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Annoying. Turned it off 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎
Bye Felicia!
ur annoying. where is your mute button!?
@@KarmaStoriesPodcastyour amazing 😁
I mean, you didn't have to leave a comment ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@KarmaStoriesPodcast why are you reading ever so slowly
My manager redefined my role (against my will) to have a billable ratio of zero. Essentially I was full time business development, not billable to any client. I told him that I would have no job security without being billable, but he insisted. Predictably, months later they fired me for having no billable hours. I explained my directives, but they said I was lying and gave me 2 months severance and a boot out the door. And then... I sent them the printed emails I had saved proving that I was working precisely as directed. They didn't blink, until I filed a lawsuit for libel against my manager, personally. INSTANTLY, their lawyer gave me a nice, FAT settlement.
Yes some management thinks the employee is too gullible to keep an email trail on them !! You saved everything needed to bury them ! Good for you! I would have sued the company too not just the manager because the company sanctioned it obviously
always get things in wrighting
I had this happen to me as a baby engineer. However, the manager told me verbally and I didn't have the wherewithal to ask for it in writing. He told me to deprioritize certain projects in favor of others and then nailed me to the wall for focusing on the "wrong" projects when review time came. Luckily, I was already looking for a new job, but I'm still livid years later.
@@mkjirak I have a solution for you! when a manager tells you verbally and won’t generate an email trail on purpose. Email him back to verify what was agreed upon verbally! That way he can’t get amnesia on purpose like he was doing to you! If management wants all the projects completed in an unrealistic time frame, tell them what they want first or to get more people and resources! Tell them to authorize over time if they want it so bad!
@@johnhardasnails7464 yeah, if they fake amnesia you can too xD "which projects did you say I should prioritise again?"
Well, but life is never smooth sailing anyway
For reference, 700,000 sheets of 8 x 11 is around 7000 lbs, or about three pallets stacked 4 feet high.
And 700,000 sheets of A4, 80g paper would be exactly 3.5 t (=3500 kg) of paper (because A4 is exactly 1/16 of a square meter, A0 is exactly 1 square meter), stack them on top of each other it would be around 90 m high
@@dyidyirr ..the mathematical definition yes...
i practice A0= is defined as 841 x 1189 mm wich is 999 949 square mm
A4 is 210 x 297 mm, is 62 370 square mm(0.062 m²) , 1/16.032532 of A0
700k x 0.06237 x 80 = 3 492 720 gram = 3492.72 kg
@@Patrik6920 the definition of a4 paper is 1/16m2 (with a ratio of 1:sqrt(2)), to account for rounding. You could rephrase as “16 sheets of a4 per square meter”.
pages, not sheets, so half that assuming they printed front and back, yeah?
Thanks Dwight.
Worked for an Aerospace company that sold Hydraulic Tubing. A certain company from the Bahamas called for some hydraulic tubing for an aircraft. When asked what the spec was (specs will tell you everything about it. Thickness of wall. Material, Hardness, Pressure it will withstand etc). The woman said 'Anything will do... what do you have?". LOL... Yeah.. we made it a point to never fly that airline again. EVER.
Merde! Care to share? I don’t feel like dying just yet!
@@xyz.ijk. It's pretty easy... google Bahamas and Air you'll find it.. it's the first one. :-)
@@TheRussellStover You’re a good man and may have saved my life. I hope everyone else is safe too!
@@TheRussellStover
BahamasAir has never experienced a crash, and domestic flights don't go more than 10,000-15,000 feet up in most cases, so it's a good fit for worriers. And best of all, every tenth flight is free.
@@notsure9079 This was about 20 years ago. I guess it was a Jr Purchaser and I'm sure there would be 1-2 people checking and another 2+ people on the receiving and installation but we did get the call and it did happen. They didn't call back with a Spec if that helps. I'm sure someone advised them on how to do things.
There are a ton of people in all companies that advocate for busy work because it helps them maintain a job. They attack anyone who wants to automate. Happened to me
The true cost of women in the workforce.
It's understandable why they are against automation since more automation = less work = less workers. But I agree automation is efficient, yet you gotta admit that the more efficient the system is, the less wages are put to workers' pockets - that money falls to bosses', shareholders', and CEO's pockets.
@@TheMegatuz Automation is only a crises under capitalism. In any logical, civilized society, machines that increased productivity while lowering the need for manpower would only create a benefit for anyone who used it. The excess value created by the machines would then be taxed at a high rate to make up for the loss of wage income via welfare programs and education to create new, higher skill jobs.
Instead, in our capitalistic hellscape of a system we get massive layoffs and tens of millions on welfare anyway while business owners rake in the profits for themselves. It would be laughable if it didn't cause so much unnecessary suffering.
@@AsobiMedioyep, that's why everyone started starving to death after the industrial revolution. Humanity peaked when the peasantry was eeking by on subsistence farming.
@@MrVeps1 So true. We all know there were no famines until industry appeared in the 18th Century.
/s
He made a very good choice to take the USB home with him. I bet that USB was an MFA device, essentially meaning that without the USB, you cannot access the Laptop, so those guys couldn't digitally sabotage the device.
Yea but he didn’t say it was encrypted so they could have just booted to usb and done what they wanted, or if the bios was locked, removed the drive, altered on another pc and then do put it back again. These guys were too dumb to even need the MFA.
@@NickSteffen What he is using is MFA for bitlocker
@@NickSteffen The laptop was running a query of the database, it wasn't modifying any of the files, so doing anything to the laptop without logging into the running session wouldn't get you anywhere. And if it is a secure laptop, they would likely be using drive encryption anyways. At most the two idiots would have saved themselves enough time to resign before they could be fired.
@@mitchk7655 Yea, these guys were trying to change the evidence being presented to leadership not its source. The answer was more in response to the posters comment about MFA. It was Obviously a flawed idea, but they were clearly desperate and it might buy time. On the other hand, any data center with an inkling of concern for security should have cameras which would have incriminated them of something worse than incompetence.
I worked in IT for several high dollar (and therefore high security) clients. From Oil to Architecture, there tended to be similar government and military rated security measures put in place to prevent industrial espionage and sabotage. One of those practices includes a physical USB security key that is paired with a security chip on the motherboard and is nearly impossible to circumvent since the lock works by disabling the bios without the key present. Tampering with a locked laptop, regardless of the laptop's job, results in loss of security rating. We had a case where an oil company fired a guy for violating those security measures and he'll never be allowed to work in oil again. I'm actually very surprised that those guys were able to work in aerospace, anywhere, again since that seems like a much more sensitive area than oil.
Those security standards are also why, when dealing with China, anyone going there must use a stripped-out laptop with a fresh hard drive containing only the relevant files. Because any computer brought to China will likely have their data stolen.
Likely?
Since these guys were fired for sexual harassment and not an actual security violation (and yeah, I know Kansas Boy did try to access the database using stolen credentials, but that wasn't actually pursued), they wouldn't have lost their security clearances if they had them. Aerospace is still to this day very much a good-old-boys club and hasn't changed much since this story, which given my experience as a defense contractor sounds like it took place in the mid- to late-90s
Been in China a decade. Not a single person I've met here has had their devices or data maliciously tampered with. As a network security engineer I'm fairly certain that they aren't bothering most people. You know that there are 1.5 to 2 million foreigners in China at any given moment right? They don't have enough people to relegate to such a thankless and pointless task.
@@cheeeeezewizzz They most certainly do. - If you can honestly with a straight face tell me you are certain your data wasn't flashed/copied for later study during your visit, I got a bridge in brooklyn with a timeshare lease for you.
About decade ego in place I worked QA manager insisted on getting whole lot (23 people if I remember right) certified in something very important. Course was conveniently presented in form of ~1100 PP slides. He laughed at offer from printing company to print 23 binders for $3k and said we can do it for “free” on main office printer.
At that time we had contract with printer toner supplier that would charge company based on number of pages and page price if it was black/color and text/graphic (black text was less than a penny and full color graphic was 50-60 cents per page)…
Needles to say few weeks later he had to explain to company president why his department incurred $16.5k printing supplies charge for last month 😂
I use to work for a small print shop... Can confirm... Shit do be expensive! Hahahaha... When we give you a quote for a copy job or print job we're really not making that much on it!
printer ink is the most expensive liquid on earth
there is a running joke of save money print in blood
I actually know where and to whom this happened. I didn’t know the whole story but I used to work for the same aerospace company in a different division. That story got around.
I read it as "that story got aground"
No you didnt
@@tampaxhero5176 r/nothingeverhappens
Did it rhyme with Slockheed Smartin? 😂
@@aaronsouthard8366 And I wonder if the company they got with after sounds a bit like Boing. 😉
700,000 pages printed double-sided on standard print paper will produce a stack of paper about 36 metres tall.
I looked it up on my handy-dandy conversion app, it’s approximately 118 feet. Good grief!
In my rough estimation it would also be about 3-4 metric tons.
@@RoonMian that's a strong ass desk
Thanks for the metric comparison :D
Isn't printer paper .1 mm thick?
Just for reference a standard pallet of 8.5×11 copy paper is 40 cases and 200K sheets per pallet so that was 3.5 pallets of paper
Tell me what a pallet is?
@@michaelgriffith5747 a pallet,a skid. It's basically that wooden or plastic platform you see in warehouses with merchandise or items on it moved around by a forklift
For further reference a ream of paper is 500 sheets. That being an individual wrapped package of printer paper.
In today's rates, at $1700 per skid for 11x17 for standard 20lb paper weight. So it could be almost $6k in paper, and an estimated $10k+ in toner (really hard to estimate this, but our commercial Canon printer is really efficient in toner and would run $10k of it). Not including wear and tear on the machines, we are also charged a 'click charge, per impression. I'm guessing their cost in shop was about $20k once it was all done and added up.
I was once tasked to write a reporting application, to print out a report containing the organization's full database. That was in the early 1990s, so they considered reports on paper still more trustworthy than anything on a computer screen. I did an estimate about the amount of paper needed (several rooms full) and asked them if they still wanted the report generator. Yes, they absolutely needed it. Printouts every month.
The application came with a warning that printing should only be done in the basement of the office building. Because the weight of the paper would exceed the rated load bearing capacity of the floors, and the building would be in danger of collapsing. They rethought the idea and the application was retired before it was even used once.
I was told a story of a massive accidental print job when I was in the military as part of a ‘ make sure your head isn’t up your A ' object lesson back in the days of dot matrix track feed printers that took about 4 or 5 minutes to print a whole page.
Someone needed to print out about 20 pages from a manual for Monday so they set it up on Friday well instead of the 20 pages they accidentally had it print the whole manual with pictures each picture page being printed out on multiple pages so come Monday morning ( office was closed over the weekend as there as no reserve drill ) to a dead printer $2000 plus in the 80s more than 2000 wasted sheets of track paper ( no idea the cost but lots ) and almost half the needed pages missing , the printer died before it got to them , your tax dollars at work.
A friend in the military complained that back when everything was paper, they would get one copy of a program manual for the office, and everyone was happy. Then they went "paperless" and got a CD instead. So now, he had to print out 6 copies of this manual, single sided (the old copies were double sided), one for each of the supervisors. So instead of 200 sheets of paper, there were now 2400. /sigh
I remember printing out postscript documents but the printer not reading and converting them correctly thinking they were plain text so you get 1 line of print per page...printing till the ream in the drawer was gone. All those wasted pages with about 10 characters on each page...
I worked for a company who had to submit reports to the EPA. They used to submit about 1½ semitrucks full of paper for each product/chemical. When the EPA allowed electronic submissions on CD-ROM, it only took a couple of binders filled with 6 discs per page. However, they still generated the paper reports, then fed them through a high speed scanner that I had to support and buy the server disk storage to hold the images. We almost maxed out how many disks we could fit on the server before they were done. Luckily, the computer started to manufacture disks double the size we started with. But this was the top priority IT project at the time, so budget was not an issue. I'm sure 1½ semis would have been cheaper.
All that paper usage, at the behest of the Environmental Protection Agency. Bit ironic, innit?
So your company had text reports that they scanned then stored as images????
And nobody ever read a page of them … just there in case someone needed to cover their backside with “but I already told you that, didn’t you read report”
Would it be a good guess that this "Major Airplane Manufacturer" is Boeing
I'm gonna say otherwise. French-Canadian lands me square on Bombardier. Everyone forgets about them!
I wonder if the “spread eagled girl on the maple leaf” is stamped somewhere on a 737 max door plug.
@@petersabolewsky4983 I would say on the PCB of the mcas controller board
@@IIGrayfoxII 😂
When I was a kid my dad used to bring home the used pages of print (one sided) so we had all the drawing paper we could ever want to draw on. Since they were connected (fan fold paper), we could also make long signs or roads for toy cars.
We also made a lot of paper airplanes - good times 😊
I do this now for my kid. Although I may have been surprised one day when she showed me a drawing and I noticed that the other side might or might not have had company sensitive information on in 😬😂
I had the green and white striped programming paper, fanfold the same way, from my Dad's office. It was a lot of fun to draw on!
As an adult, I have had fun reading the old code bits on the back, LOL.
And that was how my Hot Wheels car came to drive on a top secret road.
And that kids, is how 737Max issues started...
This an hilarious example of how dysfunctional large corporations/ government is.
18:43 I think it's either pheasant under glass, or smoked Turkey stuffed with onions, garlic, potatoes and carrots.
Reminds me of a story where her boss wanted to print the internet.
another i heard about, a doctor wanted a video file printed out
"working for a major airplane manufacturer..."
Please tell me they didn't work on the 737 Max...
I wouldn't be surprised if they were. This reaks of of these idiots.
I doubt it, since at the very beginning of the story they reference "the 'lazy B' down the road" presumably referring to Boeing.
@@siukong They probably work for Spirit Aero Systems then.
@@siukong They probably work for Boeing now.
This comment aged well
700K pages of 8.5X11 = around 4 pallets or 140 cases of paper and would weigh in at approximately 7000+ lbs
I worked at a company that had a drawing of what looked like a martini glass tipping over and spilling in the lower right corner of their engineering drawings. The quality of their engineering was likely influenced by having had too many of those.
In my defence I wasn't working at a company and the glass could be viewed as a logo of the project so it wasn't me.
Kansas Boy really had his head up his butt (arrogance, entitlement, and ignorance make bad bedfellows).
Edit: add Duchee to that
This guy was arrogant and elitist, too, judging by his disgust for printing and obsession for digitization.
@@TurtleShroom3 Nope. It's an established process which improves efficiency. The new comer not following that is the one who is arrogant.
@@mcha226
Both parties were arrogant but one was elitist. Screw mass digitization.
Daaamnn OP has a degree in yapology. Spends wayy too much time on irrelevant details, taking way too long to get to the MC and its' aftermath. Maybe I'll finish the next one lmao
Yeah. I'm on the Kansas guys side here.
One time my mom texted me a grocery list and it said on it "dont forget your fathers day card for your dad, 18 dz eggs, soda we are having a party tomorrow so get the big eggs" so I came home with 18 dozen eggs and she meant the 18 pack of eggs not the happiest camper when I got home
She REALLY should've checked to make sure what she was texting was correct.
That's on her. 18 is not a dozen. Even a bakers dozen is only 13. I would have done the same thing. Pack, an 18pk. Learning proper grammar and nomenclature is important.
Stu that's a gross
@@SejhaIsHere A gross is 144. Or a dozen dozens. 12 x 12 = 144, a gross.
Be careful when you give shopping instructions to a programmer.
My wife sent me to the store and told me to get a gallon of milk. Then she said, if they have eggs, get a dozen. I came home with 12 gallons of milk and I don't know why she's so upset.
For reference, 700,000 sheets of paper is more than 10!
It is also about 7.5 double chests full of shulker boxes full of paper.
Oh wait, theyre not all empty, so they have nbt data. That means they would fill up 480 double chests full of shulker boxes.
Why does it feel Like this story took place in both the 90s and 2000s?
Probably because of the debate "paper vs virtual". Early 2000s is my guess.
Because it's fake
Prolly Boeing lol. I wouldn’t be surprised given their track record.
23:05, This was a Smart Move by Kansas Boy... Better to quit then have it noted on your Perminent File Fired for Sexual Harassment.
Dont mind me, just feeding the algorithm!
The damn algorithm is always hungry! Dropped off some 🍪 🍪 cookies 🍪 🍪 to feed it a little snack.
These stories would be useful as stock tips (stocks to sell or short) if the names of the companies were mentioned.
Not when these stories are from previous decades.
@@Vincent_Beers Oh.
I just looked up a professional copier/printer, I chose the Xerox AltaLink C8155. It is capable of up to 55 PPM. If it ran non-stop, one would take a bit over 212 hours. 700,000 pages is 1,400 reams. A typical case is 10 reams, so 140 cases of paper. I’m sure you can buy cheaper in lots this side but at Costco, a case is around $53. That would be well over $7000 just for paper, not counting toner and the wear & tear of the fuser and other expendables.
Stuck around 'til ~7 minutes. He should have just quit, and taken everyone with him he could have. He's a coward.
Malachi lost me when he started going on about the dudes looks. Says he's high up but sounds like a basic gossipy cashier
I can see why Canada hates OP. Also the golf thing was COMPLETELY WORTHLESS TO THE STORY.
Good morning Rob
Good morning everyone 😊😊
Good morning and aloha from Maui, Lewis and Rob!
The USN saved MILLIONS of dollars when they let the contract(s) for the Ford class air craft carriers due to not having to put TONS of plans in a TRUCK and ship them to D.C. When they let the contract for the Vinson 1980 the shipyard GAVE a complimentary pickup truck to haul the 3/4 of a ton of paper for the approval process
I thought I was going to watch 30 seconds of this and watched the entire thing 😂
It sounds like the dish was fried chicken with a side of poutine.
What a long and drawn out story. Really had to pad some drama in there.
19:05 one a month with a 16+ password? I work for the government and we don’t even have that many requirements. That’s an insane amount of change and it will only serve to make people forget their passwords
For root access to a company critical database? Not even that bad.
My place it's every 3 months, but it's not that clever. All everyone does is and another sequential number to their current password then when they hit 9 do the numbers backwards 😂
All I ever do is make a passphrase along "correct horse battery staple" lines, then strip out the spaces between words and make it l33t. Since I do the l33t conversion by a set of rules, all I have to remember is the passphrase.
I worked for the government. We had many systems and each had its own password requirements and change frequencies. No keeping a list. I put mine on a password protected Excellent spreadsheet because that was the best I could come up with.
@MarkWerderitsch-k9v Let me guess, you forgot the password for the spreadsheet and realized you needed to keep that password somewhere other than the spreadsheet.
Maliciois compliance just gets my day going 🤣
Sounds exactly like the aerospace place I worked for that released half their employees to save money during covid and now doesnt have a workforce to start back up nor train the new hires coming in
Did they get hired by boeing? It would explain some of these plane issues 😂
How did this story came from 700,000 pages of printed documents to vectors?
They had to print all the pages, and found that in printing all the pages, there were full page printouts of even the smallest vector files.
@@KarmaStoriesPodcast ohhh so that's the karma? I thought they would get into trouble from the 700,000 pages of print alone. I kinda got lost when vectors are mentioned, I thought Im on a second story already lol
This was too long and not worth it
I bet the robot was Starscream.
I thought that as well.
Same here. Classic G1 Transformers
I think since they mentioned Canadian and French, you should pronounce it do-shay
"It's pronounced 'Doo-mas'. {Classic TV Commercial}
Malicious compliance turned Nuclear Destruction.😂😂😂😂😂
I think I know where this happened.
Don't mess with someone smarter than you.
Or, all bosses to be chosen from people with proven ability.
Honestly been enjoying your content more than rSlash (nothing against him, I just like your voice more).
Woohoo! rSlash was my inspiration to get started 2 years ago!
Well, I'm more fan of Rslash. Still like your video's tho!
I love any channel that doesn't use a (bot?) to read the stories for them tbh
Everyone involved in this story is annoying, not just the "antagonists."
Happy Fri-yay! Thanks for more great MC, Rob.
I have no idea what really happened in this story.
Sincerely doubt the facts of the story. 700k sheets of paper would not fit in a cubicle near that size, except possibly if it was the only thing in their (no desk or chair). If it was from the manufacturer of the paper (in boxes of 5k paper), it would still be hard to do. This doesn't include the weight of the paper. That much paper likely weighs around 7,000 pounds.
So at least that part of the story is outright lie.
700k pages is about 130 hours of printing btw. That is with the good printers. It gets 33% slower for your average business printer.
I wanna see duchees makers mark so bad lol!!!! That moment in the meeting was epic!!
700,000 A4 pages is like
781 copies of Harry potter and the order of the phoenix books.
Good morning everyone out there and have a great weekend 👍😃🤗😎
You too!!
Yea make that your printed copy and of course one for each of your subscribers 😉😁
Bro sounds like the boss from smiling friends
Just for context. That's about 140 standard boxes of paper. Each ream is 500, each box contains 10 reams, that's 5000 per box
11:11 As an engineer that's kind of funny ngl
Still love the chair story a few days ago lol and this one hope this comment doesn't get deleted bye bye.
I fell asleep with this one.
Wonderful! That means it played all the way through.. right?... right? 🤣
@@KarmaStoriesPodcast it sure did play all of it. Nevertheless, I thought I was dreaming of it instead. 😆
@KarmaStoriesPodcast sounds you care about the algo more than content.
It seems Duchee is a good enough engineer, that's why the president let him had his way for so long, and that's why he could landed another employment soon after he got fired. But he is indeed a totally awful person to work with.
Duchee is not a good engineer, thats not the type of workhabbit an effective worker develops.
@@F14thunderhawk You confused capability with personality.
oh, i really loved that silly gag you added at the end!
By the sounds of it, they went to go work for Boeing
Jesus Christ, this took 5 minutes to read on Reddit.
They probably went working for Boing. 😂
They are probably glad they got out of the industry with the Adobe news about them scanning all files with both automation and human reviewers.
Sounds like it is not easy for them to switch: and they are likely under NDAs.
this text to speech sounds kinda weird
Good morning everyone
Aloha from Maui on this gorgeous early morning!
@KarmaStoriesPodcast Where's the link to the original post? I'd love to go over and upvote them.
23:06 Oh No they started working at Boeing! This explains a lot!
So I guess they work for Boeing now.
have a feeling these boys work now for Boeing😂
Given the age of this video, knowing these guys are now working for a major airplane manufacturer, and a certain big player has planes fall apart, midflight, and other issues.....
Legit reason to be afraid to fly
Didn't get a notification today so I am late, very late. I'm snuggled up in bed and now have a KCC video to listen to as I drift off.
Read the title--Those poor trees!!!😂
3 years ago. And now Boeing is failing. I wonder why.
/gren - itch/ ...
Green witch
Hey, where can i find the link to the original post?
so thats why Boeing is so doing so bad now. They probably moved there
People from Kansas don't have a southern draw. I call bullshit.
He specifically said he was faking one.
I bet they work for Boeing now. Might explain a lot.
Why do i feel like this is about Boeing.
This is why I love hard copy reviews. It stops document bloat like this from happening in the first place.
OK, the fact that he stopped playing Red Dead 2 because of an accident says way too much.
Isn't this the "Fun Fact" guy? I usually speed up these Reddit stories x2, but listened to this one at normal speed.
Imagine this happened at lockheed martin and this was the cause for the f35's delay
Nah I'm sure this is Boeing with the 737 Max.
LM would never have those two idiots on the staff and nowhere near the skunk works.
@@VTX00128 I said that back then as a joke but seeing everything happening and the whistleblowers I’m sure it’s boring😂
@@mase8832 Yeah I'm not even in the same field of work but even I can see that stupidity every where with the easy PDF and Excel sheet I only have to do the triplicate carbon paper way on certain jobs for DOT & DOD records and I glad haven't had any work to do them. Tho I'm working off my crappy company phone instead of the require tablet computer. Cost cutting my ass! I was a IT guy who knows what is needed for the job but nooo! big boss has to have his Porsche.
Not actually proofreading critical documents with engineering specifications, what could go wrong? Wonder why counterfeit parts are being found on planes and they're falling out of the sky. This is who can be replaced by AI and make a improvement.
Good morning
Morning!
@@KarmaStoriesPodcast Aloha from Maui! Love your voice!
That was amazing!
Pity about the ending though.
It is impossible to review engineering work packages via PDF on the computer. Reviews are constantly flipping back and forth with dozens of post-its. One hour in the office is about 15 hours in construction, so make sure the engineering is correct. Responsible Engineers will also keep their marked up and sealed documents.
2:43 hey now! Not all of us 80s children are like that
I guess Kansas Boy and Douchee went to work for Boeing, huh? :D
Did they by any chance get a job in Boeing afterwards?
would love to see pictures of the hundreds of thousands of pages