOOD.
If I could’ve swapped my parents with them I would probably be less emotionally scarred
Helluva boss: **cries with a shoe and a burnt photo**
the best parents
@@Purple_SunSet_ mood
Finally it's directy confirmed in the series that Alastor is ace. In Rosie's words "he's an ace in the hole". ❤
Hasn’t Vivziepop hinted about him being ace for a while though??
@@LillianRodriguez-lh2zfyeah but I think what they’re saying is that they finally flat out said it in episode 7
@@LillianRodriguez-lh2zfyou'd be surprised how much people will try to explain things away. There's a joke where a character will say "I am trans" directly into the camera and people will still question what they mean. Sometimes it's people being dumb or oblivious, other times people just not liking whatever the person is. It's always nice for things to be flat out said just because people will try to explain away everything otherwise.
@black-shadow-eclipse "a what now?-" :D
That’s interesting
I SPED IT UP AT THE PART WHERE YOU WERE SCREAMING ABOUT VAGGIE'S WINGS AND IT WAS SO FUNNY- ALSO when alastor was being creepy and stuff at 24:52 Rosie acted like his parent and was like "Don't kill her just singggggggg." and I fell off my bed-
Elijah and Tomota give off so much sibling energy honestly 😂
My theory as to why Vaggie got her wings back: All her life after having her wings clipped she was probably fighting for the wrong reasons. As Carmilla said, she was fighting for bloodshed. After she solidified her reason to fight, which was to protect the people she loved and it being a "good" reason (as in alignment), her angelic powers probably just repaired her wings. Doing things for the right reasons seems to be a thing that "Heaven" rewards, at least in the last two episodes.
Plus, her new wings look more "pure" than her old wings. Soft silver instead of black.
That's such a good theory! I haven't thought of it that way, but it makes so much sense that her wings grow back now that she has "pure reasons" if you can said it like that.
Yes!!! Have a grat point in a lot movie, series, abaut angels try to "win" them wings helped humans
19:33
Step 1: Long hair
Step 2: Piercing gaze
Step 3: Dropped shoulder
Step 4: Commanding voice
Step -on me- 5: ???
Step 6: Profit... and gay panic
Also her ear rings are gorgeous
"Mommy?"
She IS not ready for ep 8
Muhahaha cant wait👹
@@ProfessorAlderhart shush!!
@@ProfessorAlderhartokey no spoilers
I deleted it no more spoilers
She probably watched all the episodes already haha
26:17 “Did you think we’re a bunch of PUSSYSS?! - Sir Pentious 2024 “
Pussies*
17:29 “about to get a call from Scotland pretty soon 🍵
Along with Carmilla Carmine and Zestial, Rosie has become one of my favorite Overlords. She’s such a sweetheart… for a Cannibal Demon.
Side Note: *Ready for This* was definitely worth the wait. It was one *helluva* musical number!
i love the *hellish* content were getting from spindle! im so ready to see blitz’s and stols’s musical duet!
@@1staarryeyed same, I need me some MLM content for once
I love the note that it seems like most of the overlords are kind of just chill. So long as you don't antagonize them, that is. And then you have the V's, who are hyper aggressive with every decision that they make.
Susan Appears:
Elijah: 💁🏻♀️Susan.
Charlie: 😒Susan?
Alastair & Rosie: 🙄Susan! 😂😂😂😂
lol
The community: Susan 😑
@@jacelt7353 yup
@@jacelt7353 Me: Fucking Susan…
I’m so glad I wasn’t the only lesbian who had a “gay panic”moment when Carmilla let her hair down. I was stunned into silence…
ME TOO. I had to pause and collect myself
Facts, I was stunned
Carmella so hot so nah
Same 😳🏳️🌈
Huh
I’m so glad you thought of Pearl from Steven Universe in that Carmilla song, because I thought of her too and I’ve seen NOBODY else mention it. Nice
We all need an Auntie Rosie to talk about of feelings to 😄
Charlie to Can'nibal Town: "im going to free your people"
*no reaction*
Alistor: "also free food"
*everybody cheers*
"Free" from what? Charlie passed some in episode one, so nothing's holding them in Cannibal Town if you mean that.
@@gamerbear84 she passed them while she was in their town
@@gamerbear84 Don't forget that it's free angel food. No cannibal has eaten angels before, so they are probably very intrigued to see how they taste
"Just because you see a smile, don't think you know what's going on underneath."
That is an interesting line from Alastor. There are times where he's shown that he's angry, frustrated, or irritated, even though he's smiling all the time. The eye twitch gives it away.
"I really hope that I'm ready for this"
*After Episode 8*
"Yeah, I was not ready for this..."
SO RELATABLE
this mama wasn't ready for trauma
She wasn't ready...
We all weren’t ready for it.
YOU JUST BOUGHT THAT CHAIR!!!!
-sibling energy😂
3:44 pointing out that Charlie has hooves and getting so happy about is probably my favorite part of this video!
Elijah having a gay moment with Carmilla and calling her "Mommy" really threw me off!! LOL!!!
You know have 111 likes because of me😊
@@damogittins3478WTF Are you talking about?
@@pikakin2375 When they liked the comment it turned to 111 likes, which is an Angel number. (I think) It isn’t rocket science
Timestamp?
Finally someone gets it!!!
21:00 "AHHHHH" "AHHHHHH"
"WHATT" "SHES GOT WINGS!!"
i love you guys 😭😭🫶
I love them too. They just - Screaming and hug each other lol
She was a fairy i’m saying this from an audio
Their little fallen Angel baby girl is growing up!
THE HUGGING AND SQUEEZING WHEN VAGGIE GOT HER WINGS BACK MADE MY DAY😭😭😭😭
Also 21:28
“YOU JUST BOUGHT THE CHAIR! 😱”
Me when i hate joy and fun @@tomsmitenieks1744
@@veronicapiccinini7956 that had me screaming, the way his voice went all: YoU jUsT bOuGhT tHe ChAiR!
23:06 The reason Rosie is probably so down to earth is because cannibals (Despite their twisted taste) are still human.
It's been said that cannibals don't eat human meat because of taste but rather because of how taboo it is, the adrenaline that comes with knowing you're eating human flesh is an addiction. Something a lot of them probably aren't proud of but can't stop, so they just *put on a smile* and continue life. This is why Alastor's quote "Just because you see a smile doesn't mean you know everything below the surface." brings up Rosie. Rosie... a cannibal that smiles all the time and seems okay with herself, clearly has a bit of shame shown by her frown when saying "It can be hard for someone to admit something their ashamed of."
This can also apply to Angel Dust back in episode 4 and how Husk kept calling him out for being fake and trying to hide everything he hates and feels ashamed of.
15:55 Holy hell, that "Suzan" couldn't have been more well placed XD That was hilarious!
Susan
🎵I know something you don’t knoooooow🎵
I swear, if a crossover between Owl House and Hazbin Hotel ever happened, Alastor would feel right at home on the Boiling Isles.
Eh he’d probably eat all the animal looking characters. Hopefully tibbles.
@@StuffhappensbutUprosper king would run like the devil was after him, wouldn’t he.? Probs because he’d be right
I think I would SOMEHOW trust Belos in charge more than Alastor.
@@DrSuperLuigiSeth1 Oh, he’ll overthrow Belos easy. And we know that’s given.
@@Fanboy_of_everything king can only get so far….and no wehs could save him.
21:10 I love the absolute chaos after Vaggie got her wings back🤣
Laughed so hard on the Susan part where Elijah, Charlie, Alastor and Rosie all went “Susan” after each other 😂😂😂
31:43 the reason why alastor did that face was because he IS the cruelist overlord. Shoot im tying on phone i will tell you all what each overlord does.
Vox: in charge of hells electricity
Valentino: owns a lot of night clubs and adult films. Has the ability to defend himself from every overlord
Velvet: in charge of hell's social media
Rosie: owns Rosie's emporium and is the strongest overlord in cannibal town. Said by alastor
Husk: he is a former overlord
Alastor: strongest overlord, was the quickest sinner to become an overlord, was the only overlord who would take down other overlords casually. And has voodoo like powers.
Zestial: we down know much about him, but we do know thst hes been in hell for a long time, stated by alastor
Carmilla: in charhe of angelic weapons and makes all weapons in hell
The rest of the overlords arent known because alastor killed them, the ones that are still alive. We have no information about them.
16:48 “you have giant x over your eye 😑” that sass is *chefs kiss* also it looks like Elijah got shot
Love how Alastor's like "the cruelest overlord you say? Hmm I wonder if i know ANYONE like that" I think it's really funny
Mosco watching this:
👁️👄👁️
"You called her mommy?"
The concentration on Elijah face for Carmilla on her hair down is so real for me.
Demon Latino mommy😂
I know right?!!!
@@ultimatebishoujo29 is she hellborn
@@tomkatt8274 I’m not sure
@@ultimatebishoujo29 nah, she's an Overlord.
How does she have kids
17:38 Elijah is having another arcane moment. THE ART!!!
18:00 Still no one realizes, Vaggie says "I'm not used to fighting with long hair" as an excuse for why she's getting her ass kicked. And Carmilla said "You won't use that as an excuse" and let her hair down to "balance things out."
Camilla did what is called a pro gaymer I mean gamer move
OMG HOW DID I JUST NOTICE THAT NOW, I've literally seen nobody except you point this out so far
Carmilla Carmine with her hair down reminded me why I'm bisexual and not gay XD XD
SHE IS SO PRETTY!!! And Out For Love is such a great song, I only wish that it was longer!!!
In the words of CinemaWins,
YUP!
Honestly can't blame you for that moment with Carmilla.
I'm a gay man but even I went
"Mommy? Sorry. Mommy? Sorry. Mommy?" LMFAO
Pan but same😅
I’m a straight woman but like… damn girl she GOT IT- makes you go MMM looking at her
Lol when I watch it I was impressed and kinda simping for Carmilla's hair down bc I was like
"Ummm (blush moment) 😅😂
as a straight dude it goes without saying
Same, I'm a boy and as gay as I can be, but holly damm, that woman made me cuestion so many things 😂
Bro not when they start full on having a AHHHH!! moment and when they start shaking the chair Aggressively😂😂 i cant today😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
So, after the finale, my theory is that Alastor's favor will be Charlie handing him rule over Hell. She will technically not harm anyone, as she is basically stepping down from her responsibilities, and that may also free Alastor, as he will become the one pulling all the strings.
At first time I didn’t understand how Vaggie grew her wings back, and then I remembered that Lute tore them off and didn’t cut them off with an angelic weapon, like Vaggie’s eye, which she would never get back. That’s why she was able to get her wings back.
For me I was wondering why she didn't grow them back after they were ripped off and then the wings growing back gave me validation
@@CrownofMischiefTobey Maguire Spider man 2 crisi style?
That's a good point. Combine that with the angels being able to conceal their wings and it makes me wonder if her wings had already grown back and she just didn't realize it because of how down she's been and hiding who she was.
I can't believe you got Tomotasauce to see this with you. That's so cool. I hope you two do more collabs in the future. Anyway, Rosie is awesome, I didn't expect her to be like a cool aunt or to love her so much. Also, "Out For Love" is such a bop, and the end where Vaggie gets her wings makes me shout with joy every time.
I love his videos. I'm glad they got a chance to collaborate.
Fr like theyre a bot at this point ☻️@victorvladimirhuertariosv5881
Not so average fangirl
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Hi, I see you everywhere :)
I thought people were overreacting with the “I see you everywhere” stuff till I saw your pfp and recognized it from like 10 different channels 😭
I love that Rosie is good at talking to Charlie because she is basically a therapist to the entire cannibal town.
I love how Carmilla took her down after vaggie said she wasn't used to fighting with long hair.
16:38
Literally when she said “Mommy?” Had me WHEEZING
The way that Alastor is just kicking off his legs while lying in bed and moving his face closer to Charlie very slowly was so funny!!! LOL!!!!
"Adam doesn't have a chance againts Alastor"
I wish Elijah, I really wish
Turns out he's leader of the angel army for a reason, and it sure isn't his...stunning...personality.
Alastor isn't as powerful as they make him seem.
@@prestonandtom9337 i mean he's pretty dang powerful, but Adam would logically be on Lilith/Charlie's level just by virtue of who he is.
@@prestonandtom9337 He is probably the strongest sinner in hell but compared to high ranks like Lucifer, Lilith, the sins, seraphims, etc, he doesn't stand a chance
@@prestonandtom9337honestly he is.
In the final when Angels attack he creates a shield that not only stops angels but also hurts them when they impact with it.
Keep in mind angels are supposed to be unhurtable
Alastor's favor is going to be that Charlie breaks his contract to whomever owns him. It's why he keeps encouraging her, keeps guiding her. Whoever has him on a leash, he probably thinks Charlie isn't just the one with the power to free him, but the only one who'd want give him his freedom. That's my prediction.
I think he may or may not do something like that, but that he doesn't necessarily have concrete plans so much as waiting to see how things develop before playing his cards accordingly. That is, that favor could be any number of things, while still keeping himself in her good graces("Alastor could have asked for my soul, but he didn't. All he wanted was a harmless favor. Maybe he does care...", whereas if he asked for her soul he's instantly made enemies of everyone and crushed any goodwill he had). For example, he could always twist his own words. A "favor where she harms no one" could easily mean making it so she _can't_ fight him when he plays his hand.
“It’s giving Pearl vibes from Steven Universe” I was like FAAAAACTSS when I heard that lmao I love it so true
Elijah with Tomotasauce:😂😂😂😂😂
Elijah watching HH(hazbin hotel) alone:😢😢😢😢
24:04 I just want to mention how they became Rosie and Alastor in that moment, and their outfit colors even line up pretty well!
Vivzy confirmed that both Lucifer and Charlie have hooves bc they are satyrs
Really?
is that true omg??
Every time I learn something new about lulu, I fall deeper into my passion
yup and lilith has hooman legssss
i thought her reason for it was because of the whole satan image usually being depicted as part goat
"Words are cheap, but actions, they speak the truth."
I love Rosie so much. She would make a great therapist!!! :) :)
25:25 I love that moment
The fact that Elijah was having a gay panic over carmila carmine and panicking over v getting her wings back is hilarious 😂 she
Like Elijah, I too took a moment to "appreciate the art" of Carmilla in the training scenes.
Same
Tomota’s with you?!?! HELL YEAH!!!
To Tomotasauce: Love “Alastor Hates Birds” 😂😂
Nuthin'! What's Tomota with you? 😋
Everybody else: I love this song!
Elijah: *Carmommy Carmilf* I mean, me too!
26:10 The way Husk looks at Angel 😍😭
11:11 Rosie is literally aunt Mary Poppins if she was cannibal.
11:35 No wonder she is the leader of the Cannibal Colony, she acts more like a mom than a leader .
16:10 Charlie Morningstar curse at Susan is freaking unexpected and funny as hell.
22:07 Rosie is sweet enough to give good advice to Charlie.
Wouldn't be surprising she ate some brains to be that smart or just reads books like Alastor.
Honestly, I don’t think she has prepared for episode 8. It was definitely a roller coaster of emotions in that episode for me
True
Your spit-take when Alastor said "Who's joking?" 🤣Alastor jumpscare.
That made the scene even funnier!
I freaking knew Elijah was going to pause a lot during Carmilla's song XD
Especially when she let her hair down.
15:51 nah cause that was perfect-
Elijah: Susan
Charlie: Susan?
Rosie and Alastor: Susan.
17:22
“Mommy?”
Me: *laughs*
“WOAH, gotta get a call from Scotland soon”
Me: *dies*
😂😂😂
GURL SAME!!!!! When I saw Carmilla with her hair down I was like "HELLO MA'AM 😍😍😍😳😳😳" She SLAYS 💅🏾💅🏾💅🏾💅🏾
And I also love how everyone I've seen compares her song to Pearl's do it for her song 🤭🤭🤭
The absolute CHAOS that unleashed when Vaggie got her wings back was the highlight of this episode
Also you may need to invest in some magic healing potion for your throat for the next episode-
I like how you and Tomota has a very similar relationship to Rosie and Alastor its honestly so adorable
I can't stop laughing at 21:08 the way they reacted to it was just so funny who else agrees
HE STOPED SMILING at 3:11 HE STOPED FUCKING SMILING WHEN HE SAID AND I QUOTE "dooming everyone you love" HE STOPED SMILING!!!!!!! AND IT DID A CLOSE UP TO HIS FACE WHEN HE SAYS IT AND STOPS SMILING WHICH MEANS THEY WANTED US TO CATCH THAT SHIT WTF ( you have to slow it all the way to see him stop smiling)
Late but I always just thought it was the animation because it would probably be a bit hard to animate someone talking if they were smiling the whole time but thats a good point
Thank you, Tomota, for keeping Elijah from breaking her new chair! 🤣🤣🤣
21:58 Veggie was able to grow wings because Lute tore them out, not cut them off with angelic weapons.
Because angelic weapons only do it PERMANENTLY.
I’m most excited to see Elijah’s reaction to Vaggie getting her wings back
And I can't wait for her to see their duet with Charlie. It's the first scene that made me cry in this show
@@idontreallylikelongnames
Oh my god that scene is amazing😭
I didn’t do a cover of the reprise, but I did the Father Daughter duet on my channel. That song also made me cry. Specifically the line “I’ve missed that smile” when I first heard it. I just started sobbing because it was just the sweetest thing ever😅
OMG IKRR, i literally rewatched that scene so many times
@@yeoabzzz
And the song in that scene, Out For Love, is INSANELY AMAZING. I saved it to my watch later playlist. *It. Goes. So. Hard.* Honestly I have a good amount of songs now from HH and HB in that playlist. Well okay, mostly HH songs, but I did save Look My Way from Helluva Boss, because it is gorgeous❤️🔥
And also the confirmation of Alastor being "an ace in the hole".
"YOU JUST BOUGHT THE CHAIR!"😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂
When alister and rosie both say Susan, 15:55, his smile was the most frown like smile I've seen
Alastor's smile... He sees emotions as weakness, and smiling and being happy about everything is power to him. Negative emotions mean that person is weak and can break down. He's always smiling to make it seem like nothing gets to him and he has the upper hand at all times
I'm just confused why no one seems to notice that he looks genuinely infuriated and frustrated after Charlie says that she can't understand how he can just enjoy everyone's suffering.
Like, that dark flush in his face shows volumes.
He is peeved so much.
And yet, I have yet to see it mentioned by anybody.
It's not like it isn't evident! Even though his tone is genial and even-keeled during his discussion on the importance of a smile, his wording differs. It is literally a thinly-disguised, angry rant about how she has badly failed to see through his mask of a smile. Which would imply that he lied about being there for suffering, or no longer feels that way.
Even his body language changes. His physical contact with Charlie has been through dance, hugs, or making fatherly gestures (to piss or not piss off Lucifer, that is the question). But then, his body language became creepier, more aggressive. He grips her harder, forces her mouth into a smile, etc.
Nifty: so you don’t have wings, why
AngelDust: OMG Nifty you can’t just ask someone why they don’t have wings
21:25 I think I know how the other chair broke. 😅😂
"You just bought the chair!!"
16:46 , 18:05 & 20:57 Omg, I could tell you were so proud of yourself then lol! 😂❤
My guess is that Rosie sounds like she's from the Bronx because she's absolutely based on Dolly Levi from "Hello, Dolly!" and in the movie, Dolly was played by Barbara Streisand.
22:35 Rosie is like that wise, regal aunt who always knows exactly what to say to comfort and guide you. Possibly while wondering if your liver would pair well with a nice Chianti.