@@silverpurkat Honestly I dont think it will be worth it to upgrade from D to an E dismount unless super clean, because this D rated Dismount is clean. I think only thing she could add is two more laso on the mount, but also a 6.7 is supers solid so I am happy if she just keeps it and works on bars, vault and maybe adding silvas back to floor if possible
Ya thts who I have too. I’m so curious about jade’s upgraded floor. Will she be as good as Tokyo? Or even better? Off topic but it’s crazy how both simone and suni surpassed their Tokyo difficulty on floor and beam, respectively
@@howlshedo They changed the artistry rules since Tokyo. Probably to prevent an athlete like Jade from winning. They don't just want difficulty, they want dance and expression. Jade is giving more, but it's still weak.
@@0xTRellyx0tbh I think Tokyo’s quad was pretty harsh on artistry too. Jade managed to get gold in Tokyo due to sheer tumbling difficulty because her E score wasn’t great despite solid landings.
@@howlshedo Artistic gymnastics is STILL a SPORT and NOT a dance contest so although artistic elements are encouraged it CANNOT and MUST NOT trump the acro that is why Jade won because despite not being very artistic (or not at all some might say) her sheer tumbling ability is second to NO ONE in the WORLD other than Simone. If the US had sense when going to Tokyo it would have included her on the team. They did not and I think the POORLY put together team meant that Simone practically had to carry it on her shoulder. The pressure of that and other things ( the impending US Senate hearing on Larry Nasseur, lack of family support at Tokyo, the isolation etc...) proved to be too much. This time around they would do well to pick her because she fits PERFECTLY with any team. At the end of the day, one has to play to one's strength.
hope you know that jordans scoring internationally is not high jades score are better the international judges like jade more than jordan so I would take jade
Have to see who's healthy and who steps up and upgrades on each event and looks Olympic Games Ready!!! Gonna have to kick all your favorites out of the your emotions when choosing!!!
This is my prediction too. I also put the same up on each event as you. I think Kayla and Jordan will be travelling alternates and Leanne and Joscelyn will be the non travelling alternates. I could also see Tiana and Hezly getting alternate but my predictions are Kayla, Jordan, Leanne and Joscelyn. If there was such thing as alternate for alternates that's where I would put Tiana and Hezly.
People.need to remember they aren't going to base their decisions on just the last competition.....which many that shined at Xfinity didn't score as well at US classic....
So Jordan mentioned something about an amanar and Cheng vaults if both Jade and Jordan bring those vaults at trials am scared for the selection committee
If Jordan brings upgraded vaults, or even just 1 upgraded vault, I think Jade will probably get the alternate spot because Jordan has cleaner form and better artistry on floor. I love Jade, but this quad’s CoP doesn’t work in her favor 😭
When did Jordan mention this? I know there have been rumors she’s been working on those two vaults, but I’d only heard her actually say that she had her Amanar back. The Cheng is still a massive question to me.
@@DoreenBwalya-uc8ve oh! Thank you! Yeah if she hasn’t brought it yet I don’t think she’s going to. Trials is way too risky of a meet to risk two new vaults with. I think it will be like 2021 where she was training the Amanar all year and just didn’t compete it. I just hope her not competing it doesn’t cast her a spot on the team.
My team is 1) Biles 2) Jones (assuming the shoulder injury withdrawal was just precautionary) 3) Lee (want to see her up her bars difficulty a bit more at trials) 4) Blakely (want to see her hit both nights on beams and bars and that her Cheng is reliable) 5) Chiles (don’t want to see any falls) Carey and DiCello the traveling alternates. If Carey ups her floor difficult and hits minimum 14.00 on both nights, I swap Chiles out and she takes that spot DiCello can make the team if she hits both nights of trials and Chiles and/or Blakely have injuries or horrendous trials. Wong and Rivera are probably the alternates that stay at home. Wong needs to have the meet of her life and needs to have others to have injuries or terrible meets Rivera is probably too green to make the team right now. Way too many gymnasts just as good and with tons more of international experience.
I agree almost 100% with you expect that Jade has the edge in my opinion. She can easily upgrade her fx and has her unbelievably dependable cheng on her side. Not to mention her potential amanar. She only needs to show a hit 6.1+ fx at trials and SHE’S ON THE TEAM. After all, I prefer to believe The Selection Committee won’t be dumb and stupid enough to leave the reigning Olympic fx champ off if she hits. The bigger problem for her is the disservice of the US judges, but even they can’t deny her 14s if she hits her upgraded fx. Besides that, Chiles won’t be able to score 14+ internationally on fx with the routine she has now unless she improves some aspects. Her bad dance series would be costing her A LOT -luckily for her the US judges are not deducting properly at all or downgrading it, but would definitely be at Paris tho. So without a strong fx set, she simply isn’t a contributor to the team anywhere potentially and can’t make ANY finals ( only good thing would be the chance to rest Biles or Shi in TF and her solid DTY, but with Skye’s and Jade’s cheng who needs it? ). Therefore she isn’t needed. Kayla can definitely make the team but will need some help (from someone like Jordan), despite also getting “help” from the US judges. So, with all these 4 (The Goat doesn’t count) hitting at trials the Team should be BILES SHI SUNI SKYE JADE *The bigger problem with this team is that if suni places top 3 AA and Shi maintains her 2nd AA place at trials, then it’ll be a FIGHT for who does AA at QF because Biles and Jade are two sure vaulters, then there is Shi who’s the second best AA and there is still Skye and Suni. So theoretically you’d choose Skye who’s capable of doing a harder vault, but at the same time how do you leave the reigning Olympic AA champ out of the AA quest if she’s in shape? UGHHHHHHH SO HARD.
why would you put jordan and not jade if you don’t want falls jade would get on jade doesn’t really fall on floor I haven’t seen her jordan has like twice this competition season… so I would take jade
I think the outcome at Trials will be different than what we expect. Shilese could struggle, given her recent injury. I see Kayla, Jade and Suni making this team. The judges have handed Kayla a spot on a silver platter. All she needs to do is stay on her apparatus-same with Suni. Jade is pretty consistent and only needs her upgrades to make the team. Not only can Skye not fall, but she cannot falter and make the team. She better not wobble or miss any connections because she will not be gifted any scores like Kayla and Suni receive.
the first time before recent history that 2 African American women made the Olympic Gymnastics team was 1992 Betty Okino and Dominique Dawes and Dawes went to three Olympics winning 4 medals 3 Bronze and a Gold team bronze 1992 & 2000 Team Gold in 1996 and floor ex bronze in 2000. mind you the only Olympics the US didn't win a team all around medal in at a non boycotted Olympics was 1988 Seoul South Korea the only female Gymnast ever to win all 6 medals women Gymnasts can win at the Olympics was Romania's Daniela Silivas 2 Silver 1 Bronze 3 Gold team silver individual silver Vault Bronze Floor Uneven Bars and Balance Beam Gold no American has ever done it she's in 7th place for medals won at the Olympics. the most a man has ever won at a single Olympics is 7 medals and that's Boris Shakhlin in 1960
@@Pastyovercoat I will be glad if they pull the 'race card' like some people do and put one on the team. We can call it AFFIRMATIVE ACTION in retrospect.
@@sean-xc3htThat isn’t what the issue is with Jade. The issue is that artistry is WAY stricter, and she is getting out performed every single competition. Skye, Jordan, Kayla, Kaliyah, Tiana, etc. They have all outscored Jade on one of the two events she excels in.
@@taylorburtis That is ONLY domestic scoring though and the SAME THING happened at US trials in 2021. They kept giving other gymnasts scores on vault and PARTICULARLY on floor more than Jade but guess what? JADE went to Tokyo against all the naysayers and she walked away with gold on FLOOR. Irrespective of however much they push the 'artistry' thing, it CANNOT and WILL NOT trump the acro because as so many people have noted, this is NOT a dance contest otherwise Simone will lose every time. Jade's strength is her tumbling which is second to NO ONE ELSE in the WHOLE WORLD of WAG other than Simone. If she brings a 6.3+ difficulty to floor, then there is NO WAY they can justify scoring anyone else higher than her. All the 'artistry' that Shilese and Leanne had over Jade and for which they got 14+ scores last year at domestic competitions NEVER materialized at Worlds because it can only carry you so far. The selection committee was FOOLISH to have left her off the team for Tokyo and they will be UTTERLY FOOLISH to leave her off the team this time around. Only someone who has a Cheng and Amanar as well as a 6+ floor should replace her because that is what she can bring to the team.
When I average out Suni’s beam scores, I’m actually getting a 14.567!
14.6
14.2
14.9
Yes, that's right,! Thank you for the correction:)
Rumors have it she is going to upgrade her dismount too so it could be even higher! 😮
@@silverpurkat Honestly I dont think it will be worth it to upgrade from D to an E dismount unless super clean, because this D rated Dismount is clean. I think only thing she could add is two more laso on the mount, but also a 6.7 is supers solid so I am happy if she just keeps it and works on bars, vault and maybe adding silvas back to floor if possible
Shilese's uneven bars are breathtaking. The audience's ahhs and ooh's seem to agree 😂
Love the balletic elegance that Shilise brings to the sport.
Simone. Shilese. Jordan. Skye. Suni.
Ya thts who I have too. I’m so curious about jade’s upgraded floor. Will she be as good as Tokyo? Or even better?
Off topic but it’s crazy how both simone and suni surpassed their Tokyo difficulty on floor and beam, respectively
@@howlshedo They changed the artistry rules since Tokyo. Probably to prevent an athlete like Jade from winning. They don't just want difficulty, they want dance and expression. Jade is giving more, but it's still weak.
@@0xTRellyx0tbh I think Tokyo’s quad was pretty harsh on artistry too. Jade managed to get gold in Tokyo due to sheer tumbling difficulty because her E score wasn’t great despite solid landings.
@@howlshedo Artistic gymnastics is STILL a SPORT and NOT a dance contest so although artistic elements are encouraged it CANNOT and MUST NOT trump the acro that is why Jade won because despite not being very artistic (or not at all some might say) her sheer tumbling ability is second to NO ONE in the WORLD other than Simone.
If the US had sense when going to Tokyo it would have included her on the team. They did not and I think the POORLY put together team meant that Simone practically had to carry it on her shoulder. The pressure of that and other things ( the impending US Senate hearing on Larry Nasseur, lack of family support at Tokyo, the isolation etc...) proved to be too much. This time around they would do well to pick her because she fits PERFECTLY with any team. At the end of the day, one has to play to one's strength.
hope you know that jordans scoring internationally is not high jades score are better the international judges like jade more than jordan so I would take jade
wow for all the routines! Go Suni!
Have to see who's healthy and who steps up and upgrades on each event and looks Olympic Games Ready!!! Gonna have to kick all your favorites out of the your emotions when choosing!!!
This is my prediction too. I also put the same up on each event as you. I think Kayla and Jordan will be travelling alternates and Leanne and Joscelyn will be the non travelling alternates. I could also see Tiana and Hezly getting alternate but my predictions are Kayla, Jordan, Leanne and Joscelyn. If there was such thing as alternate for alternates that's where I would put Tiana and Hezly.
This is My Dream Team! Jades floor will be more difficult by trials too. We need help floor and vault 😊
Simone, Suni, Shilese, Jade and Skye. This is who I think will be on the team unless there is injuries, Then Jordan, Kayla and Jocelyn as alternates.
Wong will be an alternate probably.
Poor Leanne and Kayla 😭 They just don’t have enough difficulty and I don’t know why their coaches refuse to at least TRY
Kayla did try, she just wasn’t getting credit
Kayla still has a chance, unlike Leanne.
poor kayla? judges are pushing her like CRAZY
People.need to remember they aren't going to base their decisions on just the last competition.....which many that shined at Xfinity didn't score as well at US classic....
Simone, Jones, Lee, Jade & Skye are definitely the BEST WINNING TEAM with Kayla & Chills as alternates ! WOW
So Jordan mentioned something about an amanar and Cheng vaults if both Jade and Jordan bring those vaults at trials am scared for the selection committee
I’m shocked Jordan hasn’t done a Cheng yet. Her Lopez is the best in the world by far and she could definitely get the needed rotation
If Jordan brings upgraded vaults, or even just 1 upgraded vault, I think Jade will probably get the alternate spot because Jordan has cleaner form and better artistry on floor. I love Jade, but this quad’s CoP doesn’t work in her favor 😭
When did Jordan mention this? I know there have been rumors she’s been working on those two vaults, but I’d only heard her actually say that she had her Amanar back. The Cheng is still a massive question to me.
@@joshua0393 when she was a guest commentator on one of the NCAA meet early this year
@@DoreenBwalya-uc8ve oh! Thank you! Yeah if she hasn’t brought it yet I don’t think she’s going to. Trials is way too risky of a meet to risk two new vaults with. I think it will be like 2021 where she was training the Amanar all year and just didn’t compete it. I just hope her not competing it doesn’t cast her a spot on the team.
Honestly a team of just Suni, Simone, Shilese, and Skye would be fine by itself
My team is
1) Biles
2) Jones (assuming the shoulder injury withdrawal was just precautionary)
3) Lee (want to see her up her bars difficulty a bit more at trials)
4) Blakely (want to see her hit both nights on beams and bars and that her Cheng is reliable)
5) Chiles (don’t want to see any falls)
Carey and DiCello the traveling alternates.
If Carey ups her floor difficult and hits minimum 14.00 on both nights, I swap Chiles out and she takes that spot
DiCello can make the team if she hits both nights of trials and Chiles and/or Blakely have injuries or horrendous trials.
Wong and Rivera are probably the alternates that stay at home.
Wong needs to have the meet of her life and needs to have others to have injuries or terrible meets
Rivera is probably too green to make the team right now. Way too many gymnasts just as good and with tons more of international experience.
I agree almost 100% with you expect that Jade has the edge in my opinion.
She can easily upgrade her fx and has her unbelievably dependable cheng on her side. Not to mention her potential amanar.
She only needs to show a hit 6.1+ fx at trials and SHE’S ON THE TEAM. After all, I prefer to believe The Selection Committee won’t be dumb and stupid enough to leave the reigning Olympic fx champ off if she hits.
The bigger problem for her is the disservice of the US judges, but even they can’t deny her 14s if she hits her upgraded fx.
Besides that, Chiles won’t be able to score 14+ internationally on fx with the routine she has now unless she improves some aspects. Her bad dance series would be costing her A LOT -luckily for her the US judges are not deducting properly at all or downgrading it, but would definitely be at Paris tho.
So without a strong fx set, she simply isn’t a contributor to the team anywhere potentially and can’t make ANY finals ( only good thing would be the chance to rest Biles or Shi in TF and her solid DTY, but with Skye’s and Jade’s cheng who needs it? ). Therefore she isn’t needed.
Kayla can definitely make the team but will need some help (from someone like Jordan), despite also getting “help” from the US judges.
So, with all these 4 (The Goat doesn’t count) hitting at trials the Team should be
BILES
SHI
SUNI
SKYE
JADE
*The bigger problem with this team is that if suni places top 3 AA and Shi maintains her 2nd AA place at trials, then it’ll be a FIGHT for who does AA at QF because Biles and Jade are two sure vaulters, then there is Shi who’s the second best AA and there is still Skye and Suni. So theoretically you’d choose Skye who’s capable of doing a harder vault, but at the same time how do you leave the reigning Olympic AA champ out of the AA quest if she’s in shape? UGHHHHHHH SO HARD.
why would you put jordan and not jade if you don’t want falls jade would get on jade doesn’t really fall on floor I haven’t seen her jordan has like twice this competition season… so I would take jade
Why did you have to do Biles dirty like that and show the double piked yurchenko she fell when her day 1 vault was much better?
They did that on purpose, to show she still scored a 15.000 with a fall, and an average of over 15.400 over the 3 days of competition.
You are all forgetting Kaliya Lincoln she won Pan Am floor 2023 I think she would be an asset.
my dream team is exactly this
I think the outcome at Trials will be different than what we expect. Shilese could struggle, given her recent injury. I see Kayla, Jade and Suni making this team. The judges have handed Kayla a spot on a silver platter. All she needs to do is stay on her apparatus-same with Suni. Jade is pretty consistent and only needs her upgrades to make the team. Not only can Skye not fall, but she cannot falter and make the team. She better not wobble or miss any connections because she will not be gifted any scores like Kayla and Suni receive.
yeah and we better prepare for when they'll score at least 0.5 lower at paris. I dont really get this overscoring stuff
the first time before recent history that 2 African American women made the Olympic Gymnastics team was 1992 Betty Okino and Dominique Dawes and Dawes went to three Olympics winning 4 medals 3 Bronze and a Gold team bronze 1992 & 2000 Team Gold in 1996 and floor ex bronze in 2000. mind you the only Olympics the US didn't win a team all around medal in at a non boycotted Olympics was 1988 Seoul South Korea the only female Gymnast ever to win all 6 medals women Gymnasts can win at the Olympics was Romania's Daniela Silivas 2 Silver 1 Bronze 3 Gold team silver individual silver Vault Bronze Floor Uneven Bars and Balance Beam Gold no American has ever done it she's in 7th place for medals won at the Olympics. the most a man has ever won at a single Olympics is 7 medals and that's Boris Shakhlin in 1960
The real question is....who is gonna be the white girl on the team?! 😂
If any
No one 😂
I don’t think there will be one this time
@@Pastyovercoat I will be glad if they pull the 'race card' like some people do and put one on the team. We can call it AFFIRMATIVE ACTION in retrospect.
@@aliciamcdonald7105who is some people?
notice how jordans not in this video bc we don’t need her
Jade ain’t it yall
Yall acting like Jade can’t add .5 to her floor SV and also be a major contender for a vault medal, she’s the perfect balance for suni
🤣🤣🤣 Well said. I don't get the obsession.
@@sean-xc3ht Jade seems like a sweet girl, but her gymnastics is stiff and clunky. Yall acting like this girl is Kim Zmeskal...Stooooooop!
@@sean-xc3htThat isn’t what the issue is with Jade. The issue is that artistry is WAY stricter, and she is getting out performed every single competition. Skye, Jordan, Kayla, Kaliyah, Tiana, etc. They have all outscored Jade on one of the two events she excels in.
@@taylorburtis That is ONLY domestic scoring though and the SAME THING happened at US trials in 2021. They kept giving other gymnasts scores on vault and PARTICULARLY on floor more than Jade but guess what? JADE went to Tokyo against all the naysayers and she walked away with gold on FLOOR. Irrespective of however much they push the 'artistry' thing, it CANNOT and WILL NOT trump the acro because as so many people have noted, this is NOT a dance contest otherwise Simone will lose every time. Jade's strength is her tumbling which is second to NO ONE ELSE in the WHOLE WORLD of WAG other than Simone. If she brings a 6.3+ difficulty to floor, then there is NO WAY they can justify scoring anyone else higher than her.
All the 'artistry' that Shilese and Leanne had over Jade and for which they got 14+ scores last year at domestic competitions NEVER materialized at Worlds because it can only carry you so far. The selection committee was FOOLISH to have left her off the team for Tokyo and they will be UTTERLY FOOLISH to leave her off the team this time around. Only someone who has a Cheng and Amanar as well as a 6+ floor should replace her because that is what she can bring to the team.