Welcome To the Jungle Intro Riff (TAB vs. Reality)
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- -Welcome To the Jungle Intro Riff (TAB vs. Reality)
Yet another riff that was tabbed wrong and screwed me up for several years. Man these videos are fun to make. :) Thanks for watching.
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Goodness, Mike, how many bad tab books are there? This is by far my favorite series of yours.
Yeah these are great.
I think every tab book, has at least some minor mistakes.
It's like asking how many push-ups Chuck Norris can do within a minute. I know these are passé and shit but whatever
All of them
Every tab book I've ever owned has had obvious mistakes, including most of what he's already covered
I'm convinced at this point that no tab books are correct.
That's why I love tab archives. They have a rating system. Though it's a bummer when even none of those are right. Ah well, still beats 20 years ago when we had to do it by ear and hope for the best. Keep up the great work Mikey! 🤘🔥🤘
Some are brilliant. I own lots of tab books. Let's not tar them all with the same brush.
The best tab books are the ones tabbed by the artists themselves. They're rare but that's probably the best way.
I have a living colour book that is practically a piece of art. Everything is tabbed out including the intro to love rears it's ugly head. Vernon's solos are tabbed out which probably wasn't easy lol. This was the Time's Up book (the better of the first two albums imo) I had two at one point. Bought it on eBay for $6 near mint with the cd... Unreal. I think it was Allan Stutsky that transcribed it. He did James Brown foundations of funk book. Oh and I bought the Vivid tab book. Unbelievably terrible. I returned it to seller
Accurate ones are out the but man are they rare. It's like seeing sasquatch riding a unicorn
It didn't take me too long to start thinking of tabs more as a starting point, than as definitive resources.
Great explanation to an iconic riff. Well done. I love your patient approach and how you use the before, after, no delay, delay, etc. Really great teaching style.
Jesus
Matt sorum comes in on the wrong beat (which is very rare, killer drummer) which really throws slash off and he looks over to him like "wtf man!"
LOL that look was priceless.
Well shit, what excuse do you have for that shitty playing by Slash.
Slash was absolutely hammered in that video lol
He was high and playing badly. No wonder Matt and Duff came in at a different spot, Slash didn’t have his rhythm together. He was thrown off by their hits ’cause he didn’t even realize he was playing so bad. 😅
Yep, everyone gets that wrong. Sure, Slash is playing it a little sloppy, but Matt's the one who messed it up, hence why one can see Slash counting him in with head-nods right after...
I remember back in the 80s being at the mall music shop and having that exact book in my hand. Another kid says "don't buy it, it's wrong!". He was right, but judging by this series, so were all the other books in the rack! 😂
He knew his shit😹😹😹😹saved you a headache
I know Slash doesn't do this, but I find that hybrid picking the open B makes this riff considerably easier. Great video!
I love doing that too! I normally play with two fingers and my thumb on my picking hand but for this songs intro I switch to classic one finger and thumb on my picking hand. Same I do for Cliffs Of Dover intro!
it might be but i prefer to try to get it down Slash's way as it will transfer somewhat to some of his other material i want to cover
Little tip : If the string skipping to the open B from the D string is too tough, just hit the b note on the g string at the 4th fret. It's less right hand movement. This is how I used to play it live and actually think it sounds better. So - open b while fretting the G sting, and 4th fretted G while finishing the riff on the D and A stings.
Agreed this is how i play it as well. Much easier than going back to the open B and the sound of it to my ear is a bit nicer for some reason. Slightly "softer" or less trebley with the thicker string.
Me too, please read my comment:)
Agree, the skip makes it more challanging coz of the palm mute. B on g sting reduces the movement.
i was sitting here like: "what about the open B in between? Have i been playing it wrong for 17 years?" scared me for a minute. After all this time that intro can still be a pain in the butt. Thank God there isn't an easier way to play it. I love these wrong tab book videos btw. You should do a Pantera one. I can't even imagine what a mess that book would be.
He already did pantera one already, it was pretty bad lmao
I'm in agreement. When I was a teen in '89-'90 we all knew there was an open B. The tough part was the string skipping. I don't think any of us knew what a delay pedal was at the time anyway.
This album single handedly got me to pick up the guitar. Definitely one of the greatest albums of all time. And if you listen to it with headphones you can hear slash in one ear and Izzy in the other. The rhythms compliment each other so well are so well done that you can’t tell who is the rhythm and who is the lead. Thanks for the video.
Man, this TAB screwed me up for the longest time. I always thought it was because I didn't have a delay pedal, but once I finally got one, I still couldn't get the riff to sound right and just figured I must have been doing something wrong!
yeah it's a pain in the ass there buddy. Shot in the dark if you're the Dan the Man i know but, did i leave a bottle of Maker's Mark up there the other night? lmfao
Me too man!
God bless my guitar teacher back when I started, cuz the dude actually knew it (and taught it) the correct way. Rock on, Rul...!
Also, Slash being "Chemichally impaired" really cracked me up lol
Just shows you how damn great that album is and how great the guitars on that album are. You know your stuff is tight when it takes decades for people to figure out what you were doing.
cope
Felgato LOL
Nobody knows what they were doing because slash played it different every single time he played it. Dude is incredibly overrated.
@@GameTimeWhy he isn't the greatest but still iconic AF
This broke my brain. I can't believe I never heard this, it's so obvious once you point it out. This is a guitar playing public service.
Slash is such a legend,. Hes made so many iconic riffs and solos in a debut album,.
I had that tab in a book from the late 80s or early 90s, drove me nuts. It's easily the hardest GnR riff to play crystal clean properly. But it's a heck of a great exercise in general for string skipping
The SAD part, is 90% of tab sites Still have this Horribly Wrong intro, even today!!!!! We need to fix this guys!!!!!
I just looked at Songsterr’s out of curiosity (where I learnt it from) and it seems to be fairly correct. The only difference being the last few times you were to hit the open B string on this video, it tells you to instead play 4 on the G string. I can’t quite tell if that’s wrong or not to how it’s actually played.
Slash may have had problems with that lick a few times, but that's generally how to spot when he was either way too high, or in withdrawal and waiting on a hookup to come through. Read the autobiography, it's outstanding.
🤘🏻🔥 Awesome! I've actually had this in my head the past few days. Loving the split camera angle on this.
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Me too !! I’ve been hearing it more in my head while at work thinking it’s a sign I need to put the record on and learn it
When you listen to the recording at about 20 seconds in, he reverts to the "official" tab and it is simplified. But yes in the 20 second intro it is how you described it to a T. But after that it simplifies.
It kinda lays back in feel doesn’t it
Master that Riff does a good job teaching this intro. Apparently the delay was added in post by the producer to just the first few notes only. The delay effect is achieved by pedaling off the open B string.
How can slash be so hammered and play better than most people
Add a hands free cigarette and it's even harder
Practice
Hundreds of hours of hammered practice and rehearsals, probably.
Muscle memory
Same as Dimebag, couldn’t even walk but put a guitar in his hands and he goes god mode.
I KNEW SOMETHING WAS UP! I tried learning this years ago, and the tab was wrong. Hugely satisfied to see the correct version
this riff is such a mindbender
Another aspect is he uses delay in front of amp more as an effect than a delay as it gets distorted, which is maybe why it sounds good without, unlike stuff that relies on the delayed notes
Well done and thanks for solving this mystery!!! Two main take aways from this:
1. The picking pattern is super important to get the correct feel and groove.
2. As the riff moves down... Don't cheat by using the "B" note on the 4th fret of the G String. Keep going to the open B to get the right sound and feel.
I remember trying to figure this one out too. I decided to play the first two descending notes (the B and the A) on the D string (9th and 7th fret) instead of G string. Makes it easier because right hand skipping is more consistent, but also makes for a more consistent tone between the melody and the pedal B note, with all the melody notes being on wound strings. I'm sure I've seen slash play it this way too in an interview somewhere.
I remember when I first got my electric set up and got the tab book for this song. I didn’t believe that Slash was using an effect pedal to get that sound.
I remember that tab, this riff is so hard because you need to play it perfectly for it to sound good, absolutely perfectly or it sounds sloppy right off, the slight variation between the two can be disregarded as long as you can keep it razor tight, I saw a recent video where elderly Slash ripped right through this with ease so Slash still has it
That intro riff is the hardest part of the song to get down properly.
"Little bit chemically impaired"? Let's face it, he was totally wasted🤣
Ahahahah
The truth 😂😂😂
Only yesterday I was trying to figure this riff out - great timing Mike. Cheers!
This took me forever to learn. The up stroke on the B String every time.
i figured that out 10 years ago and always played it that way. Good video!
Thank you so much for this series. I spent so much time in the nineties pouring over these books and never quite getting and always just doubting myself because of it.
I have that same book, starting learning from it in the late 80s (one of the first I got) when I started playing. I saw this immediately and couldn't comprehend how they screwed ut up so bad that even a kid who just started can tell.
The tab version with the delay was not that bad. Good enough for us players that are not highly skilled. It’s easily recognizable and for us jamming in our garages does the job
It wasn't correct.
@@jonwilder8205 correct enough for me. I like it.
@@jonwilder8205 Thank you for pointing out what the comment itself suggested, besides the fact everyone watching the video figured it out.
True story - I had that tab book (the original one with a lighter purple cover... the one in your vid thumbnail) and I couldn’t afford any pedals when I was first learning guitar, so I ended up just playing the riff exactly like you’re demonstrating here! I thought it sounded pretty damn close to the album and now I know why!! Tab books were such a huge part of playing guitar before the internet and these episodes where you cover them are PURE GOLD!!! Thanks!
Just looked through my magazine stash to see if I could find any other tabs for this song. Found one from issue # 113 of Guitar Legends. They notate it similar to your explanation here.
I had it figured out a while back. However that second run with the extra b string , missed that. So I learned a little today lol
I’m glad I never had the patience to sit through the books .. had plenty of them but I preferred learning from a teacher or nowadays TH-cam. Almost all my improved playing comes from this rather than the tabs!! Thanks for clearing it up too!
I had that tab book too and you can learn this stuff online and then you watch slash and somehow it’s easier!
Try this. Put your delay in front of the amp or distortion pedal instead of the effects loop or behind the distortion. Totally changes how the pedal sounds. I think this is going to get you closest to what was actually played
This sounds right, because you just feel the momentum he's building up with this slight deconstruction of his own beat. This is one of those riffs you have to play really long and try different variations to get the feel just right.
Crazy that you uploaded this today. I was just messing around on my guitar earlier and played something that sounded like this riff and decided to try to figure out the riff. Good stuff mike.
If you want to learn exactly how slash plays it watch the episode of Nikki Sixx My Favorite riffs with Slash. Nikki Sixx asks Slash how to play the intro correctly so Slash shows him how to play it the right way.
Is Slash playing the open B string, or fretting the B note on 4th fret on G string for the pedal tones? The latter one looks easier to me
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14:44 - here it is, he pedals on the open B :)
Or just watch this video. He plays it just like this.
dzonyyya Open. Because the first note he plays against that open B is the fourth fret B on the G string. It’s got that chorus-y rub that unison notes have.
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How I ever stuck with guitar baffles me. ALL of my childhood tab books where Sooooo wrong. Love these videos!
The version from the tab book is probably how Axl thinks Slash plays it 😂
Lol
Finally, somebody highlights how Slash doesn't play it the same way each time 👍
DUDE!!! I remember trying to learn this as a kid! I credited the bad sound, to my lack of having a delay.
Seeing the "correct" tab reminded me of how that song is charted on Guitar Hero 3, where they come back to the orange notes during the riffs, for precisely the B string notes
Hell yeah man. When i learned this riff as a kid, i didnt have a delay pedal, so i figured out to play it like this so it would sound right. Always figured i was playing it ‘my way’ lol.
Nice work on that switched up pattern, thats finicky. Gonna have to learn that now.
What are you playing through? Jcm800? Sounds great!
Playing through an ENGL Retro100 head into a Marshall 1960 vintage cab (4x12).
Forget the riff. Who would make a Radio Shack shirt nowadays. Very cool!
I had a delay pedal, DOD DFX9, that had infinite repeat. It got water damage and infinite repeat quit working.
I think I had it figured out though.
The beginning notes (delayed) were set to infinite repeat after the 2nd time and then you played it like the tabs books. In my head, it really sounds like that would work.
I always asked myself why my guitar teacher was so obsessed about figuring stuff out on your own.
Now I know: Practically everything is wrong.
I' had also always wondered about the right way to play this riff. Thank you, I subscribed because of this video.
I knew this when I fist started playing guitar. Bought a guitar for the practicing musician magazine, and this was in it. They had that as part of the explanation, as (like many) didn’t know about effects.
Same thing with U2. You always are trying to compensate for the delay when learning it, when in fact you have to learn it without it first. That is so hard to do because most riffs without an extreme noticeable delay are easy to learn.
You almost have to have a different approach with this.
Great video! Straight to the point and good content.
I had a BOSS processor way back in the day and it had the best slapback setting that was perfect for this riff
Love your videos. I had all those books in the late 80’s Metallica, Slayer, the really bad Maiden ones, etc. As a teenager, if it was on paper and published I just assumed it was right even though it didn’t make sense.
I got the appetite book for Christmas when I was in 7th grade in 1989 from my sister. I had a Korean knockoff “strat” and a Yamaha 50 watt amp.
This riff "helped" me to rely more on my own ears rather than tab, when I just started playing, took me some time to figure out how to play it the correct way.
When Slash makes those crazy eyes its because the damn drum came in a beat behind!
Hope you get to 1 million subs! - been watching you for a while
I feel like this has been going on since tabs were used by lute players, maybe longer. In the 80s, BBSs were full of posts complaining about how Hal Leonard effed something up and how's it actually supposed to be played. Concert videos are probably the most reliable source of information when it comes to figuring tabs out.
I have found it entertaining to see the difference in his demeanor when he does a video on something like this, compared to a live stream. 💩Because he is very wholesome in these and will joke about anything in live streams.
I have been waiting for this! Please do more of this bad tab book! Thank you and much love!
This one hits home! How many tab books did you own as a kid?
i had the same book growing up. it scarred me for life.
Hey,
Yup, agree this is how to do it. You have to string skip pretty fast, but if you can get it down, you don't even need the delay and people will still recognize it.
I played this wrong for over 20 years thanks to incorrect tab, until I stumbled across another TH-camr a few years ago who played it the same as you.
Thank-you....I was playing this riff in a cover band back from 1994-1997. I was playing it notewise your way EXCEPT I was playing the B note on the 4th fret of the 3rd string, which did not have the same aural effect; your way is superior. I was always perplexed because I consider Wolf Marshall to be a superlative transcriber, as shown in the great Appetite book. However, I didn't use any delay of my own control back then. We always had an in-house sound man who supplied the effects from his console. ...David
Two good solos that use delay are "Just Like Paradise" by David Lee Roth (with Steve Vai) and White Lion "Baby Be Mine". On another note, try some REO Speedwagon. Gary Richrath was awesome. Check out "Back On The Road Again", "Ridin' The Storm Out" and "Roll With The Changes" to name a few.
White lion guitar parts were incredible. Far better than the average end tier hair band.
I had that tab book too, I didn't know any better back in the day and thought it was correct. If my memory is correct, it was tabbed by Wolf Marshall. He's tabbed a few things in his time and a lot of it isn't accurate.
I find if you start it like you did but when you get to the D string if you play the B notes on the G string at the 4th fret with your baby finger it's way easier and less string jumping. Great video !! Thanks
Im pretty sure ive seen it tabbed with the open B string, maybe there was an update to that book
The day my friend asked me to play the pink floyd bass riff for "one of these days". I did so without the effect.
His face was priceless. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
And the final lesson of the video, if you struggle with this riff, you are at least as good as Slash when he's high as a kite!
Thanks for breaking this down. This riff has always eluded me
The video that I realized the TAB book was completely wrong was when I watched the Slash amp signature protoype video: "The AFD 100 prototype" for a few seconds you can see clearly how he actually plays it 😀. GReat video Mike! You rock!
HAHAHA!!! I bought that tab book in 1993, the year I started playing...At first I thought it was an "effect" issue....it took me months to figure it out....no youtube back then.....
Keep it up, man!!!
Those old tab books are the best but nothing beats a good pair of ears.
Thank you! Been dying to learn this since I was 12🖤🖤🖤🖤👊
Cool Radio Shack shirt.
They actually still still exist. I stopped at a few months back but almost literally everything they had was equivalent to dollar tree music gear.
I learnt that the right way from lick library years ago sounds awesome
Man I had the original purple tab book. Memories!
That open b was mind blowing.
You know where you are? Art of Guitar, baby!
Man, I wish youtube and this channel existed back in 1988
Spot on. I learned some GnR songs in detail, especially Izzy's parts and it makes me appreciate them more, especially when bands do covers and they miss details.
Slash starts this way but I do believe that when Izzy comes in with his little intro notes, slash changes to the way the tab reports. Anyone also noticed this?
Man you always have the best videos lol I always leave these like damn I need to buy this dude a beer.
LOVE the Radio Shack shirt!!!! I miss that place SO much!
This like many of slash’s guitar riffs and fills are very challenging, slash is amazing he is tough to imitate exactly!
I always play like this cause I have seen Slash in live versions without the delay and when a learn this I didn't have a delay pedal ! Thanks for the video !
Bad tab books galore. I always wondered about the mystery surrounding Welcome to the Jungle's opening riff. Nice video.
superb!! can't believe the confusion breaker does exist!!
I honestly never thought there was a delay effect in welcome to the jungle... and it's not a song I ever took the time to learn personally
Yep, That bad tab got me too, basically one of the main reasons I ended up not playing guitar anymore is that exact reason. Pretty much every song I tried to learn from tab books was wrong and sounded nothing like the recordings. I wish there would have been everything that is available now when I was trying to learn how to play. TH-cam was just starting basically about the time I quit playing.
I owned the purple cover tab book too, but mine was from way back in like 1997. It was missing a lot of stuff. In this song it was missing the lead guitar part that comes just before the 2nd solo.
short and sweet video. love these kinds of follow up videos
I had that same tab book. No wonder we had trouble with it.
That riff is way more badass than I thought!
This is my favorite series, but I'd like to see maybe a sister series of "Good Tab Books" (probably much harded to come by though)