Yeah it's almost depressing seeing this video lol A good machine certainly makes it easier, but this definitely does show you can get great art even on less than sub par machines if you understand how the steam wand is affecting the milk.
lance i sometimes see your community posts asking what kinds of videos we want to see. THIS kind of video is exactly what im into. love seeing some expertise applied to more accessible machinery. very valuable!
Very excited to see Lance making a video on this thing! Some tips and tricks for this machine: My girlfriend has this and to get something enjoyable from it, I paired it with a Fellow Opus grinder, and added a fancier portafilter and EMS filter basket. It is fun to squeeze something nice from it, and let me share some little tricks to enhance its performance: 1. Skip the built-in pre-infusion if you don’t want it. Just insert the portafilter with prepared puck, open the steam valve and start to pull a shot, the water will exit the steam wand instead. During the ‘pre-infusion’, or break in pumping water, close the valve, and the water will go through the brew head from there. 2. Use a thick 1.5-2 mm puck screen to help the water distribution. 3. To start with a slightly higher brew temperature, turn on the steam button for just 3-10 seconds before pulling a shot. (Doesn’t work that accurate but enables some temperature surfing) 4. Milk frothing: remove the pannarello. Quickly after switching on the steam button, open the steam valve and let it steam for about a minute (or two) in an empty pitcher or so. The steam pressure will increase during steaming, this will help you to create the desired vortex and steam milk. At home I am using a vibiemme domobar with a niche, but actually find this little Lidl device more fun to use in some way.
I was just about to ask about the pannarello, because in my case it starts getting air through the top tiny hole and the milk almost pours over. So my solution until now was to try to cover it with the milk too, although it's not the most comfy thing and neither it gives you a great control, so thank you for the tip, I will keep trying without it!
Thank you, Lance. While I appreciate watching you use $10k+ in coffee equipment, that is not in my budget. I have been struggling to get a drinkable shot with my Delonghi ECP3420. Looks like a non-pressurized basket is in my future. I have a decent hand grinder (KinGrinder K6), get good beans from a local roaster, and get SCA grade water from that same roaster. Thank you for your help with the budget limited gear! I hope you do more like this!
@@ThePorkTree You're joking. Every place I know baristas, with today's tip culture, are making more than junior Tech programmers (if they were working full time, which they often don't cuz life is so hard yadda yadda). I was a bartender and barista too back in the day before and during college, and I didn't earn HALF of what they earn today.
Finally! Gonna enjoy my afternoon cup with this one! I have similar level of machine, it is made by Beko and I bought it for roughly 90 euros. 3 years and going strong for now with IMS competition basket.
Why be mad? It is the truth, the machine matters less than the grinder. Budget options are very important to discuss. TH-cam is not only for coffee geeks with money to spend, so thank you Lance!
Hi Lance! I have the previous version of this one at my summer house. Coupled with a basic Lelit stepless conical grinder, a non pressurised basket and a scale. The results are indeed quite impressive! The machine is still alive over 5 years now although I actually use it daily for 2months every year. I descale it once per month. For steaming I have removed the external cyllinder, so it's no longer acting like a pannarelo steam wand; the steaming is much more controllable giving acceptable results. Honestly, the experience with any other single boiler machine it isn't much more different. It is crazy how one needs to pay 15x times over to experience a significant upgrade in the coffee brewing-tasting.
We have one of those. We used it for our AirBnb place and we got a lot of compliments about the coffee. We were very surprised by that :). Now it's at my parents', they use it every day and they like it a lot. I think it makes decent coffee. So, it's been in use for 6 years now. The water here is very soft. We haven't done any major repairments.
Guess at the end of the day an espresso machine is just a hot water pump. With great beans and a good grinder you can usually figure out how to make a tasty beverage with almost any brewing equipment. Conversely if your beans suck or you’re using a really bad grinder there’s no gizmo that will make it taste nice.
Fun video, Lance! That shower screen looks pretty decent actually for this price point - much better than the Gaggia Espresso Deluxe. Very nice latte art, too. Maybe you could show us a close up of the grooming some time - the result is very impressive. Cheers, Tom
I can't even do basic art on my modified delonghi dedica with a rancillo wand. You just made me realize how crappy my skills are haha! Thanks for sharing this milk trick! 😁
This is what I started with :D it was a similar machine, probably same parts inside. It was an Ariete Cafe Retro. At the end it started falling apart with scale, the screw in the middle of that puck screen was the first to come out on its own.
Love your personality really coming through in this video, just having fun with this machine. Also really love that you're helping people with lower budgets see how they can get some decent lattes. You don't need $1,000 for good home espresso drinks. Yay Lance!
Hello Lance - this is a letter of thanks for all of your videos. I'm a coffee lover on a budget, and was able to find a used Breville 800ESXL at the Goodwill bins a month or so ago, for around 15 dollars. I replaced missing parts, got a decent leveling tamper, Kingrinder K6 burr grinder, puck filter, WDT tool, mister, scale, dosing funnel, etc. and watched a few of your videos. Over the last month, using your information, I have been able to pull better and better shots. Today I pulled the first shot I really, really liked. Even though my equipment is meh and the beans were a pretty old medium roast, the following settings seemed to work well: using a spacious double shot unpressurized basket, a dose of ~26 grams ground at "33" grind setting on the kingrinder k6 (effectively 38 because of a zero point at -5), which was like fine sand, but zero fines, and a firm tamp pressure. Used 2.2/1 ratio, resulting in 55 grams of espresso, kind of watery but magnificent in flavor, not too bitter or acidic and with strong "forest floor" flavor. After sipping, made a very interesting and even meditative latte. I count your information about WDT, grind consistency, misting, and "dialing in" to have been really essential for me in finally achieving decent results with medium roasts, which are my favorite. THANKS AGAIN!
i am the same and everything changed when i realised how easy modding a machine is . alot of people on youtube say it is hard but they must have never used a screw driver to be saying that . youll see you can mod a cheap machine to make it have features that are super good . i think being on a budget is a good thing . because if you ever get a high end machine down the line and you can already make great espresso with a cheap one you will make amazing espresso .
This was very informative. Thanks, Lance. I don't drink espresso often enough to warrant spending a hefty price tag. However, I do like the option of being able to get decent espresso with a very low cost machine. At $60, if it lasts 2 years, at roughly 2-3 espressos/week, that's probably still worth it. Although, I don't like the idea of plastics and aluminum being around very hot temperatures for something I consume. Please do continue the cheaper alternative series ! It makes the coffee world more accessible to those who want a good cup, but not necessarily have the means to spend that much, especially in today's world. Much appreciated.
something i convinced many people to do and they are happy, cheap machine, invest in bottomless portafilter (approx 30 bucks) and a good handgrinder - voila , tastes good, is fun, nice to get into it
I used the Bialetti Mokono for more than 2 years paired with a great hand grinder and I pulled great shots that I never thought of buying an advanced espresso machine. The grouphead started leaking recently though due to obviously cheap plastic materials so I had to upgrade. I enjoyed the machine though and I will recommend this route for a beginner. Great video. The grinder, coffee, water and barista are the most important, the machine is not all that important.
Very good video Lance, short, interesting, and very useful not only for those thinking of getting into the lower budget side of the specialty coffee world, but also for those of us who enjoy any kind of gadget 😁
I have an old, cheap Mr. Coffee espresso machine (one they stopped producing quite a while ago), and with regular cleaning and using filtered water for my shots, I’ve been able to maintain it with zero issues, despite it being over a decade old. It makes great espresso, and the steam wand, although initially automatic, I was able to turn into a manual by removing the rubber piece which pulls the air in. I use a hand grinder, currently, but I’m saving for a decent electric grinder in the future before considering getting a new machine.
We had some older variant of this at work, it looked almost identicle, except for that cup holder on top, simpler steam wand and lack of any preinfusion. It .. wasnt great, but it has lasted for almost 3 years with quite a heavy use.
Yes,yes,please,i would love some more videos with cheap machines and how to optimize their performance🥰Me has the Delonghi ec 885,botomless portafilter,a wdt tool and and a breville dose control pro grinder.With Lance's innumerable tutorials i am getting quite tasty cups each time. My milk foaming skills are still mediocre though 😁 I wonder if i'm doing the right thing using single origin beand with this machine 🤔
I have a cheap chinese machine paired with a Kingrinder K4: I added a proper tamper, a non pressurized basket and a puck screen. This does a pretty decent job for about 240 bucks total
I respect the hell out of this video! You're always doing some great content. I've watched so many of your videos along my espresso and latte art journey that I feel like I actually know you 😂😂. Cheers.
If you pull the outer pannarello sleeve off the steam wand and just use the inner wand, you can steam milk pretty normally - it’s just really short, and thus really finicky about the size of your pitcher and the volume of milk in it. But it’s totally workable.
Great video sir Lance! Hopefully this is the start of a series of vids on more budget friendly equipment and how to maximize them to still enjoy specialty coffee. Would love to see a Kingrinder lineup video and maybe a head to head with more expensive brand grinder that has similar/identical burrs? More power to you, Burr Man! 🙏
This was a fun video. Love it! Good to know I don't need to spend $1000+ to make good espresso. I'd love to see a "best starter spro machines 2024" vid from you.
*Inexpensive "Cheap" sounds like "chirp" which is the sound a bird makes when it's eaten by a raptor. Sell the sizzle. People buy results. Features tell but benefits sell. Literally no one else anywhere is going to duplicate what the Grand Poobah just did here. Thank you for letting us little guys continue to dream that anything is possible.
This is important. I managed to improve the frotting by removing that cheap metal layer it has with the four holes in it. Then you get the wand with just one hole and is a lot more manageable.
Love the cheap equipment reviews/protips vids. I have been wondering how you would recommend approaching the Melita pour over dripper. They can be found for about 12 bucks in the US and the odd shape seems to present some challenges for my pour overs. I have tried figure eights, but as I think about it maybe a straight line motion when drippers 'valley' is parallel to my line of sight may be easier and more consistent.
To answer the open question about the spring, the mushroom valve prevents back flow into the boiler so you don’t have a gritty mess in there. I.e., pull a shot and then turn on the steam.
i use a remarkably similar setup to this, including the Q2 grinder. actually, i'm a bit envious of the lack of solenoid, because you can surf the pressure without cutting out the heater. but, having got rid of the pressurized basket, i find it's a knife edge adjustment getting a grind/charge/tamp to mate with the high pressure. seems to me there's something to be said for the basket restriction bringing the pressure *across* the puck closer to 9 bar (despite that pressure now being more affected by flow). i haven't had the double wall basket since well before i learned to get decent shots, so i can't do the comparison, but i'm interested to know what the theoretical problem is with the pressure basket, other than the fact that most people wouldn't know what needs adjusting when shots are largely regulated to identical flow rates
Nice "review". Go to see review in this price range too. The budget direct lever machine what you reviewed recently has sister/brother called (ITOP/Gemilai) *CRM3007L or CRM3006* , I would love to see a review about them. They have both have; pressure gauge, temp setup, temp reader and around *600 €* (probably + shipping).
you are very funny. I'm not interested in a cheap espresso machine, no way would I buy a $60 espresso machine, but I'm watching this video for the laughs. You're basically doing standup focused on an espresso theme. Keep it up!
It’s funny you say that because there are probably way more people who find this useful and informative due to the low price rather than people who find it to be not useful and just entertainment due to the low price
@@streetninja510 eh? My comment was meant to be a compliment to Lance. He's very funny. I watch his videos sometimes for the information which I find useful, but even when I'm not interested in what he's reviewing, I still watch his video because he's a great showman, a great comedian. And also a good source of useful information for coffee nerds.
Yes this is actually really fun to watch to see how the cheap ones do. Cuz of course a La Marzocco is great but sometimes it is fun to watch something like this too.
Awsome video. I just ordered a machine similar to this that was on a mad offer. I think my total lack of any skill might provide me with a slightly different 1st cup. 😂. Thanks.
Wow, wow, wow. This whole time I thought my latte art sucked bc I wasn't able to get quality foam. This is proof otherwise. The hunt for good art continues! Maybe some grooming is needed...
Unless you truly have the ambition and plenty of money to burn, espresso is a bit overrated for most coffee drinkers. You also need a very expensive grinder or expert barista intuition to get the proper ratios for good espresso shots. I stick with just buying good coffee beans, hand crank grinder and my trusty french press. When I do feel that espresso itch every once in a while I will visit my favorite coffee shop and support my local baristas.
As someone who uses cheap machine for the last 3 years (it broke down recently) and modified it and use good accessories i can just say that: It's a love hate relationship with cheap machines, even if you maximize its potential, there's just the build quality that sets you back. But nonetheless, it taught me how to pull good espresso and steam silky milk!
By the way Lance, in my country there's this rebranded china espresso machine that comes with the name of Gemilai, or in my country is called Feratti Ferro. The most popular budget machine we use here is called FCM3605 or Gemilai version is CRM3605. It costs under around $150 here and it comes with a pressure bar and it has a 58mm grouphead! A lot of videos in TH-cam modified the machine by adding PID, dimmer mod, etc
Hi Lance a spanish here. I love this content. I just buy a k6 for 80€ and I just gave up to the idea that with my current bean to cup machine, the only coffee I was going to really enjoy it is the specialty coffee that I just buy to use with my ap. My girlfriend doesn't want to deal with the idea of having to take her time to make an espresso and an investment of 500€ just for myself seems unlikely to happen... Now I am thinking that maybe a cheap machine with the addition of a nice non pressurised portafilter, a tamper and just a little bit of research about how the machine works... I could enjoy an "espresso"
I've had this machine for a few years (maybe 5 ish), been using bottled water because i didn't like descaling it so often. At first it was a huge upgrade compared to the full-auto bean-to-cup saeco i had, but since i fixed a 90's gaggia classic this thing has been relegated to make coffee for my parents when I'm not home to use the Gaggia properly
I got one of those with some other weird brand taped on it. I depressurized the baskets on the first day and paired it with a decent hand grinder, then got a couple of proper baskets and now that's what I'm using daily. Honestly I hate it and the dial (that wouldn't go past 80 degrees) broke after a month. It allowed me to introduce myself into espresso, but I'm getting a Dedica soon.
Great video! So now my question is… as a COMPLETE beginner (someone who is coming from a Nespresso pod machine), will a more expensive machine (like a lelit Elizabeth) make sense (to help me get a decent espresso from the start), or would that be overkill for me? Just starting to research to try and take my coffee to the next level.
There are some influential voices out there claiming that you’ll never get good espresso out of a machine like this. Hames Joffman, for example, would look at the price tag and instantly conclude the output would be bad. Good to see someone who GETS IT. And for sixty bucks, you could wear out one of these machines every year and buy a new one… and after a decade, still have spent only slightly more than on a single Gaggia. Not that you want to do that… the point being you do not need to spend a fortune to begin in this hobby. Good video Lance!
Love the vid! But please do a separate video on the DF64V Ive been contemplating about getting it and cant decide between it and the 064timemore… seen all the comparing vids :)))
Hi. I am relatively new. You mentioned the use of tap water vs the importance of 'quality water'. Do you have a video on how to turn tap water into quality water or water into wine (that would work, too😅)
It's simply taking everything out of the portafilter. All the screws and plastic bits. Then replacing the basket with a cheap single wall basket from Amazon.
I don't think I've ever seen a more convincing argument that bad latte art is entirely a skill issue.
could not thought of a better conclusion for that!!! 100%
I was thinking the same thing. Clearly I have no excuses... :(
Yeah it's almost depressing seeing this video lol
A good machine certainly makes it easier, but this definitely does show you can get great art even on less than sub par machines if you understand how the steam wand is affecting the milk.
Yes, although a better machine definitely does help.
yeah that is my somewhat livid takeaway from this
lance i sometimes see your community posts asking what kinds of videos we want to see. THIS kind of video is exactly what im into. love seeing some expertise applied to more accessible machinery. very valuable!
💯 this!
🙌 Yesssssssss
Very excited to see Lance making a video on this thing! Some tips and tricks for this machine:
My girlfriend has this and to get something enjoyable from it, I paired it with a Fellow Opus grinder, and added a fancier portafilter and EMS filter basket. It is fun to squeeze something nice from it, and let me share some little tricks to enhance its performance:
1. Skip the built-in pre-infusion if you don’t want it. Just insert the portafilter with prepared puck, open the steam valve and start to pull a shot, the water will exit the steam wand instead. During the ‘pre-infusion’, or break in pumping water, close the valve, and the water will go through the brew head from there.
2. Use a thick 1.5-2 mm puck screen to help the water distribution.
3. To start with a slightly higher brew temperature, turn on the steam button for just 3-10 seconds before pulling a shot. (Doesn’t work that accurate but enables some temperature surfing)
4. Milk frothing: remove the pannarello. Quickly after switching on the steam button, open the steam valve and let it steam for about a minute (or two) in an empty pitcher or so. The steam pressure will increase during steaming, this will help you to create the desired vortex and steam milk.
At home I am using a vibiemme domobar with a niche, but actually find this little Lidl device more fun to use in some way.
What portafilter did you get pls - the Amazon one I got isn't compatible?
I was just about to ask about the pannarello, because in my case it starts getting air through the top tiny hole and the milk almost pours over. So my solution until now was to try to cover it with the milk too, although it's not the most comfy thing and neither it gives you a great control, so thank you for the tip, I will keep trying without it!
I spit out my coffee when he used the $78 Weber shaker with the $60 espresso machine
Free shaker. Comes with the grinder. 😅
Thank you, Lance. While I appreciate watching you use $10k+ in coffee equipment, that is not in my budget. I have been struggling to get a drinkable shot with my Delonghi ECP3420. Looks like a non-pressurized basket is in my future. I have a decent hand grinder (KinGrinder K6), get good beans from a local roaster, and get SCA grade water from that same roaster.
Thank you for your help with the budget limited gear! I hope you do more like this!
So, to summarize: the barista makes good coffee, not the machine
And Lance swings the portafilter like no other
And that’s why we pay them …. *checks notes* … not a livable wage !
@@ThePorkTree Except in CA. 25$/hr min wage + ins if full time which is somewhat livable.
@@ThePorkTree You're joking. Every place I know baristas, with today's tip culture, are making more than junior Tech programmers (if they were working full time, which they often don't cuz life is so hard yadda yadda). I was a bartender and barista too back in the day before and during college, and I didn't earn HALF of what they earn today.
Grinder: Am I a joke?
Finally! Gonna enjoy my afternoon cup with this one! I have similar level of machine, it is made by Beko and I bought it for roughly 90 euros. 3 years and going strong for now with IMS competition basket.
So, all we need is sixty dollars and Lance's sheer talent 😂
Oh for crying out loud, he is making coffee, not playing a piano sonata
Being a good barista takes talent! Developing a good palate for coffee as well as latte art skills are things that take quite a lot of skill and time
Agreed. One person’s Glenn Gould, is another’s Tom Brady, Michael Jordan, Pelée, Wayne Gretzky, Joël Rubuchon, Steven Spielberg, etc.
Can I rent a Lance? Asking for everyone?
@@loganmontgomery1955Bull all this expensive coffee snobbery is ridiculous.
Why be mad? It is the truth, the machine matters less than the grinder. Budget options are very important to discuss. TH-cam is not only for coffee geeks with money to spend, so thank you Lance!
Hi Lance! I have the previous version of this one at my summer house. Coupled with a basic Lelit stepless conical grinder, a non pressurised basket and a scale. The results are indeed quite impressive! The machine is still alive over 5 years now although I actually use it daily for 2months every year. I descale it once per month. For steaming I have removed the external cyllinder, so it's no longer acting like a pannarelo steam wand; the steaming is much more controllable giving acceptable results. Honestly, the experience with any other single boiler machine it isn't much more different. It is crazy how one needs to pay 15x times over to experience a significant upgrade in the coffee brewing-tasting.
TL;DW: Good beans, a good grinder, good water and a little bit of know-how is all you need for a good coffee.
this video probably helped more people than all your previous videos combined . thank you. other peoples advice is just "dont be poor"
Love that blind shaker outshining the machine with its price
Exactly what I came to say 😂
Daddy Lance coming with the heat!
Prime example Skill over Tool
Thanks for considering stuff at this price point! Great work since day 1
thank you so much! Appreciate it, friend!
We have one of those. We used it for our AirBnb place and we got a lot of compliments about the coffee. We were very surprised by that :). Now it's at my parents', they use it every day and they like it a lot. I think it makes decent coffee. So, it's been in use for 6 years now. The water here is very soft. We haven't done any major repairments.
Guess at the end of the day an espresso machine is just a hot water pump. With great beans and a good grinder you can usually figure out how to make a tasty beverage with almost any brewing equipment. Conversely if your beans suck or you’re using a really bad grinder there’s no gizmo that will make it taste nice.
Fun video, Lance! That shower screen looks pretty decent actually for this price point - much better than the Gaggia Espresso Deluxe. Very nice latte art, too. Maybe you could show us a close up of the grooming some time - the result is very impressive. Cheers, Tom
I can't even do basic art on my modified delonghi dedica with a rancillo wand. You just made me realize how crappy my skills are haha! Thanks for sharing this milk trick! 😁
Keep trying, it isn't impossible.
@@idopeso thank you for the motivation :) I'll do my best to learn!
Ditto.
This is what I started with :D it was a similar machine, probably same parts inside. It was an Ariete Cafe Retro. At the end it started falling apart with scale, the screw in the middle of that puck screen was the first to come out on its own.
3:50 I suspect that that -beaker/cup- blind shaker is a few times more expensive than the whole espresso machine. 😁
More cheap products please it makes me feel included lol
Had a lot of fun watching that video. Fun and light 😂
I love seeing reviews of cheap equipment! I appreciate the great practical demo of how to get decent textured milk from a not so great starting point.
Love your personality really coming through in this video, just having fun with this machine. Also really love that you're helping people with lower budgets see how they can get some decent lattes. You don't need $1,000 for good home espresso drinks. Yay Lance!
The other espresso machine in the background just flexing its muscles to that lil bro 😂😂
This was great, I would love a series like this
Hello Lance - this is a letter of thanks for all of your videos. I'm a coffee lover on a budget, and was able to find a used Breville 800ESXL at the Goodwill bins a month or so ago, for around 15 dollars. I replaced missing parts, got a decent leveling tamper, Kingrinder K6 burr grinder, puck filter, WDT tool, mister, scale, dosing funnel, etc. and watched a few of your videos. Over the last month, using your information, I have been able to pull better and better shots. Today I pulled the first shot I really, really liked. Even though my equipment is meh and the beans were a pretty old medium roast, the following settings seemed to work well: using a spacious double shot unpressurized basket, a dose of ~26 grams ground at "33" grind setting on the kingrinder k6 (effectively 38 because of a zero point at -5), which was like fine sand, but zero fines, and a firm tamp pressure. Used 2.2/1 ratio, resulting in 55 grams of espresso, kind of watery but magnificent in flavor, not too bitter or acidic and with strong "forest floor" flavor. After sipping, made a very interesting and even meditative latte. I count your information about WDT, grind consistency, misting, and "dialing in" to have been really essential for me in finally achieving decent results with medium roasts, which are my favorite. THANKS AGAIN!
i am the same and everything changed when i realised how easy modding a machine is . alot of people on youtube say it is hard but they must have never used a screw driver to be saying that . youll see you can mod a cheap machine to make it have features that are super good . i think being on a budget is a good thing . because if you ever get a high end machine down the line and you can already make great espresso with a cheap one you will make amazing espresso .
I was getting Fomo from bambino not having a solonoid valve and you explaining helped me clear that out
this video is 100% about skills. always love your videos, Lance!
This was very informative. Thanks, Lance. I don't drink espresso often enough to warrant spending a hefty price tag. However, I do like the option of being able to get decent espresso with a very low cost machine. At $60, if it lasts 2 years, at roughly 2-3 espressos/week, that's probably still worth it. Although, I don't like the idea of plastics and aluminum being around very hot temperatures for something I consume.
Please do continue the cheaper alternative series ! It makes the coffee world more accessible to those who want a good cup, but not necessarily have the means to spend that much, especially in today's world. Much appreciated.
I'd love to see that follow up video idea you mentioned about modifying inexpensive espresso machines for better performance.
OK - this is very cool - was looking at this machine in Lidl today - tempted!
something i convinced many people to do and they are happy, cheap machine, invest in bottomless portafilter (approx 30 bucks) and a good handgrinder - voila , tastes good, is fun, nice to get into it
I used the Bialetti Mokono for more than 2 years paired with a great hand grinder and I pulled great shots that I never thought of buying an advanced espresso machine. The grouphead started leaking recently though due to obviously cheap plastic materials so I had to upgrade. I enjoyed the machine though and I will recommend this route for a beginner. Great video. The grinder, coffee, water and barista are the most important, the machine is not all that important.
Very good video Lance, short, interesting, and very useful not only for those thinking of getting into the lower budget side of the specialty coffee world, but also for those of us who enjoy any kind of gadget 😁
YOU ARE A KING!!!! That steamming and latteart was masterfull !!!!!!!
I have an old, cheap Mr. Coffee espresso machine (one they stopped producing quite a while ago), and with regular cleaning and using filtered water for my shots, I’ve been able to maintain it with zero issues, despite it being over a decade old. It makes great espresso, and the steam wand, although initially automatic, I was able to turn into a manual by removing the rubber piece which pulls the air in. I use a hand grinder, currently, but I’m saving for a decent electric grinder in the future before considering getting a new machine.
We had some older variant of this at work, it looked almost identicle, except for that cup holder on top, simpler steam wand and lack of any preinfusion. It .. wasnt great, but it has lasted for almost 3 years with quite a heavy use.
Yes,yes,please,i would love some more videos with cheap machines and how to optimize their performance🥰Me has the Delonghi ec 885,botomless portafilter,a wdt tool and and a breville dose control pro grinder.With Lance's innumerable tutorials i am getting quite tasty cups each time. My milk foaming skills are still mediocre though 😁 I wonder if i'm doing the right thing using single origin beand with this machine 🤔
That just proves that the grinder is much more important than the machine itself.
I have a cheap chinese machine paired with a Kingrinder K4: I added a proper tamper, a non pressurized basket and a puck screen. This does a pretty decent job for about 240 bucks total
more of that!!!! amazing to see your skill and perform those results with cheao equipment. stellar presentation as always! love the singing!
Appreciate you knocking the gates down for this one!
I respect the hell out of this video! You're always doing some great content. I've watched so many of your videos along my espresso and latte art journey that I feel like I actually know you 😂😂. Cheers.
If you pull the outer pannarello sleeve off the steam wand and just use the inner wand, you can steam milk pretty normally - it’s just really short, and thus really finicky about the size of your pitcher and the volume of milk in it. But it’s totally workable.
Loved the beat-box transition! Also, great teardown and analysis of this thing. A little scared of the milk filling my house, though.
What a beautiful demonstration of the power of knowledge! (Plus good grinders and unpressurized baskets 😂)
Awesome video!
cheap product review are surprisingly entertaining lol would be cool to see other coffee gadget reviews as well. thanks for the fun content
Great video sir Lance! Hopefully this is the start of a series of vids on more budget friendly equipment and how to maximize them to still enjoy specialty coffee.
Would love to see a Kingrinder lineup video and maybe a head to head with more expensive brand grinder that has similar/identical burrs?
More power to you, Burr Man! 🙏
Refreshing video after the expensive nerdy stuff.
Love the beatboxing transition music!
I would love to see a collab with you and Daddy Hoff, just having fun while brewing a cup of v60
Fun video, enjoyed it! You got a great looking coffee out of it.
This is a godsend for me a student and a coffee addict wanting more thankyou
Hugo's "wow" is the only thing I need to convince me to keep my machine similar to this.
Yup. Just got one. For giggles. I’ll keep it until it explodes.
Mindblown. I‘m gonna recommend this to all interested people. Thanks a bunch
Lance, you're a wizard for making silky milk with that thing.
nahh youve just been fooled by marketing to believe it wasnt possible
This was a fun video. Love it! Good to know I don't need to spend $1000+ to make good espresso. I'd love to see a "best starter spro machines 2024" vid from you.
*Inexpensive "Cheap" sounds like "chirp" which is the sound a bird makes when it's eaten by a raptor.
Sell the sizzle. People buy results. Features tell but benefits sell.
Literally no one else anywhere is going to duplicate what the Grand Poobah just did here. Thank you for letting us little guys continue to dream that anything is possible.
HILARIOUS commentary 😂😂😂
Truly loved it!
Going on my second year of using a Delonghi stilosa / IMS basket and still loving it !
LOVE THIS VIDEO concept! Fantastic love it.
“It’s already going to bubble up out of your house!”
Fricken lol dude!
This is important. I managed to improve the frotting by removing that cheap metal layer it has with the four holes in it. Then you get the wand with just one hole and is a lot more manageable.
Truly amazing. Great run through.
Talking about learning from other machines… I feel like I learned a lot from this video. Cool.
Love the cheap equipment reviews/protips vids. I have been wondering how you would recommend approaching the Melita pour over dripper. They can be found for about 12 bucks in the US and the odd shape seems to present some challenges for my pour overs. I have tried figure eights, but as I think about it maybe a straight line motion when drippers 'valley' is parallel to my line of sight may be easier and more consistent.
To answer the open question about the spring, the mushroom valve prevents back flow into the boiler so you don’t have a gritty mess in there. I.e., pull a shot and then turn on the steam.
Fun video, I remember when you said you'd never do this haha but hey it was great. Great beans, good grinder and good quality water matters!
Was just looking at upgrading my Bambino to a Lelit Elizabeth... I don't think I can justify it to myself after seeing this haha
Geez, my no burn steam wand upgrade cost almost as much as this entire machine!
Thanks for showing us how accessible good espresso/lattes are!
i use a remarkably similar setup to this, including the Q2 grinder. actually, i'm a bit envious of the lack of solenoid, because you can surf the pressure without cutting out the heater. but, having got rid of the pressurized basket, i find it's a knife edge adjustment getting a grind/charge/tamp to mate with the high pressure. seems to me there's something to be said for the basket restriction bringing the pressure *across* the puck closer to 9 bar (despite that pressure now being more affected by flow). i haven't had the double wall basket since well before i learned to get decent shots, so i can't do the comparison, but i'm interested to know what the theoretical problem is with the pressure basket, other than the fact that most people wouldn't know what needs adjusting when shots are largely regulated to identical flow rates
Nice "review". Go to see review in this price range too.
The budget direct lever machine what you reviewed recently has sister/brother called (ITOP/Gemilai) *CRM3007L or CRM3006* , I would love to see a review about them.
They have both have; pressure gauge, temp setup, temp reader and around *600 €* (probably + shipping).
you are very funny. I'm not interested in a cheap espresso machine, no way would I buy a $60 espresso machine, but I'm watching this video for the laughs. You're basically doing standup focused on an espresso theme. Keep it up!
It’s funny you say that because there are probably way more people who find this useful and informative due to the low price rather than people who find it to be not useful and just entertainment due to the low price
@@streetninja510 eh? My comment was meant to be a compliment to Lance. He's very funny. I watch his videos sometimes for the information which I find useful, but even when I'm not interested in what he's reviewing, I still watch his video because he's a great showman, a great comedian. And also a good source of useful information for coffee nerds.
Yes this is actually really fun to watch to see how the cheap ones do. Cuz of course a La Marzocco is great but sometimes it is fun to watch something like this too.
these videos also help way more people than the ones where he uses machines that noone can afford
@@myname-mz3loi agree, coffee should be accessible to everyone, even espresso. A lot of folks advice is usually just get a more expensive machine.
Awsome video. I just ordered a machine similar to this that was on a mad offer. I think my total lack of any skill might provide me with a slightly different 1st cup. 😂. Thanks.
Wow, wow, wow. This whole time I thought my latte art sucked bc I wasn't able to get quality foam. This is proof otherwise. The hunt for good art continues! Maybe some grooming is needed...
You must have been feelibng good when you made this, love the energy!
okay NOW I have a reason to join the Patreon!
Unless you truly have the ambition and plenty of money to burn, espresso is a bit overrated for most coffee drinkers. You also need a very expensive grinder or expert barista intuition to get the proper ratios for good espresso shots. I stick with just buying good coffee beans, hand crank grinder and my trusty french press. When I do feel that espresso itch every once in a while I will visit my favorite coffee shop and support my local baristas.
Thanks for the Poor Boy Espresso!
Nice poor man’s latte hahaha enjoyed the video😂
As someone who uses cheap machine for the last 3 years (it broke down recently) and modified it and use good accessories i can just say that:
It's a love hate relationship with cheap machines, even if you maximize its potential, there's just the build quality that sets you back. But nonetheless, it taught me how to pull good espresso and steam silky milk!
By the way Lance, in my country there's this rebranded china espresso machine that comes with the name of Gemilai, or in my country is called Feratti Ferro. The most popular budget machine we use here is called FCM3605 or Gemilai version is CRM3605.
It costs under around $150 here and it comes with a pressure bar and it has a 58mm grouphead!
A lot of videos in TH-cam modified the machine by adding PID, dimmer mod, etc
Hi lance, I saw one of your video that you are using a cordless vacuum for your grinds on the counter. What model do you use please. Tks
Hi Lance a spanish here. I love this content. I just buy a k6 for 80€ and I just gave up to the idea that with my current bean to cup machine, the only coffee I was going to really enjoy it is the specialty coffee that I just buy to use with my ap. My girlfriend doesn't want to deal with the idea of having to take her time to make an espresso and an investment of 500€ just for myself seems unlikely to happen... Now I am thinking that maybe a cheap machine with the addition of a nice non pressurised portafilter, a tamper and just a little bit of research about how the machine works... I could enjoy an "espresso"
I've had this machine for a few years (maybe 5 ish), been using bottled water because i didn't like descaling it so often. At first it was a huge upgrade compared to the full-auto bean-to-cup saeco i had, but since i fixed a 90's gaggia classic this thing has been relegated to make coffee for my parents when I'm not home to use the Gaggia properly
I got one of those with some other weird brand taped on it. I depressurized the baskets on the first day and paired it with a decent hand grinder, then got a couple of proper baskets and now that's what I'm using daily. Honestly I hate it and the dial (that wouldn't go past 80 degrees) broke after a month. It allowed me to introduce myself into espresso, but I'm getting a Dedica soon.
I love it, sold i am getting one.
Great video! So now my question is… as a COMPLETE beginner (someone who is coming from a Nespresso pod machine), will a more expensive machine (like a lelit Elizabeth) make sense (to help me get a decent espresso from the start), or would that be overkill for me? Just starting to research to try and take my coffee to the next level.
Hey lance, are you planning on doing a video on the Gaggia evo pro?
Yes, more of these things that average middle-class can buy, than 3000$ grinder
Pro tip: You don't need the 3-way solenoid valve. Just turn the steam wand knob and release the pressure via the wand.
Crushed it Lance 👏
There are some influential voices out there claiming that you’ll never get good espresso out of a machine like this. Hames Joffman, for example, would look at the price tag and instantly conclude the output would be bad. Good to see someone who GETS IT. And for sixty bucks, you could wear out one of these machines every year and buy a new one… and after a decade, still have spent only slightly more than on a single Gaggia. Not that you want to do that… the point being you do not need to spend a fortune to begin in this hobby. Good video Lance!
The included tamper is the same as my 2014 lelit pl41tem. Wish they made it at least like the peppina tamper...
Love the vid! But please do a separate video on the DF64V Ive been contemplating about getting it and cant decide between it and the 064timemore… seen all the comparing vids :)))
"bubble out of your house" 😂 I can relate
Hi. I am relatively new. You mentioned the use of tap water vs the importance of 'quality water'. Do you have a video on how to turn tap water into quality water or water into wine (that would work, too😅)
That was very heroic of you Lance! All ok apart from the de-presurizing part it was not very clear especially for beginners!
It's simply taking everything out of the portafilter. All the screws and plastic bits. Then replacing the basket with a cheap single wall basket from Amazon.
@@LanceHedrickOh, I see. You didn't show the replacement basket, so I was confused how you pulled the shot at first.
@@LanceHedrick51mm diameter?
I had to replace the whole portafilter. It doesn’t have a spring to hold the basket, just a lever holdy-thingy.