you did a great job on install, i own a marble Restoration Company in Naples, Florida Natural Stone Cleaning so i have came across jobs like this and my solution is to to grind entire surface with a floor machine with 120 grid,220,400 followed by a etching process that i use muriatic acid 60/40 mix ratio to water on a spray bottle , let it sit for about 45 minutes and after i will rinse and neutralize , let it dry completely and seal it it with a solvent base impregnator for maximum protection and water repellent that will harden the stone and make it way less slippery.
I can’t find the update where they installed the Italian tile ? Edit : You did a great job you smashing a hammer all over the place after ten years is amazing 💪🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
The work looks great but removing wouldn’t be my approach.. I would seal using a nano sealer like Coval and mix aluminum oxide. That would work (unless you really want to redo the job
You must of back buttered the stone. I am a tile repair guy and not back buttering keeps me in business. Your installation look's solid . Sad to have to tear it out.
Tile Coach, I’m a tile licensed contractor here in Northern California I have learned a lot from you coach Thank you so much for your kindness and everything you do to show us a better way I would definitely would want to meet you in person and get to know you better thanks for your support !! 👏👷🏽♂️✊🏽
Isaac what's the best way to cut larger format tiles? I'm installing 10"x59" planks for a customer. I was planning on 2 installers making the cuts using one of my larger Falker or MK wet saws; one cutting from the front like typical, while the other grabs the tile from the back side as it passes through the saw since the tiles will be hanging over the saw too far towards the end of the cut & would probably snap if only one of us cut by ourselves. The customer mentioned the rubi Slim System Large Format manual cutter for the long cuts...I'm curious what you would recommend. Any feedback is greatly appreciated!
Architect here: Yes, there would be absolutely no problem to roughen up the surface of travertine. Even concentrated citric acid will do but there are several ways. There are a number of techniques to change or restore travertine surfaces on installed floors. I have lots of traverine flooring myself and I don´t buy the "slippery around the pool" excuse. But to each his own. Travertine can be kept a lifetime, especially indoors. As most natural stones, it will also never go out of style. Its use dates back to the Romans and it was also used in ancient Anatolia and Egypt, many structures still standing with travertine flooring being hundreds if not thousands of years old. But yeah... in today´s America "11 years" means it is obolete. What a waste for a fine material.
Chando1986 , Your right, nice to take a little break and give use local knowledge on what’s-up with the abalone...his personal pride with the tile job and the condition it is presently in..fun stuff...I have been following you and my background is ,”Design”…kitchen, bath whole house! However i am retired. Soooooo, his honestly means everything to me. Now , with the whole Covid thing, I have a chance to see what is hot in 2020, with the right man! So, I am not done with this story yet, it will be nice if he has any options to the slippery tile around pool....One year I went to Cost Plus and purchased cheap woven grass cloth that does the job, however it is temporary....I am not going out there every spring to lay it down, then every fall to pick up and store it. I need something permanent. Adding dangerous, “ sharpe edges with a rented bead blaster, sounds visually ugly and dangerous to the body too. ☹️ Calling the Tile Coach real soon.I have several areas that need help. I know he is knowledgeable and we all know he is a fair man. Good luck everyone out there ! I have a beautiful project and and getting more and more excited! 👍 Rhea Rosingana ⛏🧰
Great video. Show the actual tear out so people can get an idea of how hard and messy it is, and how much manpower is required. I always get comments like, " how come it's so expensive to tear it out?" "How about if I tear it out and save some money?" BTW, what ever happened to the shower you were going to do for that little handicapped boy? Just asking.
That was a beautiful job, good that you got more work replacing it I guess but could the travertine have been given some type of covering or finish to reduce the slipperiness leaving it installed? Thanks for sharing this.
Nice floor bud. I did thousands of feet of Trav back then. I haven't worked with it at all in at least 5 years but for a while, It was going in on one out of three jobs. I Installed all my jobs the same exact way, no callbacks yet. I hope you guys are staying busy throughout the chaos. I slowed down for a couple weeks but now I have work scheduled for a month and a half. Take care.
You do great work and I like your honesty with showing your good and bad jobs. But i cant believe that tile was laid around a pool without thinking about how slippery it would be, not only for grandchildren but for adults. Typical case of style over practicality.
Like many people said, surely a resin coating with abrasives or acid etching would have taken the slip right off. Awesome to get more work though, especially right now.
Is there not some type of standard rating system to objectively compare porcelain tile quality (hardness, water absorption, wear resistance, etc)? Maybe a better way to compare American tiles.
Issac. You should do a California road trips series. Kind of like the tv program called California gold. You can be the new Heul howser and travel the state looking for treasures
Really nice install & for an 11 yr old job, still looks great. Cool that you get to demo it & than install all new again. That’s pretty cool that 1) homeowners & you have a good relationship and 2) goes to show that if do great quality work & communicate with homeowners....they become clients for life👍🏻 See ya on next one. Cheers✌🏼
No need to add an extra inch to the existing floor. Quarter inch of the thinset and 5/8 inch of the new porcelain tile. Plus it wouldn’t make any sense tiling over existing stone tile that is tiled over a concrete slab.
That is what a professional tiler thinks about before he starts a job the conditions an the hazard on what type of materials he uses the lack of communication between the customer an the contractor
Uh, you could just make one row or 2 around the pool less slippery before ripping out this nice floor? Travertine can be treated even when installed. You can use special acids, or machines to change the upper layer to what ever haptic effect you need. To make travertine less slippery is basically the easiest form to alternate its properties. The home owners should better invest in some paint to get rid of that literally crappy color of their wall before wasting money on a new floor.
Gotta love people with money, tearing it out cause is a little slick from time to time, and I’m not being a smart ass, I do love people with money, I wouldn’t have a job without them, lol
Well, likely little Suzy slipped and whacked her head, or Gram's slipped and broke her hip. I find it irresponsible for an experienced tile-setter not to say something about the potential hazards of that sort of tile around a pool. I'd certainly put a disclaimer in my estimate about it.
ArthurDentZaphodBeeb 10 out of 10 times a good installer would say something about it...including myself, but when people have their mind set on something and money isn’t really a set back, then so be it
Justin Moravec shows how many bad tilers there are. Ive been in some many places with cracked floor tiles just from people walking around on them. No hammers.
While you are 100% correct about Italian tile, I have to wonder about the prudence of using a glazed porcelain in an exterior application. This is generally not done, or at least it used to not be done before the solid porcelains became harder and harder to find. I'm sure it's been done many times quite successfully, but that doesn't make it prudent. Also, a decent tile job should should last at least fify years, and a great tile job should last a hundred years. I don't see any glazed porcelain installed outside doing either one of these, no matter how well they're installed.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm a tile setter, never heard anyone say cracked tiles look good!🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭 I give him credit for being a man and fixing his mistakes but its seems that all of his videos are his failed jobs 🤣🤣🤣 how does he keep getting hired in the first place?
About time you show us one of your jobs that didn’t fail Issac!
Joking. Keep it up and thanks for doing these videos!
😆 u ain't right
you did a great job on install, i own a marble Restoration Company in Naples, Florida Natural Stone Cleaning so i have came across jobs like this and my solution is to to grind entire surface with a floor machine with 120 grid,220,400 followed by a etching process that i use muriatic acid 60/40 mix ratio to water on a spray bottle , let it sit for about 45 minutes and after i will rinse and neutralize , let it dry completely and seal it it with a solvent base impregnator for maximum protection and water repellent that will harden the stone and make it way less slippery.
I can’t find the update where they installed the Italian tile ?
Edit : You did a great job you smashing a hammer all over the place after ten years is amazing 💪🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
thank you
Can we see the new finished job???
Man what a waste of beautiful tiles nice job by the way
Could you please make a video on how to end a tile on the transition from a hall to the garage concrete floor ? 🙏🏻
Johnny no step, a product that can be applied for slippage.
There are non slip coatings for larger format tiles, mops on.
The work looks great but removing wouldn’t be my approach.. I would seal using a nano sealer like Coval and mix aluminum oxide. That would work (unless you really want to redo the job
Ripping out what looks like new tile....wow.
Hey! Great job, can you tell me what thickness the travertine was in cm?
Could you drill little holes in the sides of the drain?
You must of back buttered the stone. I am a tile repair guy and not back buttering keeps me in business. Your installation look's solid . Sad to have to tear it out.
Tile Coach, I’m a tile licensed contractor here in Northern California I have learned a lot from you coach Thank you so much for your kindness and everything you do to show us a better way I would definitely would want to meet you in person and get to know you better thanks for your support !! 👏👷🏽♂️✊🏽
Isaac what's the best way to cut larger format tiles? I'm installing 10"x59" planks for a customer. I was planning on 2 installers making the cuts using one of my larger Falker or MK wet saws; one cutting from the front like typical, while the other grabs the tile from the back side as it passes through the saw since the tiles will be hanging over the saw too far towards the end of the cut & would probably snap if only one of us cut by ourselves. The customer mentioned the rubi Slim System Large Format manual cutter for the long cuts...I'm curious what you would recommend. Any feedback is greatly appreciated!
Travertine is not soft. It's between marble (softer) and granite (harder). So you can say it's moderately hard.
Really appreciate your content awesome channel.
Instead of a complete tear out and new tile, couldn’t the existing slippery surface been roughed up with some kind of light grinding process?
I was wondering the same....or perhaps an acid etch?
You are correct
Johnny no step
Architect here: Yes, there would be absolutely no problem to roughen up the surface of travertine. Even concentrated citric acid will do but there are several ways. There are a number of techniques to change or restore travertine surfaces on installed floors. I have lots of traverine flooring myself and I don´t buy the "slippery around the pool" excuse. But to each his own. Travertine can be kept a lifetime, especially indoors. As most natural stones, it will also never go out of style. Its use dates back to the Romans and it was also used in ancient Anatolia and Egypt, many structures still standing with travertine flooring being hundreds if not thousands of years old. But yeah... in today´s America "11 years" means it is obolete. What a waste for a fine material.
It can i have them on my entry porch and all over in my house here in Canada. The exterior ones shouldn't be polished
Damn so what kind of tinset u recommend now? For outdoors
I just got into tiling after following some of your videos and others on my washroom.now looking for a career im tiling installation, any advice?
I wanna see the boat in the next video
From one tylboss to another nice floor . But seriously , that abalone tid bit was even better. The more u know 🌈
Chando1986 , Your right, nice to take a little break and give use local knowledge on what’s-up with the abalone...his personal pride with the tile job and the condition it is presently in..fun stuff...I have been following you and my background is ,”Design”…kitchen, bath whole house!
However i am retired. Soooooo, his honestly means everything to me.
Now , with the whole Covid thing, I have a chance to see what is hot in 2020, with the right man!
So, I am not done with this story yet, it will be nice if he has any options to the slippery tile around pool....One year I went to Cost Plus and purchased cheap woven grass cloth that does the job, however it is temporary....I am not going out there every spring to lay it down, then every fall to pick up and store it.
I need something permanent.
Adding dangerous, “ sharpe edges with a rented bead blaster, sounds visually ugly and dangerous to the body too. ☹️
Calling the Tile Coach real soon.I have several areas that need help. I know he is knowledgeable and we all know he is a fair man.
Good luck everyone out there ! I have a beautiful project and and getting more and more excited! 👍 Rhea Rosingana ⛏🧰
I like this guy
EARPLUGS!! Please use them for your future well being:)
Eye pro! Don’t want the eyes to fail!
Good luck demolishing that job :D
Great video. Show the actual tear out so people can get an idea of how hard and messy it is, and how much manpower is required. I always get comments like, " how come it's so expensive to tear it out?" "How about if I tear it out and save some money?" BTW, what ever happened to the shower you were going to do for that little handicapped boy? Just asking.
They sell shark grip u can add to a sealer to prevent slip
I hope this does not mean we are going to miss out on the rest of the last job.
Could you not put a coat of epoxy or Sealent with silica sand mixed in? Should last a few years?
That was my thought exactly.
Ugh, would be uglier than sin and be horrible to walk on.
That was a beautiful job, good that you got more work replacing it I guess but could the travertine have been given some type of covering or finish to reduce the slipperiness leaving it installed? Thanks for sharing this.
I'd have had a sand blaster just rough it up a bit. Clear sand coating products to rough-up tile are expensive and don't last long at all.
Nice floor bud. I did thousands of feet of Trav back then. I haven't worked with it at all in at least 5 years but for a while, It was going in on one out of three jobs. I Installed all my jobs the same exact way, no callbacks yet. I hope you guys are staying busy throughout the chaos. I slowed down for a couple weeks but now I have work scheduled for a month and a half. Take care.
You do great work and I like your honesty with showing your good and bad jobs.
But i cant believe that tile was laid around a pool without thinking about how slippery it would be, not only for grandchildren but for adults. Typical case of style over practicality.
Man you rock
Like many people said, surely a resin coating with abrasives or acid etching would have taken the slip right off. Awesome to get more work though, especially right now.
Is there not some type of standard rating system to objectively compare porcelain tile quality (hardness, water absorption, wear resistance, etc)? Maybe a better way to compare American tiles.
Soooo ur saying u don't consider things before installing? If a customer says I already have the material and not suitable for the job u just install?
fuckoff
I can’t wait to see more of your great videos! I really like how you thoroughly explain everything. Keep up the great work!!!!
I can't even imagine how much this job costs.
Stock market is doing pretty good these days.....
For demo, haul, prep, thin set, deck mud, thin set, install 20x20 porcelain tile on a 1,000 sqft exterior patio with expansion joints. $25,000
How long is it going to take to demo all that and what tools are you going to use? Thanks!
Why not just roll on a non slip coating
I'd have tried a light sandblast before tearing all that out. In and out in half a day...
Tearing up travertine that's 11 years old, Christ! There's a special place in hell for people that are so wasteful.
11 years is a long time, nothing wrong with changing it up if that's what the customer wants.
Joseph DESTAUBIN agreed! Must have money to burn! I was thinking they might be able to just put an anti slip coating on it around the pool?
@@maxplant6926 yea, for cabinets & toilets.
Can it be recycled into something else, like maybe bricks? Or does it go straight to the dump?
Rich people problems 😆
Issac. You should do a California road trips series. Kind of like the tv program called California gold. You can be the new Heul howser and travel the state looking for treasures
Really nice install & for an 11 yr old job, still looks great. Cool that you get to demo it & than install all new again. That’s pretty cool that 1) homeowners & you have a good relationship and 2) goes to show that if do great quality work & communicate with homeowners....they become clients for life👍🏻
See ya on next one.
Cheers✌🏼
Why don’t you put the new tile over the old tile.
You can’t put tile over tile
Sam T yea you can. I never did but I know guys that did and it’s looks great.
Why couldn’t u tiled over top of it if it was stuck down so well?
No need to add an extra inch to the existing floor. Quarter inch of the thinset and 5/8 inch of the new porcelain tile. Plus it wouldn’t make any sense tiling over existing stone tile that is tiled over a concrete slab.
Drill some holes through that drain so the mortar can weep.
I’d love to hear your opinion on Merkrete’s FractureGuard. We use it a lot in Utah on installs that won’t see water.
Maybe think about wearing eye protection when using power tools to jackhammer up old tile!
He had his squints on ~
I hope some day I get a repeat client but I doubt I will😢
Use megalite from custom building products. Great vid.
That is what a professional tiler thinks about before he starts a job the conditions an the hazard on what type of materials he uses the lack of communication between the customer an the contractor
I feel sad you're tearing this out. :(
Everyone with a right mind would.
Uh, you could just make one row or 2 around the pool less slippery before ripping out this nice floor? Travertine can be treated even when installed. You can use special acids, or machines to change the upper layer to what ever haptic effect you need. To make travertine less slippery is basically the easiest form to alternate its properties. The home owners should better invest in some paint to get rid of that literally crappy color of their wall before wasting money on a new floor.
Cracked because it wasn't done well frost heave in California lol...u wanna see heave, come to canada
And now that the video is over, get those laborers in there on that hammer, lol
I mean, who puts travertine tile and grout outside anyway? What a waste of cash...
Wow dude it's a shame you had to tear that out, oh well job security
Always wear PPE. You will be an old man that wont be able to hear your grandchildren talking to you
Gotta love people with money, tearing it out cause is a little slick from time to time, and I’m not being a smart ass, I do love people with money, I wouldn’t have a job without them, lol
Well, likely little Suzy slipped and whacked her head, or Gram's slipped and broke her hip. I find it irresponsible for an experienced tile-setter not to say something about the potential hazards of that sort of tile around a pool. I'd certainly put a disclaimer in my estimate about it.
ArthurDentZaphodBeeb 10 out of 10 times a good installer would say something about it...including myself, but when people have their mind set on something and money isn’t really a set back, then so be it
don't show some of the process, try to show a lot of it. It's interesting to see the steps it takes. Liked your video , looking forward to the next.
I cannot believe you can hammer tile and it doesn’t break. Amazing.
With proper mortar coverage tiles can take a beating
Justin Moravec shows how many bad tilers there are. Ive been in some many places with cracked floor tiles just from people walking around on them. No hammers.
I've seen some Italian porcelain that looked like bananas
While you are 100% correct about Italian tile, I have to wonder about the prudence of using a glazed porcelain in an exterior application. This is generally not done, or at least it used to not be done before the solid porcelains became harder and harder to find. I'm sure it's been done many times quite successfully, but that doesn't make it prudent. Also, a decent tile job should should last at least fify years, and a great tile job should last a hundred years. I don't see any glazed porcelain installed outside doing either one of these, no matter how well they're installed.
Go to Europe and see tile jobs lasting thousands of years.
@@KameraShy Exterior glazed tile?
Climate change
did you really say cracks look good?? lmao ok
Money to burn.
🤙🏼Italian factories definitely are primo for sure. I can usually break of 1” strips with ease on my break. Other porcelains not so much.
Will never understand why people tile outside.. stamped concrete the way to go
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm a tile setter, never heard anyone say cracked tiles look good!🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭 I give him credit for being a man and fixing his mistakes but its seems that all of his videos are his failed jobs 🤣🤣🤣 how does he keep getting hired in the first place?
Jesus Lopez this isn’t a fail video. The floor is beautiful, they just want something different
First
Germany make the best tiles... "Deutsche Steinzeug" ;-)