Excommunication is not meant to be merely a punishment sending people out of the Church. It’s telling them that they were already away from the Church before this decision was made and that they must repent in order to come home.
yes and no. There is part of it which is acknowledging the individual is already not with the Church spiritually and perhaps has excommunicated himself already by a certain action. But the official pronouncement of this is a public and juridical action, a warning to the excommunicant to repent and return to communion with the Church, but also as a public example for others who might be in the same danger to turn around themselves.
If rome says something and the bible says something different...im going with the bible. The written word of god inspired by the holy spirit written through the hands of man.
Man I’m so glad I found this channel. Hats off to you for doing your due diligence exposing Vigano’s schism to the Vatican. Praying for you and may GOD Bless you!!
Nope. The only 2 things Viganò has in common with Luther is that both were convinced their ideas were right and both ended up getting excommunicated and that's where their similarity ends. The only reason reformation was a "revolutionary scale success" is becouse of polititians (good portion of german nobility) supporting it, embracing it, financing it and promoting it to the point of dealing with violence agains any local opposition... that included military interventions...
He got what he wanted. More attention. It’s a sad day when anyone gets excommunicated. Our church had no choice but to make official that which was already obvious.
Vigano has brought this upon himself. Now he wants to further tarnish his legacy. I pray that no one follows him. The road he has chosen is not the road you want to be on. God bless the Church, the Holy Father, and all the faithful Servants.🙏🙏🙏
The devil is cunning by snatching souls of religious leaders when they are at advanced age because the devil knows it's the fastest and easiest path since there will be less time left for them to repent. Same can be seen with Cardinal Zen, who's not even realised that the devil is tempting him and with just one major error, all his works with Catholic Church will be wasted. Pray for them much that they persevere in the faith and not having their life worth of merits be nullified at the eleventh hour.
That’s so sad. It kind of reminds me of the bishop lefebvre story. I don’t think he has evil intentions he has just been deceived by Satan 😔 definitely praying for him.
Let’s all pray for the conversion of Vigano to Catholicism and come back into communion with his holiness, The Pope. May God have mercy on Vigano‘s soul.
Modern day Pharisees acting like l"gb""t or bad people in general shouldn't enter heaven. He believes in Protestants Sola Fide version of what EENS actually means, that's why they hate Vatican II so much. It's like saying: why i live a holy life and faithful to the lord, if bad sinners and pagans still can be allowed to enter the Kingdom. It's urgent today that we pray for the conversion of Vigano and all Catholics who abandoned Catholic Church. “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to." Mat 23:13-14
I do not relish the condemnation of any excommunicated soul to perdition. But, Vigano is a smart man he acted of his own free will and now has chosen his fate. May God have mercy upon him and hopefully Vigano will repent and seek God's mercy
All this does is acknowledge a spiritual truth; Viganò had separated himself from Holy Mother Church. This is just a public and judicial proclamation of such. I can only pray that he and those who follow him repent and come back into line with the one true Church. 🙏🏾📿
It is a surprise to me that priests like James Martin will are at least willing to “appear” to behave. Vigano is taking the Martin Luther route. Yes, let’s pray for people like these ones. We are all vulnerable to being in error when we belueve we know better than the Church.
through henry the 8 th, my country had to become anglican , they took over from us catholics,wh enh became head of the church , in his break away from rome
And he murdered so many Catholics and destroyed so many churches, monasteries and convents. His behaviour had an impact on the Irish and British church for centuries.
@@ThomasPrior-wv6zn yes, this is the damage Vigano and those of his ilk create. It’s so pervasive, reaches far and wide and for centuries to come. How can they not see the danger of these evils?
@@ReasonandTheology you are right. I shouldn't but I feel somehow relief. He was burden not only fur a Church but for the whole Tradition movement -his mindless actions are the part of the problem why Traditionis Custodes was prepared.
I stand with the truth. The fact that his claims were not investigated properly is an indication of possible corruption on multiple levels. God will handle this situation and the truth will set the record straight . I hope it’s not too late . God help the world as we know it 🙏
Vigano strikes me as a very mean-spirited, almost psychopathic personality, especially given his alignment with Mike Flynn insurrectionist movement. I'm not a Catholic, so I suppose I don't have a dog in that fight, but nevertheless, I'm quite pleased with this news.
"If one day they shall excommunicate us because we remain faithful to these theses, we shall consider ourselves excommunicated by Freemasonry. - (Archbishop Lefebvre, sermon given in 1978)
So many others should be excommunicated. PEDRO III of the PALMARIAN CHURCH in Spain. Maybe he is latae sententiae excommunicated. Minutella (proud of having being excommunicated twice) and his "piccolo resto" with 7-8 priests and a good amount of psychologically subjugated people; and priedts ( real cani sciolti) here and there. My goodness... How can we not cry? Time for prayer.
@@gaspartiznado6418 he unfortunately CHOSE this path and the destruction of his choices and behaviour will be quite pervasive and far reaching - that’s the tragedy of the grievous sins of pride, calumny and disobedience
...and there you are. Very 😔..I hope the first thing you did is tear up.. and attend Mass and lift up your prayers to the heavenly court because the news are not what they LOOK FORWARD to. This is bad news. We are crying seeing what is happening in the Church while others are taking advantage of the situation. We pray for us to be ONE. Jesus said to leave the 99 and go for the 1 Lost Sheep. In this Jesus, clearly wanted us to know that He does not like it when we separate or lose a sheep. We do not take sides, we are Sheep that follow the shepherd, we get confused when things are not clear too many voices within the Church and now the Lay has only managed to throw more firewood into the fire albeit some are very faithful to the Church. Others for selfish reasons. We do not Judge either for our Lord God is in control. Catholics need to be very careful. Many wolves are within us. Lord God have mercy on us all. Amen😢
If someone tells you they stand with Vigano, ask them if they know Vigano says Francis is not the pope. Whether they say yes or no, ask them if they agree with Vigano that Francis is not the pope. If they say no, then tell them they do not actually stand with Vigano. If they say yes, then tell them such a belief is nothing more than the definition of excommunication. Either the pope is the pope-warts and all-or you are excommunicated.
W 👌🔥 If he can't obey, then he doesn't deserve to be in that place. Every bishop takes an oath before they are ordained to obey their superiors. If he can't keep that, then he isn't what he thinks he is. [Obedience Is Better than Sacrifice - 1 Samuel 15:22]
No matter how much scrutiny we go through, Jesus said there would be, we need to stay with the Church. There is no way i will follow another human into Hell.
The issue is that this man, unlike Marshall, was an archbishop of the Roman Catholic Church. His excommunication was necessary to prevent him from doing anything in the name of the Church.
@@ReasonandTheology You sir are not a TRUEZ CATHOLIC. Suggest you learn the real doctrine of the church. You call yourself a theologian. In reality you're only a man with personal views.
You can put yourself into a position of being in excommunication automatically (called latae sententiae) by certain acts. So they could conceivably be in excommunication without the Pope having to declare them as such
Probably trying to avoid Reformation 2.0 It's one thing to excommunicate the bishops but what if they took the German church away from Rome? Personally I believe the Germans bishops have already excommunicated themselves
I stand with Vigano and the Church Jesus (not the New World order) created. Jesus said you would know them by their fruits. Bergolio is showing us his fruits. He’s trying to take the place of Jesus.
The people complaining about the excommunication…are the same people who would freak out if their employee or coworker started rumors about them or denied their authority in the workplace.
My dear Jesus, I'm so sorry this is happening to you. Allow me to pray United Through, With, and In Your Supreme Fiat to repair and redo all the acts of Carlos Maria Vigano, and all others like him, as though he never sinned and always Lived In Your Thrice-Holy Divine Will, claiming in this moment of time what You, O Christ, have already Accomplished and Completed - once for all and for each one throughout Eternity - and we pray this on behalf of all people of all time - past~present~future, multiplying this prayer to Infinity for the Sanctification of all and each one. Fiat! Amen! So Be It! 🙏🙏🙏 May the Lord have mercy upon his soul ~ may he find True Repentance. Fiat et Amen.
I've heard what happened with Vigano. And I won't leave Mother Church. (Mamma Mary also begs us not to do so.) But are there any examples in history where someone has been excommunicated but then found to be correct and the excommunication reversed?
The Holy Spirit revealed to me that even IF Vigino is right we should be like David when he was persued unjustly by King Saul. Or Padre Pio when he was barred from the Confessional.
I stand with Rome and the pope, but many people don't agree or like the second Vatican council is Rome going to excommunicate all of them, too and why doesn't he excommunicate political leaders who claim to be Catholic but promote uncatholic teachings and still receive the holy eucharist while in a state of moral sin
Vigano raises great questions and makes good arguments. I see that Jose is breaking with scripture. God is unwavering in His Truth. Jose doesn't get to do that.I stand loyal to God.
Pray for Papa Francisco that he will lead RC to a right path. Because he is still human and prone to mistakes. Because evil are doing all to bring us down.
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So what happens to an Archbishop that's excommunicated? Does he have to get a job?
@@ReasonandTheology , the sedevacantists are excommunicated too according to this people.
Excommunication is not meant to be merely a punishment sending people out of the Church. It’s telling them that they were already away from the Church before this decision was made and that they must repent in order to come home.
yes and no. There is part of it which is acknowledging the individual is already not with the Church spiritually and perhaps has excommunicated himself already by a certain action. But the official pronouncement of this is a public and juridical action, a warning to the excommunicant to repent and return to communion with the Church, but also as a public example for others who might be in the same danger to turn around themselves.
Agreed; it is meant to be 'medicinal'.
I believe the church founded by Jesus is strong, no gates of hell shall destroy it .
But he dont want to repent. So he is protestant now
I don’t understand how any Cardinal, let alone any priest like Martin Luther, can not take excommunication seriously. The devil is a cunning foe.
Agreed
Pride😢
@@Lone_BrotherinChrist ?
It's all about power. So you excommunicated anyone and anything that threatens your power
I can, Pope had actually done some questionable things, I said some borderline heretical things to.
Rome has spoken.. the matter is closed..
True. Let's pray for his repentance.
@@ReasonandTheology yes, every priest who loses his way, is a loss for the kingdom.. will pray that God gives him a heart to repent..
~ Saint Augustine
If rome says something and the bible says something different...im going with the bible. The written word of god inspired by the holy spirit written through the hands of man.
@@MrYz250fman the fact is.. it wont
Mother Church has weathered worse storms than Vigano and his ilk. Jesus promised the Holy Spirit would guide and preserve His Church.
True! but there are still many souls at risk and at stake
@@lorriemcnickle7738 that is truth
Sad that many will follow him blindly and blame the pope :(
Yep
Right
Pope Francis is not the easiest to understand and follow.
Remember Archbishop Vigano served Pope Benedict XVI very well.
@@FREEMAN....
Did Vigano actually make the effort?
@@valeriebreathet741 Does that make my remark concerning Pope Francis less valid?
"The gates of hell shall not prevail against it"
Amen
That doesn't mean we shouldn't be concerned for souls though, there are many at risk and at stake
Man I’m so glad I found this channel. Hats off to you for doing your due diligence exposing Vigano’s schism to the Vatican. Praying for you and may GOD Bless you!!
Thank you. Glad to have you!
Please, prayers for my twin brother who defends Vigano 💔
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Prayers
🙏🏼
God bless our Pope Francis
Indeed
Awesome news 🎉
Amen
@@Jodes-y7bSad news, pray for Vigano
@@jaqian
Make sure that your prayers are for his repentance!
I stand with Pope Francis and all his successors.
Same.
He crossed the line of unity himself, just like Luther.
Yep. He has broken away from the unity of the Church.
Sounds like someone desperately needs to submit to Rome
Yep
This is, in many ways, a protest and a revolution. Comparing this with Luther is spot-on.
Yes a protest against a heretical Pope and Vatican.
Nope. The only 2 things Viganò has in common with Luther is that both were convinced their ideas were right and both ended up getting excommunicated and that's where their similarity ends. The only reason reformation was a "revolutionary scale success" is becouse of polititians (good portion of german nobility) supporting it, embracing it, financing it and promoting it to the point of dealing with violence agains any local opposition... that included military interventions...
He got what he wanted. More attention. It’s a sad day when anyone gets excommunicated. Our church had no choice but to make official that which was already obvious.
I doubt he was motivated by attention.
He shouldn't have rebelled against the Pope but he was not that kind of cleric.
Vigano has brought this upon himself. Now he wants to further tarnish his legacy. I pray that no one follows him. The road he has chosen is not the road you want to be on. God bless the Church, the Holy Father, and all the faithful Servants.🙏🙏🙏
Prayers for Vigano.
Peter’s successor still holds the Keys. 🔑
Yep
Sir, a second protestant rising has hit the Church.
Yep
☠️
Protestant for the catholic not not God
This is very tragic. Mother Mary lost another child. We can only pray he comes to his senses and submits to God again.
The gate of hell will never prevail over the Church built by Jesus Christ on St Peter. I stand with the Pope.
This is a sad day, but it was necessary to preserve the faith. I’ll see you in the live!
Jesus repair your Church . Help our Pope
He wanted this so his pride gave him what he wants. I wonder if these "viganists" are going to follow him out of the church
Sadly many will
The devil is cunning by snatching souls of religious leaders when they are at advanced age because the devil knows it's the fastest and easiest path since there will be less time left for them to repent. Same can be seen with Cardinal Zen, who's not even realised that the devil is tempting him and with just one major error, all his works with Catholic Church will be wasted. Pray for them much that they persevere in the faith and not having their life worth of merits be nullified at the eleventh hour.
Interesting take.
That’s so sad. It kind of reminds me of the bishop lefebvre story. I don’t think he has evil intentions he has just been deceived by Satan 😔 definitely praying for him.
Let’s all pray for the conversion of Vigano to Catholicism and come back into communion with his holiness,
The Pope. May God have mercy on Vigano‘s soul.
The protestant spirit is out of control. He needs repentance before he dies.
Agreed
This is so sad. His soul is in grave peril. Lets pray for him and his convertion.
Modern day Pharisees acting like l"gb""t or bad people in general shouldn't enter heaven. He believes in Protestants Sola Fide version of what EENS actually means, that's why they hate Vatican II so much. It's like saying: why i live a holy life and faithful to the lord, if bad sinners and pagans still can be allowed to enter the Kingdom.
It's urgent today that we pray for the conversion of Vigano and all Catholics who abandoned Catholic Church.
“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to." Mat 23:13-14
I do not relish the condemnation of any excommunicated soul to perdition. But, Vigano is a smart man he acted of his own free will and now has chosen his fate. May God have mercy upon him and hopefully Vigano will repent and seek God's mercy
I stand with pope Francis and the Catholic Church
Amen
May the Lord have mercy upon his soul ~ may he find True Repentance. Fiat et Amen.
Amen
All this does is acknowledge a spiritual truth; Viganò had separated himself from Holy Mother Church. This is just a public and judicial proclamation of such. I can only pray that he and those who follow him repent and come back into line with the one true Church. 🙏🏾📿
What sadness. Pray pray pray. We too can fall.
Thanks , for giving us the news this fast !!!!!
For sure
Stand with the pope of Rome
It is striking the similarities with Luther. The comments section on Rome Reports is so pro vigano, it's disturbing
Yep. Many have fostered this environment in the Church today.
@@ReasonandTheology I'm pushing back as usual
Where Peter is, there is the Church. Stay with the pope!
Time to see where the rest of the RadTrads fall. To be honest, I think it’s a just a matter of time before we get a new Augsburg Confession.
They need to repent or go.
GOOD! He needs to do some serious examen and REPENT!
A crazy Vigano. NO way I stand with an instrument of scandal like Vigano full of hate.
Pray for his conversion.
Praise the Lord! 🙏
It is a surprise to me that priests like James Martin will are at least willing to “appear” to behave. Vigano is taking the Martin Luther route. Yes, let’s pray for people like these ones. We are all vulnerable to being in error when we belueve we know better than the Church.
@@harleymann2086 Some action should be also taken with James Martin.
through henry the 8 th, my country had to become anglican , they took over from us catholics,wh enh became head of the church , in his break away from rome
And he murdered so many Catholics and destroyed so many churches, monasteries and convents. His behaviour had an impact on the Irish and British church for centuries.
@@ThomasPrior-wv6zn yes, this is the damage Vigano and those of his ilk create. It’s so pervasive, reaches far and wide and for centuries to come. How can they not see the danger of these evils?
Finally.
Let’s pray he converts
@@ReasonandTheology you are right. I shouldn't but I feel somehow relief. He was burden not only fur a Church but for the whole Tradition movement -his mindless actions are the part of the problem why Traditionis Custodes was prepared.
Good to know that Vigano is finally excommunicated!
Vigano is Luther for 2024.
Nothing new under the sun….
I read about this on Reuters just before i attended Mass this morning! Cant wait to hear your thoughts about this later on
Coming at noon!
I wish I could attend daily mass
@shepherddog1199 When I'm not working I try to attend at least one daily Mass
@@shepherddog11992nd shift is where it at my man. Or find a church with early masses. Church I go too sometimes in NC has daily mass at 8 am and noon.
I stand with the truth. The fact that his claims were not investigated properly is an indication of possible corruption on multiple levels. God will handle this situation and the truth will set the record straight . I hope it’s not too late . God help the world as we know it 🙏
God has worked and spoken. The council did their work. Accept it.
Stand with catholic Church no matter what happen
Yes, he's done it publicly so it's not a surprise he's being
excommunicated
Right
Vigano doesn't stand with the Pope? Bye. We don't need that.
Vigano strikes me as a very mean-spirited, almost psychopathic personality, especially given his alignment with Mike Flynn insurrectionist movement. I'm not a Catholic, so I suppose I don't have a dog in that fight, but nevertheless, I'm quite pleased with this news.
BRAVO VIGANO YOU ARE FREE OF THOSE DEMONS👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Vigano needs prayers. Pope Francis is a bad Pope.
Breaking news but not shocking whatsoever. We all knew it was coming, it was just a matter of when
"If one day they shall excommunicate
us because we remain faithful to these
theses, we shall consider ourselves
excommunicated by Freemasonry.
- (Archbishop Lefebvre, sermon given
in 1978)
So many others should be excommunicated. PEDRO III of the PALMARIAN CHURCH in Spain. Maybe he is latae sententiae excommunicated. Minutella (proud of having being excommunicated twice) and his "piccolo resto" with 7-8 priests and a good amount of psychologically subjugated people; and priedts ( real cani sciolti) here and there. My goodness... How can we not cry? Time for prayer.
They're already outside the Church
Vigano = Luther, Trads = Protestants. Thank you, Pope Francis, for guarding the souls in your care!
Trads do not equal Protestant. Chill.
Yes, I would consider Trads to be Protestant or even a cult.
Going to be lots of copium use among rad trads this week
If you are a part of an organisation, you have to follow its rules. How hard can it be?
Finally, Su santidad Francisco is oficially based
Let's pray for Vigano though. It is not good for him.
Sad to see but it’s smth that had to be done
He is right ,as he is defending the Church and faith.
He is wrong and is a schismatic who falsely accuses the church and teaches falsehoods. Are you in schism with him?
I’m saddened by this news. I’m not a fan of Viganó, but I don’t like seeing him apart from Mother Church like this.
He was already separated. It's very sad. I have relatives who might follow him out.
@@blindknitter I understand that. And yes, I also know people who might follow him too 😔
@@gaspartiznado6418 he unfortunately CHOSE this path and the destruction of his choices and behaviour will be quite pervasive and far reaching - that’s the tragedy of the grievous sins of pride, calumny and disobedience
...and there you are. Very 😔..I hope the first thing you did is tear up.. and attend Mass and lift up your prayers to the heavenly court because the news are not what they LOOK FORWARD to. This is bad news.
We are crying seeing what is happening in the Church while others are taking advantage of the situation. We pray for us to be ONE.
Jesus said to leave the 99 and go for the 1 Lost Sheep. In this Jesus, clearly wanted us to know that He does not like it when we separate or lose a sheep.
We do not take sides, we are Sheep that follow the shepherd, we get confused when things are not clear too many voices within the Church and now the Lay has only managed to throw more firewood into the fire albeit some are very faithful to the Church. Others for selfish reasons.
We do not Judge either for our Lord God is in control. Catholics need to be very careful. Many wolves are within us.
Lord God have mercy on us all. Amen😢
Will admit I haven't followed Vigano but seeing his pic disturbed me. Not sure why. Maybe it's his stony look. Praying Gods will be done.
His face looks deformed in recent pictures.
The very first time I seen him I thought he looked lost and sad. Instead we should be able to show others the joy of Jesus within ourselves.
Fear the devil, he's cunning. He can deceive even the brightest man. Stay Humble.
If someone tells you they stand with Vigano, ask them if they know Vigano says Francis is not the pope.
Whether they say yes or no, ask them if they agree with Vigano that Francis is not the pope.
If they say no, then tell them they do not actually stand with Vigano. If they say yes, then tell them such a belief is nothing more than the definition of excommunication.
Either the pope is the pope-warts and all-or you are excommunicated.
Risk my soul for not standing with the pope? So do you believe all Christian denominations who aren’t catholic are going to hell?
W 👌🔥 If he can't obey, then he doesn't deserve to be in that place. Every bishop takes an oath before they are ordained to obey their superiors. If he can't keep that, then he isn't what he thinks he is. [Obedience Is Better than Sacrifice - 1 Samuel 15:22]
Perhaps you could do an episode on what determines salvation and the importance of staying in the communion of the Church.
Good job time to clean the swamp
Drain the swamp
No matter how much scrutiny we go through, Jesus said there would be, we need to stay with the Church. There is no way i will follow another human into Hell.
Vigano is not a Protestant!
He is the founder of a new Protestant rebellion that is similar to the previous one.
Sad you defend excommunicated schismatics
Question , so are all the people ie Taylor marshal and the others getting excommunicated to ?
If they deny Francis is the pope they are already excommunicated. That was just confirmed by this excommunication
@@ReasonandTheology thank you sorry I was not sure
The issue is that this man, unlike Marshall, was an archbishop of the Roman Catholic Church. His excommunication was necessary to prevent him from doing anything in the name of the Church.
@@ReasonandTheology
You sir are not a TRUEZ CATHOLIC.
Suggest you learn the real doctrine of the church.
You call yourself a theologian. In reality you're only a man with personal views.
You can put yourself into a position of being in excommunication automatically (called latae sententiae) by certain acts. So they could conceivably be in excommunication without the Pope having to declare them as such
Good 🔥
Pray for his repentance
Why didn't Pope Francis excommunicate the German bishops too?
I have many videos about him and what he is doing about the german bishops
Probably trying to avoid Reformation 2.0 It's one thing to excommunicate the bishops but what if they took the German church away from Rome? Personally I believe the Germans bishops have already excommunicated themselves
Of course, this will be a badge of honor for this guy.
I stand with Vigano and the Church Jesus (not the New World order) created. Jesus said you would know them by their fruits. Bergolio is showing us his fruits. He’s trying to take the place of Jesus.
I stand with the real Church with Jesus as the head!
The people complaining about the excommunication…are the same people who would freak out if their employee or coworker started rumors about them or denied their authority in the workplace.
I believe Vigano will never leaves Catholic Church. Do not agree with 2nd vatican council and pope Francis does not make him against Catholic church .
Who has influenced Vigano on his views?
The Evil One
I belive God saved Vigano .i belive God saved me from catholicism
My dear Jesus, I'm so sorry this is happening to you. Allow me to pray United Through, With, and In Your Supreme Fiat to repair and redo all the acts of Carlos Maria Vigano, and all others like him, as though he never sinned and always Lived In Your Thrice-Holy Divine Will, claiming in this moment of time what You, O Christ, have already Accomplished and Completed - once for all and for each one throughout Eternity - and we pray this on behalf of all people of all time - past~present~future, multiplying this prayer to Infinity for the Sanctification of all and each one. Fiat! Amen! So Be It! 🙏🙏🙏
May the Lord have mercy upon his soul ~ may he find True Repentance. Fiat et Amen.
@@mpkropf5062- yes, he did do so. Numerous times. God Bless you! 🌞
I've heard what happened with Vigano. And I won't leave Mother Church. (Mamma Mary also begs us not to do so.) But are there any examples in history where someone has been excommunicated but then found to be correct and the excommunication reversed?
It won't be the case here.
Don't stand for those excommunicated... Coz you will wbd up rejecting the Lord, and the Magisterium..
Not in the club , but God's club welcomes him.
The Holy Spirit revealed to me that even IF Vigino is right we should be like David when he was persued unjustly by King Saul. Or Padre Pio when he was barred from the Confessional.
The mother church is Holy but the leaders are ????
I stand with Rome and the pope, but many people don't agree or like the second Vatican council is Rome going to excommunicate all of them, too and why doesn't he excommunicate political leaders who claim to be Catholic but promote uncatholic teachings and still receive the holy eucharist while in a state of moral sin
Vigano was trying to preserve and maintain Church tradition. Luther and Protestants are trying to modify Church tradition. There is a big difference.
Except he didn’t and he isn’t.
So what happens to an excommunicated Archbishop? Do they have to get a job?
We must be cautious in our accusations and our judgements towards anyone, especially the Authority of God HimSelf. God bless
Vigano raises great questions and makes good arguments. I see that Jose is breaking with scripture. God is unwavering in His Truth. Jose doesn't get to do that.I stand loyal to God.
Vigano? More like Vee gone oooooo
Bye, bye Vigano. Welcome to Martin Luther's club!
Pray for Papa Francisco that he will lead RC to a right path. Because he is still human and prone to mistakes. Because evil are doing all to bring us down.
Only Jesus Christ has the authority