Rhythmic training wheels for Große Fuge (Beethoven opus 133)

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 พ.ค. 2024
  • Ludwig van Beethoven's Große Fuge (Great Fugue), opus 133, performed by The Alexander String Quartet, with an animated graphical score showing measure downbeats.
    FAQ
    A: What is the purpose of this video?
    Q: There are many ways Beethoven's Große Fuge can challenging for listeners: much of its motivic material is very angular, the chromatic harmonies contain lots of dissonance, the texture can be very dense, and it's highly contrapuntal. I've made several videos of the piece in an attempt to clarify its motivic structure ...
    www.musanim.com/GrosseFuge/
    ... and given some guidance in following the harmonies in the piece's opening ...
    www.musanim.com/GrosseFuge/Un...
    ... but one of the major stumbling blocks is rhythm. The music is highly syncopated, and it's hard to understand what's going on if you don't know where the beats are. So, in this video, I've add a bouncing ball measure marker so show where the downbeats are. If you'd like to refer to a conventional score, this one ...
    www.musanim.com/pdf/Beethoven...
    ... has measure numbers that match the ones shown in the video.
    Q: Where can I learn more about the Alexander String Quartet?
    A: Here:
    www.asq4.com
    Q: Where can I buy the album this is from?
    A: Here:
    www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002...
    Q: I appreciate the animated graphical scores you make; how can I support your work?
    A: Thank you! The easiest way to support my work is by contributing via Patreon:
    / musanim
    If you'd like to help in more specific way, consider this:
    www.musanim.com/underwriting
    Q: Could you please do a MAM video of _________?
    A: Please read this:
    www.musanim.com/requests/
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ความคิดเห็น • 20

  • @jonp3890
    @jonp3890 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Most definitely the strangest piece Beethoven ever composed. I absolutely hated it the first time I heard it, but it grows on you. Like body hair. But this graphical score helps you take a razor to it and sculpt your understanding better of what all is going on with this crazy beast.

    • @Adeodatus100
      @Adeodatus100 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Over the years I've gone from "What the hell is this godawful noise?" to "This is the greatest music ever written".

    • @letMeSayThatInIrish
      @letMeSayThatInIrish 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I had completely forgotten it existed. They played it every now and then on Norwegian radio back in the 80's and 90's when I was a kid. It was just there in the background. As you say, it grows on you. Today I loved every second of it.

    • @CrossbowManD
      @CrossbowManD 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I loved it the first time I heard it, which was also from this TH-cam channel

  • @flippert0
    @flippert0 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Late Beethoven is his own genre ;-)

  • @Richard.Atkinson
    @Richard.Atkinson 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Amazing video as usual! It really helps the viewer understand the crazy metric shift in that transition at 9:30.

    • @123Joack
      @123Joack 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Demystifying große fugue part 2?

  • @samuellafleur6945
    @samuellafleur6945 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    bruh moment at 1:10 when you realize you've heard the downbeat wrong your whole life... but I think my original interpretation still works fine

  • @bsku0765
    @bsku0765 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Great Fugue!!!!!!!!

    • @bsku0765
      @bsku0765 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Aka the best music.

  • @leonhardeuler6811
    @leonhardeuler6811 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Really wished this video existed when i first listen to the grosse, especially for 3:35

    • @smalin
      @smalin  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Me too (back in the early 1970s).

  • @damaljinev
    @damaljinev 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ah, I see you've finished this. Thanks, Mr. Malinowski!

  • @dc.kastel
    @dc.kastel 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The original video on this piece is what made me discover your channel many years ago so this brings back memories :)
    Thank you for coming back to it

  • @spnhm34
    @spnhm34 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Strangest speedrun of Rainbow Islands ever.

  • @stephenf3838
    @stephenf3838 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great

  • @gogatsu26
    @gogatsu26 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Swingin' the 1820's

  • @sasha_sokol
    @sasha_sokol 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Might I suggest pre-empting the downbeats slightly (as a conductor would)? I get the feeling that sometimes the downbeats appear 'late' even though they're actually perfectly in time.

    • @smalin
      @smalin  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I've actually already done that! But I agree --- they still do seem late. It's interesting: the timing of the downbeats doesn't seem to have the same effect on the note action/highlighting as it does with the arcs. When I started, without the arcs, everything seemed fine, but the arcs seemed very late, and I found that, in fact, the synchronization track had lots of late timings. So, I fixed them all, and even overshot (making the sync points earlier than the note onset) on some notes. But it still isn't enough.

    • @sasha_sokol
      @sasha_sokol 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@smalin oh, curious! Possibly a factor is that the note highlighting is predictable whereas it's not always obvious where exactly the arc is going to land. Maybe some confirmation bias going on but I think the lateness effect is stronger when there's an extra complication e.g. the arc dips down to a lower voice, the next arc is under instead of over.