You'll find links to the images for all these lists in the Description. I'll do my best to keep the images updated. If there are any Post-Facto updates to this list, you'll find them in this comment. Happy Sniping! Updates: (1) [Important] Pure Chain Lighting Build: I forgot that Thunderbolt Converter now improves skill damage. I figured this out during my testing and forgot to update ot here. Thunderbolt Converter 1, 2, and 3 should be in 'Must Pick'. Thank you, Altanna! Mistake: (1) I accidentally used the "Steady Profit" Blessing Icon instead of "Jackpot". I meant to use Jackpot for all of those Blessings, not Steady Profit. (2) I accidentally didn't include "Bolt from the Blue" in the Gradual Improvement One-Shot Build. That can be taken as a "Nothing Better". See Tip (1) for more info. Tips: (1) From user huskyandhdftw: You can take a point in Bolt from the Blue in any build that is using Magical Supply to extend the duration of Fatal Current and give more time to land the next one-shot. Not the most amazing ascension, but definitely a solid "Nothing Better" option! (2) From user MrFailology: When using Gradual Improvement, you don't want to use the CritX Gemini since it is Additive with the GI Blessing. IF you can manage to get a Combustion Fusion Elemental Gemini set up, your damage will be insane.
ty m8 your tiger builds are cracked! I'm relatively new to GR started playing on xbox was struggling in MP normal difficultly my top dmg was around 17mil tops for the tiger runs. But after using ur list I aced MP elite difficulty with over 40mil dmg. I love Tiger hitting 5-8 oneshots during fatal current is extremely satisfying I feel like rolling thunder like unstoppable force XD
I really enjoy coming across less popular games and their really dedicated fanbase. Like this video has so much information and is conveyed so clearly that some AAA games' fanbases would kill for. Thanks!
Thanks so much for the video. I'm playing each hero one by one and had nowhere to start. What at great current guide to follow. Excellent work. I just did your pure chain lightning build on R1 to test out. A lot of fun clearing rooms with a few chain lightnings.
I used your first graphic to really hone in on our Reincarnation 9 run this week. We got Gluttony as the last boss (our first time fighting them) so my dmg got a bit boosted but finished out the run with ~1.9 Billion DMG. I love sniping and this lightning cat so much.
The fact that you took the time to make your own Explanation Tier list page shows how much you sweat the details. Even down to the color, Legendary, Rare, Normal, and Cursed. Just saying, I appreciate the extra work.
LMK HOW IT GOES (if you want). I had a great time playing that way. It's a little less powerful than the standard way to play T&G, which made it so much juicier to me
Something to consider about GI builds that I dont believe you mentioned is that it frees you from critx gemini since critx damage bonuses are pretty diminshing. Instead you can build into Ele-Share to try and abuse combustion to further send ur damage to the moon.
That's a great point. And sometimes even the mag-share +25 RoF can be pretty nice since your damage is already insane. I'll add this tip to the pinned comment.
Another useful spiritual blessing is skilled trick. Just by scoping in(right click) it adds 20% lucky shot. so you can spam right clicks until you get 200% luckyshot (For sniper builds)
Bolt from the Blue works pretty well in a thunder and glory build with 50% chain lightning shock chance. (If you want to go pure wizard and spam thunder bolts without thunder nemesis)
Thank you so much for putting in the time and effort for this tier list! It looks so good and is so helpful! I wanted ask if you plan on doing updated tier lists for the other characters. Asking for Ao Bai maybe 😄
I totally agree. It wasn't always this way, but the characters have gotten more unique as time has gone one. Except Dog, but we don't talk about Dog's potential. It just makes us sad.
I would go for the general tier list and just act like the Blessings dont exist! All of these builds will work without their Blessings with the exception of maybe Gradual Improvement One-Shot (but even that will work for lower levels most likely)
Nice catch, but that's actually a mistake in the game's text. It's 90%! On the 9/23 Patch they updated it to 90% in the patch notes. They haven't reduced it in the patch notes since. Just a text error, I think!
Love the vids very useful info. Very new to the game and have only cleared normal so far but great game. Was wondering when looking at you skill lay outs ,which builds for characters are useful when not having access to spiritual blessings . Or is it kind of roll with what you get just looking for some info to progress through the difficulty’s. Thanks for the vids have a killer day
@@SlightRNG thanks for the info much appreciated! And thank you for the reply looking forward to end game and upcoming content and again thank you for all the great info you produce
After over 500 hours in this game, more than half on Tiger I feel like our perspective of power is so different (I usually play R8Jokul duo.) Recently I have been playing Monkey and I never thought someone would replace my favourite character until I played him, so good.
Haha, that's awesome!! What are some of the main differences in what we think is strong? I know its a lot of work to type out, but I'd be very interested in your perspective.
Apologies if I'm a dummy and missed you mention it, but do you not take Bolt from the Blue in gradual improvement build? Seems like adding a 3 second window to your E is a good QoL with nothing better at least, less likely to miss the window of chaining kills and maintaining E uptime
Huh, I actually hadn't considered getting Bolt from the Blue to extend the duration of Fatal Current for Magical Supply. Great point, I'll add that tip to the pinned comment.
Hey dude, cool guide. Just some criticism from a guy who deals with UX stuff: Please use a different font. In a work like this your text doesn't need to look fancy, it just has to be easy to read. Throw in some colour codes like highlight Chain Lightning teal, Fatal Current purple, etc. and you're gucci. Just don't overdo it with colour.
Great criticism. I was going for "over-doing" it as a target so that it might be a theme throughout, but if it's taking away from accessibility then Ill change it up
Hey Slight, from your previous tier lists, (Cat, Dog, etc), nothing has changed that much right?. 'Cause I've been thinking that maybe you made this updated versions for this specific characters 'cause they got reworked too much or smt
@@SlightRNG do you have any plans on doing tier lists for ascensions? IMO top builds for each character would be a better idea, I mean, you're kinda the only guy that uploads GR useful content hjahaha
Yo slight I was just asking for this I just came back to the game and I’m loving it a game and my favorite character is lei Luo And this is my favorite Content 10 out of 10
It seems like some of these builds are relatively dependent on getting 2 spiritual blessings (the last 2 especially). Are these guides taking into account RNG? Or are they contingent on restarting at act 2&3 checkpoints to get the right blessings?
All builds only include 1 that you have to have at the start, the rest you just pick based on the tier list. Each build only REQUIRES the top-left blessings, and even a few have options for the top-left blessing! :)
Also, I'm currently running the void proc tri-elemental build and it seems like the chain lightings that proc from a crit don't have an increased chance to shock (from gifted man). Is that just bad luck?
That looks to be a decode error. The 9/23 Patch upped it from 60 to 90. I think they just have the old text in there. From the patch notes: "2. Old: After casting [Fatal Current], remove self elemental effect immediately. In the next 2s, gain immunity to elemental effect and reduce DMG taken by 60% New: After casting [Fatal Current], remove self elemental effect immediately. In the next 2s, gain immunity to elemental effect and reduce DMG taken by 90%" The patch notes after that do not say anything about reverting it, so I think you're good to assume it's a bug! Let me know if I am missing something! Also: if it was at 60, it would still be A-tier.
idk why people shit on lightning kitty.. i just hit a 12.4 mil in one shot and hit my highest damage which is only like 310mil but the bloody drill does not mess around
I'm confused about the tier rating for summon a thunderbolt to strike when chain lightning hits one target. As far as I'm aware and have seen from speed runs, the lightning governor cheese is almost the key way he is played.
Yes! But this is a GENERAL tier list. Outside of a very specific build (which I personally find too RNG to make a build list for), its terrible! Remember, I make tier lists to be useful, not to arbitrarily rank ascensions/weapons/gifted man talents. I always try to maintain a given context for the list, so that it informs while spurring action. It is my personal opinion that most tier lists are not very useful, but that they APPEAR to be useful. An arbitrary tier list is easier to make, but less helpful, though if I were to arbitrarily rank that Gifted man, I'd end up putting it in (A) bc "its so OP in this one build", but then you can't* use the list correctly unless youre playing THAT build. Cha feel me?
@@SlightRNG i just noticed as i watched your videos is that because im playing it on the xbox game pass the game is running on an older version because i cant refresh gifted man at the start
How do you stop from dying instantly all the time in this game no matter how you build. I build defensively and it still doesn’t matter. It’s impossible to even beat it on Elite difficulty so all these builds are useless since I don’t have access to reincarnation
Incorrect! All these builds will work before reincarnation, just skip the blessings. Youre not moving efficiently, almost certainly. Watch my video on 'how to get good' at GFR and it will show you some practices you can do to get better.
![[95% Likes] Actually Useful ALL Weapon Tier List (for Solo R7) - Gunfire Reborn (7/18/21)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/CFwetx2x1To/mqdefault.jpg)
You'll find links to the images for all these lists in the Description. I'll do my best to keep the images updated. If there are any Post-Facto updates to this list, you'll find them in this comment. Happy Sniping!
Updates:
(1) [Important] Pure Chain Lighting Build: I forgot that Thunderbolt Converter now improves skill damage. I figured this out during my testing and forgot to update ot here. Thunderbolt Converter 1, 2, and 3 should be in 'Must Pick'. Thank you, Altanna!
Mistake:
(1) I accidentally used the "Steady Profit" Blessing Icon instead of "Jackpot". I meant to use Jackpot for all of those Blessings, not Steady Profit.
(2) I accidentally didn't include "Bolt from the Blue" in the Gradual Improvement One-Shot Build. That can be taken as a "Nothing Better". See Tip (1) for more info.
Tips:
(1) From user huskyandhdftw: You can take a point in Bolt from the Blue in any build that is using Magical Supply to extend the duration of Fatal Current and give more time to land the next one-shot. Not the most amazing ascension, but definitely a solid "Nothing Better" option!
(2) From user MrFailology: When using Gradual Improvement, you don't want to use the CritX Gemini since it is Additive with the GI Blessing. IF you can manage to get a Combustion Fusion Elemental Gemini set up, your damage will be insane.
This comment isn't pinned btw
@@robertsommers3540 Thank you! TH-cam un-pins the comment if you edit it. Alas.
bro youre literally incredible i think the gfr community extremely appreciates you
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Bro the weapons to go with the builds is awesome addition. Thanks for this man.
yw! Have fun! :)
I must say, as someone who is spending too much time in 3-man Gunfire R8 w/ friends trying out stupid shit, I appreciate this in-depth research.
ty m8 your tiger builds are cracked! I'm relatively new to GR started playing on xbox was struggling in MP normal difficultly my top dmg was around 17mil tops for the tiger runs. But after using ur list I aced MP elite difficulty with over 40mil dmg. I love Tiger hitting 5-8 oneshots during fatal current is extremely satisfying I feel like rolling thunder like unstoppable force XD
Getting Magical Supply chains is SO satisfying. Cheers! Good luck in Nightmare!
I really enjoy coming across less popular games and their really dedicated fanbase. Like this video has so much information and is conveyed so clearly that some AAA games' fanbases would kill for. Thanks!
yw fam
Thanks so much for the video. I'm playing each hero one by one and had nowhere to start. What at great current guide to follow. Excellent work. I just did your pure chain lightning build on R1 to test out. A lot of fun clearing rooms with a few chain lightnings.
LMK if you have any questions! :)
Same and each switch I watch the guide for that character
These videos are very helpful. Thanks for sharing and can't wait to see what you have next for us
Glad to hear it! I really do try to make them useful!!!
I used your first graphic to really hone in on our Reincarnation 9 run this week. We got Gluttony as the last boss (our first time fighting them) so my dmg got a bit boosted but finished out the run with ~1.9 Billion DMG. I love sniping and this lightning cat so much.
Hell yes! Glad it was helpful!!
youtube didnt push this into my sub box hello??? almost missed this masterpiece
As my views trend downward, TH-cam shows my videos to fewer and fewer people. Such is the algorithmic life!
The fact that you took the time to make your own Explanation Tier list page shows how much you sweat the details. Even down to the color, Legendary, Rare, Normal, and Cursed.
Just saying, I appreciate the extra work.
Thanks for seeing me :)
First... starting now, looking forward to these a ton
Let me know your thoughts or if you have any questions! :)
Damn this tier list looks amazing, great work as always man!
*tips cap
As always great vid, I always load up one of your tier list when I pick up the game again so its cool to see an updated one to use as a new refence
Hope some of the builds are fun to play when you pick it up again! Happy hunting!
Thank you. Excited to try the melee build!
LMK HOW IT GOES (if you want). I had a great time playing that way. It's a little less powerful than the standard way to play T&G, which made it so much juicier to me
Something to consider about GI builds that I dont believe you mentioned is that it frees you from critx gemini since critx damage bonuses are pretty diminshing. Instead you can build into Ele-Share to try and abuse combustion to further send ur damage to the moon.
That's a great point. And sometimes even the mag-share +25 RoF can be pretty nice since your damage is already insane. I'll add this tip to the pinned comment.
my 14.9 crit x disagrees heavily i hit 800k minimums
@@xReDTeaRx actually op is correct in this case
Another useful spiritual blessing is skilled trick. Just by scoping in(right click) it adds 20% lucky shot. so you can spam right clicks until you get 200% luckyshot
(For sniper builds)
Good call! That ascension was released after this video was made! :)
Bolt from the Blue works pretty well in a thunder and glory build with 50% chain lightning shock chance.
(If you want to go pure wizard and spam thunder bolts without thunder nemesis)
Yes! I've included that synergy in the Pure Chain lightning build! Great point.
Thank you so much for putting in the time and effort for this tier list! It looks so good and is so helpful! I wanted ask if you plan on doing updated tier lists for the other characters. Asking for Ao Bai maybe 😄
At this time, I am not really making much content, and if I do make something, its not GFR
love your content man. helps a lot
Awesome! That's my main objective. LMK if you have an Qs!
Interesting how they managed to make all the characters feel pretty different from each other.
I totally agree. It wasn't always this way, but the characters have gotten more unique as time has gone one. Except Dog, but we don't talk about Dog's potential. It just makes us sad.
I just got back into gunfire and have to say, this helped alot cause I didn't remember ANYTHING lmao
LOL! Nice glad it was useful
I love the format. Which build is the best if not in Reincarnation with those specialty abilities removed?
I would go for the general tier list and just act like the Blessings dont exist! All of these builds will work without their Blessings with the exception of maybe Gradual Improvement One-Shot (but even that will work for lower levels most likely)
Can tell you put a lot of effort in this video. Haven't even gone 3 minutes in
Hope its helpful!
we ask and you give!
Let me know if you have any questions! :)
@@SlightRNG just tried the pure sniper uff so happy u did all that testing so i dont have to. 300% luckyshot goshawk that auto crits
Nice guide!! :D Also damage reduced after Fatal Current is 60% not 90%
Nice catch, but that's actually a mistake in the game's text. It's 90%! On the 9/23 Patch they updated it to 90% in the patch notes. They haven't reduced it in the patch notes since. Just a text error, I think!
@@SlightRNG Ooh I see that’s awesome then! Thank you! Just did a melee TG build. Gotta say it was extremely fun
Best content creator for this game 🔥
No YOU are the best content creator for this game!!!
*Places reverse Uno card on the table
Love the vids very useful info. Very new to the game and have only cleared normal so far but great game. Was wondering when looking at you skill lay outs ,which builds for characters are useful when not having access to spiritual blessings . Or is it kind of roll with what you get just looking for some info to progress through the difficulty’s. Thanks for the vids have a killer day
You can play the general tier list without the blessings, no problem!
@@SlightRNG thanks for the info much appreciated! And thank you for the reply looking forward to end game and upcoming content and again thank you for all the great info you produce
@@craigdammenhayn7484 Youre welcome! Please LMK if you have any More questions! I try to respond to questions fast
After over 500 hours in this game, more than half on Tiger I feel like our perspective of power is so different (I usually play R8Jokul duo.) Recently I have been playing Monkey and I never thought someone would replace my favourite character until I played him, so good.
Haha, that's awesome!! What are some of the main differences in what we think is strong? I know its a lot of work to type out, but I'd be very interested in your perspective.
Why do you like the monkey so much? what build do you go for usually?
@@grimer1805 I personally like Wombo Combo builds as my "most likely to succeed" build. But going full secondary is quite strong too.
Love this vid because it's my favorite character but i'm a lil confused on which build is the best. I'm stuck on r9 rn
@@thetazerface4071 Thunder & Glory build with the blessing is disgusting.
Apologies if I'm a dummy and missed you mention it, but do you not take Bolt from the Blue in gradual improvement build? Seems like adding a 3 second window to your E is a good QoL with nothing better at least, less likely to miss the window of chaining kills and maintaining E uptime
Huh, I actually hadn't considered getting Bolt from the Blue to extend the duration of Fatal Current for Magical Supply. Great point, I'll add that tip to the pinned comment.
@@SlightRNG love the vids! eternally useful and literally every tier list upload i find 10 different ways i'm playing wrong lmao
@@huskyandhdftw haha glad to hear it. Your user name is such a throw-back for me. I haven't thought about early sc2 days in a hot minute.
Just an Idea, you should post the graphics with your name etc on it to reddit. Could be a good way to spread the good word of Slight!
Good idea, will do! :)
Hey dude, cool guide. Just some criticism from a guy who deals with UX stuff: Please use a different font. In a work like this your text doesn't need to look fancy, it just has to be easy to read. Throw in some colour codes like highlight Chain Lightning teal, Fatal Current purple, etc. and you're gucci. Just don't overdo it with colour.
Great criticism. I was going for "over-doing" it as a target so that it might be a theme throughout, but if it's taking away from accessibility then Ill change it up
Wow beautiful graphics 🤩
Thanks man, I brought out the big guns on those gradient layers nahwaddimean
(Paint(dot)net the program is so great)
Hey Slight, from your previous tier lists, (Cat, Dog, etc), nothing has changed that much right?. 'Cause I've been thinking that maybe you made this updated versions for this specific characters 'cause they got reworked too much or smt
Theyve changed but not drastically. I made this Tiger one bc I wanted to explore new builds
That being said, the old lists are showing age. Alas :(
@@SlightRNG do you have any plans on doing tier lists for ascensions? IMO top builds for each character would be a better idea, I mean, you're kinda the only guy that uploads GR useful content hjahaha
@@gibran8959 I have no plans to make any more GFR content. My work is far too busy at this time, unfortunately
Yo slight I was just asking for this I just came back to the game and I’m loving it a game and my favorite character is lei Luo And this is my favorite Content 10 out of 10
HYYPPPEEE! Glad to see it's helpful for you! Good luck with your runs!
It seems like some of these builds are relatively dependent on getting 2 spiritual blessings (the last 2 especially). Are these guides taking into account RNG? Or are they contingent on restarting at act 2&3 checkpoints to get the right blessings?
Either way, awesome tier list! Starting with skill freak over HPA made a HUGE difference to my success rate for chain lightning builds
All builds only include 1 that you have to have at the start, the rest you just pick based on the tier list.
Each build only REQUIRES the top-left blessings, and even a few have options for the top-left blessing! :)
Also, I'm currently running the void proc tri-elemental build and it seems like the chain lightings that proc from a crit don't have an increased chance to shock (from gifted man). Is that just bad luck?
Its either bad luck or a bug!
Can we get one of these guides for every character? That would be amazing
Yes! Working on Li now
lol that ad music randomly popping off
U said on discord something about a porcupine build but yea ... i cant seem to find that.
What u suggest is good for that?
I think I said everything I could in our discord.
Basically just get Lightning messenger and a porcupine. ;)
The DR on the gifted man Fatal Current was decreased from 90 to 60. Pretty big nerf! Do you think it's still worth it?
That looks to be a decode error. The 9/23 Patch upped it from 60 to 90. I think they just have the old text in there. From the patch notes:
"2. Old: After casting [Fatal Current], remove self elemental effect immediately. In the next 2s, gain immunity to elemental effect and reduce DMG taken by 60%
New: After casting [Fatal Current], remove self elemental effect immediately. In the next 2s, gain immunity to elemental effect and reduce DMG taken by 90%"
The patch notes after that do not say anything about reverting it, so I think you're good to assume it's a bug!
Let me know if I am missing something!
Also: if it was at 60, it would still be A-tier.
@@SlightRNG Yeah, in-game it says 60, but I'm gonna assume they just haven't updated the tooltip yet
idk why people shit on lightning kitty.. i just hit a 12.4 mil in one shot and hit my highest damage which is only like 310mil but the bloody drill does not mess around
They wrong boo
I'm confused about the tier rating for summon a thunderbolt to strike when chain lightning hits one target. As far as I'm aware and have seen from speed runs, the lightning governor cheese is almost the key way he is played.
Yes! But this is a GENERAL tier list. Outside of a very specific build (which I personally find too RNG to make a build list for), its terrible!
Remember, I make tier lists to be useful, not to arbitrarily rank ascensions/weapons/gifted man talents. I always try to maintain a given context for the list, so that it informs while spurring action.
It is my personal opinion that most tier lists are not very useful, but that they APPEAR to be useful. An arbitrary tier list is easier to make, but less helpful, though if I were to arbitrarily rank that Gifted man, I'd end up putting it in (A) bc "its so OP in this one build", but then you can't* use the list correctly unless youre playing THAT build.
Cha feel me?
so sorry to ask this but i am new to the game and only have unlocked nightmare, can these builds be done before R?
Yes! Just skip the blessing and these builds will still work! :)
@@SlightRNG i just noticed as i watched your videos is that because im playing it on the xbox game pass the game is running on an older version because i cant refresh gifted man at the start
@@evgenykutepov9174 Yes! If you want information that's closer to the patch youre on, check out the 1.0 version video of this tier list.
Can we use these builds on team match ? Thank you for hard working !
yes! Absolutely!
Bunny tier list
Eventually!
What Gemini would you recommend for t & g?
You dont really need one, but crit or ele would be good
@@SlightRNG thanks for the reply. Any plans on uploading a nona build/ tier list or any other characters?
@@TheLoLnoobie nah too busy at work to have time to do 30 or so runs on them to be abel to make the list
What gemini we should use for the Shrieker ? Crir X or there is something better ?
If youre doing the Gradual Improvement One-Shot build, I would go for an Elemental Gemini. If you don't get a Fusion Effect, go for Fire damage.
@@SlightRNG alright, thanks !
Why do you say rainbow arc has great synergy? is it the charge shot?
Yes, the charge shot!
How do you stop from dying instantly all the time in this game no matter how you build. I build defensively and it still doesn’t matter. It’s impossible to even beat it on Elite difficulty so all these builds are useless since I don’t have access to reincarnation
Incorrect! All these builds will work before reincarnation, just skip the blessings.
Youre not moving efficiently, almost certainly. Watch my video on 'how to get good' at GFR and it will show you some practices you can do to get better.
And never say something is impossible. Youre far more capable than u realize. You just need time and experience. Be patient with yourself.
one shot gradual improvement is missing bolt from the blue or i'm that blind?
Nice catch. That should be in 'Nothing Better' since it synergizes with Magical Supply for longer duration.
Do you have a community discord?
Good day. You can find Slight in the Official GR Discord, which is kinda a Community Discord. Plenty of info and knowledgeable people there.
@@A_Bird23 thank you bro