The Science of a Sports Comeback
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- The Science of a Sports Comeback
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Between now and September, to celebrate the return of sport, The Athletic are counting down the forty greatest comebacks in history.
But why do they happen? What is the sporting science that allows them to take place? We re-examine Liverpool’s Champions League win in 2005 to find out.
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#Liverpool #miracleofistanbul #acmilan
During a comeback, mentality is the most important thing.Adrenaline can do crazy things
2005: 54th minute - Gerrard
56th minute - Smicer
2019: 54th minute -Wijnaldum
56th minute - Wijnaldum
Great recall!
Next video:
*The Science of Bottling a huge Lead ft barcelona*
Ouch
Co-written by Spurs
They just don't need to play in camp nou that's the science.
@hErO HuNTER GAROU huge enough for barca to get fucked Multiple times.
hErO HuNTER GAROU I’m sorry... What?
Jaap Stam had an interview in the Netherlands recently, where he talked about this match too.
He said that basically, after that first goal, the hole defence was just in complete chaos, and they simply didn’t manage to reset themselves well until it was too late (I think this chaos in defence was also seen with Atalanta against psg).
He also denied the story you sometimes hear on the internet, that the Liverpool players heard the Milan players celebrating as if they had won already. According to Stam, Ancelotti actually was very critical of the team’s performance, and everyone was silently listening to him (or watching his eyebrow maybe).
To be fair the smicer goal there are nothing milan can do about it, a long shot.
3rd goal. Gerrard dive for penalty.
So their fault is they dont score any after the 2nd half
3:17 -Bayern had a really positive emotional response against Barcelona. They are leading 4:1, and after 5:2, they are still attacking without slowing down. They played in same gear for full 90 minutes, not giving any opportunity to the opponent.
rotex03 barca did not offer much challenge to them
That is on Barca for not fighting enough. But Bayern did more than enough to keep control of the game.
In my view, barca got their motivation when Suarez scored the second for them. But at the same time, Flick angered and screamed to his team, so their motivation got pumped once more and planned to keep it. The Davies vs Semedo was the most critical moment of the game. Got humiliated when their motivation raised crumbled all of the positive responses of the entire squad including Setien's. Coutinho's job was more like an icing on the cake.
@@rotex03 True, but I am saying Barca didn't offer them any challenge, which made it too easy for them.
This has been proved with evidence. When Liverpool were 3-0 down at halftime, when Gerard was walking in to the tunnel, he heard a lot of Liverpool fan cheering him saying it’s not over. After the match, he stated “The fans cheering gave me hope that it was not over”.
And the Liverpool fans never stopping singing throughout halftime
I'd love to see something like this for Barcelona v Chelsea 2012. Captain sent off, both center-backs are out, 2-0 down, all in the space of the first 40 mins or so. And let's not forget what team Barca had.
Eh, all they did was retreat in to their penalty box and formed a wall.
@@chunkz1187 Probably not. If somebody asks that psychology professor mentioned in this video, he could well give out a whole lecture on how Chelsea held on
@@chunkz1187 how did they score 2goals?
Had to push our players forward because chelsea just cannot play football
@@MattUnboxTV If they couldn't (not ''cannot'') play football UEFA wouldn't have let them into Camp Nou in first place.
Gerrard usually gets most of the credit, but Carragher was as good, if not better, in this game!
Didi Hamman too, played ET and took a peno with an injured, I think possibly broken bone in his foot.
Didi hamann was the best tbh carragher is not good enough sorry
It was surely not easy to score a header when your opponent had Maldini, Stam, and Nesta inside the box.
True. Stevie himself has said it many times in interviews about his captaincy that Carra was always the vocal one on the pitch while stevie played a silent, show-by-example role. Being vocal goes a long way not just in football but life in general as well.
Agreed,
The game changed when Didi came on.
Being a barca fan makes it pretty Hard to watch this video 😭😭
Lmfao brother, lmfao
Being an Ac Milan supporter it's even harder
@@mohammedsuliman8072nah nah I don't think sooo milan was not able to bring in good players or was not able to build up a good team in the last 7 year's maybe so you can say that no one had a lot of expectations on them.
But man to imagine bottling year after year having the lead and having one of the best player and having World Cup winners in the squad for what all in the end an 8-2😭😭
@Ayoub Nait we didn't lose after the covid restart so that was good but I witnessed the glory days of Ac Milan so I'm pretty sure it's harder for me to cope with the fact we had one of the best teams off all time to this also Barcelona won a league title last year our last important title win is in 2011 no one cares about supercopa Italia 😥😭
@Ayoub Nait yup yup I'm not trying to discredit Bayern they were absolutely unstoppable this season but the way we lost man 😭.we lost like a Sunday league team that's pretty shitty to be honest
I can pretty much think about these moments in every huge CL comeback in the last decade. Remember how PSG couldn't complete 3 passes after Neymar's free kick in the Camp Nou. How Barcelona let the two quick fire goals from Wijnaldum completely destabilize them to the point Alexander-Arnold could just take a quick corner kick while the entire Barca team switched off. If you go through every successful and even nearly successful comebacks, you'll see those moments where a goal goes in and then another comes right after because the defending team just loses control of the game.
As a Liverpool fan, this hurt more when Atletico use the similar mental to threw us out of the game this year. After Firminho scores the supposedly winning goal, Atleti's team use some moment to push easily, fabricating Adrian's blunder to a goal. Then Liverpool's mental got anguished and what follows are disaster
That match pissed me off as a Liverpool fan as well
That game had a strange effect on me. I couldn't muster getting angry or upset about it because it felt so harrowing that the game was even going on when almost every other league in Europe had shut down by this point.
They go from winning to losing in one mistake from the goalkeeper, now having 23 minutes to make another goal, when they needed 94 to make 2. If we also count the fact they were physically tired due to extra time, and would need to run to attack and back to defend against another goal, I totally understand they giving up.
The away goal rule is so unfair.
We could have beaten Bayern man lol.
That loss to Atletico defeated me, we did so much to fight back, only to give it away on a silly mistake from the keeper
@@BoxOfOranges84 it's always easy to blame the keeper and the keeper alone.
I'm whispering so the Saints fans can't hear me or they'd smash my head into the keyboard, but is this similar to the psychology of players on the end of a thrashing, like Southampton's 9- wlkejbq;vwb;lwvenlw env'lk'poqewkjg jwlhq
*Sorry Did I hear the words 9 and nil?*
Thats a paddling
But you could say that was a turning point in their season. I wonder if the psychology works the same over a long period of time. The 9-0 is their lowest point. It looked to me that they were certain for the drop. It took a few more weeks to really change things around but ultimately they did mount a comeback and finish strong. Conversely Norwich or Bournemouth who both started strong ended up folding when results didn't go their way.
Yeah bro considering how everything went after the match, I'm pretty content with us losing 9-0 if it meant we'd have the fifth best form in the Premier League for the remainder of the year
@@edmann1820 thats a misconception. In truth we had awful games after that game like everton. It wasnt until a winter break and a change in tactics to a 4 2 2 2 that results shifted. 9-0 was an outlier (one man down vs a very in form leicester team) in a more general malaise. It wasnt season defining as everyone thinks, but thats just because 99% havnt actually watched all our games
@@ethanparker324 the question is will it happen again
2:15 I feel it's worth mentioning Liverpool needed to win the game against Olympiacos by two clear goals after they conceded. Saying they came back from 0-1 down to make it 3-1 doesn't sound like a big deal if you don't consider that.
We all know... but you’re not wrong
Me, a counsellor seeing Bandura's theory being referenced on a TIFO video :)
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Steven Gerrard scores a goal that puts a grain of doubt in the Milan minds & gives hope to the millions... Captain's goalll
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Liverpool should be bombed
That's one of my most favorite pieces of commentary. Clive Tyldesley is a master at his craft!
@@civilservant9528 Butthurt manc
Arvindh Mani imo the aguero and deeny goal were the best honorable mention is Torres goal against Barcelona
@@civilservant9528 What is wrong with you troll ? 😯😑😑
Probably the best ever game I watched in my lifetime. Who would have thought Vladimir Smicer would score in the presence of greats such as Pirlo, Seedorf and Kaka.
so many crazy things about the 2005 win. Igor Biscan retired with a European Cup winner's medal, but Ronaldo9 didn't xD
Riise and Shaqiri their crosses looked similar to me. Brilliant stuff.
the same thing that happened to maldini, gattuso and pirlo happened to jordi alba in corner taken quickly goal and more recently to semedo, pique and lenglet against bayern
I’m glad I came across this channel or I would have missed out on some of the highest quality football content out there. Keep up the great work and thank you.
What a great game this was. Truly broke my heart as an AC Milan fan but Liverpool really it did, can’t be mad at history
Fan support, Player's mentality strength and stamina is the recipe for come back
This just maybe is the best video this channel has ever made.
Mentaly physcally strong to be a control anything is possible.
Should do this For Real Madrid as this season has been something psychological.
That's the charm of foootball
Bills v Oilers 92, Falcons v Pats 2018, Chiefs v Texans 2020, off the top of my head
most informative video i've ever seen
This is one of the best explanations of Man Utd's mentality weakness - they're a team choc full of results-oriented players
I was losing a sf of FIFA18 tournament match 3-0. Somehow won 4-3 in the end. There were people watching so it feels good to accomplish such type of win. I know it's a video game but it still requires mental capabilities.
My favorite TIFO ever. Love this stuff. As a tennis player it is vital to understand on an individual level
2015/2016 season falkirk had 3 comebacks from when we were 2 nil down one against st mirren early in the season and beat them with a last minute goal
Again with rangers they were 2 nil up and we scored 3 in the second half with a last minute winner
And the best one in my opinion was against hibs, hibs were 2 nil up with 10 mins to go falkirk down to 10 men and we drew 2 each with 2 last minute goals that team had good never say die attitude because there were other games that season where we would score in the last 10 minutes to win the game or draw to avoid defeat
You can see it coming in a way I thought but still a stunmer beyond belief!!
As a Milan fan it was hard to watch this video, but it's a great video.
Get job on the video TIFO. Exactly what I needed to hear at this moment. Thanks a ton.
People come back to expect a come-back 😏
Another comeback that is often forgotten is the Deportivo Milan match. That tie really showed that the great Milan side could absolutely crumble through their own complacence and similar defensive patterns were seen when free headers were able to be scored in each leg
This video hits hard when you're a Barca fan
Basically the same thing with barca vs bayern, the first 5 mins bayern was dominating and after the own goal it was very difficult to predict who would win as both teams were very close and then in the next few minutes bayern scored 3 goals in period. After halftime barca came back and played well and scored a goal then bayern scored and the whole team fell apart and by the end it was like nobody cared and conceded 3 unnecessary goals in the last few minutes.
It’s certainly one of those game of why football is best thing created
The best game in history!
Hopefully we get an Arsenal comeback this season 💣
I really hope that happens
Really positive stuff from Arterta
We already had one last season at Stamford Bridge. Coming back twice with 10 men
I don't want a comeback, I want them to lead the whole game.
As a Liverpool fan I thoroughly enjoyed this video 😉 :)
Well written and produced guys, keep doing your thang love
Amazing video, good job on 'dumbing down' banduras theory too!
Milan 🥺❤️🖤
Title : the science of a sports comeback
Liverpool fans : yes
A level PE vibes
Here after west ham's comeback against spurs
Amazing Content !! Love it
We would love to see another come back story of the same team in anfield in a champions league semi final.
Really hope you do Ajax v Tottenham 2019 Champions League Semi final. The last minute goal aspect of football has always interested me. For Instance - 75% of goals are scored in the first and last 5 minutes of each half, with the majority of those being in the last 5 minutes of the second half. Of all the goals scored in the first half, the majority of them are scored at the end of the 1st half between the 40-45 min mark.
Steven Gerrard personifies Heroism 😍😍👑👑
This stuff actually correlates quite well with the Liverpool barca comeback as well.
Glad you mentioned Dudek's double save, as good a pair of saves as ///i have ever seen.
This channel is simply sensational!
Great video! I would like to see more videos with this scientific aspect.
Beautiful analysis... I will bookmark this
I once did a crazy comeback in fencing from losing 9-3 to win 14-15
Stevie G. is the real OG 🔥🔥
And the science behind Leicester’s PL title? How explain this?
He's a wizard Harry... or a time anomaly definitely
All the big six teams were transitioning except arsenal who bottled it
I read something once. Leicester manager that time often have dinner together with the team. Having fun while Spurs (I think they were 2nd that year.) were training nonstop. I may have been that. Leicester kept the players happy and Spurs were just overworked.
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It’s like Man United are the masters of this science. It’s imbedded in the club’s philosophy & every player seems to cultivate this belief. Only Glory awaits!
The Milan team was stacked damn
The most important thing in sports is momentum. I hear that more in american sports but ive literally never heard anyone use the word when talking about football. but its plain as day to see. look at leicester. they won their title entirely by riding their momentum. And comebacks are smaller versions of that. one good tackle or pass leads to positivity and that leads to more good things and that leads to a goal and that leads to more goals. its all about finding small victories wherever and whenever you can and always building on your momentum. In american sports its usually not the "best" team that wins playoff series and championships, instead its whichever team is "hottest" at that moment. I think jurgen klopp has tapped into this beautifully. "from doubters to believers" is basically another way of saying "we're going to build on positive momentum instead of feeling down about bad things."
Liverpool 3-3 AC Milan
Liverpool 4-0 Barcelona
Liverpool 4-3 Dortmund
Liverpool love comeback
I mean both Liverpool and Manchester United are both known for there comebacks it's funny because they're both rival teams and there's probably lots if comebacks in there historic derby.
I hate Liverpool, Liverpool hates my club, and I wouldn't have it any other way
Can you please do a video on Chelsea and their transfer window?
"It's looking more like we could to lose."
Love your content guys, but you really should get some sleep. I'm glad we're getting so many videos but I'm sure it's not helping Alex's smoking habit
wait what? audible confusion
@@edits5553 5:29
@@lewisroberts1777 i was referring more to the smoking habit / lack of sleep
That champions league final brings back bad memories. How can you be 3-0 up only to lose it on penalties? Fortunately it was rectified two years later.
We need this Video: Where should messi go? ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
This video is amazing 😮
Keep doing what you doing:)
Brilliant video. I will love to see more videos about brazilian teams.
wolves - leeds
2-0 half-time
2-3 full-time
probably the best game in pl this season.
Miracle of Medina
Hey Tifo
Please do a video on Michael Laudrup. He is such and underrated player that was a key figure in Johan Cruyff’s Barcelona team.
Like for Them to see
Nationals 2023 comeback would be f*ng insane in MLB baseball
Best comeback ever... Rocky Balboa in Rocky II. This movie should be played to the underdog team on the evening before the big game. Yes... I know it's a movie, but 'Adrian! I did it!' beats all the psychological science (for me) easily. Just youtube Rocky II full fight, and, if it doesn't make you want to be the best you can be, for a few hours... I don't know. I'm not a psychologist.
The lord works in mysterious ways
This video saved my EPQ ❤️
This is why l love tifo football
You should do a video of Turkish Comeback of Euro 2008
against Switzerland , Checzh Republic , last second comeback against Croatia, and almost Germany...
Another great example is Czech Republic's defeat to Turkey at EURO 2008
i covered bandura extensively this school year and i never thought i’d ser psychology in a tifo video 💀
What a good video
😭 bad memories
That's the most interesting video yet
Rangers v braga at ibrox was an equally gripping comeback
I love stamps. Seems you kinda like them too!
I first heard: "To mark the return of sport, the Athletic is running a series counting down the greatest Scumbags of history"
That game was more of a collapse from AC Milan, than a comeback from Liverpool.
You have literally described most if not all come backs in sports.
@@JR-sj1jz almost totally agree mate
Can you make a video explaining the impact of Messi leaving Barcelona and how they could recover?
Please change the subtitles so that bits that aren't in the video aren't in the subtitles
Milan players touched the cup before the game while LFC players did not..you didn’t see teams doing that anymore after that final. Also, the YNWA chant at halftime all but confirmed the football gods were on LFC’s side.
Its Milan vs Liverpool and Barca vs PSG....2 most famous I think??
Tell us about Messi's role in man city again?
Milan also let PSV come back against them in semi final, highly talented team that lost concentration from winning positions.
Liverpool is the king of comebacksPERIOD.
would love to see this about tot v ajax
no it still hurts
Next vid should be about how much money Messi makes for Barcelona financially
Kaka tore Traore to shreds in the first half. Shutting that down helped establish a foothold. As a United fan, the following pains me to say. At half-time, the fans really played their part. That's what I remember most from that night. The players must have heard them.