I was looking at the 7800 xt red devil 580 but should I get this 7900 GRE 570 thanks I heard alot about black screens computer turning off on the 7900 GRE
These benchmarks are very surprising. That card is definitely efficient and the cooling is impressive. Much appreciation to Shadow for providing the card so you could review it! 🎉
Maybe more like 7800xt is at the price of 7900 GRE? How much is it? Here 7800 xt can be as low as 540 euros. And 7900 GRE going for more than some 7900xt. Been a while since I was looking into what's what with GPUs. Seems like a total fkin mess with all the different partners shit.
4070 is still 900€ in my country and that's way to much while AMD costs just a little bit more than MSRP, whoever is buying Nvidia in my country is getting literally robbed
Well done Shadowfox. I have this GPU, picked it up for $550, and the cooler performance is impressive. 1440p high framerate without upscaling, it has exceeded my expectations. Also, that was not a "bug", AMD was making sure it sat in it's product spot during review testing, because when you OC the RAM with the core, it doesn't fit in the same spot performance wise. The powercolor uses the Samsung GDDR, which does not clock as high as models using the SK Hynix GDDR, like the Sapphire models, but there is SOOO much more left on the core. I'm running it at 20W less peak than what it comes at and it runs faster than vanilla.
@@GameOn24-365 Depends on the games I'd say. Check some benchmarks for games you play and then decide. Most multiplayer games will be much lighter to run than single player titles of the same age. But then again even going over the monitor's refresh rate can be beneficial to total latency.
It's a good benchmark! To set yourself apart from the crowd, I think something that could carve out a niche for you would be testing minecraft with shaders and 32 render distance on java which is what no other regular youtuber does at the moment as far as I know except Jansen Benchmarks (and he uses bedrock minecraft which isn't as popular)
@@ErockOnTech Java minecraft is by far the most popular because it is the most moddable even though the performance isn't quite as good as Bedrock. Something like Complementary Shaders and PTGI shaders are ones to base benchmarks on. I can give more details later, but I'm trynig to get ready for a family get-together.
That card looks "thin" by today's standards; so, very surprised with the great cooling performance! And, great review, very clean... other YTers could learn a bit from your videos :) Keep up the great work!
I build a new PC a couple of months ago wehn the 7900GRE was also available in Europe. I was thinking getting the 4070 super but when I saw all the benchmarks of the 7900GRE my choice was quickly made and I went for the Sapphire RX 7900 Pure OC (cause i did a white build) and my oh my this card is an absolute beast for it's price. Yeah sure Nvidia has better Ray tracing but I don't care about that at all. The raw power of this card is incredible. It's been called a 1440p card but I play almost all my games @ 4k easily. Undervolt this beast, crank up the memory and you have a true monster for only 550 euro. I don't regret switching from Nvidia to Amd at all.
Grabbed it 2 weeks after launch for £480 and came with (RE4) a game for my steam account. I had been holding off upgrading my 6700xt knowing Nvidia would never drop their prices to realistic for what you get. I was offered £300 for my year old 6700xt just after this launched here (Scotland) so I sold it the minute we had an offer for the 7900GRE below mrsp and the game coupon. So I was out of pocket £180 and I have been floored. It is paired up with a Ryzen 5 7600 and it is stellar. I only play in 1440p but could 4K if I wanted but that is pointless as this is just a gaming rig and I am so far off being hardcore that I play games that even the 6700xt was too much for. I just want the padding in case something comes out that isnt crap and requires a bit more from the GPU. Palworld, Elden Ring and Helldivers 2 do not ask that much from my hardware 🤣
Does RX 7900 GRE have issues screen recording and streaming to twitch etc? does the encoder have problems with low frame rates? or did AMD fix this? I'm about to buy one and i need to know
7900 GRE, at max stable OC, realize you did not have that ability at the time you made this video, on both GPU and CPU (Ryzen 7 7800x3D Max stable OC [AIO] OC) I was able to get 4k ultra and 60fps. Was able to get close to the same results with the 7800 XT and Ryzen 6 7600x, all GPUs by powercolor and I spent a lot of time tuning for max stable OC. All CPUs were water cooled and all GPUs were triple fan models and large mid tower cases decked out with 140mm fans, except the water cooler takes 3 120mm and my two bottom 120mm fans blowing intake into the GPUs. Great cards, both handle 1440p like it's nothing at ultra settings and 4k requires a lot of tweaking, but can be done. Especially with older titles. Great video, great review. You're total class mate, cheers.
I game at 4K on my personal rig. I have a 4090 and I’m fine. But back when I had a 4080, there were a few times I was a bit disappointed with the 4K performance. But it depends on what someone views as acceptable fps at 4K I guess. Also, game optimization is a huge factor these days. I don’t own Alan Wake. I won’t pay for it on the Epic Game store. I try not to buy games from there. If I didn’t include CyberPunk in my benchmarks people would complain lol. In fact, in the past they did complain lol 😂 But I completely get what you’re saying. The GRE is certainly capable of 4K in some games for sure.
My7900 xtx xfx merc still cost me 1100 dollars but I tell you what I was a big fan of evga graphics cards when the ran with team green and xfx I believe their quality is right there with evga. Cards only supposed to have 2 power plugs but has 3 says it's supposed to pull 360 watts my card on heavly load runs 428 watts sustained. Definitely recommend xfx 100 percent.
Great video! I’m still debating between the 7800, 7900 GRE, and the 7900XT when it comes to the TDP. I have a 220W GPU and was looking to upgrade but I want to keep the same PSU (750W). I know the 7800 (263W) and the 7900 GRE (260W) should be able to handle it. But if I’m aiming for the 7900XT (315W) it’s not looking so good. I get mixed information that a 750W is enough, or you need a 850W. The only reason I would be aiming for the top 1440p card is because I upgraded to a R7 5700X3D and want to pair it with the best card my PSU can handle. Any thoughts?
you can power a 7900xtx on a 750w psu, it will only use up to 350w at stock give or take, the 7900gre and below are even lower at 263 watts the main reason they even recommend 750w or 850w in the first place is because people buy god-awful power supplies that can't even do 450w out of its advertised 750w rating, especially on crappy Apevias and the like. you won't have issues powering any gpu on your 750w psu assuming its a good model and internal OEM.
@@BodethIII 100% facts. I would (and do!) run TOP QUALITY 650w PSUs above no name or half name 800+ models. PSUs are all about the quality. They are the most important component in your entire PC build, and indeed the rest of them live or burn based only on that PSU choice. Literally. So many people skimp out of them, or just go for bigger numbers. Big mistake!
First time building a PC what would be a better combo, using the MicroCenter CPU bundles, a Ryzen 7800X3D with 7900 GRE ($1080) or Ryzen 7700X with 7900 XT($1120). Mostly gonna try to hit 4K or Ultra 1440P on a 4K 144 hz monitor. Also plan to use the PC for work if required if that makes a difference in choosing the CPU. Thoughts?
Not to mention better Rasterization and 4 extra gbs of vram over the 4070 Only thing the 4070 has going for it is better ray tracing and the dlss 3 but that introduces some input lag
"Like Butter" folks ive had this card for a bit now (I don't like upscaling, I like to play as the game was designed without, an equalizer. maybe that a budget and wants conversation.), I was lucky enough to get it at MSRP. this card is the Lexus of GPUs its not the Mercedes or Porche, Its the Lexus - its fast enough to whatever you want it to do. like butter. Most people are at 1440p these days, 1440p no problem. easy over clocking - no problem the card does what main stream people want it to do... and dudes - it does video well too ( I say this because, I like when a MOBO company puts effort in the sound experience via its sound chip - icing.). For me this is the best value card on the market, if you can find it for retail, even if not. its a solid card if it fits you're budget, pull the trigger.
Thanks for the video. Call me crazy, but I’m debating between 6950xt and 7900gre. Price to performance I feel like 6950xt is better. Am I wrong? Would I be doing myself a disservice by going with the older gen card? Building for first time in 10 years 😅
I personally opted for the GRE because it 1) will get better driver support going forward 2) is a hell of a lot more power efficient 3) much easier to get your hands on (availability)
I mainly game 1440p high or ultra. 2 ultra wide monitors. I want to try 4K on my tv but mainly nah. Your GRE videos have me intrigued but I’m concerned future games will be kaput on this card for that.
Got mine a few days ago....so damn good; WAY more performance than I expected. Not sure what qualifies as being a '4k card' if ultra settings and 60-120 fps isn't sufficient? Just don't enable RT! Also, just install the drivers in minimal mode... the Adrenalin software is pretty amazing feature-wise, but holy shit they crippled my system after 2 days....black screens, restarts, games crashing on launch. Insane instability after 2 decades of relatively smooth sailing with nvidia.
Thank you so much for this video! Are there any main differences I should be aware of between the Hellhound and Fighter models? The fighter is on sale for $499 right now.
thanks for review. I will buy 7900 GRE for my PC with Quest 3 VR. I need 16GB VRAM ... and Nvidia option is way more expensive(4060 super or TI). I believe that VR game doesn't even support Ray Tracing so I will choose AMD Radeon path. I am still kind of puzzled between 7800XT and 7900 GRE as you explain in this video.. It would be almost same to my situation.. so I will buy whatever options I actually have in Micro Center in Dallas, TX. :)
I think you REALLY should have compared the Ray Tracing against the 7800XT (but I'm guessing you don't own that card, so using someone else's number would have been fine in this case... for me.. maybe using Hardware Unboxed numbers would have been acceptable... but running your own benches on the GRW :) ) because of the the TON of extra CU's compared to the 7800XT ... The RT performance is a MUCH larger increase compared to the 7800XT than the rasterization increase, and I REALLY think that counts for something..... I would say this is AMD's best 'bang for buck' RT card, which is saying A LOT lol..... I just hope they get those new drivers and unlock the OC capability of the GRE.... if they do before summer starts I'm gonna toss my 6650XT and get this beauty..... BUT if they don't I'm just gonna go with the high end 8000 series, which is rumored to be a bit faster than the XTX at about half the price (if you didn't already hear, the 8000 series isn't going to have a 'high end' .. like the RX 480 family of cards.... so AMD is going for VALUE while they work the kinks out of the MCM design, and pump up the RT performance for RDNA 5/9000 series) - So the value of the GRE is just a little taste of what RDNA4/8000 will be like... which I think is GREAT for the economic situation right now :)
I don’t own the 7800 XT, 7900 XT, or the GRE. All 3 cards were loaned to me by my subscribers/Patreon members. I wanted to be mindful of their time and get the cards back in a timely fashion. I did save the GRE for last as I was hoping the driver update would have released by now. But sadly not. In case you didn’t know, I do have reviews on the channel for the 7800 XT and 7900 XT as well. I heard briefly that AMD wasn’t doing the high end for the 8000 series. I wasn’t sure if it was official yet or not. Thank you for the information!
Hi there, i have powercolor RX6700 Red devil version, im playing single player games and always use vertical sync, yes im wierd. I play everything on 60 fps. So im deciding to go for rx 7900 gre (powercolor). Im afraid of some mining boom or something. So want to get something powerfull. Do i stay calm and wait for future generation gpu or buy today. Im happy with my RX6700. I dont know what to do. Wait or buy :(
My honest opinion is don’t waste the money. What I mean is the GRE is a great GPU if you need one. But if you’re happy with your current gaming experience, then why spend the money?
Bro!!! I just bought 2 on sale on Amazon now!!!! Hellbound for $350!!! The Red Devil is $320!!! Thank me later!!! The bad thing about my purchase is I have an all white PC with a now black GPU. OOOOOOH EFFIN WELL!!!
I have a question that might sound stupid but still if anyone can reply please reply Question: does 7900gre supports in ddr4 motherboard with ddr4 ram ?
It's currently locked. AMD said it was a "bug" and will be unlocking it for overclocking "soon." Currently most models past the reference are already clocked as high as they can be
No. As I said in the video, there is a bug related to the overclocking for the GRE. AMD has said they are working on a fix for it. So that is why I didn’t try to overclock it.
Only about half the games tested here didn't reach 60fps at 4K with Ultra settings and native resolution. I'd challenge the assessment that this is a 1440p GPU. I mean, yes, if you need a GPU to reach high framerats natively at ultra settings in every game, then I guess it is. But ALL of these games tested would reach 60fps at 4K either with very minor settings tweaks and/or Quality level upscaling. Granted, the upscaler is FSR instead of DLSS, but I'll wager it's still passable. Add to that the ability to overclock, which the 7900 GRE seems pretty strong at because of the low memory speeds at stock. Then again, the RX 7900 XT has come down in price so much recently that it's not that far away anymore. The price difference used to be around 200 dollars, but can be almost half that now.
I beg to differ. If a card is screaming, I don’t want it personally. But to each their own. According to the website, if the temperature is below 60c, the fans don’t spin. Here is a link for reference. www.powercolor.com/product?id=1704700346
not really, the average is around 40-50 fps on normal titles and the more demanding it gets the worse these gpus perform . Unfortunately nvidia's dlss is better than amd's fsr , so games on 4k run at better framerate than amd (with dlss). If you exclude dlss or fsr , then both at this price range dont go for 60 average except if you lower the settings (assuming high settings means high shadows , textures and all of the good stuff). I would recommend 1440p maxed out gaming with these cards than 4k for the performance and the stability since at 4k they stutter a bit . And lets be honest , for 600 bucks you are not getting good experience 4k , if you want it then go for the 4090 or rx 7900 xtx , etc. EDIT: in most games at high settings you can infact get 60 fps average at 4k , but it also depends on the game and if the GRE is overclocked or not . If overclocked then it can easily do its job at 60fps high settings but forget ultra . On the other hand nvidia dlss can run even ultra at around 80-90 fps on some of the more powerful gpus that cost like 50 dollars more.
@@allex975gaming ""On the other hand nvidia dlss can run even ultra at around 80-90 fps on some of the more powerful gpus that cost like 50 dollars more."" Such as? 4070S 12GB?
@@kliibapz depending on the country yes . The 4070 super can do well with dlss in 4k (no raytracing) . If you want raytracing go for the 4070 super ti etc.
So how come tech reviewers rarely ever use the cheapest version of a card for benchmarking? Like yeah we should know what the best card can do but i think it would be more beneficial for people to know what the cheapest variant would be able to accomplish like ASRock i think usually has the cheapest variant.
depends on the price , if the 7800xt costs at least 30 dollars less then take it , from what i see a 7 percent increase for the gre isnt that great since they perform almost the same . Now i dont understand what you mean by 650w or 700w , but if you are asking about a PSU wattage then get at least a 700w minimum , because these cards alone waste around 300w and including the other components of the pc it would be close to 600 if not more . Also make sure you get a power efficient psu at that price so you dont waste energy as much.
depends on the price . If you can find the 7 7700x for around 250 its worth it over the normal 7 7700 at 220ish . If not then the 7800x3d is great at around 300-350 but remember , both are great and dont bottleneck the gpus . On the other hand if you want to do 3d editing and want to utilize the cores to the max , go for the more expensive but better performance cpu. Also google has you covered with the abilities of each one. If you have the money then get the more expensive , if not it doesnt make a huge difference . (and dont forget , the ryzen 7 7700x is a ryzen 7 7700 but with higher voltage , so you could still get the normal 7 7700 and get the same performance as the 7 7700x , the only thing is that they dont give you a stock cooler and you get like 0.2 less ghz for the cores ).
Idk if i should get 7900gre or 6950xt (ik 6950xt is slightly better but it consumes at lot of watts to do so) therefore idk what to do help meee pleaseeee
im about to buy rx 7900 gre or rx 7900 xt for 1440p gaming. but is it a good idea to buy rx 7900 xt today june of 2024? or should I wait for next gen and gpus or am I good to go with rx 7900 GRE? please help @ErockOnTech
It really depends on what you will be playing. Looking quickly at some benchmarks, the GRE seems to be faster in rasterization. Plus the GRE has more VRAM.
I think its really dishonest to claim the card "isnt for 4k" yet in a ton of games is sitting over 60 fps on ultra settings without fsr when 90% of people do not play games on ultra settings in general no matter the resolution. Not being able to handle ray tracing is also not an issue for the general population as ray tracing/path tracing in games is still lacking in quality to the point of just looking bad in several titles.
Nothing dishonest about it. It’s a standard. If you think 4K 58 fps in some games makes it a 4K card, then great. Do you. Thats not my standard. Also, the marketing for the card is 1440p. Not 4K. So how is it dishonest when the marketing says it’s 1440p?
Sorry I didn’t overly track that. I can tell you this though. I used the OC switch on the card. I left all settings in Adrenaline Software set to default. I made no changes. And according to the PowerColor website, if the temperature is below 60c, then the fans don’t spin. As you see in my benchmarks, the GPU never hit 60c. Here is the link for reference. www.powercolor.com/product?id=1704700346
This card holds 1,100 RPM and is near inaudible at 100% load. If you start to hear the fans or the speed increases, it may be time to remove dust. The thermal and acoustic performance of this Hell Hound edition Power Color are both extremely good!
yes , a ryzen 7 5700x is good enough for a 4070 and an RX 7900xt so it should work fine . It has 8 cores with good speed so it shouldnt cause much of an underperformance. BUt as a general rule of thumb , the better the cpu , the better the performance of the gpu . For example a Ryzen 7 7800x3d will outperform the one you recommended but the difference isnt much in terms of fps . I personally havent used the 7 5700x but from the looks of it (the specs) it should perform fine . It also depends on the motherboard since we are talking about a higher end gpu with an AM4 chipset motherboard which usually is slower than a AM5 motherboard . You should do some research about the specifics and then decide . But if you want a graphics card to pair with then get a 7800xt . It should perform the same as the 7900GRE at that point.
Bro thank you for your time to response. I was thinking to get the 7800xt anyways but after your message i'm sure 7800xt will be next gpu not gre or another one.
I have no idea but i gót rx 7900gre plus r9 3900x overclocked to all gears to 4.2ghz and undervolt ed to 1.275000 and yeah on 1440p native ultra settings this gives mé 122fps on avarage plus 1%low is 105fps and lowest are 88fps😂😂😂 im fine i guess. And small reminder the benchmark is fine but IF you are playing game in heavy crouded areas well the game droping your fps way more than 88fps plus after cyberpunk 2.0 and higher specially with phantom liberty this game love to chew the CPU and literally all cpus are struggle in this game still.
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It was definitely was meant to stack up against the 40 series and it does, in both performance and price
I managed to pick up the XFX one for £520, about £90 of which were import costs from the US.
its goos when you overclock the Vram on it
I was looking at the 7800 xt red devil 580 but should I get this 7900 GRE 570 thanks I heard alot about black screens computer turning off on the 7900 GRE
@@fiftymk_fox4914For that price, get the GRE.
THANK YOU ShadowFoxBih!! I've been waiting for somebody to do the GRE!
I hope you enjoyed the video and found value in it!
Let's fricking go shadowfoxbih
I know right!
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These benchmarks are very surprising. That card is definitely efficient and the cooling is impressive. Much appreciation to Shadow for providing the card so you could review it! 🎉
Yes, I was very impressed with the colling capabilities of the 7900 GRE PowerColor Hellhound.
7900 GRE is same price as 7800 xt in my country and some other countries. it is a good deal
Yes.
where you live
@@borberk850 Türkiye
Maybe more like 7800xt is at the price of 7900 GRE? How much is it? Here 7800 xt can be as low as 540 euros. And 7900 GRE going for more than some 7900xt. Been a while since I was looking into what's what with GPUs. Seems like a total fkin mess with all the different partners shit.
4070 is still 900€ in my country and that's way to much while AMD costs just a little bit more than MSRP, whoever is buying Nvidia in my country is getting literally robbed
Well done Shadowfox. I have this GPU, picked it up for $550, and the cooler performance is impressive.
1440p high framerate without upscaling, it has exceeded my expectations.
Also, that was not a "bug", AMD was making sure it sat in it's product spot during review testing, because when you OC the RAM with the core, it doesn't fit in the same spot performance wise.
The powercolor uses the Samsung GDDR, which does not clock as high as models using the SK Hynix GDDR, like the Sapphire models, but there is SOOO much more left on the core.
I'm running it at 20W less peak than what it comes at and it runs faster than vanilla.
THANK YOU ShadowFoxBih!!
Thanks for covering this card. Im still debating lol
No problem! Thanks for watching! Lol, man you gotta upgrade!
Get it bro its so worth it i just got the hellhound and it is sooo goood
Man, your videos are top quality, wish you the best
Thank you so much! I really appreciate that!
Loved the review! TY Shadow!
Thank you 🙏 and yeah Shadow is awesome!
Obviously it's meant for 1440p but this is still a very solid 4k card
It's not obviously meant for 1440p. It completely depends which game and what settings.
@@Ziplock9000 Bruh shut up dump ****
is it overkill for 1080p 144hz
@@GameOn24-365yes.
@@GameOn24-365 Depends on the games I'd say. Check some benchmarks for games you play and then decide. Most multiplayer games will be much lighter to run than single player titles of the same age. But then again even going over the monitor's refresh rate can be beneficial to total latency.
It's a good benchmark! To set yourself apart from the crowd, I think something that could carve out a niche for you would be testing minecraft with shaders and 32 render distance on java which is what no other regular youtuber does at the moment as far as I know except Jansen Benchmarks (and he uses bedrock minecraft which isn't as popular)
I’ll take this into consideration. Thanks for sharing this. If I do Minecraft, which one specifically is relevant?
@@ErockOnTech Java minecraft is by far the most popular because it is the most moddable even though the performance isn't quite as good as Bedrock. Something like Complementary Shaders and PTGI shaders are ones to base benchmarks on.
I can give more details later, but I'm trynig to get ready for a family get-together.
@@ofon2000No problem! I appreciate the feedback!
That card looks "thin" by today's standards; so, very surprised with the great cooling performance! And, great review, very clean... other YTers could learn a bit from your videos :) Keep up the great work!
Very kind of you to say! Thank you! I was surprised by the cooling of the card for sure.
I build a new PC a couple of months ago wehn the 7900GRE was also available in Europe. I was thinking getting the 4070 super but when I saw all the benchmarks of the 7900GRE my choice was quickly made and I went for the Sapphire RX 7900 Pure OC (cause i did a white build) and my oh my this card is an absolute beast for it's price. Yeah sure Nvidia has better Ray tracing but I don't care about that at all. The raw power of this card is incredible. It's been called a 1440p card but I play almost all my games @ 4k easily. Undervolt this beast, crank up the memory and you have a true monster for only 550 euro. I don't regret switching from Nvidia to Amd at all.
That’s awesome! Thanks for sharing this information and your experience with me.
How does that card do with editing ???
Grabbed it 2 weeks after launch for £480 and came with (RE4) a game for my steam account. I had been holding off upgrading my 6700xt knowing Nvidia would never drop their prices to realistic for what you get. I was offered £300 for my year old 6700xt just after this launched here (Scotland) so I sold it the minute we had an offer for the 7900GRE below mrsp and the game coupon. So I was out of pocket £180 and I have been floored. It is paired up with a Ryzen 5 7600 and it is stellar. I only play in 1440p but could 4K if I wanted but that is pointless as this is just a gaming rig and I am so far off being hardcore that I play games that even the 6700xt was too much for. I just want the padding in case something comes out that isnt crap and requires a bit more from the GPU. Palworld, Elden Ring and Helldivers 2 do not ask that much from my hardware 🤣
Hey, I have R5 7600 too. Is there any bottleneck? Did you test 1080p?
There will be a bit of a bottleneck on 1080p, but the higher the resolution the less of a bottleneck it will be.
@@kliibapz This GPU works better at higher res.
Does RX 7900 GRE have issues screen recording and streaming to twitch etc? does the encoder have problems with low frame rates? or did AMD fix this? I'm about to buy one and i need to know
7900 GRE, at max stable OC, realize you did not have that ability at the time you made this video, on both GPU and CPU (Ryzen 7 7800x3D Max stable OC [AIO] OC) I was able to get 4k ultra and 60fps. Was able to get close to the same results with the 7800 XT and Ryzen 6 7600x, all GPUs by powercolor and I spent a lot of time tuning for max stable OC. All CPUs were water cooled and all GPUs were triple fan models and large mid tower cases decked out with 140mm fans, except the water cooler takes 3 120mm and my two bottom 120mm fans blowing intake into the GPUs.
Great cards, both handle 1440p like it's nothing at ultra settings and 4k requires a lot of tweaking, but can be done. Especially with older titles. Great video, great review. You're total class mate, cheers.
Seems to me that if you take CP77 and Alan Wake out... which most people would... this is actually a 4k entry card.
I game at 4K on my personal rig. I have a 4090 and I’m fine. But back when I had a 4080, there were a few times I was a bit disappointed with the 4K performance. But it depends on what someone views as acceptable fps at 4K I guess. Also, game optimization is a huge factor these days. I don’t own Alan Wake. I won’t pay for it on the Epic Game store. I try not to buy games from there. If I didn’t include CyberPunk in my benchmarks people would complain lol. In fact, in the past they did complain lol 😂
But I completely get what you’re saying. The GRE is certainly capable of 4K in some games for sure.
My7900 xtx xfx merc still cost me 1100 dollars but I tell you what I was a big fan of evga graphics cards when the ran with team green and xfx I believe their quality is right there with evga. Cards only supposed to have 2 power plugs but has 3 says it's supposed to pull 360 watts my card on heavly load runs 428 watts sustained. Definitely recommend xfx 100 percent.
I miss EVGA.
Great video! I’m still debating between the 7800, 7900 GRE, and the 7900XT when it comes to the TDP. I have a 220W GPU and was looking to upgrade but I want to keep the same PSU (750W). I know the 7800 (263W) and the 7900 GRE (260W) should be able to handle it. But if I’m aiming for the 7900XT (315W) it’s not looking so good. I get mixed information that a 750W is enough, or you need a 850W.
The only reason I would be aiming for the top 1440p card is because I upgraded to a R7 5700X3D and want to pair it with the best card my PSU can handle.
Any thoughts?
you can power a 7900xtx on a 750w psu, it will only use up to 350w at stock give or take, the 7900gre and below are even lower at 263 watts
the main reason they even recommend 750w or 850w in the first place is because people buy god-awful power supplies that can't even do 450w out of its advertised 750w rating, especially on crappy Apevias and the like.
you won't have issues powering any gpu on your 750w psu assuming its a good model and internal OEM.
Your 750w is fine.
@@BodethIII 100% facts. I would (and do!) run TOP QUALITY 650w PSUs above no name or half name 800+ models. PSUs are all about the quality. They are the most important component in your entire PC build, and indeed the rest of them live or burn based only on that PSU choice. Literally. So many people skimp out of them, or just go for bigger numbers. Big mistake!
@@KenjiFoxlol I have a 600 psu, my 7900 gre runs just fine too
very well done like this revieuw !
What do you think about the Asrock challenger OC 7900 gre edition? Is there problems in the tempreature
I got this as a gift from my sister, the Gigabyte model, and i absolutely love it. Its definatly worht the price
Seems like a good option if you were considering the RTX 7090 Ti Super.
First time building a PC what would be a better combo, using the MicroCenter CPU bundles, a Ryzen 7800X3D with 7900 GRE ($1080) or Ryzen 7700X with 7900 XT($1120). Mostly gonna try to hit 4K or Ultra 1440P on a 4K 144 hz monitor. Also plan to use the PC for work if required if that makes a difference in choosing the CPU. Thoughts?
For your use case, use the second option. 7700x and 7900XT.
@@ErockOnTech I appreciate it
@@ErockOnTechhello may I get you opinion on my build
And get 165 hz 32” 4k monitor to match the performance
+10% cost results in > +10% performance is a 1:1 increase ratio. Its reasonable and minimal ratio to make the move.
Ready to buy a gre, was gonna buy a 4070 but it seems the gre gets the same performance as a 4070ti for the same price as a 4070.
Not to mention better Rasterization and 4 extra gbs of vram over the 4070 Only thing the 4070 has going for it is better ray tracing and the dlss 3 but that introduces some input lag
I noticed the 14900K has a higher percentage use when gaming at 1440p ultra compared to 4K ultra.
How about 3800X with 7900GRE to play games at 1440P resolution? For example, COD21?
"Like Butter" folks ive had this card for a bit now (I don't like upscaling, I like to play as the game was designed without, an equalizer. maybe that a budget and wants conversation.), I was lucky enough to get it at MSRP. this card is the Lexus of GPUs its not the Mercedes or Porche, Its the Lexus - its fast enough to whatever you want it to do. like butter. Most people are at 1440p these days, 1440p no problem. easy over clocking - no problem the card does what main stream people want it to do... and dudes - it does video well too ( I say this because, I like when a MOBO company puts effort in the sound experience via its sound chip - icing.). For me this is the best value card on the market, if you can find it for retail, even if not. its a solid card if it fits you're budget, pull the trigger.
got the XFX 'barebones' 7900GRE. happy camper in 1440p gaming, worth the upgrade from 6600xt
I’ve been watching this card for my next upgrade. I was stuck between the red Devil or a 4070 super for 1440p
Thank you shadowfoxbih ❤. I believe that this is a 4k capable card as well.
is 7600x cpu enough for this? im eyeing this over the 4070 super!
yes it is
Thanks for the video. Call me crazy, but I’m debating between 6950xt and 7900gre. Price to performance I feel like 6950xt is better. Am I wrong? Would I be doing myself a disservice by going with the older gen card? Building for first time in 10 years 😅
I personally opted for the GRE because it 1) will get better driver support going forward 2) is a hell of a lot more power efficient 3) much easier to get your hands on (availability)
I mainly game 1440p high or ultra. 2 ultra wide monitors. I want to try 4K on my tv but mainly nah. Your GRE videos have me intrigued but I’m concerned future games will be kaput on this card for that.
Iv got it its fantastic does everything in ultra settings easily
Got mine a few days ago....so damn good; WAY more performance than I expected. Not sure what qualifies as being a '4k card' if ultra settings and 60-120 fps isn't sufficient? Just don't enable RT! Also, just install the drivers in minimal mode... the Adrenalin software is pretty amazing feature-wise, but holy shit they crippled my system after 2 days....black screens, restarts, games crashing on launch. Insane instability after 2 decades of relatively smooth sailing with nvidia.
At 4:58 what do you mean by overclock switch on gpu, is it an actual switch on the GPU itself?
for 1440p seems great gpu. Mostly you can push it around 100fps, but for 4k it isn't good
I agree.
@@ErockOnTech since the release they lifted the oc limit on this one, so with a slight undervolting and overclocking this one rocks 4k as well.
Thank you so much for this video! Are there any main differences I should be aware of between the Hellhound and Fighter models? The fighter is on sale for $499 right now.
How’s the coil whine on the hellhound? Heard they could have it and not have it
thanks for review. I will buy 7900 GRE for my PC with Quest 3 VR. I need 16GB VRAM ... and Nvidia option is way more expensive(4060 super or TI). I believe that VR game doesn't even support Ray Tracing so I will choose AMD Radeon path.
I am still kind of puzzled between 7800XT and 7900 GRE as you explain in this video..
It would be almost same to my situation.. so I will buy whatever options I actually have in Micro Center in Dallas, TX. :)
I think you REALLY should have compared the Ray Tracing against the 7800XT (but I'm guessing you don't own that card, so using someone else's number would have been fine in this case... for me.. maybe using Hardware Unboxed numbers would have been acceptable... but running your own benches on the GRW :) ) because of the the TON of extra CU's compared to the 7800XT ... The RT performance is a MUCH larger increase compared to the 7800XT than the rasterization increase, and I REALLY think that counts for something..... I would say this is AMD's best 'bang for buck' RT card, which is saying A LOT lol..... I just hope they get those new drivers and unlock the OC capability of the GRE.... if they do before summer starts I'm gonna toss my 6650XT and get this beauty..... BUT if they don't I'm just gonna go with the high end 8000 series, which is rumored to be a bit faster than the XTX at about half the price (if you didn't already hear, the 8000 series isn't going to have a 'high end' .. like the RX 480 family of cards.... so AMD is going for VALUE while they work the kinks out of the MCM design, and pump up the RT performance for RDNA 5/9000 series) - So the value of the GRE is just a little taste of what RDNA4/8000 will be like... which I think is GREAT for the economic situation right now :)
I don’t own the 7800 XT, 7900 XT, or the GRE. All 3 cards were loaned to me by my subscribers/Patreon members. I wanted to be mindful of their time and get the cards back in a timely fashion. I did save the GRE for last as I was hoping the driver update would have released by now. But sadly not. In case you didn’t know, I do have reviews on the channel for the 7800 XT and 7900 XT as well. I heard briefly that AMD wasn’t doing the high end for the 8000 series. I wasn’t sure if it was official yet or not. Thank you for the information!
GRE doesn't work with my MSI b650 board without flashing bios back to november 2023 :(
its simple for me 16gb , class and best value - The question is 6800/XT or GRE in my opinion
every time AMD release something its not on stock, instead i bought a white palit 4070 ti super gaming pro, love it so far, rock stable
Oh you mean it’s not in stock in your area?
I have the 7900gre and it’s great 👍 most power I’ve ever had in a pc lol
How well does it push Ray tracing compared to the 7800xt?
About the same. Not much of a difference.
Hi there, i have powercolor RX6700 Red devil version, im playing single player games and always use vertical sync, yes im wierd. I play everything on 60 fps. So im deciding to go for rx 7900 gre (powercolor). Im afraid of some mining boom or something. So want to get something powerfull. Do i stay calm and wait for future generation gpu or buy today. Im happy with my RX6700. I dont know what to do. Wait or buy :(
My honest opinion is don’t waste the money. What I mean is the GRE is a great GPU if you need one. But if you’re happy with your current gaming experience, then why spend the money?
Bro!!! I just bought 2 on sale on Amazon now!!!! Hellbound for $350!!! The Red Devil is $320!!! Thank me later!!!
The bad thing about my purchase is I have an all white PC with a now black GPU. OOOOOOH EFFIN WELL!!!
Great deal!
GL with that cpu man :D
I have a question that might sound stupid but still if anyone can reply please reply
Question: does 7900gre supports in ddr4 motherboard with ddr4 ram ?
When you ran Helldivers 2 what sampling did you use? The native? or ultra super sampling?
Native.
I got the 7800XT and paired it with a 5800X3D 32 GB of CL 14 Ram.Question did you try overclocking the graphics card of the 7900GRE wondering?
It's currently locked. AMD said it was a "bug" and will be unlocking it for overclocking "soon."
Currently most models past the reference are already clocked as high as they can be
No. As I said in the video, there is a bug related to the overclocking for the GRE. AMD has said they are working on a fix for it. So that is why I didn’t try to overclock it.
If you have added a 4070s to this review it would have been a perfect comparison
I would have if I had a 4070 Super. Sadly, I don't. I'm working on it.
Only about half the games tested here didn't reach 60fps at 4K with Ultra settings and native resolution. I'd challenge the assessment that this is a 1440p GPU. I mean, yes, if you need a GPU to reach high framerats natively at ultra settings in every game, then I guess it is. But ALL of these games tested would reach 60fps at 4K either with very minor settings tweaks and/or Quality level upscaling. Granted, the upscaler is FSR instead of DLSS, but I'll wager it's still passable. Add to that the ability to overclock, which the 7900 GRE seems pretty strong at because of the low memory speeds at stock.
Then again, the RX 7900 XT has come down in price so much recently that it's not that far away anymore. The price difference used to be around 200 dollars, but can be almost half that now.
Wich gre version is better ? Gigabyte, xfx or powercolor? Are they the same ?
I use the xfx, but you should decide between power color, XFX, sapphire!
Incredibly impressive video))
7800 XT or 7900 GRE and which cpu to pair with it
Pair it with a 7800X3D. 7800 XT is better value.
@@ErockOnTech Thanks a lot bro
@@ErockOnTechany cheaper cpu cuz here in India 7800x3d is way too expensive
@@vardhan8995Check for the 7700X.
so can I expect 4k 60 on high settings for most new AAA games?
High? Possibly yes. Ultra probably not. But AMD just released the over clocking update. The GRE is a LOT better now.
ShadowfoxBih is 🗿 I needed a benchmark to compare it against 4070 ti :D
the card can do 4k on high settings also if you guys want to know
Is the 7800Xt or 7900 GRE good for 7800X3d for 1080p 27 inches triple screen?
Both can handle 1440p easily.
Pls show rpm, it wouldnt matter if the card would scream out of your pc to get good temperatures
I beg to differ. If a card is screaming, I don’t want it personally. But to each their own. According to the website, if the temperature is below 60c, the fans don’t spin. Here is a link for reference. www.powercolor.com/product?id=1704700346
Which is why i asked for rpm to get a clue for noise lvls / if it screams or not @@ErockOnTech
@@angrydlc I understand. The card did not scream. It was fine. I don't know the RPM level. Sorry. I no longer have the card.
So you can say that this custom specifically of the gre is the best, right?
For performance Obviously
Question, is this gpu enough for a 4k with fsr, high settings, 60fps experience?
not really, the average is around 40-50 fps on normal titles and the more demanding it gets the worse these gpus perform . Unfortunately nvidia's dlss is better than amd's fsr , so games on 4k run at better framerate than amd (with dlss). If you exclude dlss or fsr , then both at this price range dont go for 60 average except if you lower the settings (assuming high settings means high shadows , textures and all of the good stuff). I would recommend 1440p maxed out gaming with these cards than 4k for the performance and the stability since at 4k they stutter a bit . And lets be honest , for 600 bucks you are not getting good experience 4k , if you want it then go for the 4090 or rx 7900 xtx , etc.
EDIT: in most games at high settings you can infact get 60 fps average at 4k , but it also depends on the game and if the GRE is overclocked or not . If overclocked then it can easily do its job at 60fps high settings but forget ultra . On the other hand nvidia dlss can run even ultra at around 80-90 fps on some of the more powerful gpus that cost like 50 dollars more.
@@allex975gaming ""On the other hand nvidia dlss can run even ultra at around 80-90 fps on some of the more powerful gpus that cost like 50 dollars more.""
Such as? 4070S 12GB?
@@kliibapz depending on the country yes . The 4070 super can do well with dlss in 4k (no raytracing) . If you want raytracing go for the 4070 super ti etc.
I thought I would have as good temps on the sapphire nitro GRE I'm hitting 68-70c, maybe its my case?
Possibly. Or the fan configuration. Or it could just be the Saphire is decent but the cooler isn’t the same as this Hellhound.
Which one is the best brand? Hellhound? Sapphire?
Sapphire, no doubt
I've only tested the HellHound. The cooler is incredible on it. But that is about all I know.
Hi
What is a hotspot temp and gpu/hotspot delta on full load?
Thx in advance.
you really like that red t-shirt xD
It’s part of the brand! 😎
So how come tech reviewers rarely ever use the cheapest version of a card for benchmarking? Like yeah we should know what the best card can do but i think it would be more beneficial for people to know what the cheapest variant would be able to accomplish like ASRock i think usually has the cheapest variant.
Tech TH-camrs use whatever is sent to us. A subscriber sent me this card. I didn’t get to choose it.
I know it’s a bottle neck, but would the 7800xt or 7900GRE be better for me ryzen 5 5500? And what 650w or 700w would anyone recommend??
depends on the price , if the 7800xt costs at least 30 dollars less then take it , from what i see a 7 percent increase for the gre isnt that great since they perform almost the same . Now i dont understand what you mean by 650w or 700w , but if you are asking about a PSU wattage then get at least a 700w minimum , because these cards alone waste around 300w and including the other components of the pc it would be close to 600 if not more . Also make sure you get a power efficient psu at that price so you dont waste energy as much.
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GREat review. GREat value.
Thank you!
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and here my 7900gre is overheating at 1080p qwq i dont even know why ..
Shoukd i do 7 7700x with 7900 GRE/ 4070 super
Or 7800x3d with 7900GRE/ 4070 super what would u recommend
depends on the price . If you can find the 7 7700x for around 250 its worth it over the normal 7 7700 at 220ish . If not then the 7800x3d is great at around 300-350 but remember , both are great and dont bottleneck the gpus . On the other hand if you want to do 3d editing and want to utilize the cores to the max , go for the more expensive but better performance cpu. Also google has you covered with the abilities of each one. If you have the money then get the more expensive , if not it doesnt make a huge difference . (and dont forget , the ryzen 7 7700x is a ryzen 7 7700 but with higher voltage , so you could still get the normal 7 7700 and get the same performance as the 7 7700x , the only thing is that they dont give you a stock cooler and you get like 0.2 less ghz for the cores ).
@@allex975gaming sounds good and appreciate the help
Idk if i should get 7900gre or 6950xt (ik 6950xt is slightly better but it consumes at lot of watts to do so) therefore idk what to do help meee pleaseeee
Definetely 7900 gre. It's future proof.
here after I bought it, and don't have it yet either
Where do you buy your gpus
@@justalonelyboi8939 Microcenter or Best Buy.
@@ErockOnTech ty
@@justalonelyboi8939 No problem.
Is the ryzen 7 good to pire with the 7900 gre
Can you please tell us the hotspot temps while gaming ?
I’m sorry I missed that. I’ll consider that for future AMD GPU reviews. Thank you 🙏
Thanks Shadow
Shadowfox for the win!
I know right!
When the manufacturer ships a card overclocked, it's not an overclock.
Yes it is. You, yourself are not overclocking it by owning it and using it, but it is still an overclock for that chipset.
LETS GO SHADOWFOXBiH
How would this compare to my 6700xt I’m looking to upgrade
I'm in the same boat, just ordered a 7900 GRE and I'm upgrading from a 6700xt. I'll get back to you in a week or two.
@@medicinalcyanide1582 thank you
im about to buy rx 7900 gre or rx 7900 xt for 1440p gaming. but is it a good idea to buy rx 7900 xt today june of 2024? or should I wait for next gen and gpus or am I good to go with rx 7900 GRE? please help @ErockOnTech
What should i get if the 4070 super and the rx 7900gre is the same price?
no brain for 4070s
It really depends on what you will be playing. Looking quickly at some benchmarks, the GRE seems to be faster in rasterization. Plus the GRE has more VRAM.
@@ErockOnTech just got the rx 7900 gre and I'm super happy with it
Temps are great,testing in iglu....
I think its really dishonest to claim the card "isnt for 4k" yet in a ton of games is sitting over 60 fps on ultra settings without fsr when 90% of people do not play games on ultra settings in general no matter the resolution. Not being able to handle ray tracing is also not an issue for the general population as ray tracing/path tracing in games is still lacking in quality to the point of just looking bad in several titles.
Nothing dishonest about it. It’s a standard. If you think 4K 58 fps in some games makes it a 4K card, then great. Do you. Thats not my standard. Also, the marketing for the card is 1440p. Not 4K. So how is it dishonest when the marketing says it’s 1440p?
RPM ?
Sorry I didn’t overly track that. I can tell you this though. I used the OC switch on the card. I left all settings in Adrenaline Software set to default. I made no changes. And according to the PowerColor website, if the temperature is below 60c, then the fans don’t spin. As you see in my benchmarks, the GPU never hit 60c. Here is the link for reference. www.powercolor.com/product?id=1704700346
This card holds 1,100 RPM and is near inaudible at 100% load. If you start to hear the fans or the speed increases, it may be time to remove dust. The thermal and acoustic performance of this Hell Hound edition Power Color are both extremely good!
@@KenjiFox Thx
0:06 does anyone know what case that is?
I need this
Can i pair with 7 5700x at 1080p?
yes , a ryzen 7 5700x is good enough for a 4070 and an RX 7900xt so it should work fine . It has 8 cores with good speed so it shouldnt cause much of an underperformance. BUt as a general rule of thumb , the better the cpu , the better the performance of the gpu . For example a Ryzen 7 7800x3d will outperform the one you recommended but the difference isnt much in terms of fps . I personally havent used the 7 5700x but from the looks of it (the specs) it should perform fine . It also depends on the motherboard since we are talking about a higher end gpu with an AM4 chipset motherboard which usually is slower than a AM5 motherboard . You should do some research about the specifics and then decide . But if you want a graphics card to pair with then get a 7800xt . It should perform the same as the 7900GRE at that point.
Bro thank you for your time to response.
I was thinking to get the 7800xt anyways but after your message i'm sure 7800xt will be next gpu not gre or another one.
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I have no idea but i gót rx 7900gre plus r9 3900x overclocked to all gears to 4.2ghz and undervolt ed to 1.275000 and yeah on 1440p native ultra settings this gives mé 122fps on avarage plus 1%low is 105fps and lowest are 88fps😂😂😂 im fine i guess. And small reminder the benchmark is fine but IF you are playing game in heavy crouded areas well the game droping your fps way more than 88fps plus after cyberpunk 2.0 and higher specially with phantom liberty this game love to chew the CPU and literally all cpus are struggle in this game still.
Thanks for sharing this information!