The SIMPLE Way to WIN Games! - Hector's Road to Challenger Ep 3
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- Welcome back to Episode 3 of Hector's Road to Challenger!
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You won't want to miss next episode.. Our guy was 1 win away from Challenger and winning, then his top laner sold all her items =) what happened next is also INTeresting..
Hector was just living our promos at that moment tbh.
Thank you so much! This has been VERY educational.
BTW when doing drake with j4, you can flag it and then buffer q while it is knocking you away so that you dash through the drake knock up
Poor Hector
I think there's nothing I would enjoy more than watching hector stream and saying all the stuff he can't say on the skill capped videos. I REALLY mean this
That Hector dodge at 0:30 against Diana was *sick*
Mediocre
Yeah, I had to rewind it.
Hector: I'm not good enough to be using F keys consistently throughout my gameplay
Also Hector: When i say I'm not good enough i don't mean I'm TRASH like you
MORE HECTOR VIDS. Lets watch and have fun and learn some great skills.
This series is like watching Hector's slow descent (or maybe ascent in this case?) into madness and it's awesome.
I never would've thought of ending and prolonging the laning phase. Just wow.
ye it sometimes feels pretty arbitrary, but you should watch some ADC mains like IKeepItTaco, XFsnSaber, Rekkless or KDrama they talk about this all the time because it benefits especially adcarries so much
I can't even express how awesome Hector's nuanced insights are, as is his ability to admit his own mistakes. Admirable. Thanks for this.
I can tell you how many times now my tower has gone down and I went "Thank god!"
So from my understanding about ending lane phases,
If your team is crushing their lane, you can extend the lane phase to get them further ahead
If your team is losing a lane, you might want to end the lane phase so that they can get out and find gold elsewhere
If your team is good at diving and getting picks, advancing to the mid-game might let you get ahead
If your team is not good at fighting randomly, try to keep towers up until your gold advantage means you can fight
I am so happy. I thought about the game, and realized a while ago, while being brinze 4, excactly this concept about towers. none of my friends agreed, and no one listened to me, despite me mathematically proving that I was right. Because of my rank. It feels so increadibly good that a really good player confirms my strategic intuition.
I am a new player, so every help is needed and after a few months watching your guides i started carrying my games so i am very thankful for you :)
This is actually super good information. I've been playing for 11 years now, always struggling to get out of Master/Grandmaster and most of the problem starts in midgame when it's just about fighting. I'm not the greatest when it comes to carrying teamfights unless I'm on a super comfortable champ. I usually love to play calculated and have the game the way I want it to be, not random flips all around the map. I usually try to get as many plates as possible before min 14 and then try to help my team while not losing too many waves on sides. But I will from now on consider more to let that tower alive and extend the laning phase.
As a former high-ranked HearthStone player myself, I laughed so hard at that comparison lol
wow man this is very insightful. cutting edge analysis honestly. thanks!
We call that being "in the zone " 0:50
yeah a lot of times I'll be like faker trading and go up 15 games but the next day I know what the right play is but it's so hard to actually do it for some reason, I call it the "slump effect"
This series is really, really good stuff. Good work, Hector.
And yes, do the team comp video.
Really nice video Hector.. I learned alot thxx
@1:47 Shots fired!
does hector stream? i would love to watch him more
5:08 personally, i like getting an early tower, i just like the macro stuff a lot, because since champs are so overtuned this is the fun part for me. As you say the lane phase is really static, if you hit your minions one time less or one too often, you mess up your wave already and have to play safe the next 3 minutes or so. You play against a lane bully, and stuff is really annoying.
While in the later stages you just have way more options to play around with.
I had one game yesterday where I played blitz support and absolutely sucked in lane. Adc was flaming me, jungle was flaming both of us, mid was doing fine, and top was winning. They kept trying to surrender. 4 times they tried. Adc-yes, jungle-yes, mid-yes, but top and I kept saying no.
And then the enemy threw 2 teammates, we got soul, and we won the game
I believe that having a strong mental and absolutely refusing to give up does win games
I’m here to watch the video, get some confidence, join a league game and lose because people decided that is a great day to go afk from 0 min
Thought this was eye opening! Thanks
I think rather than poppy wanting to end the lane phase, the thing is actually that Vlad is a scaling champ and therefore doesnt want to go into midgame asap.
A similar example would be Fiddle...you need time to get to 6 and get items yo sou dont really want to power through laning phase right into midgame, do you? So you might actually pay a lot of attention to the one thing that opens the map...Herald.
Look, I had ambitions to get good at this game, but when he dodged that Diana q in the beginning, I have so much more to go.
This no joke is good advice
Not that swapping lane usually works in soloq, but one could swap lane after between bot and top instead of araming for no reason. It would still keep the idea of lane phase while at the same time not being lanephase anymore. Your botlane would get richer and your riven couldve farmed vs the underleveled vayne and the rakan for free
this might help me a lot, when I play yorick and I am stomping the enemy in my lane I normally take both towers by 15 or less minutes. I might want to hold of on that and keep getting fed.
Please do make a video of when to dodge champion select!
I think Lol is evolving, people are realizing there’s more to the game then they thought. If lol is around in 20 years I wonder what the players will be like
you mainly feel like that probably because you are just realizing theres more to the game.
1:49 Chovy Showmaker McBaze Faker, we see what you did there. McBaze deserves it!
xD
classic 3rd panel meme
thank you so much man. i always thought "what if I just left their tower up? Wouldnt they cry as I crash every wave into their tower? But never seen anyone else do it so I couldnt figure out when I should be doing it.
The mid game transition is where I lose the most games that were free because its so hard to find videos on steps to secure wins or turtle out lost laning phase.
I didn’t think the Amazing Carlini would make it into a SkillCapped video
I used the f-keys in dota allstars, but it was for something totally different. control groups. it was for playing meepo in particular, but he wasn't the only hero that needed control groups to be effective. Meepo was just.. well known for it. dota 2 made it much easier and not totally necessary(like you can use all the abilities of all the meepos just by spamming keys as long as u have them all selected which was impossible in allstars). -_-random :P
Glad I’m not the only one to prolong laning phase, especially against scaling champions like Kayla or Nasus. If you break tower then they just free farm by their t2 turret while you have to over extend
I sometimes tend to think too much as well, sometimes I gank bot I assume their jg would invade my topside jg area, in which 90% of the cases they didn’t, and I waste time by going to their bot side jg to counter jg, which they’ve already cleared and I just ease time
extremely helpfull video. now I have to prepare some slides to show my teammates on champ select
I have 12 mouse buttons. I use 6 of them for item slots and then I use 1 through 4 for ally targeting
The dr k watcher love it
Hi Hector! I see you are also a fellow Dr K watcher! Nice to see one out there in the rift!
This guide was almost 10 years late for me
Mid game is just utterly stupid istg and I just recently acknowledged that that is how it will forever be in pubs/solo
Love the name, love Dr K
ive watched a bunch of these videos, and yet to improve rank.
Hector be cracking me up!
Spot Carlini playing chess at 4:48
i see hector is a fellow cultist. AOE HEALING
This might just be the most helpful guide or me at the moment. I've been using Yorick, Tryndamere and Sion to climb it's good butI think I can be better by not abusing my champs tower pushing abilities.
This kind of reminded me a game in which we were 15 kills ahead of the enemy team. When lane phase ended, the guys I fed as a jungler started to make plays 1v4 and 1v5 again and again and again, and our team couldn't never beat a 5v5 in equal terms. We started with thousands of gold ahead of them, and lost nexus due to cocky disturbing players trying to abuse the weak, as kids did in school with them.
Answer: Cuz fighting is funny xD
And unpredictable = funny sometimes if you win lol
I recently had a Game as Camille where I completely stomped a Riven. Solo killed her lvl 3, double her Farm all game. At 12min I killed her under Turret, was 5/0 at the time with 80cs, proxied a Wave and wanted to kill her again between tier1 and 2 tower. Instead of my 0/5 Riven came 9/0 Draven with 1 1/2 Items and his Lulu 2 shoting me. While in Greyscreen I watched as the 0/5 Riven tps Bot while my Varus and Sona just stand ontop of the Ward so she can kill both of them simultaniously. No matter how good you do, Bot will always feed.....
10:30 Is the Vlad vs Poppy game still on the site? I couldn't find it sorting by HgHector and Top role.
can we have a video on how to draft for things like clash and scrims?
amazing video!
Riven actually help got bottom turret, red dragon, and important make their bottom lanes give up =D
Hey skillcapped. I have a kinda stupid situation. So you heard of lol wild rift I imagine. I don’t have my pc at times so I kinda play it a lot. Most stuff carries over but that’s not the point. In wild rift I’m really good at top but not at jungle. In lol pc I’m really good at jungle but I suck at top lane. What should I do? I play wild rift a lot, but those 9/0/10 consistent games of jungle on lol pc look nice. Or u don’t care at all which is understandable. Still loving the guides btw.
by that logic, it would be best to end the laning phase of your roamer so they can roam into the winning lane more?
yo hector 7:27 what you think of that approach spamping your team to go for drake bluffing to your opponents there are 5 people bot but instead you go top deffing tower and getting gold by the time you are top they got drake. its like 70% chance or higher enemy fall for that and you just get free drake and def top?
Question!! What do you do if you're stomping your lane, but your other 2 lanes are in the opposite position and they're being stomped. Wouldn't you want to take your tower so you can go help your other lanes? Or no?
You should only rotate to those objectives you need, otherwise keep snowballing and pressuring. Depends a lot on what champion are you playing and particular team compositions(think Shen), but generally its not a good idea to leave your oponent alone to help your teammates.
@@luezma My specific example is with Nasus. I'll be 5/0 in laning phase, but my mid lane is 0/5, my bot lane is 2/9, jungler is doing mediocre but not great.... What do I do there? I don't think the answer is just sit in lane all day and make one enemy suffer while the rest of the enemy team is steamrolling, right?
@@dialp4penguin it's not something I could just answer right now, and I don't consider myself good with nasus. My first guess is that you definitely need to keep splitting and keeping the enemy team in check (do they siege and let you push/kill whoever contests your push or collapse on you) and stay farmed, but at some point you'll be forced to group although you will slowly lose your advantage the more you group, look at it as an investment.
@@luezma That's a good general reply though, thanks so much!!
Dr. K watcher :DDDD I love it :) Who would say there is soon to be challenger in HG community
Y uno aquí batallando vea.
I mean i understand the idea and the concept but.. lets say i have a lead, i get to snowball, say im 6/1, shouldnt i WANT to end the lane phase so i can take my lead and help my others team mates snowball too? i mean, my lane opponent would be averaging around 200 or so gold per kill, plus i have to put into the balance if i prefer one tilted enemy or my teammates bitching enough they tilt themselves into throwing
So if i get ahead in laning phase i dont need to hit the turret fast but instead prolong it is that correct
Kind of sus how the account dr k watcher doesn't seem to exist anymore
9:48, well aside from team fighting, there is split pushing is there not :O
Subconsciosly every Nasus understand this concept.
yes but i cant hold off on not autoing a tower as an adc, because if i dont auto it my support will do it instead. Btw they also do it a lot after i start recalling and they end up overstaying,messing up their back time and even die.
Even wen turret plate is still up as well
hector i love you ❤
For some reason I really thought the video would just be: „just destroy the nexus lol“
I'm in gold and these types of plays are very frequent, i had a duo last week playing nami support with me lucian, wave was being pushed on us and nami randomly decides to go midlane, two waves crashed under our tower but they get double kill mid, i tell the nami this game is lost because of that roam, he tells me, and i quote, "no, we got a doublr kill" we proceed to get dove by a leona graves, lose tower and their botlane goes and kills midlane, we lost the game
Does Hector use the Futures Market cheese on Malzahar to get Lost Chapter at 4 minutes?
This feels like some high level guide, is this reflexion (to extend the laning phase) that useful in lower elos like diamond ?
Sure is!
What rank was the j4 game in?
whaaaaat? telling people to not move mid to aram as fast as humanly possible? Hector's trolling guys, gg
"does your team thrives in chaos ?"
me looking at my draft :
_shaco
_zed
_teemo
_evelyn
_Jinx
hm...yeah i think.
"Insane Outplay from [Tryndamere] incoming" 💀
I know I came 6 month late here but ... I really have a question that's been bugging me during the entire Guide.
you said that laning phase is predictable and therefore should be prolonged and mid game is chaotic.
and I get that ... when everyone gets his power spike and fights involve more than one or two players the play becomes extremely sharp and tiny negligible mistakes can lead to throwing entire games.
But thinking from another perspective ... what about tempo ???
doesn't taking tower plates grant you permanent gold that cannot be redeemed after the 14 min mark ?
why sacrifice all that gold if you are ahead that's literally free tempo.
the second thing is ... well now you are ahead and extremely powerful and someone is getting tortured in their lane and they probably wanna ff and will affect their team negatively, but thinking about it from a logical stand point suppose your enemy laner is actually tilt proof and can be calm. Then who is actually trapped in lane here ? Him the useless player who was feeding the entire game and is probably better afk.
Or you the one who can literally destroy the entire enemy team but you are stuck laning because you don't want him to catch up.
I think of it like you are the lion in a cage waiting to be released to single handedly carry this game.
The concept explained in this Guide is very confusing and seems to contradict a lot of other concepts stressed on in other guides here on the channel.
I would really like a detailed explanation.
is that hector IRL 05:03 uwu
1:51 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don't get it. How come prolonging the laning phase can be more beneficial?
If I destroyed my opponent in the top lane, the only thing in my mind is to get the first tower gold and lane swap to get more plate gold.
Isn't this the most efficient method?
if your opponent is hard losing the lane phase. Every minute spent in the laning phase, you are gaining more of an advantage over your opponent since you are killing them/denying farm/exp. Therefore, the longer you spend in laning phase, the bigger your advantage becomes. If you end the laning phase, then you might get more of an advantage by swapping lanes and getting more plate gold, but some bullshit can and will happen such as your other laners refusing to swap adn then you share farm and lose gold. Or some bullshit 5v5 happens that you lose, because even tho you might be a 2/0 darius against a 0/2 malphite which you can absolutely destroy in the 1v1, your advantage will mean jack shit when the malphite ults your entire team and you get 5 man shockwaved by the enemy 3/0 orianna. In this case it is much better to make the malphite 0/7 and ragequit by prolonging the lane phase.
I understand that there is a lot you can learn in this video but why are we watching a vod from S10? (The Vlad one)
That ended kind of abruptly
Instructions not clear, hard stuck in Particle Board IV
I never hit challenger (d2 on euw) but i fundamentally disagree with you about the game state when the riven goes bot. Idk how it’s even possible to loose after that tbh? Your botlane must have had a massive stroke (which happens). I think if you just continue facestomping them topside with your botlane the game just ends. Perhaps your tilt stopped you from communicating that to them? Idk how they killed themselves in mid (I do admit that’s some next level inting) but it’s probably prevent if you just walk with them and engage the seraphin the second she shows her face? I just rewatched it. How the fk did they die mid lol?! NA things
Im vlad main and im really thankful of seeing u play vlad
well thank you for sharing this vdo
for me climbing in low elo i would rather destroy the tower
then push furter if jg come to my lane it mean i can attract jg attention from my team
and then i back away or just crush them if i can
if top lane go to other lane it mean 'i can get another tower'
until i can attract enemy attention and let my team play freely
the risk is on me and i know what i can do so it ok for me to take the risk
and torture top lane in laning phase can't carry the entire game
i'm in low diamon on garena server by the way
so i'm also a low elo T T
Why did you start red this game?
I gues that it was for lv 2 gank mid.
But still i think that i would start top because your bot lane is heavy engage.
League of legends is already more of a sport than chess -.-
And is more fun to watch.
the faster i click the faster i climb muhaha🥰🥰
where the subtitle
For low elo I just q jungle and look at how my teammates are playing, if there is a potential I help them, if there is none I just go next. Its not possible to solo carry 3 loosing lanes. At least one lane has to be clearly winning for me to care. I like when my top is winning bc its so far away from objectives I can gank one or twice to start the snowball and then the enemy jg either has to save top or it will go out of control, therefore easy drakes for me. Winning mid is also awesome because then we basically get 2 junglers just roaming. Bot is ussualy not a win con for me, unless the adc is playing a mage like ziggs or swain or whatever and they have good amount of cc. Classic adc is ussualy useless. I never play around bot unless the enemy is just a peanut brain then its an easy snowball for me. I always tell my bot that the only way I will come is if I see a chance to get drake after. I fully expect bot to win even if they are camped by enemy jg. Or at least to not feed. If I have a bad game then I ask my most competent player what he wants me to do so he can carry me easier. If all lanes loose I call ff and go next, I know its possible to come back but everyone has to have a clue how to and in gold/plat people just don't have that game knowledge.
hmmm........... weird subject. "at your peak" "in the zone" i get it. a lot of this "analyst information" is stuff that's learned while you're just.. generally playing the game. or all of it really can be learned just by playing the game. all you have to do is revert back to when everything you did was habit or instinctual. You can do that with the f-keys as well, if you want to eventually incorporate them.. but you might be having problems with that because you're busy thinking about other things that don't necessarily have to be thought out. Like, a lot of time is wasted on grief.
So when I destroyed top turret as akali thats what made nasus win the game
Yep! nobody punishes him correctly and that's generally the main reason he's viable. You want a big disparity in gold, as opposed to just prioritizing gold on you.
Hi Bro can u make a wildrift pro guide? Im watching u but im playing Wildrift and its working tysm
extended lvl 1 invades are game losing... your team might get 2 kills but if they get to lane late then they all get dunked on by the lvl 2 enemy resulting in lost farm snowballing into missing lvl 6 powerspike leading to a lost tf at dragon or rift... and those kills early would have been meaningless... idk maybe i should stop watching jun entrance so team doesnt get stupid ideas as often...
Riven was getting clapped by a poppy. I think anyone would try to end laningphase assp in that situation.
Boredom makes people do questionsble things
How to simply win a game?
Just que as jungle
Of course the 4 league titans Chovi Showmaker Mcbaze Faker
I just had a game zyra-cait (I'm cait) vs ashe lux. she could farm a little.. but we were damaging them so much. until the zyra fed ashe like 3 times. anyway not the point. the point is, I kept taking plates. and eventually the tower. but if I'd done what is said here and left the tower and tried to farm ashe.. well it wouldn't have helped because meanwhile kayn was farming my whole team. we lost, bad. oh btw.. kayn is broke as f*
Throwing mcbaze name in between showmakers and fakers is crazy 😂😂