I could say that this is the most beautiful, the most lovely of Bruckner's symphonies, the most "Schubertian." The ninth one is the most sublime; the eighth, the most overwhelming; the seventh, the most moving. I have nothing so short and simple to say about the others yet… Bravo, Bruckner; bravo, Celibidache, and bravo, MPO. Thank you for sharing this video, keep up the good work, and best greetings from Spain.
¿Desde España y, teniendo la mejor lengua, una materna más hablada que el inglés, escribes en la lengua del Enemigo tradicional de Alemania y el Reino de las Españas?
For me, Bruckner is the greatest of all composers who have come after Beethoven. So grateful that I found his music , because I don't have any music background or any teacher or a friend to show me the way. I found him by accident. Now I am so happy with a life that his music is a part of.
I have heard Bruckner's 5th Symphony performed many times and have more than 40 CDs of it. Maestro Celibidache's live recording of his performance of this piece at Tokyo Suntry Hall in 1986 is truly a performance that surpassed human achievement. In other words, It was a "divine performance". Of course, the Munich live performance in this video is also very very good.
You really ,I mean Really know what you are taking about! And why not? You also have the extensive experience to back it up. i look forward to your future observations.
Un compositor enorme, un director y una orquesta haciendo arte a gran altura. Bruckner y Celinbidache. Gracias a todos ellos y al editor de este sitio.
Perhaps I love each of his notes too much and Master Celibidache did it always transparently readable as you follow the composer's thoughts during the reading of the score. Perhaps I have stepped in such a mood during my years and life turbulences...the each Celi's Bruckner is a remedy on the open wound, fantastic!
The perfection and splendor of this performance of No. ５conducted by Sergiu Celibidache is beyond description and unfathomable Immeasurable just intoxicated by the overwhelming power , majesty and warmth that surrounds my heart of this No. ５ From Tokyo of the Land of the Rising Sun 🇯🇵
The finest ever Bruckner conductor. His tempi are perfect and you can actually here individual instrumental lines that are smothered out by the full orchestra in other performances. Extensive rehearsals pay off.
that makes some sense. Bruckner didn't catch on for me with other conductors, some of them fine Brucknarians. It was Celi's approach which helped me hear the music in a way I wasn't hearing it before. I now prefer the interpretations of a few other conductors a bit more, Wand to name one, but Celi's Bruckner will always be, for me, timeless!
The only conductor who understood the right tempi in Bruckners works. Also Celibidache had a very very good ear and we was thinking a long time about an interpretation, before a Bruckner Symphony started. Once he said, nobody had such a feeling about polyphonic and harmonic structures like Bruckner, except Mozart and Bach. Celibidache, MPO and Bruckner are absolute awesome.
At the helm of a superbly disciplined Munich Philharmonic, Celibidache seems to abolish the notion of time, stretching melodies like caresses, completely forgetting himself to let the music occupy the field alone. The nobility and the gigantic breath imparted to this music from another world by Celibidache create an intense and unforgettable emotion. Like an open door to eternity. Was Bruckner made for Celibidache or the other way around?
So wonderfully put. Celibidache's tempii are in my humble opinion just perfect. His extensive rehearsal times result in performances that allow the listener to hear every single instrumental line without being drowned by the full orchestra. No other conductor can compete with him when it comes to Bruckner.
A symphony river.. A fair and epic interpretation. An orchestra that sounds wonderfully All graciously and effectively interpreted by a renowned and probably proftively human chef
I agree but try out the 4th symphony with the Frankfurt Radio Orchestra conducted by Inbal. One of the finest performances of a Btuckner symphony you will ever hear, with a terrifc orchestra and wonderful recording quality. The first horn is magnificent throughout. all on TH-cam. Enjoy.
At 47:04, I guess that's a cough. Whoever let it escape, waited until the last pizzicato of the Adagio, before letting go. Then two minutes of coughing and retuning. Glories of live performance.
Celibidache, the man who stops the clocks and makes fun of the metronome. He directs, like someone who is bullfighting with his cape, the set of the veronica again and again, with incredible slowness. He was also a gypsy, like some of the most extraordinary creators of cape bullfighting.
He wasn't connected by schooling like Mahler and the rest .In person he was rather a countryfolk.His learning wasn't enough to endear him to Viennese or anyone else. Mahler as a Jew was much better at getting important posts and working thru the hoops . And in 2022 few people wanna listen to a 90minute symphony. 3rdand 4th Symphonies have gorgeous melodies and lighter textures . Starting with No.5 Bruckner gets closer to the 20th century but he's still oldfashioned.Mahler was more to the now and anxiety and cruelty of 20th century. I prefer Messiaen & Boulez Roger Sessions.Even the Vaughan-Williams symphonies are less taxing with their unfolding melodies but the English are afraid of harshness and the truth.Ustvolskaya kicks their butts each and every time! I aint got time for Romantic era .
El tema del primer movimiento es el mítico "somos tricampeones" o "lolololololooolooo", me extraña que no lo haya dicho nadie aún en los comentarios, minuto 21:45
The Bruckner 5th is a particularly fragile piece of work..It took a conductor of the calibre of Celibidache to hold this symphony together. Maybe, just maybe, the MPO under the baton of Celi was the best in the world.
Bruckner senfonileri bana hep ıssızlıkta bulunan mucizeleri hissettirir. İnsandan uzak ama insanın hep muhtaç olduğu yerler. 5. Senfonisi bu durumu en çok hissettiren eseri olmalı. Türkiye de yaşamış olsaydı mezarı Türbe yapılıp adaklar adanırdı.
A part from my admiration for this Orchestra, Celibidache conducts without a score. It is hard to understand the work of his brain to hold all this complicated piece going faultlessly. We did loose an extraordinary brilliant conductor.
Just one complaint...and it's nothing to do with the magnificent performance. What has the camera director got against the horn section? Especially in the final glorious pages of this score the horns play a pivotal role as much as the other brass, but there's not one single shot of the horn section. Very bad direction.
He's rumored to have been a poorly and patch and stitch dressed country fellow but O how solemn a symphony composer was he. The suspense unwinds typically slow... defining a distinct elgaic cadence
Nen herzlichen Gruß an Sonja R, die mir Don Celibidache empfohlen hat, zu u.auf "Liebreiz! bei Carsten Pötter hier: th-cam.com/video/bIMGfCqGabw/w-d-xo.html&lc=Ugz0z5O1qsXchi3Aua94AaABAg.9TRqNQ0xsFA9ZEzm5UszYB Danke danke danke liebster Andrej Popescu !
@@tobiaspeter6555 I'm no feminist and not very political either. It just looks unusual even unnatural to see an all male orchestra anymore. almost has a gay look to it.
@@tobiaspeter6555 you mean like the SF gay men's chorus? it's ok but an orchestra imo represents the culture and just as many women are now graduating from top music schools across the country, if not more then men. the best orchestras should reflect that imo.
I thought I knew this work well. When you hear a different performance of a work, it is like hearing the work for the first time.
I. 1:32 Adagio - Allegro
II. 24:23 Adagio, Sehr Langsam
III. 48:18 Scherzo, molto vivace
IV. 1:03:20 Finale, Adagio
A seven nation army couldn't hold me back from enjoying this.
Bro, i'm here after listening to seven national army.... I couldn't agree more.❤
@@annkirilchukWhat army?
I could say that this is the most beautiful, the most lovely of Bruckner's symphonies, the most "Schubertian." The ninth one is the most sublime; the eighth, the most overwhelming; the seventh, the most moving. I have nothing so short and simple to say about the others yet… Bravo, Bruckner; bravo, Celibidache, and bravo, MPO. Thank you for sharing this video, keep up the good work, and best greetings from Spain.
the best Bruckner imo is the Adagio or second movement of the 5th symphony. could be the most beautiful divinely inspired ever written by anybody.
¿Desde España y, teniendo la mejor lengua, una materna más hablada que el inglés, escribes en la lengua del Enemigo tradicional de Alemania y el Reino de las Españas?
4, 5, and 9 are my favorites, personally
For me, Bruckner is the greatest of all composers who have come after Beethoven. So grateful that I found his music , because I don't have any music background or any teacher or a friend to show me the way. I found him by accident. Now I am so happy with a life that his music is a part of.
@@siamakanbarani4977 it's great that you found Bruckner on your own. Hope many others might have that experience too!
Once you have heard Celibidache´s Bruckner you´re spoilt for anyone else.
its funny because its true
Absolutely! Add Celibedache and The Munich
'City Slickers' and you achieve incomparable excellence!
I have heard Bruckner's 5th Symphony performed many times and have more than 40 CDs of it.
Maestro Celibidache's live recording of his performance of this piece at Tokyo Suntry Hall in 1986 is truly a performance that surpassed human achievement.
In other words, It was a "divine performance".
Of course, the Munich live performance in this video is also very very good.
You really ,I mean Really know what you are taking about! And why not? You also have the extensive experience to back it up. i look forward to your future observations.
Bruckner will sublimate the solemnity in the realm of God into Symphony No. 5
From Tokyo of the Land of the Rising Sun 🇯🇵
I can't believe I listened to the whole thing.
Un compositor enorme, un director y una orquesta haciendo arte a gran altura. Bruckner y Celinbidache.
Gracias a todos ellos y al editor de este sitio.
Perhaps I love each of his notes too much and Master Celibidache did it always transparently readable as you follow the composer's thoughts during the reading of the score. Perhaps I have stepped in such a mood during my years and life turbulences...the each Celi's Bruckner is a remedy on the open wound, fantastic!
There is only one Bruckner.
There is only one Celibidache.
Nothing else matters.
Metallica \../
But that's Metallica...
Gunter Wand. Perhaps the finest Bruckner conductor. Certainly an early champion!
@@cwillpiko1994 Agree completely. Wand, Jochum, and Skrowaczewski were my introduction to Bruckner.
und natürlich Otto Klemperer
The perfection and splendor of this performance of No. ５conducted by Sergiu Celibidache is beyond description and unfathomable
Immeasurable just intoxicated by the overwhelming power , majesty and warmth that surrounds my heart
of this No. ５
From
Tokyo of the Land of the Rising Sun 🇯🇵
21:30 seven nation army be like
Came here just for this >_< thanks
Thanks, this helped a fuck lot
same
seven nation army 🐰❤️
seven nation army super :)
The finest ever Bruckner conductor. His tempi are perfect and you can actually here individual instrumental lines that are smothered out by the full orchestra in other performances. Extensive rehearsals pay off.
that makes some sense. Bruckner didn't catch on for me with other conductors, some of them fine Brucknarians. It was Celi's approach which helped me hear the music in a way I wasn't hearing it before. I now prefer the interpretations of a few other conductors a bit more, Wand to name one, but Celi's Bruckner will always be, for me, timeless!
His tempi are perfect with his phrasing. Other conductors wouldn’t be able to hold these tempi without the music disintegrating.
The only conductor who understood the right tempi in Bruckners works. Also Celibidache had a very very good ear and we was thinking a long time about an interpretation, before a Bruckner Symphony started.
Once he said, nobody had such a feeling about polyphonic and harmonic structures like Bruckner, except Mozart and Bach.
Celibidache, MPO and Bruckner are absolute awesome.
This is where Jack White got the riff for "Seven Nation Army."
What part?
@@joshdee4427 4:38
21:30 among others.
What a performance! 😀
Brilliant! What an incredible symphony!
Maestro Celibidache was born to conduct Bruckner
gonna listen to this piece today in Köln ^^
좋은 영상 올려주셔서 고맙습니다.
Thank you~()
That camera-zoom-out beginning at 27:31 suits the music perfectly! Nice idea!
1:27:15
Someone just can't resist singing
I thought I was the only one noticing! Is that normal? I have never seen it before in a live performance o.O
Interrupting Bruckner's simphony with ads??...it is a crime!
It's TH-cam. Use Adblock Plus or uBlock origin.
Munic, Türkenstrasse Programm Cinema brings Celli to the people…
Buddha bless
WK
Best conductor of all times, still underrecognized composer
Quite agree . You hardly ever hear live performances of the 2nd or 3rd symphonies for example and they are both gems!
@@BritinIsrael he might be talking about celibidache as a composer.
Totally agree!!
@@1celibidache224 i think so
"Best conductor of all times" give me a break ingnorant, there is nothing like "the best "
and Bruckner is a Good second rate composer.
At the helm of a superbly disciplined Munich Philharmonic, Celibidache seems to abolish the notion of time, stretching melodies like caresses, completely forgetting himself to let the music occupy the field alone. The nobility and the gigantic breath imparted to this music from another world by Celibidache create an intense and unforgettable emotion. Like an open door to eternity. Was Bruckner made for Celibidache or the other way around?
So wonderfully put. Celibidache's tempii are in my humble opinion just perfect. His extensive rehearsal times result in performances that allow the listener to hear every single instrumental line without being drowned by the full orchestra. No other conductor can compete with him when it comes to Bruckner.
Qué versión racional y emocionalmente impecable. Un estudioso de la obra al detalle. Todas sus versiones son llenas de pasión
i concur
Excellent description ! 🙏🤗
To answer your question directly Pierre, Celibidache was made for Bruckner.
A symphony river.. A fair and epic interpretation. An orchestra that sounds wonderfully All graciously and effectively interpreted by a renowned and probably proftively human chef
Such power.
A symphony not for the faint of heart.
More for the pure of heart!
lmao
I haven't been a fan recently. Nowadays I can't listen to nobody's Bruckner except Celi's.
Please listen to Gunter Wand with Berlin orchestra in 1991. Nice also.
Sinopoli's Bruckner is also nice I think.
I agree but try out the 4th symphony with the Frankfurt Radio Orchestra conducted by Inbal. One of the finest performances of a Btuckner symphony you will ever hear, with a terrifc orchestra and wonderful recording quality. The first horn is magnificent throughout. all on TH-cam. Enjoy.
I agree completely. While some say Celibidache’s tempi are too slow, I think that others are too fast. Who really wants this to ever end?
@@christophebouttemy3238 no
Fascination of No5 is can not be overstated
1:22 Wie streng und maßregelnd der Celi die Husterer im Publikum gleich mal direkt mit seinem Blick zum Schweigen bringt. Super :)
Jack White's favorite symphony!!
seven nation army 🐰❤️
Groan
Wow what a find ❤❤
1:18:15 "Knock it off!" Superb concentration.
The Master at work.
27:30 I get those goosebumps every time!
u come around
O-o-o-o ! STUPENDO
At 47:04, I guess that's a cough. Whoever let it escape, waited until the last pizzicato of the Adagio, before letting go. Then two minutes of coughing and retuning. Glories of live performance.
Yeah quite- very annoying...
Bruckner symphonies feel and sound more like tone poems.
if they are they go way beyond Franz Lisz. they are symphonies however. the unity the unfoldnent... especially the fifth.
Melodías amplias fuerte y suaves propias del maestro Bruckner muy bien
i think, it was the opening of the Philharmonie am Gasteig Okt. 1985 in Munich.
One of the top references of this work
Celibidache, the man who stops the clocks and makes fun of the metronome. He directs, like someone who is bullfighting with his cape, the set of the veronica again and again, with incredible slowness. He was also a gypsy, like some of the most extraordinary creators of cape bullfighting.
Bruckner was a genius.Why could he be so underestimated in lifetime?Unbelievable.
He wasn't connected by schooling like Mahler and the rest .In person he was rather a countryfolk.His learning wasn't enough to endear him to Viennese or anyone else. Mahler as a Jew was much better at getting important posts and working thru the hoops . And in 2022 few people wanna listen to a 90minute symphony. 3rdand 4th Symphonies have gorgeous melodies and lighter textures . Starting with No.5 Bruckner gets closer to the 20th century but he's still oldfashioned.Mahler was more to the now and anxiety and cruelty of 20th century. I prefer Messiaen & Boulez Roger Sessions.Even the Vaughan-Williams symphonies are less taxing with their unfolding melodies but the English are afraid of harshness and the truth.Ustvolskaya kicks their butts each and every time! I aint got time for Romantic era .
El tema del primer movimiento es el mítico "somos tricampeones" o "lolololololooolooo", me extraña que no lo haya dicho nadie aún en los comentarios, minuto 21:45
5:24 they're playing Seven Nation Army 😂
30:05 chills...
So ist es🎻🎻🎻🎼🎼🎼
41:28 magnifique !
21:30 just leaving this here for myself
1:15:35 the fugues becomes a lot more interesting !
The camera seem to not like french horns because the brass section seem to only consists of trumpets, trmobonbes and tuba.
Celibidache....imens.
Felicitări pentru upload!
Cred că e cea mai bună interpretare, peste Bernstein sau Karajan.
Celibidache und Bruckner - zwei Vollender. Wenn es einen Seitenblick in das Paradies gibt, dann bei diesen.
Six flutes!
Master Celibidache!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
still a Master
geliebter Meister.....
The Bruckner 5th is a particularly fragile piece of work..It took a conductor of the calibre of Celibidache to hold this symphony together. Maybe, just maybe, the
MPO under the baton of Celi was the best in the world.
One of the most complex symphonies ever created.
"Fragile" is a very good description, only a few conductors managed to navigate the last movement, e.g. Jochum, Furtwangler...
Celibidache was otherworldly here.
Bruckner senfonileri bana hep ıssızlıkta bulunan mucizeleri hissettirir. İnsandan uzak ama insanın hep muhtaç olduğu yerler. 5. Senfonisi bu durumu en çok hissettiren eseri olmalı. Türkiye de yaşamış olsaydı mezarı Türbe yapılıp adaklar adanırdı.
Per fect : D
A part from my admiration for this Orchestra, Celibidache conducts without a score. It is hard to understand the work of his brain to hold all this complicated piece going faultlessly. We did loose an extraordinary brilliant conductor.
Just one complaint...and it's nothing to do with the magnificent performance. What has the camera director got against the horn section? Especially in the final glorious pages of this score the horns play a pivotal role as much as the other brass, but there's not one single shot of the horn section. Very bad direction.
13:13の所はブルックナーらしい宇宙を感じさせる好きな部分ですがチェリビダッケさんがとても細かく(特にバイオリンに)指示しているなと表情から感じます。
bravo!
30:05 🔥🔥🔥
warmth
warmth
1:23:42 FANTÁSTICO!!! ESPETACULAR!!! BRAVO!!!! 👏👏👏👏
He's rumored to have been a poorly and patch and stitch dressed country fellow but O how solemn a symphony composer was he. The suspense unwinds typically slow... defining a distinct elgaic cadence
Excellence in a cultural wasteland
Grandisimo codaa
One of the most powerful and the grandest of all the codas I ever heard! Super powerful.
ブルックナーは僕の魂です😢
GREAT
An excellent interpretation that matches head-to-head with that of Otto Klemperer.❤
Hes using a pretty colossal orchestra there. Scored for twin woodwind, not 130 ...
True, and yet at certain passages it is still drowned by the blaring brass instruments
❤
Great performance, but absolutely ruined by having an advert that cuts in after the first few minutes of the 1st movement.
He never heard this symphony 😢
I can't imagine how would be to hear this finale in a theatre
Seven Nation Army 21:25
Damn; you are right:0)
Peace and Much Groove.
True
I came looking for this comment
01:03:50
50:30 celibidache screaming always
Ein Tyrann ---- aber ein genialer !!
Wer genau? Bruckner ein Tyrann?
@@malte996 Nein, Celibidache
So ein scheiss. Bruckner war ein einsamer Mensch
Unusual to conduct without a score - especially for a work lasting 1+ hours!
Is that Rainer Kussmaul as concert master?
The best and is miss .
5:30 Whitestripes, 7 nation army.
1:11:45
Nen herzlichen Gruß an Sonja R, die mir Don Celibidache empfohlen hat, zu u.auf "Liebreiz! bei Carsten Pötter hier: th-cam.com/video/bIMGfCqGabw/w-d-xo.html&lc=Ugz0z5O1qsXchi3Aua94AaABAg.9TRqNQ0xsFA9ZEzm5UszYB
Danke danke danke liebster Andrej Popescu !
. .
Beguining at 1:27
27:33
15:26 Six flute players??? And other extra woodwinds i see everywhere. I thought (?) the score specified pairs of winds ...?
most conductors can't conduct that slow… it gets messy . he is the only one whi can!
The coda (the end bit) was played at Hitler's 50th Birthday parade.
Both were Austrian and whatever else the Nazis may have been they had great taste in music
Is the tympanist Stefan Gagelmann?
Yes, following the wonderful Peter Sadlo.
Who is the young Timpanist ?
I am not 100 % sure, but it should be Stefan Gagelmann. Still playing in the orchestra!
Beautiful sound quality but in emotion and pacing the opposite of spontaneous.
1:27:20 Do you hear him singing too?
mco, Yes. He always does.
@@maria-nh8qo usually he yells.
@@SUPER80s Yes, you are right. That's more accurate.
Furtwangler is done in 70 minutes. Did he make cuts. Celibedache was so jealous of Karajan for obvious reasons .
Not likely.
Quite the opposite (if you know whay I mean 😅)
few women in the orchestra.. equals an old recording. still, One of the best performances of this symphony, especially the 2nd movement.
What do women in the orchestra have to do with quality? The best orchestras in the world were and are (nearly) male only orchestras.
@@tobiaspeter6555 I'm no feminist and not very political either. It just looks unusual even unnatural to see an all male orchestra anymore. almost has a gay look to it.
@@larryprimeau5885 And even if so, what's wrong about a gay look?
@@tobiaspeter6555 you mean like the SF gay men's chorus?
it's ok but an orchestra imo represents the culture and just as many women are now graduating from top music schools across the country, if not more then men. the best orchestras should reflect that imo.
@@larryprimeau5885 They do