Dieting is Making You Fatter? - Body Fat Set Point Change Theory

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  • While energy balance seems simple, it is made up of many complicated components. After working with thousands of people in my life, I have seen how improper dieting actually leads to people putting on more body fat over time, even though they spend the majority of their life dieting. The fad/yoyo dieting consistently caused people to gain more body fat over the course of their life. Seeking answers, I dug deep into the research and found things that blew my mind, especially regarding adipose tissue adaptations to dieting and body fat setpoint. Specifically, that you could actually increase your number of fat cells in your body in a short period of time, given the right circumstances. in this video I discuss my theory on body fat setpoint and why dieting makes some people fatter.
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  • @yazctr
    @yazctr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    LAYNE DOES IT AGAIN!!! These series just get better and better!! So glad you're doing this one Layne!! Keep it coming!! Can i plz plz plz beg you to do one episode in relation to this and an obese person who loses weight.......i.e. a 330lb male/female going to 200lbs or so, who also builds some muscle mass, then what happens, would his leptin signals keep pushing for more food till he returns to 330lbs, like...are you going to be forever hungry battling to maintain 200lbs??

    • @donaldellis1460
      @donaldellis1460 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You just described me to the T! I was 320, went down to 209 and now I am back to 330.

    • @yazctr
      @yazctr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Donald Ellis this means u didnt develop good habits on the way down. I was 330 went down to 210, and now floating around 220-230, but i am going to be 180-190 even if it kills me!!

    • @robertacheson5976
      @robertacheson5976 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would definitely like to see this as well. Former football player who needed to weigh 50+ pound more out of necessity. My body just does NOT want to get below about 20% BF. A lot of former lineman who are eating right and on paper should have a negative energy balance that I played with have the same problem. I’ve gotten to 15% before but it was basically like I was in the final stages of a 6 month prep to get there.

    • @yazctr
      @yazctr 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      this sounds exactly like me, at a theoretically calculated 19-21% is where my body starts fighting me, cravings go mental, appetite just goes thru the roof. I literally start dreaming about food! its mad!! Really annoying tho, cozi still have a belly and virtually no visible muscle definition in my upperbody yet, I know around the 200lb mark (im 5ft 10) i should start to see some definition and then that should push me to go the whole hog for the last 10-15lbs.

    • @dinki728
      @dinki728 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, you reverse diet. Which means you're sloooowly increasing kcals without gaining too much fat back.

  • @kaizer-777
    @kaizer-777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I'm not fat, I'm just big-celled.

  • @Vagabund92
    @Vagabund92 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Nice, can't wait to hear about a way to reverse your setpoint.

  • @christinacoutupacudan1352
    @christinacoutupacudan1352 6 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    “If you’ve ever had an eating disorder it whacks out your brain...” Indeed it does and the effect persists for far longer than physiologically makes sense. Still struggling with this after having 2 children, gaining plenty of weight and “healing” my body.

    • @oliverwilson-hall4675
      @oliverwilson-hall4675 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Christina P I totally get this.

    • @skeptivorous5202
      @skeptivorous5202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Me too. My hunger never goes away no matter how much I eat. No matter how physically full my stomach feels from eating so much protein and fiber and volume and whatnot, my body still wants to eat, I still feel hunger.

    • @user-hl1lt8yr2o
      @user-hl1lt8yr2o 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skeptivorous5202 me too! its killing me, i dont think i can ever be slim again

  • @Narendra434
    @Narendra434 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Brother, you are seriously one of a kind! An eye-opener for every fitness query. This series is getting better and better...Love your Work!

  • @angelafeero
    @angelafeero 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I wish I would’ve had this info YEARS ago when I was messing with my body! Thank you for doing this series. I’m looking forward to it!

  • @lisabartolo7263
    @lisabartolo7263 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Really hit the nail on the head with this one layne.👍 Big fan of all your work and so greatful to have you share your knowledge so we can make the best progress not only for ourself, but spread awareness to our clients about these issues. Looking forward to hearing more on this topic 😊

  • @ohhweeeee
    @ohhweeeee 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This makes the most sense out of all the theories I’ve heard. I can’t wait for the rest of the info.

  • @ted3846
    @ted3846 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You know your stuff Dr. Norton. Can't wait for the series to start. Thanks for the great content.

  • @richardpartin9378
    @richardpartin9378 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Wow you just hit me in the feels. Yo-yo crew checking in lol

  • @NONcomD
    @NONcomD 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, layne! Looking forward to the series.

  • @LienahO
    @LienahO 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video Layne. Cant wait to see the rest of this series!

  • @ameliadalzell589
    @ameliadalzell589 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yassssss, Thank you Dr Bio Layne :) So looking forwards to the series.

  • @aevans148
    @aevans148 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I learnt this from you in an older video but this explains it really well! Thanks and keep up this great series

  • @snoo333
    @snoo333 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this video. i can't believe no one else talks about body fat set points. looking forward to your other videos.

  • @SnakeC666
    @SnakeC666 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is GOLD information, thank you so much Layne :)

  • @NeilNatic
    @NeilNatic 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an incredible video. This is great and I'm tuned in for the next series!!!

  • @dkpure
    @dkpure 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    watched you on youtube forever ago when you were talking about how you bulk for 3-4 weeks and cut for 1-2, looks like those principles are still put to use! glad u popped up in my feed

  • @onefittortoise
    @onefittortoise 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am so EXCITED to learn more about this. So fascinating and HELPFUL! I didn't know that I could love science. Enter.....Layne Norton hahah. Seriously I am sitting at my computer working through your fat loss series advice and turning it into a meal plan. THANK YOU for having the heart of a teacher and for not letting people shut you up :) I am so grateful.

  • @CassDiGiovanni
    @CassDiGiovanni 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Favorite video! Seriously this is such amazing information for all binge eaters and those who over eat post contest. Happened to me three years ago badly and it’s awesome to see the science behind it.

    • @Dragon-Slay3r
      @Dragon-Slay3r ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks commentor is that karun or arjun?

  • @andya5597
    @andya5597 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Layne, always had this problem after getting lean. Look forward to the upcoming vids

  • @Eddynator
    @Eddynator 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you layne. Cant wait for the next videos. love your content. greetings from Germany ✌

  • @msms7434
    @msms7434 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting. It fits my experience perfectly. Subscribed and eager to hear more.

  • @mikes6740
    @mikes6740 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great explanation - it also shows why reverse diet is so important after a period of dieting

  • @Egavas0
    @Egavas0 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Goddamn I need this series, I'm definitely going to stay tuned. Cutting for the first time in my life for a show for too long I think jacked up this whole system for me.

  • @ameliasheree217
    @ameliasheree217 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow amazing !! Can't wait for the video coming up

  • @alkemyfitchef8870
    @alkemyfitchef8870 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you one of the best research explained videos I have seen very interesting!

  • @areya2005
    @areya2005 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bravo!!! Looking forward to the series.
    Maybe it’s coming up in a future video, but is there a way to change the set-point down?

  • @perrysmith1318
    @perrysmith1318 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is why we all need to be here. Great job Layne!

  • @Mindsetsandreps
    @Mindsetsandreps 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video, looking forward to the new series

  • @omarmacias8709
    @omarmacias8709 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Holy shit. Your videos are now like a series you just get hooked on. Now I can’t wait for the next episode.
    Great video, interesting info, important topic. Full groupie again, but thanks!

  • @lennonptpaul
    @lennonptpaul 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good video. Have always been interested in your work, and spoke about this concept to many...Good to have this as reference.

  • @doubletheloveteam4748
    @doubletheloveteam4748 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really excited about this series!

  • @TheRavenMaiden
    @TheRavenMaiden 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Informative and enlightening! Looking forward to Part 2 🤓

  • @smarttrainingnutrition1046
    @smarttrainingnutrition1046 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Looking forward to the series and hopefully one day maintaing a lean body comp 🤞

  • @natleigh04
    @natleigh04 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I CAN'T WAIT for the rest of this series!!! Sharing this with my personal training clients. You're still my #1 go-to guy for all things nutrition- my clients hear about you ad nauseam lol Thank you 💙

  • @arnoldstrong7059
    @arnoldstrong7059 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is golden info, thanks Layne

  • @claudiahall3138
    @claudiahall3138 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is gonna be so good! Can't wait to learn!!!!

  • @jasoncharlton3775
    @jasoncharlton3775 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is why controlled reverse diets are key after a long diet phase, right? Great video, looking forward to the series.

  • @awlach8
    @awlach8 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best videos so far. fantastic content!

  • @claudiadixon5856
    @claudiadixon5856 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As always excellent informational video!

  • @Calaman345
    @Calaman345 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait for this series.... I hope he has evidence on HOW TO reset the set point from a multitude of angles/modalities

  •  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ohhh my God! You are so Great! Thank You! I can't wait for the next video.

  • @mre9659
    @mre9659 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video Layne! This has really made me rethink a few things, looking forward to your nee series

  • @amandaleary1625
    @amandaleary1625 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excited for this series, besides your ebook do you have any recommendations on any other books to read up on this subject?

  • @ThomasAT86
    @ThomasAT86 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fascinating, thanks for sharing!

  • @paulasharpe5966
    @paulasharpe5966 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video thanks layne

  • @1queenruler
    @1queenruler 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent excellent video Layne!!

  • @HarryAshtonCoaching
    @HarryAshtonCoaching 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Saw a Thomas DeLauer ad before this. Never clicked the skip ad button so fast

  • @joeygast6657
    @joeygast6657 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Man this video was awesome. I know you said this was done in rats, but if this mechanism exists in humans it would be HUGE in regards to explaining why so many people have trouble keeping weight off and actually gaining MORE weight back afterwards.

  • @shanewink3258
    @shanewink3258 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good on you dude. Courage is not being fearless but rather moving forward in spite of your fears. While I did not revell in you losing your marriage I can appreciate the video for what it truely says about you. Keep running that race!

  • @Gma07
    @Gma07 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG! This is a great video but I think I'm doomed! My current set point is terrible and wow... It seems like nothing I do corrects it. I'm going to find more of your videos now.

  • @jonathanherston4245
    @jonathanherston4245 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What happened to the other videos in this series? Would love to see them!

  • @jasons9087
    @jasons9087 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo man! Where is the rest of this series? If it’s all in your ebook can you confirm that? You have me hooked now! It’s been 9 months so I don’t think another one is coming

  • @Weak1987
    @Weak1987 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Waiting forward on the serie!

  • @captH3ADSHOT
    @captH3ADSHOT 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks layne. great video :)

  • @THChemiteX
    @THChemiteX 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can not wait for a new video!!

  • @ensssy1
    @ensssy1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    So,, when's the next part of this series coming out?

  • @newstart6107
    @newstart6107 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video - I admit I zoned out a little 🤣
    But through experience of yo yo dieting I am living proof along with millions of others that this is true.
    I cant wait to hear how to change it!
    If it's a case of battling hunger every day for the rest of my life - then I'll cry!

  • @sergeyzelvenskiy5126
    @sergeyzelvenskiy5126 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where is the next video? I need to figure out what to do about all of this.

  • @jabara83
    @jabara83 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm really really looking forward to the part 2 of this video; How to lower the body fat set point

  • @roygoldenson7075
    @roygoldenson7075 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This is the one and - ONLY - source of information in a niche plagued with an endless amount of charlatans produced on corporate assembly lines packed to the brim with hype, fad, miss-information & aggressive marketing BS.
    Thank you sir for your invaluable contribution. keep'em coming!

  • @cocohoneytahiti
    @cocohoneytahiti 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is gold thanks for that . I would love to know your thought about the effect of a slow and controlled reverse diet after a cut on the body fat set point. Does it maintain the initial set point or does it lower it??

  • @ThrivingAfterThirty
    @ThrivingAfterThirty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I can’t find the video series that you mentioned that will talk about how to prevent a set point increase and what to do if yours already is increased.

    • @leovanderlinden9758
      @leovanderlinden9758 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      th-cam.com/video/_uok8Itwles/w-d-xo.html I think this might be it

  • @chewher4171
    @chewher4171 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So the body adapts and plans for the next time you are “starving” to be better equipped to keep you from dying. That’s mind blowing! From a scientific standpoint. But also disappointed as to why we can’t lose weight. But knowing this now I can also plan for my body’s adaptation. If I asked Greg, he’d just tell me to buy his cookbook.

  • @Bloodsweatsawdust
    @Bloodsweatsawdust 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This takes me back to the old Mind and Muscle / Avantlabs days.

  • @katherinecoburn4117
    @katherinecoburn4117 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Layne, could you post the DOI for the journal article? I'd be really interested in reading it.

  • @novoxcage
    @novoxcage 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can I find the research paper on PubMed? I'd like to use it for an assignment (senior Nutritional Sciences major @UF)

  • @azulsimmons1040
    @azulsimmons1040 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting discussion.

  • @oa7415
    @oa7415 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So how do we reset our body weight set point? Is there a video that explains this?

  • @VeeAre6
    @VeeAre6 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    what are your thoughts on being in a 200-300 cal daily deficit and then doing one fairly giant cheat meals a week. would that sort of recalibrate the metabolic rate and the leptin levels? I feel perfectly comfortable in a 200-300 cal daily deficit knowing I have a tasty meal waiting for me. from my personal and current anecdotal evidence I've noticed that I don't have to keep dropping calories and my body still feels comfortable and maintains a level of body fat that I would consider to be below my set point. what are your thoughts?

  • @fubleach2
    @fubleach2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can’t find the video about bringing back the set point. Can someone please share? I have watched so many videos but cant find it.

  • @benyaminasgari7503
    @benyaminasgari7503 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video . Thanks

  • @Altuz
    @Altuz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @biolayne, I've been searching for the follow up video regarding what to do if you've obtained new fat cells and what to do but I cannot find it. Do you mind posting the link here?

  • @mikehirst
    @mikehirst 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So a solution may be to end your cut with a controlled, extended period at new maintenance before slowly increasing calories over time to create a surplus, right?

  • @lauralongo7152
    @lauralongo7152 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the info. Where can I find the series?

  • @lovelife4585
    @lovelife4585 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’d love to read this study. Can you please cite it??!!

  • @MrPetrello
    @MrPetrello 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Layne I’ve taken my body fat down to 8% from 20 and my weight has gone from 156 to 144. My pulse has dropped also. Could the beta blocker I’m taking be more influential in this ??

  • @mustifaguspis4596
    @mustifaguspis4596 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you make a video on how to prevent body fat cell and setpoint increase when dropping bodyfat?? I'm scared now as i heard that body fat cells never decrease after they increase

  • @wealth1ness
    @wealth1ness 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, I'm really looking forward to this series! I'm scared to eat a big meal right now until I hear more. A couple questions I hope you can address:
    How long was the open feeding period where the number of fat cells increased? Are we talking a meal or two or several days of straight binge eating to before this effect is triggered?
    Are certain types of intermittent fasting schedules at risk of this? Squeezing your calories into certain sized windows sounds in theory like a "short term flux of energy across the fat cell".

  • @knen02
    @knen02 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where was the follow up video for this, please?!

  • @alvinkan3940
    @alvinkan3940 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Layne what happens when people lose a bunch of of fat cell through either liposuction or cryolipolis ... has you set point been readjusted and kick in when fewer cells get to the same cell size?

  • @nataliaramirez1290
    @nataliaramirez1290 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video. Where's the follow up video?

  • @justaninja1
    @justaninja1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, that was a crazy study. So the set point is on the size. So how do you decrease the number of fat cells? And is there a way to lower the set point of their volume as well?

  • @kuonaku
    @kuonaku 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone knows if the series continued? I was wondering :)

  • @brendennestor6166
    @brendennestor6166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So if you keep dieting and rebound and your predispositioned to be thin, will you eventually be obese? Since everytime you diet and rebound, your going to be at a higher set point?

  • @olympic-gradelurker
    @olympic-gradelurker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm curious to see what the dramatic reduction of adipocytes through liposuction or cryolipolysks does to your hunger hormone levels.

  • @ericrodefeld2482
    @ericrodefeld2482 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn that shit is scary. Definitely going to be tuning in for more info. I bulk and cut every year in about a 15-20 pound range. I wonder if this is considered yo-yo dieting.

  • @snowmanbanjo
    @snowmanbanjo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr. Norton, when you say that the change in fat cell number was not significant, are you saying that the difference is not that big of a change or that the difference wasn't statistically significant (confidence interval and all that jazz)?

  • @TheSkino75
    @TheSkino75 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thanks for the video, very informative. So you can elevate your body fat set point but can you lower it ? And if possible how ?

    • @jonede869
      @jonede869 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TheSkino75 I’m also interested in this question

    • @alvarocoronel67
      @alvarocoronel67 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also interested. How does one lower the fat set point?

    • @JNR22B
      @JNR22B 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      As a guy that has been obese in the past I to would like to know this

    • @kawaiigirl5548
      @kawaiigirl5548 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Water fast

    • @weilandcock
      @weilandcock 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      From what I've found, set point goes up and rarely comes back down.

  • @sanumpatel2342
    @sanumpatel2342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Which video is supposed to be the next in this series? I'm not entirely sure

  • @edge3220
    @edge3220 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you done the videos on how to prevent or fix the set point? This is the only video in the playlist. Or is it covered in the "Why Diets Fail" series?

  • @Jake-bj1sj
    @Jake-bj1sj 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there any studies or info out there about the effects being below the set point has on muscle gain?

  • @taylorgunn161
    @taylorgunn161 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there anyway then to return back to your original set point ?

  • @TheDanishDuke
    @TheDanishDuke 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now that's some eoic shit right there ! Awesome series!! 👌😃

  • @Darkchylde50
    @Darkchylde50 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hats off meng, hats off! 😎🎩

  • @jeffreycastillo170
    @jeffreycastillo170 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone where Layne discusses what to do if the increase in fat cells has happened to you? I've been looking and can't find it.

  • @StratiuZ
    @StratiuZ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So how would a very underweight anorexic recover back up to the body's healthy set-point with limiting the increase of additional fat cells at the body's comfort zone. What would the steps needed to be taken if a person was 30 pounds underweight, maintaining on 1100 calories, and looking to recover need to do to minimize the additional fat cells in recovery? btw, this video was fantastic and you explained it very well. thank you

  • @andykg73
    @andykg73 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what about if you kill some fat cells by cool sculpting or lipo? less fat cells lower the body fat set point?

  • @chairific6794
    @chairific6794 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know how you can find out your set point or the size of your fat cells?