That’s why I’m glad they have managed to turn their car into a donkey this year. They don’t deserve to have a competitive one with Lance on one side of the garage
Lance Stroll is the problem , Sainz and Alonso (two Spaniards on top of that) at Astin , with Newey coming in would of given them an interesting title shot for 2026
Lawrence Stroll is the reason they are looking like they could be genuine challengers in a few years. If he wants to put his clearly disinterested son in as a driver and embarrass him every few months that's upto him. But no Lance, no title chance.
Sainz looking at the FW46: I can fix her. Reminder, he is a workaholic, very technically minded, has actually surprised Ferrari with his willingness to go above and beyond at the factory, is well respected by engineers from all teams he was at previously and, whilst correlation ain't causation, lest we forget, while he was at both McLaren and Ferrari they improved massively from a technical perspective. He can provide feedback, he does understand the specifics of multiple frontrunner cars and he has proven capable of adapting to multiple different vehicle characteristics, not to mention his strategic abilities. Williams finally improving their internal methodologies by switching to a proper parts tracking solution from Excel alongside other investments will likely benefit massively from Sainzs experience and talent.
This is not the 1960s, driver feedback is just a small piece of the car development. if the rest is trash, he will keep fall in every Q1 session in 2025.
Ferrari were on the up no matter who drove for them because the only reason they were slow in 2020 was due to an engine punishment, but in 2019 they were a front running team and the 2022 regulations allowed them to go back to that level.
AM is where they are primarily because their car is crap. No amount of talent can fix that (And no, the example of Verstappen 2024 does not count - the RB20 was still the 3rd best car on the grid even at its worst.) They and Sauber are the only teams that have failed to gain anything of much significance from post-Spring upgrades. Stroll is by no means a great driver, but he's not terrible either.
@@pao_2031 Stroll is definitely the worst veteran on the grid now. Just as an example, which driver with more than a seasons experience would you rate lower than Stroll?
Every driver struggles to drive cars built around Alonso’s feedback. Kimi, Button, Vandoorne, Massa… no guarantees that Sainz would do better than 2 WDCs.
@@paperplane-db8qf150 points with the 2nd-3rd fastest car on the grid isn’t as bad as 24 points with the 5th fastest. And Checo floored Stroll with same machinery. The only teammate Stroll has outperformed was Sirotkin, so yes maybe he is complete shit and made Checo look even better than he was.
My appreciation and support for Carlos have grown over time. He is an incredible driver and a better professional. He takes his job very seriously and looks motivated for the future. He wants to become a world champion really bad. I have much respect for him.
I honestly expect him to be fighting for points each race next year. As he's the kinda driver that'll drag the car up to grid higher than it should be.
I always wonder if it's the car or the driver. It'll be interesting to see. Hypothetically, could max verstappen win a race in a Williams? I've recently started getting into f1 and I'm catching up on everything 😅
@@NeilSharksNah, not even Max could win races in a Williams, but he might well drag it a few places further up the field. Historically, Williams have been one of the top teams in F1, but for the past couple of decades they've slipped further and further behind. Will be good to see them come back though!
@@NeilSharks it is a bit of both, but the only way even someone like Max wins in a Williams is if some very weird things happen. You need a good car to win, but also a good driver.
.037 off Charles this season for quali is kinda nuts. There's been so many sessions where I've seen them be a few thousandths off each other. Imo Carlos definitely doesn't get enough credit for his qualifying pace.
I imagine that Sainz will be Williams' valuable asset in terms of its performance during next season and also for the seasons beyond next year as I think he will bring quite a lot of good feedback to the table and help the team build a progressively better car
@@JoeVer-d6vYou’re not very bright are you? He tried desperately to get in the RBR next to Max and Max told RBR not to sign him. Dude scored literally 4x more points than Raikkonen as teammates and nearly blanked him in races and qualifying. Unlike Hamilton, he can drive anything, not just great cars.
@@The_ZeroLine as I said, 10 years ago. A world champion should have little to no roadblocks going back to a top team, especially for this long. Clearly he doesn't want to
@@JoeVer-d6v Well, let’s see, Ferrari had Charles Leclerc and Vettel when he came back. No space. He tried to go to Red Bull for this season. No dice. He tried to go to Mercedes for this season. No dice. So, what exactly are you talking about?
Every move Carlos has ever had to make has been forced upon him rather than being one of his own making, however each time it has worked out for him. You have to chalk some of that down to luck, but the rest has to be that he can get the best out of what he is given and can actively improve any team he's a part of.
Maybe this is an unpopular opinion but Carlos has fallen upwards every time he's left a team and has arguably never been the "first" driver on any teams he's been on. In Torro Rosso Max was clearly better, at Renault Hulkenburg was slightly better, at McLaren Carlos was slightly better than a rookie Lando but it was clear that long term Norris would be better, and at Ferrari Leclerc is clearly better and has scored over 120 more points than Sainz. No doubt Carlos os a good driver but he is not elite and has been very lucky to have gotten in with a better team each driver switch. I just think this is a normal correction to the course of his career.
@@ndlovulwazi From what I remember, Ferrari offered him a one year extension and Carlos wanted at least 2 years. It was pretty clear that Ferrari were going to go in a different direction in 2026 with new regulations coming in but Hamilton changed that for them.
We have to stop with the "Sainz is regretting williams move" thing now. Williams is a project that will succeed under vowels. McLaren turned it around, hass is doing it too. Williams will do it. Also Sainz is coming there after driving a ferrari. He knows what made that car second in constructors, he will tell the williams engineers that. If not 2025 then 2026, but I think the Williams project with James, Albon and Sainz will definitely succeed. Williams will be a smooooooooooooth operatiooon soooon
No chance, their facilities are probably the most outdated on the grid. I can see Williams being competitive in the future but definitely not 2026, at the earliest 2030.
I wish I could believe this, but with the budget nightmare at Williams that will undoubtedly hinder development, lackluster facilities, and that promise that's been made every year, that THIS is the year, Carlos is skating uphill and more likely to leave before that team finds a way to at least get to the midfield.
Aside from Williams and Hamilton, I feel like Carlos leaving Ferrari is breaking apart the best duo on the grid. It's been said to death, but Carlos and Charles are perfect side by side. And when you showed that Carlos has earned about 90% of Charles points total over his career, I think it's proof of how good he is. I don't think Hamilton is washed, not that Williams is hopeless, but the Ferrari-Charles-Carlos trio was a very strong one and they may come to regret tearing it apart.
Hamilton is the opposite, he has the ego of a 7-WDC but is he still as good as one? He just lost to Russell. He could get away with calling his car garbage every weekend and Toto will still kiss his a** but I don't think that will go down well at Ferrari.
@@As-qz5lr Hamilton actually outscored Russell this year, and has won over him 2 out of the 3 years they were together. regardless of how ppl act, Russell is easily a top 6-7 driver on the grid, and the car was obviously designed more around Russell this year as he is mercedes future. Lewis has proved multiple times this year that when hes confident in the car he can still fight for wins. hell be fine at ferrari, or at least as good as Sainz id bet
I think Sainz will pull up trees at Williams, I think a shock podium will crop up somewhere and regular top 10 finishes, which for Williams will be just the motivation and drive they'll need heading into 2026.
Carlos is my most favourite driver because he is: fast thinker, very approachable, understand things that people may take with a pinch of salt, can plan better than the whole team and he is highly reliable when something goes wrong for the other driver
Genuinely still staggered Ferrari opted to destabilise their own lineup for short term headlines with LH. Sainz well and truly stiffed when he should’ve been at Ferrari for another 4 or 5 seasons.
Oh that’s funny. Sainz had 4 years at Ferrari and delivered 4 wins. Ferrari have won bugger all since Kimi and decided to find a better driver, who just so happened to be available .A driver who with Fred as TP, previously won both the F3 and GP 2 Championships together. It’s a shame that Sainz lost his seat, but given the fact that McLaren, RBR, Mercedes or AM offered him a seat tells you everything you need to know.
Instead of being pessimistic about him going to Williams, I want to look on the bright side: Wewill get to see Carlos Sainz's contributions be part of the effort to turn Williams around from their costly 2024 season. That is what we are guaranteed to see him do, and only time will tell if Williams turnaround is a success. If Williams and Carlos Sainz does pull back into the midfield fight, this will be a nice hat trick for Carlos Sainz, which will make it three for three historic legacy F1 teams he was a part of assisting them in their pull up back to relevancy. After beginning his career in the high pressure Red Bull Junior team partnering Max Verstappen, he was moved to Renault as part of an agreement between Red Bull and Renault back then. I believe his experiences at these two teams nurtured his mindset and independence. He joined McLaren in 2019, after a disappointing 2018 year for them, and he, along with teammate Lando Norris, began pushing McLaren back into the midfield. The second time he brought a team back from poor form was Ferrari, where he joined in 2021, after their crippling 2020 season. Hopefully, his time at Williams will also be bringing back this team into the midfield fight. For my bonus wishlist for what I do want to se Carlos Sainz and Williams do It will be great to see him sneak the Williams onto the Podium, McLaren Brazil 2019 and Ferrari Hungary 2021 style. Even better if he can strategise a Williams Race win, just like what he did for Ferrari in Singapore 2023.
Really being generous to Sainz in saying he was relevant to Ferrari's pull up back to relevancy, when the only reason they were down out of a top 3 spot was because of the sanctions they took due to the illegal engine they ran in 2019. This heavily compromised the car for 2020 and the 2021 regs limited heavily what you can change on the car so they couldn't make a massive leap and they still had several podiums and even could've won a race (Monaco) had Leclerc been able to start the race. Since the new regs they've been back to top 3. So in reality Ferrari had a single nightmare year and was never out of relevancy otherwise.
if his feedback does come in handy and williams can have decent car with minimum crashes monza is where it is perfectly plausible for him to have a podium or top 5 finish at least the track is historically great for williams and sainz also performs well there
I have some sympathy for Carlos, but I think it has to be pointed out that if he had just stayed at McLaren and backed them he probably would have won a constructors championship this year and would have possible drivers championship machinery. I know hindsight is 20/20 but Carlos has been ruthless at times too.
I think Carlos would have put up a better championship battle than Lando, as he is better at thinking on his feet. But as many have said, you don't refuse Ferrari.
@@paperplane-db8qfnobody is pretending he’s flawless? they’re just highlighting a quality about sainz, which is that he’s good at thinking at his feet.
@@paperplane-db8qf He's not flawless, but he's fairly intelligent and can think quick in the middle of a race, like in Singapore 2023, when he held onto his victory by slowing down and keeping Lando in his DRS as a buffer against the faster mercedes cars behind.
Reminds me of Enea Bastianini going from the best motogp team down to the secondary ktm team, all the while the washed Franco Morbidelli stays at a Ducati team…
Between the top four, Enea was clearly the worst performer and I say that as an Enea fan. He wasn't getting the factory Ducatti seat again and his ego didn't let him take a satellite seat again and keep a Ducatti for next season. I am sure they'd love to have him at Gresini and he'd get the third GP25 over Fabio. His own choice to end up on a factory KTM (the satelite team will effectively be a second KTM factory team, at least before the financial woes that was the plan at the time).
Calling this an injustice is an over-the-top exaggeration. He is simply unlucky owing to the timing of Hamilton's exit announcement. That's it. There are no guarantees in this sport. He's not the first talented driver to end up in a back marker team, and certainly won't be the last.
I'm anticipating that Sainz will show that Albon is not as fast as he perhaps believes he is. Albon has only had Latifi and Sargent as measuring sticks, and Colapinto's initial speed proved that Albon wasn't as dominant as many perhaps thought. I hope Sainz has success at Williams, simply because he has found himself out of a Ferrari drive (that was not down to underperformance) and he deserves something good to go his way. He works hard, is fast, and hopefully finds a seam of good results that propels him back into a top team in 2027.
Toto didn't want Lewis testing for Ferrari because it was Lewis's input in Mercedes cars in 2018/2019/2020 that made Mercedes win these championships. Toto Wolff admitted to this in a recent interview. For the history of Ferrari, they are underachieving.
Bro, Carlos Sainz sr. has always been the most driven and hardest working driver out there and his son is no different. He truly needs a team that can realize his potential.
The issue is he’s not fast enough to be a number 1 a top team can pin their hopes on but is also too assertive to do the Bottas/Perez job. There’s nowhere for him at the top. Obviously he’s a better fit than Stroll for Aston but then does that mean they’re not backing Alonso as much?
He’s plenty fast enough to be a number 1 problem is the top teams bring guys up through the ranks and keep them. Max was a RB kid, Norris was a McLaren kid, Charles was a Ferrari kid, Russell been a Mercedes kid same with Andrea.
@@zacharyradford5552 Yeah, because it's really a problem to keep Max, the best to ever do it, instead of going for a chump like Sainz. Wake up and smell the coffee, Sainz is nowhere near Max' level, never was and never will be.
Lecrerc was the chosen one for Ferrari. Can you imagine the greatness of what Sainz has done considering that little detail that everyone knows but everyone denies? Winning a race while convalescing from an operation says it all. Sainz's loyalty and his silence with Lecrerc have been anthological.
Lawrence Stroll needs to give his son some tough love and kick him out. If he doesn't really want this bad enough to put effort in and drive well, then he shouldn't be there.
Sainz never seriously considered by RB since he comes with a Jos of his own, else he would still driving for RB. RB can tolerate Jos being insufferable because of Max.
At this point that's just a lame excuse. Red Bull if they really wanted, that wouldn't be an issue. They just don't want a consistent driver, that has proven to adapt well to many cars, next to Max. Max is already explosive without having a teammate pressuring him, imagine with a teammate that made him sweat or doesn't immediately get out of the way? Red Bull doesn't want to deal with that. They are fully centered around Max, to the point of sacrificing the constructor's title, which is ridiculous. Especially since Max doesn't need this protection, he has more than enough talent to deal with anyone they pair him with.
The inter-father friction when Max and Carlos were together and TR mostly came from the Verstappen side. Jos doesn't just dislike Sainz Sr., it's any driver he sees as any kind of threat to Max.
@@solduspython Agreed. Jos was an average F1 driver whose most famous moment of his career was being on fire, whilst Sainz Sr. is a certified rally legend.
The thing that still doesn't make sense is that Mercedes (or Toto) didn't sign Sainz and prefer a kid like Antonelli that still hasn't proved that he had what it takes to be in F1. Even the situation isn't fair for the F2 champion and runner-up: Bortoleto is going to Sauber, the last team of the grid, and Hadjar only had a test with Red Bull but nothing else, while Antonelli has a place in a top team without having a great season in F2, winning only a race and a sprint and finishing in 6th position.
Sainz is roughly a Russell level driver. A bit slower most likely. Why would they get rid of Lewis for a second Russell? They’re taking a swing for the fences with Kimi while waiting for Max to become a free agent.
Sainz improved a lot over his 4 seasons with Ferrari. To begin with he was no match for Leclerc but by the end of it they were both top drivers. Leclerc meanwhile has barely moved along his goal path from superstar signing to being a realistic contender for world champion.
Ferrari didn't give him the tools to be world champion in 2022the actually sabotaged him and this season this season Ferrari fought for a title because redbull was racing in reality with 1 car
Leclerc has improved himself, it was just less obvious because his standard has been set high already. While he still has the odd hiccup and struggles a bit in certain car setups, he's had a 50% podium rate this year and finished almost every race in the top 5. That includes a race from 19th to 3rd. He's become more assertive with his team (something people heavily criticized him for being too meek), his tyre managment is excellent and he's still been very quick in qualifying (I think he got like 2 or 3 poles this season) despite the car struggling with tyre warmup and having weaker qualy pace this year. Ferrari also have had compromised cars since these new regs (2022 - reliability, TD mandating higher floor edges, 2023 - race pace suffering due to a tyre-chomping car characteristic, 2024 - strong race pace but weak qualifying prowess due to difficult tyre warmup car quirk). If 2025 Ferrari gives him a quick and balanced car without any obvious shortcomings you will see him at his full potential and I expect nothing less than a title fight from him.
2:35 Only 10% less points than Leclerc is really impressive. Especially given that Ferrari clearly favors Leclerc as their golden boy. With equal treatment Sainz might just have the same amount of points as Leclerc.
Does anyone else have that feeling Williams will be fighting for podiums over the next few years. Investment, drivers, staff, all heading back to the glory days?
I think Williams are a dark horse and shouldn't be ruled out. They've invested heavily in their facilities, signed Carlos and don't need pay drivers anymore.
Are they really? Teams don't exist in a vacuum, their position is relative to the rest of the grid. You could do a really good job improving your team and still lag behind because other simply did better or had more potential to begin with. Williams is still tiny compared to most of the grid, everyone is making heavy investements and pretty much all teams have good lineups now. It'll help them in a fight for P7 against the rest of the minnows (Haas, RB, Sauber), but with Alpine getting their shit back together and AM doing a decent job they're really still nowhere near where they should be given their pedigree. For 2026 again even if the Mercedes engine is dominant they'll be up against the factory, a resurgent McLaren and an Alpine that has proven can fix their car even when they fuck up. Best they can hope for is a 2014 type of season and Sainz knows that will not be enough for him.
I thought we moved on from this narrative already. Yeah it sucks for Carlos cause he did nothing terribly wrong to warrant being replaced, but the fact that it takes Lewis Hamilton to replace you is an indicator of how good you are. With Carlos’ mentality and work ethic, I can see top teams still keeping an eye on him to scoop him up if the opportunity presents itself and Williams doesn’t progress fast enough to match Carlos’ peak.
People forget that after Ferrari, its Williams that is the most successful team on the grid. Ferrari is competitive now, they were not when Sainz came in. Infact Sainz even beat Charles in their first season together in that shitbox
That was a long time ago. Last WDC and WCC was in 1997 with Adrian Newey designing the cars through the 90s, once he left the success followed him to McLaren. Frank Williams & Patrick Head are long gone too. F1 requires way more money than what independent team can generate (unless they get the backing of another billionaire like Lawrence Stroll).
Just because Binotto massively fucked up a championship challenging team doesn’t mean Ferrari were not competitive. It’s not like Sainz magically turned it around. And he only beat LeClerc due to luck and reliability issues.
Leclerc has been stronger at complaining on the radio to be put in front, so not really a fair comparison between the two. I thought Carlos killed it this year, and they got rid of the wrong driver...
Spot on, I feel something that hasn’t been mentioned about Carlos is that he is one of the most humble professionals in the grid never going into too much drama like we are used to with the usuals at the top. He has always has been a good team mate overall. An example is VER he made Redbull win the drivers Championship that gives Redbull "directly" 0 cash but has trashed all his team mates mentally RIC,ALB,GAS,PER... These drivers arrive to this team as a talented hope and exit the team as Jokes. I can only imagine how the team meetings are, how he will fight to get the car to perform to HIS driver style and not looking for the team. Red Bull lost $220M becasue of Redbull allowing ego take over a TEAM. This is why I value Sainz as a Driver and this is very important for a F1 team.
Maybe this makes commercial sense from Ferrari's perspective, with sponsorship and everything, but from the outside it looks like a sporting misstep. Hamilton won't be significantly faster than Sainz, if at all, and there is much more risk of him upsetting the team dynamic. Hamilton isn't getting younger, and he has even indicated recently that he isn't sure if his lack of pace at Mercedes this year (versus Russell, who dominated him in qualifying) is down to the car or his own performance. He has also shown a tendency to develop damaging internal rivalries (Alonso, Rosberg), and tis move introduces an odd dynamic, Leclerc being the junior driver from an F1 perspective but very much the more established team member and someone with championship-winning potential. Leclerc will feel that Ferrari owe him priority, or at least equal treatment. In short: there is a significant downside risk for Ferrari with Hamilton's arrival, with very little upside, in a sporting sense.
Everyone is like "it's so unfair Hamilton took his seat, karma this, karma that". Meanwhile Red Bull snubs him for the second time. And this time he's proven to be consistent in 4 different cars, has experience, has beaten talented teammates, helped the teams he was on to grow in performance and consistency. But apparently it's Hamilton that has to receive the wrath of karma, while Red Bull having a second driver made of jelo, doesn't even look twice to Sainz as an option. Which is ridiculous. He was now a free agent, already worked with Max, already worked with Red Bull. His consistency would be perfect for RB in the constructor's. What do they do? Don't even consider him. All because they don't want to bother Max. They prefer to have a doormat as a second driver so they don't have to deal with Max's attitude soon Sainz did not got out of the way.
I wouldn't be surprised if there's something in verstappens contract that gives him a lot of power over who's in the second seat. He likes having a punching bag for a teammate and it makes him look better than he really is.
People think that because max is dominating perez, he must be invincible 😂 Mick Schumacher dominated Mazepin in 2021, and then got beat comfortably by magnussen in 2022. Magnuessen is then beat convincingly by Hulkenberg in 23 and 24. Neither max or red bull want a competent driver in that seat out of fear of the golden child being exposed.
Red-Bull's biggest asset this year was Verstappen, (maybe Hannah Schmidtz but she gets the benefit of only focusing on maximising Verstappen's points). Why would they sacrifice that for a driver Ferrari dismissed?
@@andrewmelton2686 don't think he'd be able to, considering they already raced each other one season and got convincingly beat by max. he'd sure as hell be a great no2 driver and 100% better than poorez, but I don't think that's the role he wants to fulfill in a top team as evident with ferrari
I personally think Williams and Carlos got a great deal here and I wouldn't be surprised if one day Carlos says it was the best move he ever made. James is one of the new TP's and he is building Williams from the ground upwards. That means they will be innovating everything. From previous interviews with James and Alex, you get the sense that he listens and values his drivers input. He's mentioned several times that Alex has spent a lot of his time helping his team mates, supporting them and even giving them advice on turns, gears etc. This is something you don't hear often. So thinking about it, out of Carlos and Lewis. I feel Carlos won't have the political house of cards like they do at Ferrari. He can put himself into the team and 2026 car.
Rather disingenuous to not mention that he was offered a year's extension to his contract by Ferrari but he turned it down as he was holding out for more. That tactic is what cost him his seat as, when Lewis suddenly became available, Sainz was the one left without a seat in the game of driver musical chairs. I fear he's also made a huge mistake going to Williams rather than Sauber/Audi. Forget where Sauber are now and remember that Audi have made a huge success of pretty much every category of motorsport they've entered. Time may not be on his side but I still feel Audi will be winning races before Williams.
Whether or not Ferrari should have signed Lewis isn't the issue. The fact is that Sainz left himself open to being replaced by any other driver by virtue of playing hardball over his contract while Leclerc had already signed his. He gambled and lost and is at least partially culpable in all of this, something completely omitted in this video.
I agree with the first part but not the second part. Sauber seem unprepared and all rumours are that the Audi engine is also a disaster which will be down on power too. Binotto himself has said he has no hope for the Audi to be the best engine and that the engine is far behind and it will be simply about minimising the power deficit IIRC.
Accepting a 1 year deal is just kicking the can down the road. Ferrari, only being willing to offer a 1 year deal at most shows Sainz that they don't consider him a long-term prospect. Honestly, a 2 year deal for 2025 and 2026 would've been great for both parties. Keeping Sainz just for 2025, then replacing him in 2026 means their new driver won't be up to speed with the team for the regulation change. Kinda crazy that they went with Hamilton instead of Sainz, but Hamilton is more for marketing than his speed I guess, they already know Leclerc is their number 1 and Lewis won't trouble him, which Sainz did... occasionally.
Its all on Redbull, Carlos Sainz is undoubtedly the perfect replacement for Sergio Perez but now RB are too late so they now have to rely on Lawson an unexperienced rookie whos not impressed in the races hes been in & disregarding Yuki because of Honda. Carlos Sainz going to Williams will be very good for Williams to move into the upper midfield I do believe James Vowles has made a perfect move & done Redbull in a way. Redbull have basically had their pants pulled down with Sainz going to Williams and only now deciding Perez isnt good enough
They never wanted him. Pérez proved he wasn't good enough by the midpoint of the year. Sainz even postponed his decision because of Red Bull, still they tried to play him, like they did back when he was at Renault, forbiding him from renewing with them and forcing him to go back to Toro Rosso. If they truly wanted him, they would immediately jump on the opportunity. Remember, they renewed Pérez when he was on the worse slump of performance of the season. Not in the beginning when he was doing ok. No. At the exact point he was being the worse driver, "here, have some more years with us".
@@The_Curious_CatI do agree about the Perez contract but I think they only did it because they thought he would come back in the season and that this when their cars' fundamental issues weren't exposed and they didn't much about the problems. I don't think Redbull knew Perezs form would get so bad and probably thought giving him a new contract would help him out in confidence, clearly it hasnt
It's not unfair by any stretch, he has had issues with team mates and powerplay moves in the team, big teams not wanting to upset the balance is justified too.
I want to go out on a limb and say, depending on contract terms, if Carlos show immediate pace in the Williams, Stroll may feel pressure inside and out to give his sons seat to Carlos. One thing we scan over with Stroll is that he refuses to give anyone around his son’s age a seat. Overpaying for past champions can only last so long since the grid is getting younger. We’ll definitely see a more wreckless stroll if the rookies come in and show better pace.
Sainz feels like Alonso without the titles, jumping from team to team before they got good. If he had stayed at Redbull or McLaren he would not be in this situation
"If he stayed at Red Bull". lol what? If he stayed at Red Bull (in Toro Rosso that is) he would be another footnote in F1. They never gave him a chance at the main seat, not even after proving he has talent and is consistent in different cars. What makes you think they would give him a chance if he stayed? Since the excuse they are using now is it's because of Jos and Sainz Sr. that he's not in Red Bull? The guy proved to be good at Renault, they forced him to go back to Toro Rosso. The guy proves to be good at McLaren and Ferrari, plus is a free agent, they don't even consider him. They don't want him. Which is ridiculous, unfair and a bunch of (red) bull.
Sainz is not a WDC level driver. Just look at 2022 where LeClerc was fighting Max and Perez while Sainz was getting beaten by Russell and Hamilton. Honestly 2022 Perez was somehow a better driver than Sainz. Even this season - Sainz crashed out in Brazil, Baku, Canada, Singapore Q2. Ferrari could’ve probably won the constructors if it wasn’t for all these huge errors. Like usually top driver would crash out once a season.
@@paperplane-db8qf Sainz was closer to Leclerc, than Piastri was to Norris... He did lose a few points, sure, but every driver makes mistakes. The McLaren was a faster package overall, and the constructors battle only existed because of McLaren throwing away so many points across the season.
I like how Carlos is motivated to lead a team to success and he really means it. So many times drivers say things that they dont really believe in just so they get hired or get an opportunity. I am sure Albon and Carlos have already talked on how to handle their own prides while driving and thats the thing. Carlos is very efficient with communication. I just hope Carlos doesn’t fall off of patience. Even 7 yrs is still young considering Alonso is 43.
If you known Carlos snr you understand Carlos jnr. Williams are playing down their potential in 25 but it’s unlikely to be anything like last couple of years. Albon will raise his game, they all will, Carlos will bring new drive to the whole team just at the right time.
james vowles says that the lineup sainz and albon is the best as they both are fast and consistent veterans. they dont wanna sign any more rookies like zak o sullivan or luke browning because they would be inconsistent like sargeant or colapinto last season, leading to just repairing cars all night to race. they both dont crash too often so this is a good thing for williams to be with 2 veterans in their lineup.
It’s ironic how Ferrari sabotaged Vettel out of the team for “financial reasons” and focusing on younger drivers, while they sacked the younger driver they replaced Vettel with for a much older driver that demanded higher pay and an ambassador role for no logical reason. They’re not going anywhere are they? Watching Ferrari is like watching Netflix, you always had to wait for the next season
Kinda like how Gunther signed Mazepin and Schumacher cuz "Haas needs younger talent," and then fired them both because "Haas needs experienced veterans." These teams are run by monkeys.
I'm a big fan of Carlos because of his racecraft and teamwork and how he's been steadily removing mistakes from his driving and improving the areas where he had a deficit to his teammate. I think the real question in his move to Williams is Albon. We are penciling them into a repeat performance from Alex plus a bundle of points from Carlos translating into 6th in the championship but Albon has been on easy street for years with no pressure at all from Latifi and Sargeant so it will be interesting to see how he reacts to being beaten by his teammate from time to time.
I’m actually not convinced that Norris and Piastri is a better lineup than Albon and Sainz. I think Sainz is better than both drivers as he seems to be very consistent getting the max out of his car, and at this point Albon is probably better than Piastri.
Big strategic miss on Aston Martin behalf by not snatching him up because of nepotism. They had a much better driver dropped in their lap and they didn’t ever really consider him to replace Lance.
Hes had 4 years to outperform Leclerk and hasn't done so. Hardly the greatest injustice in F1 to be replaced. He costs a lot and brings very little sponsorship which is why other teams werent very interested.
Mate, Santander only were throwing 50-60 mil in Ferrari sponsorship, he could've covered part if not all of Checos' paycheck to get his place. Also, there's Estrella and others as well.
I don’t think anyone thought he would beat Leclerc, but he deffinetly there when they need him, and was consistently just behind Leclerc, which is what Ferrari wanted.
@@claudiustanciu05m You’re crazy if you think Santander was spending $50-$60m because of Sainz. Even if he was a 10x WDC he wouldn’t be worth that much. The Spanish market just isn’t big enough to justify that.
i must say im very impressed by Sainz's turnaround. at the start of 2022 where the ferrari was at its best, sainz clearly struggled with the pointy front end and was miles behind leclerc who was fighting max. but he's clearly adapted (and the ferrari has adapted to him), and to be so close to leclerc in both qualifying and race trim is a genuine achievement.
I don't think lewis will do any better than him, i think in his current state of mind that the youngins have the edge over him and his age ofc, charles will beat him so bad that it'll eventually wear him out. Ferrari will regret this decision
Despite being a fan of Max, I would love Lewis to have his 8th WDC in Ferrari. The way things went down in AD 2021 was unfair and murky. The fault sorely lies with FIA (Maybe Latifi a bit 🤣), not Max, Lewis or RB.
@@88vfw Lewis keeps failing to make it out of Q1 in a Mercedes, when his teammate is challenging for pole at some tracks. Leclerc is gonna wipe the floor with him. Lewis has obviously just been losing motivation ever since 2021.
Injustice??? You did not follow his time at Ferrari close enough. He never finished above p5 in the championship with Ferrari. If Norris, Charles or George was available all the top teams would have signed them on the spot. He is not a team player. His and his entourage politics, the lack of true team spirit and especially not keeping pre race agreements make the team a toxic environment. He thinks he is the nr 1 driver. He does not have the talent to back up his ego.
That's a bit harsh, but has much truth in it. I disagree with the toxic environment, they got along with Leclerc well - maybe because despite the occasional shenanigans, Charles knew he can beat Carlos, and most of the time he did. But yeah, there was really no contest when shit got serious, like early 2022 or this year after Monza when there was a small glimpse of hope for a title fight. Until it was taken away in Singapore, Leclerc has beaten Sainz every race by quite a margin.
We've had 3 constructors champions and 3 drivers champions in the last 10 years of F1 alongside roughly 14ish teams and 53 drivers. It's hard enough to get a race win (or just a whole season of racing) never mind being in a position to win a championship.
Got what he deserved tbh, tried to play Ferrari by declaring he was looking elsewhere in Monza 23 and they mugged him off. Even had him doing sim work while Leclerc filmed his contract announcement video. Thought he was worth more than he actual is. He'll shine back in the midfield
This is honestly so good for Williams. Since I started watching they became my favorite underdog team and this lineup with Albon and Sainz is honestly a lineup that, with another car, could really win a lot and fight for the top. I expect points this year for Williams
I think Carlos is in a great place. He has helped improve every team he's been on, so I trust his experience, coupled with James' leadership, will consolidate Williams into regular point-scorers (so, top half of the pack) and eventually even retun it to podium contenders
"Injustice".. more like a reality check. He's a pretty good driver, but the fact that none of the top teams that had an empty seat wanted him, basically all except McLaren, says everything you need to know.
He’s one of the most technically gifted drivers on the grid, so any team who needs to improve would need someone like him. But he’s too good as number 2 driver. That’s the “injustice” we’re talking about new fan
@@sandalphoncpuwhat part of "none of the big teams wanted him" is unclear to you? He may be all the things you say to fans, but clearly all top teams wanted something else
@@TunedIntoCars sounds like you know more than we publics know. What does that quote say everything you need to know? That’s more vague than a blind grandma pointing at a wall saying my home is over there
@@lcwpg He has just spent a season doing everything he can to try and get Ferrari the constructors championship. If I ran a team, that is as much as you could ask for.
@RatluBoogerbag don't forget he is paid to drive for the team and win for the team and win for himself.. it's part of a contract and be professional This is his chance to lead Williams and show what he can do even Williams not a front runner
He would've been perfect in Aston Martin, if it wasn't for one individual.....
That’s why I’m glad they have managed to turn their car into a donkey this year. They don’t deserve to have a competitive one with Lance on one side of the garage
Exactly
He would be perfect for Red Bull, if it wasn't for how scared they are he might devalue their greatest product (Max).
Doris, the tea lady?
Alonso
Lance Stroll is the problem , Sainz and Alonso (two Spaniards on top of that) at Astin , with Newey coming in would of given them an interesting title shot for 2026
You mean Lawrence stroll. Anyone else running that team would've dropped stroll Jr a while ago
@@TunedIntoCars but also, anyone else wouldn´t have brought Cardile, Cowell AND Newey into 1 team.
Well, maybe if Lance wasn't there, there would be 2 less seats. He's not the problem. Sainz should've done better.
Lawrence Stroll is the reason they are looking like they could be genuine challengers in a few years. If he wants to put his clearly disinterested son in as a driver and embarrass him every few months that's upto him. But no Lance, no title chance.
@@As-qz5lr bars?!
Sainz looking at the FW46: I can fix her.
Reminder, he is a workaholic, very technically minded, has actually surprised Ferrari with his willingness to go above and beyond at the factory, is well respected by engineers from all teams he was at previously and, whilst correlation ain't causation, lest we forget, while he was at both McLaren and Ferrari they improved massively from a technical perspective. He can provide feedback, he does understand the specifics of multiple frontrunner cars and he has proven capable of adapting to multiple different vehicle characteristics, not to mention his strategic abilities.
Williams finally improving their internal methodologies by switching to a proper parts tracking solution from Excel alongside other investments will likely benefit massively from Sainzs experience and talent.
This is not the 1960s, driver feedback is just a small piece of the car development. if the rest is trash, he will keep fall in every Q1 session in 2025.
@exp2745 These narratives are strange... Sainz is Spanish Bottas - did Bottas fix Sauber??
Listening to Guenther Steiner’s book at the moment and he describes Carlos’ father (whom he worked with in rallying) in almost the same terms.
Ferrari were on the up no matter who drove for them because the only reason they were slow in 2020 was due to an engine punishment, but in 2019 they were a front running team and the 2022 regulations allowed them to go back to that level.
I think they're having even something new, like a wind tunnel or simulator coming in short time.
No: The great injustice is Stroll occupying a seat and Perez still in a Red Bull
Perez is all but gone. They're just trying to figure out how it'll get done since he's currently tied up with a long term contract
Pérez is gone
@vinytind Yeah no. No driver would prefer a slow car like the Williams over a top 3-4 car.
-perez +sainz
Stroll senior is the problem. I can't understand why he's wasting his money. If he was serious about it all, Stroll jr would be gone.
Sainz going to Williams for a few years could be awesome for the team. I think the Williams outlook is looking really bright
It, objectively, isn't.
I hope inner look is as bright as outlook
Interesting outlook and I hope he helps propel the team upward. And in the meanwhile, maybe a spot at another team will open up
Hopefully. We need Santander Money for future developments. Also, hopefully crashes will be less with Carlos. Man 17 crashes is really painful
Copium, Williams will never amount to anything again after BMW.
He would have been perfect for AM, if they weren't a daycare for Stroll.
AM is where they are primarily because their car is crap. No amount of talent can fix that (And no, the example of Verstappen 2024 does not count - the RB20 was still the 3rd best car on the grid even at its worst.) They and Sauber are the only teams that have failed to gain anything of much significance from post-Spring upgrades. Stroll is by no means a great driver, but he's not terrible either.
@@pao_2031 Stroll is definitely the worst veteran on the grid now. Just as an example, which driver with more than a seasons experience would you rate lower than Stroll?
@@jvomkriegPerez easily worse than Stroll.
Every driver struggles to drive cars built around Alonso’s feedback.
Kimi, Button, Vandoorne, Massa… no guarantees that Sainz would do better than 2 WDCs.
@@paperplane-db8qf150 points with the 2nd-3rd fastest car on the grid isn’t as bad as 24 points with the 5th fastest. And Checo floored Stroll with same machinery. The only teammate Stroll has outperformed was Sirotkin, so yes maybe he is complete shit and made Checo look even better than he was.
I'm hoping this will be like Kimi on his lotus era, no one expected a thing but they still able to secure midfield & Consistently score points.
i hope sainz got a Kimi lotus era contract with bonuses based on points lol.
Except Kimi was a World Champion, and Sainz is a midtier driver at best
Long term, I love what James is doing with Williams so seeing two really talented drivers at them makes me really happy
carlos is one, the other?? albono talented??? lol
Will certainly be interesting to compare Albon to Sainz next year. Albon hasn't had real competition in several seasons.
Well, one at least now that Sainz is there.
I think it is great for Williams that for the first time since 2016 they have two decent drivers and not at least one pay driver/bad one.
My appreciation and support for Carlos have grown over time. He is an incredible driver and a better professional. He takes his job very seriously and looks motivated for the future. He wants to become a world champion really bad. I have much respect for him.
I had no idea they were so close in qualifying, roughly a tenth off Leclerc is in all honesty quite impressive, considering he is a qualifying wizard.
Me too, never thought he was that close?
I honestly expect him to be fighting for points each race next year. As he's the kinda driver that'll drag the car up to grid higher than it should be.
I always wonder if it's the car or the driver. It'll be interesting to see. Hypothetically, could max verstappen win a race in a Williams? I've recently started getting into f1 and I'm catching up on everything 😅
@@NeilSharksNah, not even Max could win races in a Williams, but he might well drag it a few places further up the field. Historically, Williams have been one of the top teams in F1, but for the past couple of decades they've slipped further and further behind. Will be good to see them come back though!
@@M4R7YN Claire Williams effect. They will succeed, just look at McLaren, they were in a very bad place in 2015-2017 and dragged themselves up.
@@NeilSharks it is a bit of both, but the only way even someone like Max wins in a Williams is if some very weird things happen. You need a good car to win, but also a good driver.
That’s what Albon has been doing
sainz builds beautiful stories wherever he goes. sainz+williams is going to be a beautiful story
.037 off Charles this season for quali is kinda nuts. There's been so many sessions where I've seen them be a few thousandths off each other. Imo Carlos definitely doesn't get enough credit for his qualifying pace.
who is like tracking credit? is there like a credit bank?
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I imagine that Sainz will be Williams' valuable asset in terms of its performance during next season and also for the seasons beyond next year as I think he will bring quite a lot of good feedback to the table and help the team build a progressively better car
Alonso hasn't deserved to spend most of his career busting his ass to get out of Q1 but it is what it is.
Looks like the "S" in "Spain" truly is silent
And yet he still sticks to midfield teams 10 years on. Makes you wonder if he is scared of being found out by top teammates
@@JoeVer-d6vYou’re not very bright are you? He tried desperately to get in the RBR next to Max and Max told RBR not to sign him. Dude scored literally 4x more points than Raikkonen as teammates and nearly blanked him in races and qualifying. Unlike Hamilton, he can drive anything, not just great cars.
@@The_ZeroLine as I said, 10 years ago. A world champion should have little to no roadblocks going back to a top team, especially for this long. Clearly he doesn't want to
@@JoeVer-d6v Well, let’s see, Ferrari had Charles Leclerc and Vettel when he came back. No space. He tried to go to Red Bull for this season. No dice. He tried to go to Mercedes for this season. No dice. So, what exactly are you talking about?
Every move Carlos has ever had to make has been forced upon him rather than being one of his own making, however each time it has worked out for him.
You have to chalk some of that down to luck, but the rest has to be that he can get the best out of what he is given and can actively improve any team he's a part of.
Err he chose to leave McLaren for Ferrari and chose to leave Renault for McLaren 🤔
Maybe this is an unpopular opinion but Carlos has fallen upwards every time he's left a team and has arguably never been the "first" driver on any teams he's been on. In Torro Rosso Max was clearly better, at Renault Hulkenburg was slightly better, at McLaren Carlos was slightly better than a rookie Lando but it was clear that long term Norris would be better, and at Ferrari Leclerc is clearly better and has scored over 120 more points than Sainz. No doubt Carlos os a good driver but he is not elite and has been very lucky to have gotten in with a better team each driver switch. I just think this is a normal correction to the course of his career.
Didn’t Ferrari offer him a two year extension but stated he only wanted a long contract which wasn’t gonna happen
@@ndlovulwazi From what I remember, Ferrari offered him a one year extension and Carlos wanted at least 2 years. It was pretty clear that Ferrari were going to go in a different direction in 2026 with new regulations coming in but Hamilton changed that for them.
@dominicbaun4217 he list his seat in both of those situations to Daniel Ricciardio. Not exactly his choice
We have to stop with the "Sainz is regretting williams move" thing now. Williams is a project that will succeed under vowels. McLaren turned it around, hass is doing it too. Williams will do it. Also Sainz is coming there after driving a ferrari. He knows what made that car second in constructors, he will tell the williams engineers that. If not 2025 then 2026, but I think the Williams project with James, Albon and Sainz will definitely succeed. Williams will be a smooooooooooooth operatiooon soooon
Williams is still way behind, infrastructure wise. Didn't help that all their crashes this year undoubtedly had an effect on their resources.
You might be right, and I desperately hope that you are.
To be honest, this has been my sentiment too. Just need to give it some time.
No chance, their facilities are probably the most outdated on the grid. I can see Williams being competitive in the future but definitely not 2026, at the earliest 2030.
I wish I could believe this, but with the budget nightmare at Williams that will undoubtedly hinder development, lackluster facilities, and that promise that's been made every year, that THIS is the year, Carlos is skating uphill and more likely to leave before that team finds a way to at least get to the midfield.
I am a huge Williams fan. I really hope to see Carlos and the team grow together and climb up the ladder.
Aside from Williams and Hamilton, I feel like Carlos leaving Ferrari is breaking apart the best duo on the grid. It's been said to death, but Carlos and Charles are perfect side by side. And when you showed that Carlos has earned about 90% of Charles points total over his career, I think it's proof of how good he is. I don't think Hamilton is washed, not that Williams is hopeless, but the Ferrari-Charles-Carlos trio was a very strong one and they may come to regret tearing it apart.
Hamilton is the opposite, he has the ego of a 7-WDC but is he still as good as one? He just lost to Russell. He could get away with calling his car garbage every weekend and Toto will still kiss his a** but I don't think that will go down well at Ferrari.
to be fair, if lewis retired in 3 yrs, sainz will only be 33, they could potentially bring him back if he wants to go at that point.
@@As-qz5lr Hamilton actually outscored Russell this year, and has won over him 2 out of the 3 years they were together. regardless of how ppl act, Russell is easily a top 6-7 driver on the grid, and the car was obviously designed more around Russell this year as he is mercedes future. Lewis has proved multiple times this year that when hes confident in the car he can still fight for wins. hell be fine at ferrari, or at least as good as Sainz id bet
You need to learn to add mate@@TheRealDieYoung
@@TheRealDieYoung He didn't outscore Russell despite having fewer mechanical issues leading to DNFs.
I think Sainz will pull up trees at Williams, I think a shock podium will crop up somewhere and regular top 10 finishes, which for Williams will be just the motivation and drive they'll need heading into 2026.
Maybe even a shock win. Look if Maldonado can do it, then Sainz can too.
i would love to see williams in the podium again, but lets be real, is not going to happen
@@wolfgangvan-uber6515 Well, that Williams scored 76 points, a tally current Williams can only dream about
VAMOS CARLOS
You think do you?
Carlos is my most favourite driver because he is: fast thinker, very approachable, understand things that people may take with a pinch of salt, can plan better than the whole team and he is highly reliable when something goes wrong for the other driver
yes, sainz is not the fastest but probably is the smartest driver. It's a very solid driver and i hope him the best but always forza ferrari ;)
Genuinely still staggered Ferrari opted to destabilise their own lineup for short term headlines with LH. Sainz well and truly stiffed when he should’ve been at Ferrari for another 4 or 5 seasons.
@danpaton9744 Sainz will never become a WC, he is a good number 2 driver, just like Bottas
you think switching from a few race winner to a 7 time world champion is crazy? new to the sport??
Oh that’s funny. Sainz had 4 years at Ferrari and delivered 4 wins. Ferrari have won bugger all since Kimi and decided to find a better driver, who just so happened to be available .A driver who with Fred as TP, previously won both the F3 and GP 2 Championships together. It’s a shame that Sainz lost his seat, but given the fact that McLaren, RBR, Mercedes or AM offered him a seat tells you everything you need to know.
Isnt that a good thing? You want a sainz to be with leclerc, not hamilton who will only cause issues as he will want to be no1. @@alessandro88-g9h
Just the traditional Ferrari strategy. :D
Instead of being pessimistic about him going to Williams, I want to look on the bright side: Wewill get to see Carlos Sainz's contributions be part of the effort to turn Williams around from their costly 2024 season. That is what we are guaranteed to see him do, and only time will tell if Williams turnaround is a success.
If Williams and Carlos Sainz does pull back into the midfield fight, this will be a nice hat trick for Carlos Sainz, which will make it three for three historic legacy F1 teams he was a part of assisting them in their pull up back to relevancy.
After beginning his career in the high pressure Red Bull Junior team partnering Max Verstappen, he was moved to Renault as part of an agreement between Red Bull and Renault back then. I believe his experiences at these two teams nurtured his mindset and independence.
He joined McLaren in 2019, after a disappointing 2018 year for them, and he, along with teammate Lando Norris, began pushing McLaren back into the midfield.
The second time he brought a team back from poor form was Ferrari, where he joined in 2021, after their crippling 2020 season.
Hopefully, his time at Williams will also be bringing back this team into the midfield fight.
For my bonus wishlist for what I do want to se Carlos Sainz and Williams do
It will be great to see him sneak the Williams onto the Podium, McLaren Brazil 2019 and Ferrari Hungary 2021 style.
Even better if he can strategise a Williams Race win, just like what he did for Ferrari in Singapore 2023.
Really being generous to Sainz in saying he was relevant to Ferrari's pull up back to relevancy, when the only reason they were down out of a top 3 spot was because of the sanctions they took due to the illegal engine they ran in 2019. This heavily compromised the car for 2020 and the 2021 regs limited heavily what you can change on the car so they couldn't make a massive leap and they still had several podiums and even could've won a race (Monaco) had Leclerc been able to start the race. Since the new regs they've been back to top 3. So in reality Ferrari had a single nightmare year and was never out of relevancy otherwise.
Watch him pull off a miraculous podium next season.
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if his feedback does come in handy and williams can have decent car with minimum crashes monza is where it is perfectly plausible for him to have a podium or top 5 finish at least the track is historically great for williams and sainz also performs well there
he is driving a williams ,no podiums for them
On F1 25 maybe
I have some sympathy for Carlos, but I think it has to be pointed out that if he had just stayed at McLaren and backed them he probably would have won a constructors championship this year and would have possible drivers championship machinery. I know hindsight is 20/20 but Carlos has been ruthless at times too.
I think Carlos would have put up a better championship battle than Lando, as he is better at thinking on his feet. But as many have said, you don't refuse Ferrari.
@@the_lost_navigator7266Sainz crashed out at Canada, Baku, Brazil and Singapore Q2.
Let’s not pretend like he’s been flawless.
@@paperplane-db8qfnobody is pretending he’s flawless? they’re just highlighting a quality about sainz, which is that he’s good at thinking at his feet.
He is not flawless but sainz can overtakes verstappen while Lando cant
@@paperplane-db8qf He's not flawless, but he's fairly intelligent and can think quick in the middle of a race, like in Singapore 2023, when he held onto his victory by slowing down and keeping Lando in his DRS as a buffer against the faster mercedes cars behind.
Let out the largest exhale and rolled my eyes when Stroll came up lmao
Carlos is a good driver and with Alex gives Williams a strong driver lineup. Hopefully they can work to bring the team back to glory, eventually.
Reminds me of Enea Bastianini going from the best motogp team down to the secondary ktm team, all the while the washed Franco Morbidelli stays at a Ducati team…
How is Leclerc washed? 😂
@@lambolim2178 Perez and Stroll
It genuinely upsets me just how bad fm is how does he deserve that seat!?!?
@@lambolim2178 I think he means Perez and Stroll
Between the top four, Enea was clearly the worst performer and I say that as an Enea fan. He wasn't getting the factory Ducatti seat again and his ego didn't let him take a satellite seat again and keep a Ducatti for next season. I am sure they'd love to have him at Gresini and he'd get the third GP25 over Fabio. His own choice to end up on a factory KTM (the satelite team will effectively be a second KTM factory team, at least before the financial woes that was the plan at the time).
I think Williams will progress significantly next season, having the input of both Carlos & Alex will push the teams progress forward.
Alex 😂😂😂
He would have been a perfect fit for Aston Martin...
But unfortunately one driver over there has a lifetime contract for sentimental reasons...
Alex is going to need to step up his game with Carlos in the stable now. Williams will be even more motivated.
Calling this an injustice is an over-the-top exaggeration. He is simply unlucky owing to the timing of Hamilton's exit announcement. That's it. There are no guarantees in this sport. He's not the first talented driver to end up in a back marker team, and certainly won't be the last.
Spot on
Yep, I don't know why mercedes or redbull didn't take him
It's not like there was no seat available at Mercedes.
Reigning World Champion Damon Hill at Arrows in 1996 springs to mind!
Yep. There’s no injustice here, just reality.
I'm anticipating that Sainz will show that Albon is not as fast as he perhaps believes he is. Albon has only had Latifi and Sargent as measuring sticks, and Colapinto's initial speed proved that Albon wasn't as dominant as many perhaps thought.
I hope Sainz has success at Williams, simply because he has found himself out of a Ferrari drive (that was not down to underperformance) and he deserves something good to go his way. He works hard, is fast, and hopefully finds a seam of good results that propels him back into a top team in 2027.
Toto didn't want Lewis testing for Ferrari because it was Lewis's input in Mercedes cars in 2018/2019/2020 that made Mercedes win these championships. Toto Wolff admitted to this in a recent interview. For the history of Ferrari, they are underachieving.
Bro, Carlos Sainz sr. has always been the most driven and hardest working driver out there and his son is no different. He truly needs a team that can realize his potential.
The issue is he’s not fast enough to be a number 1 a top team can pin their hopes on but is also too assertive to do the Bottas/Perez job. There’s nowhere for him at the top.
Obviously he’s a better fit than Stroll for Aston but then does that mean they’re not backing Alonso as much?
He’s plenty fast enough to be a number 1 problem is the top teams bring guys up through the ranks and keep them. Max was a RB kid, Norris was a McLaren kid, Charles was a Ferrari kid, Russell been a Mercedes kid same with Andrea.
@@zacharyradford5552 Yeah, because it's really a problem to keep Max, the best to ever do it, instead of going for a chump like Sainz. Wake up and smell the coffee, Sainz is nowhere near Max' level, never was and never will be.
As a Williams fan, I'm happy.
As an F1 fan, I'm happy.
As Sainz Jr. fan ... I get it, it's hard to swallow.
Hope to see Williams on podiums again.
I'm predicting regular points finishes and a podium finish next season for Sainz.
Lecrerc was the chosen one for Ferrari. Can you imagine the greatness of what Sainz has done considering that little detail that everyone knows but everyone denies? Winning a race while convalescing from an operation says it all. Sainz's loyalty and his silence with Lecrerc have been anthological.
Lawrence Stroll needs to give his son some tough love and kick him out. If he doesn't really want this bad enough to put effort in and drive well, then he shouldn't be there.
I think every F1 fan wants to see Sainz and Williams succeed and fight for wins sooner rather than later
Sainz never seriously considered by RB since he comes with a Jos of his own, else he would still driving for RB. RB can tolerate Jos being insufferable because of Max.
Jos thinks and acts like he's a legend, sainz snr is a legend and is total respect from everyone on the grid, except jos shock
At this point that's just a lame excuse. Red Bull if they really wanted, that wouldn't be an issue. They just don't want a consistent driver, that has proven to adapt well to many cars, next to Max.
Max is already explosive without having a teammate pressuring him, imagine with a teammate that made him sweat or doesn't immediately get out of the way? Red Bull doesn't want to deal with that. They are fully centered around Max, to the point of sacrificing the constructor's title, which is ridiculous. Especially since Max doesn't need this protection, he has more than enough talent to deal with anyone they pair him with.
@@solduspythonfacts
The inter-father friction when Max and Carlos were together and TR mostly came from the Verstappen side. Jos doesn't just dislike Sainz Sr., it's any driver he sees as any kind of threat to Max.
@@solduspython Agreed. Jos was an average F1 driver whose most famous moment of his career was being on fire, whilst Sainz Sr. is a certified rally legend.
The thing that still doesn't make sense is that Mercedes (or Toto) didn't sign Sainz and prefer a kid like Antonelli that still hasn't proved that he had what it takes to be in F1. Even the situation isn't fair for the F2 champion and runner-up: Bortoleto is going to Sauber, the last team of the grid, and Hadjar only had a test with Red Bull but nothing else, while Antonelli has a place in a top team without having a great season in F2, winning only a race and a sprint and finishing in 6th position.
Sainz is roughly a Russell level driver. A bit slower most likely. Why would they get rid of Lewis for a second Russell? They’re taking a swing for the fences with Kimi while waiting for Max to become a free agent.
Sainz improved a lot over his 4 seasons with Ferrari. To begin with he was no match for Leclerc but by the end of it they were both top drivers. Leclerc meanwhile has barely moved along his goal path from superstar signing to being a realistic contender for world champion.
Ferrari didn't give him the tools to be world champion in 2022the actually sabotaged him and this season this season Ferrari fought for a title because redbull was racing in reality with 1 car
Leclerc has improved himself, it was just less obvious because his standard has been set high already. While he still has the odd hiccup and struggles a bit in certain car setups, he's had a 50% podium rate this year and finished almost every race in the top 5. That includes a race from 19th to 3rd.
He's become more assertive with his team (something people heavily criticized him for being too meek), his tyre managment is excellent and he's still been very quick in qualifying (I think he got like 2 or 3 poles this season) despite the car struggling with tyre warmup and having weaker qualy pace this year. Ferrari also have had compromised cars since these new regs (2022 - reliability, TD mandating higher floor edges, 2023 - race pace suffering due to a tyre-chomping car characteristic, 2024 - strong race pace but weak qualifying prowess due to difficult tyre warmup car quirk).
If 2025 Ferrari gives him a quick and balanced car without any obvious shortcomings you will see him at his full potential and I expect nothing less than a title fight from him.
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Only 10% less points than Leclerc is really impressive.
Especially given that Ferrari clearly favors Leclerc as their golden boy.
With equal treatment Sainz might just have the same amount of points as Leclerc.
As a williams fan, im sure he's happy :)
Does anyone else have that feeling Williams will be fighting for podiums over the next few years. Investment, drivers, staff, all heading back to the glory days?
I think Williams are a dark horse and shouldn't be ruled out. They've invested heavily in their facilities, signed Carlos and don't need pay drivers anymore.
Are they really? Teams don't exist in a vacuum, their position is relative to the rest of the grid. You could do a really good job improving your team and still lag behind because other simply did better or had more potential to begin with.
Williams is still tiny compared to most of the grid, everyone is making heavy investements and pretty much all teams have good lineups now. It'll help them in a fight for P7 against the rest of the minnows (Haas, RB, Sauber), but with Alpine getting their shit back together and AM doing a decent job they're really still nowhere near where they should be given their pedigree. For 2026 again even if the Mercedes engine is dominant they'll be up against the factory, a resurgent McLaren and an Alpine that has proven can fix their car even when they fuck up. Best they can hope for is a 2014 type of season and Sainz knows that will not be enough for him.
I thought we moved on from this narrative already. Yeah it sucks for Carlos cause he did nothing terribly wrong to warrant being replaced, but the fact that it takes Lewis Hamilton to replace you is an indicator of how good you are. With Carlos’ mentality and work ethic, I can see top teams still keeping an eye on him to scoop him up if the opportunity presents itself and Williams doesn’t progress fast enough to match Carlos’ peak.
People forget that after Ferrari, its Williams that is the most successful team on the grid.
Ferrari is competitive now, they were not when Sainz came in. Infact Sainz even beat Charles in their first season together in that shitbox
That was a long time ago. Last WDC and WCC was in 1997 with Adrian Newey designing the cars through the 90s, once he left the success followed him to McLaren. Frank Williams & Patrick Head are long gone too. F1 requires way more money than what independent team can generate (unless they get the backing of another billionaire like Lawrence Stroll).
Just because Binotto massively fucked up a championship challenging team doesn’t mean Ferrari were not competitive.
It’s not like Sainz magically turned it around. And he only beat LeClerc due to luck and reliability issues.
We're talking about now, not a billion years ago.
Leclerc has been stronger at complaining on the radio to be put in front, so not really a fair comparison between the two. I thought Carlos killed it this year, and they got rid of the wrong driver...
Imagine if Toyota take over Haas and signs Carlos Sainz....and wins two Driver's titles....
As a Williams fan, I cannot wait to have another experienced driver on the team. Hopefully less crashes too!
Spot on, I feel something that hasn’t been mentioned about Carlos is that he is one of the most humble professionals in the grid never going into too much drama like we are used to with the usuals at the top. He has always has been a good team mate overall. An example is VER he made Redbull win the drivers Championship that gives Redbull "directly" 0 cash but has trashed all his team mates mentally RIC,ALB,GAS,PER... These drivers arrive to this team as a talented hope and exit the team as Jokes. I can only imagine how the team meetings are, how he will fight to get the car to perform to HIS driver style and not looking for the team. Red Bull lost $220M becasue of Redbull allowing ego take over a TEAM. This is why I value Sainz as a Driver and this is very important for a F1 team.
Maybe this makes commercial sense from Ferrari's perspective, with sponsorship and everything, but from the outside it looks like a sporting misstep. Hamilton won't be significantly faster than Sainz, if at all, and there is much more risk of him upsetting the team dynamic. Hamilton isn't getting younger, and he has even indicated recently that he isn't sure if his lack of pace at Mercedes this year (versus Russell, who dominated him in qualifying) is down to the car or his own performance. He has also shown a tendency to develop damaging internal rivalries (Alonso, Rosberg), and tis move introduces an odd dynamic, Leclerc being the junior driver from an F1 perspective but very much the more established team member and someone with championship-winning potential. Leclerc will feel that Ferrari owe him priority, or at least equal treatment. In short: there is a significant downside risk for Ferrari with Hamilton's arrival, with very little upside, in a sporting sense.
Everyone is like "it's so unfair Hamilton took his seat, karma this, karma that".
Meanwhile Red Bull snubs him for the second time. And this time he's proven to be consistent in 4 different cars, has experience, has beaten talented teammates, helped the teams he was on to grow in performance and consistency.
But apparently it's Hamilton that has to receive the wrath of karma, while Red Bull having a second driver made of jelo, doesn't even look twice to Sainz as an option. Which is ridiculous.
He was now a free agent, already worked with Max, already worked with Red Bull. His consistency would be perfect for RB in the constructor's. What do they do? Don't even consider him. All because they don't want to bother Max. They prefer to have a doormat as a second driver so they don't have to deal with Max's attitude soon Sainz did not got out of the way.
I wouldn't be surprised if there's something in verstappens contract that gives him a lot of power over who's in the second seat. He likes having a punching bag for a teammate and it makes him look better than he really is.
People think that because max is dominating perez, he must be invincible 😂 Mick Schumacher dominated Mazepin in 2021, and then got beat comfortably by magnussen in 2022. Magnuessen is then beat convincingly by Hulkenberg in 23 and 24. Neither max or red bull want a competent driver in that seat out of fear of the golden child being exposed.
Red-Bull's biggest asset this year was Verstappen, (maybe Hannah Schmidtz but she gets the benefit of only focusing on maximising Verstappen's points). Why would they sacrifice that for a driver Ferrari dismissed?
@@andrewmelton2686 don't think he'd be able to, considering they already raced each other one season and got convincingly beat by max. he'd sure as hell be a great no2 driver and 100% better than poorez, but I don't think that's the role he wants to fulfill in a top team as evident with ferrari
@@Astoswoidaconvincingly ? When?
Sainz was quicker by 2 tenths than Albon in testing, first time in the car. Impressive!
I personally think Williams and Carlos got a great deal here and I wouldn't be surprised if one day Carlos says it was the best move he ever made.
James is one of the new TP's and he is building Williams from the ground upwards. That means they will be innovating everything.
From previous interviews with James and Alex, you get the sense that he listens and values his drivers input. He's mentioned several times that Alex has spent a lot of his time helping his team mates, supporting them and even giving them advice on turns, gears etc. This is something you don't hear often.
So thinking about it, out of Carlos and Lewis. I feel Carlos won't have the political house of cards like they do at Ferrari. He can put himself into the team and 2026 car.
Some rule changes must be done about paid/sponsored seat such as Stroll/ Yuki.
This aint f2/f3.
Rather disingenuous to not mention that he was offered a year's extension to his contract by Ferrari but he turned it down as he was holding out for more. That tactic is what cost him his seat as, when Lewis suddenly became available, Sainz was the one left without a seat in the game of driver musical chairs. I fear he's also made a huge mistake going to Williams rather than Sauber/Audi. Forget where Sauber are now and remember that Audi have made a huge success of pretty much every category of motorsport they've entered. Time may not be on his side but I still feel Audi will be winning races before Williams.
So it is Sainz’s fault that Ferrari had a fanboy moment and went for the bright shiny thing? Victim blaming of a sort. Bizarre.
@@thesmallerhalf1968how is it victim blaming 😂 if he'd taken a year extension he'd be at Ferrari next year
Whether or not Ferrari should have signed Lewis isn't the issue. The fact is that Sainz left himself open to being replaced by any other driver by virtue of playing hardball over his contract while Leclerc had already signed his. He gambled and lost and is at least partially culpable in all of this, something completely omitted in this video.
I agree with the first part but not the second part. Sauber seem unprepared and all rumours are that the Audi engine is also a disaster which will be down on power too. Binotto himself has said he has no hope for the Audi to be the best engine and that the engine is far behind and it will be simply about minimising the power deficit IIRC.
Accepting a 1 year deal is just kicking the can down the road. Ferrari, only being willing to offer a 1 year deal at most shows Sainz that they don't consider him a long-term prospect.
Honestly, a 2 year deal for 2025 and 2026 would've been great for both parties. Keeping Sainz just for 2025, then replacing him in 2026 means their new driver won't be up to speed with the team for the regulation change.
Kinda crazy that they went with Hamilton instead of Sainz, but Hamilton is more for marketing than his speed I guess, they already know Leclerc is their number 1 and Lewis won't trouble him, which Sainz did... occasionally.
Reminds me of when Boutsen had to move from Williams to Ligier back in the day
Its all on Redbull, Carlos Sainz is undoubtedly the perfect replacement for Sergio Perez but now RB are too late so they now have to rely on Lawson an unexperienced rookie whos not impressed in the races hes been in & disregarding Yuki because of Honda. Carlos Sainz going to Williams will be very good for Williams to move into the upper midfield I do believe James Vowles has made a perfect move & done Redbull in a way. Redbull have basically had their pants pulled down with Sainz going to Williams and only now deciding Perez isnt good enough
They never wanted him. Pérez proved he wasn't good enough by the midpoint of the year. Sainz even postponed his decision because of Red Bull, still they tried to play him, like they did back when he was at Renault, forbiding him from renewing with them and forcing him to go back to Toro Rosso.
If they truly wanted him, they would immediately jump on the opportunity. Remember, they renewed Pérez when he was on the worse slump of performance of the season. Not in the beginning when he was doing ok. No. At the exact point he was being the worse driver, "here, have some more years with us".
Its all on Ferrari. It has nithing to do with Red Bull
No not worse slump of the season but worse slump in the history of F1.
RedBull fucked him over before he went to Ferrari.
@@The_Curious_CatI do agree about the Perez contract but I think they only did it because they thought he would come back in the season and that this when their cars' fundamental issues weren't exposed and they didn't much about the problems. I don't think Redbull knew Perezs form would get so bad and probably thought giving him a new contract would help him out in confidence, clearly it hasnt
Embarrassing Assessment Of REDBULL When You Have Absolutely NO CLUE WHAT IS GOING ON THEIR. Just Incredible Arrogance. 🤯🙈
It's not unfair by any stretch, he has had issues with team mates and powerplay moves in the team, big teams not wanting to upset the balance is justified too.
what issues with teammates? got on very well with lando and charles lol. he's had some issues with the team, but so has leclerc
No issues with Lando Norris or Charles Leclerc. Just Max. Strange that...
@@AlexConnor_don't think it was max himself even, more like Max's dad
I want to go out on a limb and say, depending on contract terms, if Carlos show immediate pace in the Williams, Stroll may feel pressure inside and out to give his sons seat to Carlos. One thing we scan over with Stroll is that he refuses to give anyone around his son’s age a seat. Overpaying for past champions can only last so long since the grid is getting younger. We’ll definitely see a more wreckless stroll if the rookies come in and show better pace.
Sainz feels like Alonso without the titles, jumping from team to team before they got good. If he had stayed at Redbull or McLaren he would not be in this situation
"If he stayed at Red Bull". lol what? If he stayed at Red Bull (in Toro Rosso that is) he would be another footnote in F1. They never gave him a chance at the main seat, not even after proving he has talent and is consistent in different cars.
What makes you think they would give him a chance if he stayed? Since the excuse they are using now is it's because of Jos and Sainz Sr. that he's not in Red Bull?
The guy proved to be good at Renault, they forced him to go back to Toro Rosso. The guy proves to be good at McLaren and Ferrari, plus is a free agent, they don't even consider him. They don't want him. Which is ridiculous, unfair and a bunch of (red) bull.
@@The_Curious_CatSainz wasn’t good at Renault. He got destroyed by Hulkenberg
Sainz is not a WDC level driver. Just look at 2022 where LeClerc was fighting Max and Perez while Sainz was getting beaten by Russell and Hamilton.
Honestly 2022 Perez was somehow a better driver than Sainz.
Even this season - Sainz crashed out in Brazil, Baku, Canada, Singapore Q2. Ferrari could’ve probably won the constructors if it wasn’t for all these huge errors. Like usually top driver would crash out once a season.
@@paperplane-db8qf Sainz was closer to Leclerc, than Piastri was to Norris... He did lose a few points, sure, but every driver makes mistakes. The McLaren was a faster package overall, and the constructors battle only existed because of McLaren throwing away so many points across the season.
@@doghat1619 Let's be honest, Redbull (Perez) threw away the constructors, McLaren and Ferrari just picked up the pieces.
And ... while driving at full tilt, he's a better strategist than anyone on the pit wall!
I wish Mercedes would have put him in their car and put Kimi in the Williams for a year or two like they did with George.
Toto has been chasing Max instead.
I think James Vowles did not want a driver on loan. He has stated he wants stability so he can do his best to move Williams to the front of the grid.
Wasn’t going to happen, George is on a 1+1 contract, and Carlos wasn’t going to sign for one year. Hopefully they re-up George and Kimi pans out.
I like how Carlos is motivated to lead a team to success and he really means it. So many times drivers say things that they dont really believe in just so they get hired or get an opportunity.
I am sure Albon and Carlos have already talked on how to handle their own prides while driving and thats the thing. Carlos is very efficient with communication.
I just hope Carlos doesn’t fall off of patience. Even 7 yrs is still young considering Alonso is 43.
He would have fit well at red bull…
Really? Sainz has never struck me as being an insufferable a**hole...but maybe he could change.
@@Mox2077 so vettel was?
@@Mox2077He's also never struck me as a world champion, and that definitely won't change.
@@Mox2077 Whoa watch out for this tough guy
If you known Carlos snr you understand Carlos jnr. Williams are playing down their potential in 25 but it’s unlikely to be anything like last couple of years. Albon will raise his game, they all will, Carlos will bring new drive to the whole team just at the right time.
0 self awareness, 0 self respect, Lance Stroll is unbelievable
james vowles says that the lineup sainz and albon is the best as they both are fast and consistent veterans. they dont wanna sign any more rookies like zak o sullivan or luke browning because they would be inconsistent like sargeant or colapinto last season, leading to just repairing cars all night to race. they both dont crash too often so this is a good thing for williams to be with 2 veterans in their lineup.
It’s ironic how Ferrari sabotaged Vettel out of the team for “financial reasons” and focusing on younger drivers, while they sacked the younger driver they replaced Vettel with for a much older driver that demanded higher pay and an ambassador role for no logical reason. They’re not going anywhere are they? Watching Ferrari is like watching Netflix, you always had to wait for the next season
Well, the fans always talk about next year, so i guess it's ingrained into that team.
Kinda like how Gunther signed Mazepin and Schumacher cuz "Haas needs younger talent," and then fired them both because "Haas needs experienced veterans." These teams are run by monkeys.
I'm a big fan of Carlos because of his racecraft and teamwork and how he's been steadily removing mistakes from his driving and improving the areas where he had a deficit to his teammate. I think the real question in his move to Williams is Albon. We are penciling them into a repeat performance from Alex plus a bundle of points from Carlos translating into 6th in the championship but Albon has been on easy street for years with no pressure at all from Latifi and Sargeant so it will be interesting to see how he reacts to being beaten by his teammate from time to time.
Injustice? What are you on about? Everyone is where they belong. Did he deserve something better? He should've done better.
That's absolute nonsense.
Lewis belongs in prison for being Diddy's best friend.
I’m actually not convinced that Norris and Piastri is a better lineup than Albon and Sainz. I think Sainz is better than both drivers as he seems to be very consistent getting the max out of his car, and at this point Albon is probably better than Piastri.
Bottas was in a similar situation when he left Mercedes
Big strategic miss on Aston Martin behalf by not snatching him up because of nepotism. They had a much better driver dropped in their lap and they didn’t ever really consider him to replace Lance.
Lewis should be at Williams and Carlos at Ferrari . Leclerc is gonna school him .
The amount of cope in this comment is hilarious
@@samuelcharles7647 Lewis is the most overrated athlete on the planet.
@@quigglyz okay and? I didn’t ask for a opinion I’m stating facts. This comment is clear coping at its finest
Wishing Carlos the best of luck 🍀
Beggars cant be choosers. Carlos would rather drive in a shitty car than not at all.
But he did choose. He went to Williams instead of Sauber/Audi. Come on man
The same happened to Damon Hill
Typical modern day life.
“Not fair”
I'm cheering him on. I have high hopes for him and Williams both climbing the ranks. It will be exciting to watch them improve.
Hes had 4 years to outperform Leclerk and hasn't done so. Hardly the greatest injustice in F1 to be replaced. He costs a lot and brings very little sponsorship which is why other teams werent very interested.
Mate, Santander only were throwing 50-60 mil in Ferrari sponsorship, he could've covered part if not all of Checos' paycheck to get his place. Also, there's Estrella and others as well.
@@claudiustanciu05 no santander were only 20m, and the contract sainz would ask for would be a lot more than checo
I don’t think anyone thought he would beat Leclerc, but he deffinetly there when they need him, and was consistently just behind Leclerc, which is what Ferrari wanted.
@@claudiustanciu05m You’re crazy if you think Santander was spending $50-$60m because of Sainz. Even if he was a 10x WDC he wouldn’t be worth that much. The Spanish market just isn’t big enough to justify that.
not outperforming the second best driver in f1 doesn't mean you should be demoted to a williams lol. Sainz is still one of the top 6 drivers in f1.
i must say im very impressed by Sainz's turnaround. at the start of 2022 where the ferrari was at its best, sainz clearly struggled with the pointy front end and was miles behind leclerc who was fighting max. but he's clearly adapted (and the ferrari has adapted to him), and to be so close to leclerc in both qualifying and race trim is a genuine achievement.
I don't think lewis will do any better than him, i think in his current state of mind that the youngins have the edge over him and his age ofc, charles will beat him so bad that it'll eventually wear him out. Ferrari will regret this decision
Despite being a fan of Max, I would love Lewis to have his 8th WDC in Ferrari. The way things went down in AD 2021 was unfair and murky. The fault sorely lies with FIA (Maybe Latifi a bit 🤣), not Max, Lewis or RB.
@@88vfw if ferrari had a car that's gonna fight for the title they'll favor charles,
@@88vfw Lewis keeps failing to make it out of Q1 in a Mercedes, when his teammate is challenging for pole at some tracks.
Leclerc is gonna wipe the floor with him. Lewis has obviously just been losing motivation ever since 2021.
Carlos is the guy you call to make your cars better. It just sucks that nobody is willing to keep him after he helps them improve their cars.
I've really grown to like Sainz and I wish him the best in his Williams endeavors 🫡
Injustice??? You did not follow his time at Ferrari close enough. He never finished above p5 in the championship with Ferrari.
If Norris, Charles or George was available all the top teams would have signed them on the spot.
He is not a team player.
His and his entourage politics, the lack of true team spirit and especially not keeping pre race agreements make the team a toxic environment. He thinks he is the nr 1 driver.
He does not have the talent to back up his ego.
Agree
That's a bit harsh, but has much truth in it.
I disagree with the toxic environment, they got along with Leclerc well - maybe because despite the occasional shenanigans, Charles knew he can beat Carlos, and most of the time he did.
But yeah, there was really no contest when shit got serious, like early 2022 or this year after Monza when there was a small glimpse of hope for a title fight. Until it was taken away in Singapore, Leclerc has beaten Sainz every race by quite a margin.
We've had 3 constructors champions and 3 drivers champions in the last 10 years of F1 alongside roughly 14ish teams and 53 drivers. It's hard enough to get a race win (or just a whole season of racing) never mind being in a position to win a championship.
Got what he deserved tbh, tried to play Ferrari by declaring he was looking elsewhere in Monza 23 and they mugged him off. Even had him doing sim work while Leclerc filmed his contract announcement video. Thought he was worth more than he actual is. He'll shine back in the midfield
This is honestly so good for Williams. Since I started watching they became my favorite underdog team and this lineup with Albon and Sainz is honestly a lineup that, with another car, could really win a lot and fight for the top. I expect points this year for Williams
Sainz: Blue flags! Blue flags!
Vowles: They are for you, Carlos - sorry again.
I think Carlos is in a great place. He has helped improve every team he's been on, so I trust his experience, coupled with James' leadership, will consolidate Williams into regular point-scorers (so, top half of the pack) and eventually even retun it to podium contenders
"Injustice".. more like a reality check. He's a pretty good driver, but the fact that none of the top teams that had an empty seat wanted him, basically all except McLaren, says everything you need to know.
Red Bull did but they didn’t want him challenging max, or a second demanding father. Mercedes did too. Wolff is regretting signing a newbie.
He’s one of the most technically gifted drivers on the grid, so any team who needs to improve would need someone like him. But he’s too good as number 2 driver. That’s the “injustice” we’re talking about new fan
@@sandalphoncpuwhat part of "none of the big teams wanted him" is unclear to you? He may be all the things you say to fans, but clearly all top teams wanted something else
@@Sandouraswho told you that?
@@TunedIntoCars sounds like you know more than we publics know. What does that quote say everything you need to know? That’s more vague than a blind grandma pointing at a wall saying my home is over there
It was 10 pm Wednesday in Abu Dhabi when this video was posted. How did they do Thursday tests already ?
He has done nothing to deserve this treatment, that's what. All we can do is hope that Ferrari regret this.
sainz is great..sometimes
winning in mexico then crash out at the next in brazil..he needs to be more consistent
and he is not the best in team player
@@lcwpg He has just spent a season doing everything he can to try and get Ferrari the constructors championship. If I ran a team, that is as much as you could ask for.
@RatluBoogerbag don't forget he is paid to drive for the team and win for the team and win for himself.. it's part of a contract and be professional
This is his chance to lead Williams and show what he can do even Williams not a front runner
Sainz did beat leclerc in 2021 and they were teammates then