I’m not surprised this happened. I was in the U.S. Army and eventually you get so used to it, you realize there so many types of personalities in there, it’s just like regular life, you have dirtbags that start drama and may even put there hands on you. You just have to click the confident button when that happens and fight back knowing you’re technically fighting out of self defense being the good guy.
their* But it isn't your fault you can't write well, you were Army after all. I will give you a cheat sheet for future use though: There - A fucking place Their - Shows fucking possession They're - They fucking are
Someone post the discworld quote. From "the truth", I think. EDIT: "Words resemble fish in that some specialist ones can survive only in a kind of reef, where their curious shapes and usages are protected from the hurly-burly of the open sea. ‘Rumpus’ and ‘fracas’ are found only in certain newspapers (in much the same way that ‘beverages’ are found only in certain menus). They are never used in normal conversation. "
They didn’t see themselves as one country but 13 budding nations. The continental army was like nato. They didn’t think about the army as an “us” but rather an “us” (PA) and “them” (anyone else). This type divisiveness led to the Civil War, and can still be seen today.
Units were supported by the individual colonial governments, so there were differences in pay and supply as well as cultural differences. You are right, the vision of a single United States was yet to come.
Abraham Lincoln once commented during the civil war, if the North and South we're not divided, no outside enemy would make it far enough inland to take a drink out of the Ohio River! The reason there were so many casualties during the civil war was because it was Americans fighting Americans. (Americans are tough).
I used to go there every summer to visit my aunt and my great uncle my aunt lives in Glens Falls in Fort Ticonderoga was just up the roadways as we say here in Maine and I want the Plattsburgh New York where the Air Force Base was on Lake Champlain lot of history in Plattsburgh a lot of history there there was Cannonball still stuck in buildings from the Revolutionary War
Please. Get an education. Bottled water was not invented. IF water could even be found, it was not drinkable. Water was muddy, teeming with animal and human filth, usually pooled in ditches, open fields, and the runnels in what passed for roads. People did not drink water because to do so meant fever, gut distress, vomiting, and death. Alcohol, on the other hand was boiled as beer or ale, and fermented in wine and other spirits. AA was not something people worried about!
My theory is that the Pennsylvania guys wanted to celebrate Christmas while the Massachusetts guys didn’t. Puritanism may have been dead but Christmas was still seen as a wild party. Massachusetts guys probably had rank and were being pricks and the Pennsylvania guys rioted.
I concur. For those who don't know, the Thanksgiving pilgrims moved to Massachusetts to get away from Christmas parties. (The Bible doesn't command that we observe Jesus's birthday, and most Christmas customs are pagan or papist or partying. Even the word "Christmas" is a drunken slurring of "Christ Mass." The word "merry" meant "drunk" back then.) The men of Massachusetts may have just kept military discipline on that day.
United States Marines, born before the USA, in 1775. Known then as the Continental Marines. Recruiting station was Tun Tavern. Have a couple beers, and make your "X". Maybe those boys made the trip to Tun Tavern on Christmas Eve and felt "Frosty" afterwards. A little scrimmage to get the blood flowing, drunken fools,,lol. Merry Christmas, Dec 2024.
Well, they weren't going to pull Washington from a tent. He typically stayed in the nicest house in the area. Unlike the line officers, he wasn't salaried, he was on an expense account. He offered to be president without salary as well, just an expense account and Congress, still dealing with that bill promptly fixed his salary.
Ah ! Another delicious insight into history... you never fail to find a fascinating view of a past scene, making the still action alive, bringing them into our lives today ....this: somewhat laughable : a bunch of bored drunken louts imaging friends to be an enemy and attacking them! That's one big hangover when they wake up and realize! 😮
This one time, way back when, some folks were having a good ol' feast on a reservation. 100 Indians showed up, but Arlene Joseph had only made 50 pieces of her Jesus fry bread -- fry bread that could walk across water, fry bread that could rise from the dead. Everybody was mad! There was going to be a fry bread riot for sure! But Arlene Joseph was magic! She knew how to feed 100 Indians with only 50 pieces of fry bread: She took a piece of fry bread; she held it over her head, and she RIPPED in half! True story! With a bit of lies thrown in. If ya know, ya know.
Because this is Christmas: thid is the famous 2014: th-cam.com/video/NWF2JBb1bvM/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared .. made me cry ..i had not seen it for so long . And the war hasn't ended. And here is today: th-cam.com/video/WGB-STpSnLY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=pLOpd8blaod9t1MU&sfnsn=wa Notice: neither ad mentions their commodity they sell! That's why I compare them. The message of Love remains ...everlasting. Merry Christmas, Lance. May Love always surround you. And the unending discovery which your matièr brings you! 🎉 Thank you for asking you do.
Pennsylvania throwing down out of boredom, sounds on point.
Things never change.
The Pennsylvania lines in the Continental Army tended to be Irish while the Massholes were yankees.
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@@cisium1184 There was more Irish immigration in Massachusetts than PA. PA was more German than Irish.
Germans, Irish, pollacks, all mixed in Appalachia PA and started wrestling out of boredom. They also had the Copperheads.
I’m not surprised this happened. I was in the U.S. Army and eventually you get so used to it, you realize there so many types of personalities in there, it’s just like regular life, you have dirtbags that start drama and may even put there hands on you. You just have to click the confident button when that happens and fight back knowing you’re technically fighting out of self defense being the good guy.
their*
But it isn't your fault you can't write well, you were Army after all.
I will give you a cheat sheet for future use though:
There - A fucking place
Their - Shows fucking possession
They're - They fucking are
Story of Humanity
Ah, boredom and too much drinking. Brings back memories of port calls. 😂
Some things never change 😅
Love your content History Guy!!!
Merry Christmas!!! 🎄
History that deserves to be remembered, and learned from!
KEEP THIS MILITARY HISTORY COMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Just a soldier's fight sir, no need for court martial."
“Fracas,” now there’s a word one doesn’t often hear or see!
Well, it was either that, or "kerfuffle." Turns out, "fracas" just has more gravitas.
It's a really great word!
Someone post the discworld quote. From "the truth", I think.
EDIT: "Words resemble fish in that some specialist ones can survive only in a kind of reef, where their curious shapes and usages are protected from the hurly-burly of the open sea. ‘Rumpus’ and ‘fracas’ are found only in certain newspapers (in much the same way that ‘beverages’ are found only in certain menus). They are never used in normal conversation. "
I was going to say, there's an old joke about a man shot in the Fracus. 😐..😂😂😂
It's still used in the UK, usually in law. better than "punch up" or "drunken brawl"
I like the art on that stamp in the beginning.
Interesting point of history. Truthfully , I have never heard or read of this event. Thank you for the information !👍
Merry Christmas
History Family
Our ancestors were a scrappy bunch of folk!
Those are not your ancestors
@jolotabaniThey are mine
great short. thanks for all the interesting stories
History deserved to be remembered.
For Christmas, I bought my wife new beads for her abacus.
It's the little things that count.
Have a merry Christmas, everyone.
😊
Hahaha
Nice
Brilliant
Hmm, and a Ticonderoga-class cruiser was just involved in a (near) Christmas friendly fire incident????? Was that F/A-18 pilot from MA????
We got some great pencils outta the deal.
The dude with the red beenie!! 😂
Dude wouldn't be the last time friendly troops fought each other.
They were Mass. holes
Lol
😮
Good one have a MC
if I had a nickel for every time US. Army had a major Christmas riot I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
Incident log only entry “shit happened”
They didn’t see themselves as one country but 13 budding nations. The continental army was like nato. They didn’t think about the army as an “us” but rather an “us” (PA) and “them” (anyone else). This type divisiveness led to the Civil War, and can still be seen today.
Units were supported by the individual colonial governments, so there were differences in pay and supply as well as cultural differences. You are right, the vision of a single United States was yet to come.
Next time I watch the Celtics vs. the ‘76ers, this will come to mind.
The more things change, the more they remain the same.
Tippecanoe and Tyler too
Polly Want a Cracker?
Wrong era
Abraham Lincoln once commented during the civil war, if the North and South we're not divided, no outside enemy would make it far enough inland to take a drink out of the Ohio River!
The reason there were so many casualties during the civil war was because it was Americans fighting Americans. (Americans are tough).
Yeah but 600thousand killed is taking "tough love" a little too far don't you think. 💀
I used to go there every summer to visit my aunt and my great uncle my aunt lives in Glens Falls in Fort Ticonderoga was just up the roadways as we say here in Maine and I want the Plattsburgh New York where the Air Force Base was on Lake Champlain lot of history in Plattsburgh a lot of history there there was Cannonball still stuck in buildings from the Revolutionary War
Crazy stuff. People drank alcohol a lot and water very little. Strange behavior was probably related to that.
Please. Get an education. Bottled water was not invented. IF water could even be found, it was not drinkable. Water was muddy, teeming with animal and human filth, usually pooled in ditches, open fields, and the runnels in what passed for roads. People did not drink water because to do so meant fever, gut distress, vomiting, and death. Alcohol, on the other hand was boiled as beer or ale, and fermented in wine and other spirits. AA was not something people worried about!
Ticonderoga was also a US Navy ship. She served in the Vietnam War.
Merry Christmas everyone
"...was swept under the rug." So nothing has changed since 1776.
Himmmm grunts that are bored and have been drinking. Sounds like the perfect combo for a grunts and crafts project 😂😂😂
The U.S.: fighting amongst ourselves since 1776...
My theory is that the Pennsylvania guys wanted to celebrate Christmas while the Massachusetts guys didn’t. Puritanism may have been dead but Christmas was still seen as a wild party. Massachusetts guys probably had rank and were being pricks and the Pennsylvania guys rioted.
I concur.
For those who don't know, the Thanksgiving pilgrims moved to Massachusetts to get away from Christmas parties. (The Bible doesn't command that we observe Jesus's birthday, and most Christmas customs are pagan or papist or partying. Even the word "Christmas" is a drunken slurring of "Christ Mass." The word "merry" meant "drunk" back then.) The men of Massachusetts may have just kept military discipline on that day.
@ Which is sort of odd considering Washington was a Virginian and the Upper South was founded on the idea to get away from Puritanism!
Imagine if the British had decided to attack during the riot… they would have been so confused🤭
@percy6070 :) 😀
That fort is literally in the middle of the woods. Hard to find from land
@Trapster99 do you have coordinates? It would be such fun to discover.
The British looked at the war as Brits vs. Brits, so Massachusians vs. Pennsylvanians would probably not have confused them more than they were.
I wonder who made the best hotdogs?🤔🌭🌭🇻🇮
It was a hockey game that started it!
Fading First Light from February 2012 ,
Just some good ol boys,never meaning no harm... lol 😆
So nothing has changed in the US Mil!
Sounds like Eagles Fans.
Sounds like a friendly sports match got a little out of hand , a touch white line fever .
Have a blessed Holiday my friend
It won’t be the last Christmas riot.
Tell the story as to how Ticonderoga Was captured, at around 1:30 am, from the British with their Commandant 'Busy' with his mistress.
That demostrates what a clusterfuck of a nation the US has aleays been!
United States Marines, born before the USA, in 1775. Known then as the Continental Marines. Recruiting station was Tun Tavern. Have a couple beers, and make your "X".
Maybe those boys made the trip to Tun Tavern on Christmas Eve and felt "Frosty" afterwards. A little scrimmage to get the blood flowing, drunken fools,,lol.
Merry Christmas, Dec 2024.
Early examples of racism and secular disagreements 😮😮
Iv been there many times
Beautiful location and a top notch collection of artifacts in the museum!
Pennsylvania dragging the officers of the Massholes out of their tents... Sounds like a fair cop.
Well, they weren't going to pull Washington from a tent. He typically stayed in the nicest house in the area.
Unlike the line officers, he wasn't salaried, he was on an expense account.
He offered to be president without salary as well, just an expense account and Congress, still dealing with that bill promptly fixed his salary.
Ah ! Another delicious insight into history... you never fail to find a fascinating view of a past scene, making the still action alive, bringing them into our lives today ....this: somewhat laughable : a bunch of bored drunken louts imaging friends to be an enemy and attacking them! That's one big hangover when they wake up and realize! 😮
That is interesting.
Pennsylvania trying to cover up that the birthplace of the revolution was Massachusetts
Not surprised that the culprits were from Pennsylvania.
The incident was settled at Diddy parties
Violence typical
Isaac Higgingtoot surrendered here. 😂.
Was this the first civil war????
And just as bad, if not worse today.
that'll teach 'em!!!
USA! USA! USA!
Ah, so Philly fans have always been unable to control themselves
I think I know which one of those soldiers was responsible
wow
Must have been Eagles fans
Perfect!!!! Hahaha !!! ... being from PA this all makes sense.......and should be forgotten >^- •^
Massa..... no one can spell your state!
Wicked Difficult is spelling
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These were the immigrants from Ireland lol
This one time, way back when, some folks were having a good ol' feast on a reservation. 100 Indians showed up, but Arlene Joseph had only made 50 pieces of her Jesus fry bread -- fry bread that could walk across water, fry bread that could rise from the dead. Everybody was mad! There was going to be a fry bread riot for sure! But Arlene Joseph was magic! She knew how to feed 100 Indians with only 50 pieces of fry bread: She took a piece of fry bread; she held it over her head, and she RIPPED in half!
True story! With a bit of lies thrown in.
If ya know, ya know.
Hard to invade land that's yours
Well I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I am, however, the first comment, which surprised me more.
The British knew if you just sit back, the Americans will eventually attack each other. It's only taken 250 years but here we are.
Currently, Massachusetts and Pennsylvania are at peace. Steelers V Patriots, well now, that is football.
Pennsylvania, literally the worst state in the revolution.
Literally the best
Because this is Christmas: thid is the famous 2014: th-cam.com/video/NWF2JBb1bvM/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared .. made me cry ..i had not seen it for so long . And the war hasn't ended.
And here is today:
th-cam.com/video/WGB-STpSnLY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=pLOpd8blaod9t1MU&sfnsn=wa
Notice: neither ad mentions their commodity they sell! That's why I compare them.
The message of Love remains ...everlasting.
Merry Christmas, Lance. May Love always surround you.
And the unending discovery which your matièr brings you! 🎉
Thank you for asking you do.
What's with the lineup?
There were no bruthas arming up to support de white debble in the ranks.😅
About 3% of the continental army was Black.
Africans were fighting for both the British and Americans , and both were thrown under the bus in many ways