Number 10 is so real. The way their fans are always excusing their humour with "have you guys never had friends??" Yeah but my friends don't fat shame and shame me for my skin colour?? It's so odd. Also all your fifty fifty opinions are so on point!
@@Jay-sl1pf I wouldn't be the most familiar with then anymore but from what I've seen Haechan tends to often be the victim. Yuta made very questionable remarks about his weight recently. I heard NCT Dream boys are constantly fat shaming and colour shaming him (mainly Jeno and Jisung) it seems.
But every friendship is different. I bet these kpop idols prefer their members over their fans anyways. It is also a cultural difference, jokes like that is common to make in Korea. We have to remember they grew up in that culture and that influences them.
@vixxexo6855 That doesn't make it okay. Haechan clearly looked uncomfortable. It's not even about the members, if that's their friendship so be it but imagine the impact on their fans. It's not nice (as a plus sized person) to hear idols make such jokes, their words have impact as public figure. Also POC fans don't want to hear colourist jokes from their faves. Whatever they do in their free time is their business but they are publi figures and need to watch what they say publicly.
Calling Day6 overrated is wild XD If we talk about a music perspective I can get your point but apart from that? They're not that much talked in the international sphere anymore, despite they've come back from their military hiatus and being one of the most well known k-Bands from the 3rd generation along with The Rose.
@@mymumoverwaterstheflowersd8071 It was a good album and great return, they surely proved that they can work perfectly without Jae. It's just...sad that it didn't get talked about in the international community this much. It was their first album after the military and their first work as four, just these two factors should have been enough to get some attention. If I should rank it, it would probably be a good candidate for one of the best albums of the year along with Onewe's album and LUCY's. EDIT: I forgot to add XDH's album too. Loved it
Literally how can Day6 be overrated when no one talks about them anymore, and even on their peak, they weren't that successful, it's more of a "i don't see the hype" then "they're overrated". You can't call a group overrated when their latest cb was barely talked
while I do agree that day6 being underrated is a bit questionable to me (sure you can say they are overrated in their prime of 2019 - 2021 but definitely not now after all that happened) from what I know about kbands, I don't think there are any kbands that are like famous per say either haha
Yeah I was confused about that too. I haven't heard anyone talk about Day6 in a video for.. so long and the first time I hear someone utter their group name it's while calling them OVERRATED? crazy
Overall I'd agree that they're not overrated, especially given their company, the lack of "buzz" on their last comeback, and how long they've been in the industry, but they are one of the most talked about and known k-band, so for someone who wants to get more into k-bands/ listens to k-bands they will overwhelmingly hear more about them in that space.
Here's some of mine 1. Nugu boy groups have been releasing some of the best music this year 2. Everglow could've been so big if it wasn't for Yuehua sabotaging them
@@WonyOnDaZa yuehua is the company everglow is under and they sabotaged them because they were very popular but throughout 2022 everglow went radio silent mainly because yuehua didn't need them anymore since they debuted Tempest that's why everglows comebacks don't do so well
@@writingdork3951 innit. I’m ‘okay’ with stanning a group with a minor in it as I am a minor myself and is around the usual age of minors who debut. BUT 13?? that’s absurd, and gross. Girl have probably barely touched on algebra and has a career
One other thing I wanted to note was that colorist humor among SM idols is prevalent across the whole company. I never forgot the burial of Chen’s Kunta Kinte joke, nor the self-deprecating/in-group colorist remarks made by SNSD, SHINee, GOT the beat, the numerous offenses by SuJu, etc. It seems to be part of the SM idol culture. Given that SM has been notorious for being the most obsessed with ideal visuals out of the big three since they’ve existed, it’s disappointing but not surprising.
Regarding Girls Generation calling Yuri a black pearl is a compliment. Yuri is often praised for her visuals and is often said to be in the visual line along with Yoona, Seohyun and Taeyeon.
idk if this is controversial, but there’s just no excuse for colorism atp. like i get it’s a “beauty standard”, but it’s just so unfathomable that a society could normalize making fun of people for the color of their skin regardless of the context.
sometimes 67 is right but this latest scandal has SO MUCH genuine misinfo going around. people taking a random video of a random person on a scooter and saying it was suga, saying his alcohol level was 0.227% with no source to back it up, and that whole suga challenge seemingly being started by “armys” only for it to be started by antis. i know armys SUCK but this situation was handled and received so horribly i couldn’t believe it. 1000x worse than it needed to be.
i totally agree the suga challenge was started by trolls trying to ruin army' reputation even more. but im rly confused.... its been a while so i cant remember details but i thought it was reported that the police found him on the ground, checked surrounding cctv cameras and released the footage of him. and they also took his BAC level and released that in the press release right?? was that information not released by police?
Idk fast foward was really good. I like it is a really good bside on the skz album. I agree chuus solo music is meh. I think the fifty fifty situation is more nuanced than yall make it out to be and forget that these are people with dreams and will do anything to get there. The Itzy Born to Be album is so good all the songs are bops. Ok I'm done responding to these.
2:50 in Korea, it's really common to visit the hospital for non serious/ urgent health problems. you can get treated for the flu in the hospital there. so idols saying they went to the hospital isn't as big of a deal as it seams
For the "korean Beyoncé" one i agree there is not right now. Even if artist are incomparable i would say in terms of music and vocals the closest korean artist to Beyoncé was Ailee.
We need more duo/trio subunits in kpop, with Chobom and Irene and Seulgi's subunit needing a comback. I'd love for their to be a co-ed project groups like Triple H but with idols from different companies but unfortunately entitled fans will make that impossible for now.
About 35, I am not going to deny that studio j needs to work on their artists promotions, but xdh has been selling out concerts lately and getting more well known in Korea as well (they recently charted with Save Me) I don't expect them to reach the heights of popularity of groups like Stray Kids because of the type of music they do, but they aren't a lost cause either
The only responses I wanna point out is 1. idk about "free Keena" when she decided that staying was her best option over being "free" from her company. and 2. big facts about Huta/Minhyuk. He's the only idol that nearly has me thirsting on main. As someone who is primarily aroace, that's saying something.
@@embertrynka257 if that’s the case, choosing to become a trainee at a nugu company is the worst possible strategy. It’s like putting your life savings into NFTs. She’d have better luck bringing home a paycheck delivering food or working as a barista.
Attrakt isn't a bad company. The Fifty Fifty members simply got manipulated and got greedy. That's why she stayed, there's nothing wrong with the company.
@@milli3377 newsflash babe: no company is a good company. the concept doesn’t exist. and this is coming from a business major. companies care about profit only. and the girls being “greedy” is a wild take????
13 is so true. Chk chk boom as a title track is amazing but the rest of the album kind of lowkey missed for me? I mean, i love songs like mountains (stream it) but i dont see myself going back by will towards it. Its a really good album, but skz has done better before. Stays dont kill me 🥹
I guess it's just very different for eveyone, ATE is one of my favourite albums from them! The only songs I don't listen to are I like it and Runners haha
Hey, different strokes for different folks! Personally, I think this was a really strong addition to their catalog. It’s funny tho, I love Chk Chk Boom but I find myself coming back for I Like it, Twilight and Runners! It’s fun to see how different people’s tastes can be.
Personally I found it rlly good! I liked it a lot more than the rockstar album! I do like rockstar tho! But some songs like Mountains and twilight I loved!
As a stay, I really agree 😭😭 Something just isn't adding up for me. The only b-sides I really love are I like it and runners. I still think stray kids is really cute because it's a fandom song but the rest of the album didn't click for me.
I get you chose titles and one b side that all sound different but for me personally I love that they have a theme going on. Instruments Get a Guitar, Talk Saxy, Boom Boom Bass. Personally I like that they have a concept and stick to it. I do hope in the future they do something that’s unexpected of them to release. Another love 119, not in the sense that I want it to sound like that, but in the sense that it takes me by surprise and I love it. All of their other title tracks to me have made me feel like, yeah this sounds like something they’d release, it’s on brand for them.
@@IuvIies i disagree, they all give me such different feelings and i actually dislike bbb, but LOVE talk saxy... yk. yeah i agree that the appear they same on paper, but sound very different to me.
Im not too sure about the Riize comparison of ‘same music’ I would say that’s valid with Boom Boom Bass and Get a Guitar but I wouldn’t say it for any of their other songs Also, SHINee remains my favorite 2nd gen favorites
11:40 It’s so confusing how some people say that they want groups to do a girlcrush/badass ish type concept and then when a group tries to or does it people say that it’s outdated
I love opinion #93. The trio sub units, especially DoJaeJung, put out excellent music. Even if the DJJ album was too short, I needed more! And BSS was fun and infectious. I hope they get a chance to do at least one comeback.
12:16 imo the term dozen is 100% overused. People will call someone a dozen if they mess up a tiny bit while dancing a dozen is someone who can’t sing rap dance and doesn’t have stage presence meaning that more than half of the idols who get called dozens aren’t actually dozens.
frrr dozen shouldve just stayed as the title for lucas where it originated (because its actually accurate sorry not sorry)😭 like u said whyyyy are we calling talented idols dozens just because they messed up one time
4:10 It always annoys me when people say stuff like that because it just shows they don't read. Rosie signed *management* contract with TBL. This means they will handle her activities in South Korea... and it's not even an exclusive contract! People need to chill about this
101. People should be able to listen to music from the groups they like without having to get involved with any scandals/controversies etc. people should be free to enjoy listening to kpop music and that’s it, should they want to. If you want to get more involved with the members and the company, then go ahead. But telling people they need to acknowledge ‘controversies’ and ‘questionable humour’ in order to support their favourite groups is just silly
i will never will understand your sentiment of how lucy are so much different and better than other kbands just because they have a violinist🤔 also to call day6 overrated is WILD
Hongjoong is probably the best male artist that chungha has ever collaborated with considering the fact that male features in her other works often downgrade songs that otherwise would've been so much better with just her singing imo.This might be due to the fact that this collabortion clearly considered both Chungha and Hoonjoong's identity as music artists, with Eenie Meenie's soundscape feeling very much on brand with Ateez's music and the choreography referencing Ateez's title tracks'. Despite it being different from Chungha's previous works' it still feels on brand with her since she either has experimental songs that showcase her playful, charismatic side or her elegant, edgy side through her dance. I hope that chungha collaborates with more female artists in the future like her recent acoustic 2000s inspired song with thuy that was released a few days ago.
26. My jaw visibly dropped since out of all members rose seemed the one to genuinely love & enjoy & have the want to create new music. Knowing blacklabel’s history, im so sad we’re going to see such a waste of her potential :/ because wtf is somis new song
did you people read?? Rosie signed management contract with TBL. This means they will handle her activities in South Korea... and it's not even an exclusive contract, she will most probably make her own music and she's smart she knows she has to promote her songs better than TBL OR YG
MHJ is the definition of “heartbreaking: worst person you know just made a great point” because fuck HYBE but also the way NJ interacts with her and vice versa is so upsetting, there is no world in which that’s an appropriate work relationship for a woman to have with girls half her age
67. Mind you multiple kmedia channels apologized for spreading misinformation claiming that random Korean man zooming down the road was yoongi. I think it really upsets kpop stans that armys aren’t willing to believe everything koreaboo, allkpop, or pann throw at bts. So yes, korean new sites spreading misinformation and being called out on and apologizing is proof enough.
@@GonBon1 no it wasn’t, the video uploaded during the entire yoongi situation. If you can’t match up the dates and get it right you don’t need to be in my comments ty.
10:17 then boycott almost every other kpop company because they do the same thing or even worse. Throwing out sweets, overworking their idols, not protecting them, forcing them to go on diets. SM and JYPE especially are notorious for this.
You really shouldn't apologize for taking the time to rest and prepare an upload. You manage your time however you like, you don't have to explain yourself. And this sort of preface at the start of the video makes it age badly in my opinion
My heart did break a little hearing Day6 is overrated. I never see many people mention them even in their prime. Is it the music? The members? JYP being god awful with promoting them?
I think they just mean that day6 are overrated in comparison with other kbands because they mentioned how lucy is the best kband. I think overrated isn't the correct term to use. Maybe like they don't understand why other people like them so much.
I think that it's so funny how kpoppies will stan every company that has done worse than Attrakt and go onto boycott a nugu company that honestly hasn't really done anything wrong except hiring "the givers" to manage fifty fifty and not actually keeping an eye on them while the givers CEO was manipulating them into believing that they were getting the shorter end of the stick when the Ceo forged the members signatures to get the song writing credits of cupid.
done something similar to this if not worse so it would be hypocritical to stand any other group from another company and then say you won't stand the new 50/50 but they've all done similar things to this and in some situations worselike no one wants to talk about how 2 idols from SM have died
Number 72. I think Girls on Top and SuperM should either come back with their original members or not come back at all. A huge part of their groups popularity is because of the line up. Having Girls Generation, Red Velvet, and aespa members in one group is INSANE, and no other members would be able to fit their spots, same thing with SuperM, having Taemin, Exo, and NCT members. Plus, lets be fr, at least 70% of SuperM fans are waiting for their comeback because of Lucas.
1- I love ateezs title tracks 𝘣𝘶𝘵 imagine a song like dune (super underrated) / this world / we know as a title track. That would be amazing and a nice change of sound that we usually hear from bg. 2- saying day6 is overrated is WILD it feels like ever since jae left half of the fandom left with him 3- kpop stans will do anything to stir up drama, and it's getting ridiculous
(sorry for how long this is lol) ur so right about the ateez take, ive said this before and ill say it again but their title tracks are starting to get pretty repetitive. DONT GET ME WRONG im a huge atiny and i love bouncy, crazy form, and work butttt after they got popular from bouncy theyve been way less experimental with their title tracks. like they used to be known as a group that wasnt afraid to try different concepts but ever since KQ found a sound that stuck its the only music they release now. im glad theyre finally getting the recognition theyve always deserved but i still miss their older music from time to time. like i would do ANYTHING for them to release songs similar to deja vu or eternal sunshine, i miss both of those concepts so much although theyre like the exact opposite LMAO😭🙏
@kalkxx true!! As u said ever since bouncy the title tracks have been sounding the same. I mean, the biggest reason why most popular groups are gg, is because their individuality. Gg makes a style to a concept, make it their own sound. While bgs take different concepts BUT have the same style, the same sound. It's really sad to see ateez fallow other groups (what's popular) the biggest reason I got into them was cuz how different their music is to what I was used to. ( thing I'd like to add on. I wish they would play with the members voices. Have wooyoung doing the high notes instead of jongho. Have yeosang actually SING INSTEAD OF TALKING PLDD)
@kalkxx and omg finally some who agrees with me 😭 I've said this many times, and each time, I was either called a hater or a gatekeeper who doesn't want to see ateez succeed LMAO
@@o_Dexter_o yessss exactly we all know that jongho is undoubtedly one of the best vocalists in fourth gen, so why not showcase other members talent from time to time??!! wooyoung and yeosang are both so talented and their voices are so unique but KQ constantly wastes their abilities😞 anyways im glad you agree with me too, ive also been called a hater because of this opinion when im literally such a big fan of ateez lollll idk why kpop fans cant handle any constructive criticism when it comes to their fav groups
@kalkxx I swear kpop fans are getting dumber and dumber with each gen. I mean, have you seen what they've done with seunghan (I think that's his name😭) and I thought kpop got better with handling dating rumors
for me I think the fifi situation is so nuanced that at this point, I'm so undecided for where i should stand. I think the main problems I see is there's a lot of info with no validity from any of the parties involved (yet) as well as the fact that the fandom + outside parties are soooo divided that its ultimately become a bit scary to take it all in as you will haha. My apologies if that last part sounds so whiny and sensitive haha I think I'll keep on supporting 3jeong in their journey to debut as those members are the ones that made adore them in the first place (saena was my bias at the time + I adore both sio and aran's voices always)
And I think it’s also important to note that there is a lot of misinformation about the abuse. The abuse happened under the care of the management team Attrakt hired, The Givers. That is if you choose to believe what was shown in courts along with Keena’s testimony. At the moment, they have the most solid and strong case. However, the og girls are still victims, as this abuse was also with manipulation and gaslighting from The Givers. I’m happy to see the girls getting a second chance though. All three are very talented. And Attrakt is at fault for neglecting to keep a tabs on their talent. They unknowingly made an environment where all this abuse could happen under their noses without realizing it. For instance, they had no idea Aran needed surgery bc texts shown in court shows that The Givers withheld that information from Attrakt. I think this is the perfect example of how Attrakt wasn’t connected to the situation enough and The Givers abuse was able to take hold.
Here's mine: 1. Armageddon was better than Supernova 2. While I think they're kpop stans who are very dumb I blv most of them aren't & know exactly what they're doing especially on Reddit & some in Twitter ( especially the part you said they're accounts that are being paid ,Yes ) think abt this - Also I blv it's not kpop alone I also think some western accounts are paid too to promote on twt, I also don't hv proof 3. Rpwp by Rm is the best k album in 2024 & fe304 is the best album by a grp this yr ( I think the latter is not that unpopular) so far 4. Pple hv been talking abt kpop decline, music wise ,sales , I want this to continue until this companies decide to make good music ,even if they'll go to their super niche era or rock bottom
7:19 I’m going to support them if I like their music. I commented this before but I dont think that attraktiv is much worse than any other Kpop companies.
@@trinichan5103 exactly, they had a successful europe tour last year (that I was lucky to attend and meet them), are playing concerts regularly in Korea, have now had a couple shows in LA and I wouldn't call double digit million streams on some of their songs and 750k monthly listeners a lost cause either Rock is just a more niche sound in the kpop sphere, but they're doing very well within that (+ jooyeon is becoming a well liked variety show guest)
@@ncteumaja Agree, they had to add a new date for the concerts in the USA because they sold out their concerts, that's definitively not a sign of being a lost cause (they are becoming more wellknow in Korea as well)
Baby monster has like like 100-150m + TH-cam ad views and bot likes of u check the stays for their MVs. They didn’t buy as many for Forever but it’s for sure YG just wants to gaslight ppl into feeling like baby monster are more popular than they are
I think a good part of their views on ytb is because of ads but not that much imo. Plus they got impressive streams on Spotify and I don't think YG buy them. Last time I checked they had 9 millions monthly listeners on Spotify so I think they have a dedicated strong fanbase but they are not that popular for the general public.
@@nylehjohnson4560 they in fact did buy that many ads/bot likes and viewers, cause the mv gets significantly more views one week and super low on others. It means that week they were paying for more bc they weren't happy with the result. Same for likes. On Spotify it's probably mostly playlisting/ payola bc it doesn't sound like ppl are rlly tuning into their songs. Maybe most of them who do are blinks who like the YG formula and YG type songs who are thirsty for a bp comeback but have no choice but go to bbm. But bbm arguably has even worse music than that imo.
@@Poop-pd9tg I kinda disagree. sheesh stayed in ytb top 100 for 3 months. It means it gets enough views to stay in the top for that long. YG is known for ads but payola on Spotify I never heard of it. The last time I checked the girls have 9 millions monthly listeners on Spotify so I don't think it's payola for Spotify. It's true they are not that popular if we talk about the general public but they have a strong dedicated fanbase.
Why can’t HYBE monopolize the kpop industry? If SM could? It is definitely time for something, or some things, to end though, and it, or they, will. But it is unlikely to be HYBE. Cheer up though! Tacky music and groups will always be produced for as long as people like you continue to consume them.
opinion 22 is so real. No one with a healthy mind would have chosen an abusive company when you know they are abusive. All they want is fame and money and it shows.
17 imagine being on fifty fifty's side💀(btw educate yourself at least a little bit, the fact that you think attrakt mistreated them is embarrasing, the ones who are to blame are the givers) 55 there is no big 4 82 ten 97 okay you ate that one
I think I wanna rec some bands in here. I'm sure that these bands aren't nugu by any chance, but I really wanted to shout them out in case anyone wants to check out their music The rose, n.flying, onewe, hoppilla (my apologies for the incorrect spelling), iz, lucy, rolling quartz, qwer, ftisland, xdinary heroes
I listen to all of them, they're all good recommendations :D Hoppipolla were one of my ultimate groups but sadly they're in the longest hiatus ever along with IZ :')
I'll add Snake Chicken Soup, Wetter (although I think it's disbanded as the vocalist is now on SCS. Still top notch music.), Surl, W24, WOOZE, Crying Nut, Dickpunks and RUMKICKS
@@BrandNewDeath Choi Wonbin (Wetter and SCS's singer) is a wonderful artist, he even released a solo project right now. A true rockstar. I hope Wetter will come back soon somehow tho. After seeing We Are The Night coming back from their long hiatus only because one of their songs, Tiramisu Cake, charted again in Korea, everything is possible XD I didn't know about RUMKICKS, I'll give them a listen :D
4:34 with madein, I can see themselves switching their sound over, which to me is sooooo unfortunate cuz i absolutely adore their current music soundscape that limelight previously came out with (to me their soundscape is sparkly, tropical and more go with the flow). It seems like from the teasers and images alone, they may go for something that sounds a lot like fearless by le serrafim which is still gud but yk doesn't scream original to me haha
#49/#50 i have an opinion on how the marketing of 4th and 5th gen groups (including but not limited to age range + concepts), an influx of solo stan's in 3rd gen, bg stans vs gg stans, armies, and the commercialization of kpop as a whole (ex. having 7 unnecessary album versions) has all contributed to this shift towards people becoming casual fans but i dont have the words to articulate it yet
I was gagged by 90. Visible beef between groups is absolutely not what I want. I want idols to either like each other openly, or dislike each other behind closed doors. We don't need that fuel for the fanwars.
@idrils he's saying that people will run to call it misinformation/fake news BEFORE any real evidence comes out. obviously if it turns out to be misinformation AFTER the facts come out then it is in fact misinformation but it's weird that people will assume an accusation is fake or real before any official statements from trusted sources are made.
@@doopmoop 1) if it looks fake i call it fake 2) guilty before being proven guilty? 3) with the history of slander against bts, i feel justified being skeptical of grandiose accusations Any fandom is a spectrum containing the shrill and the disengaged. I dont endorsed the shrillest but i do find the latest events justify the overall scale leaning towards a distrust of media scandals
@@doopmoopthe same thing applies when y’all deem someone “guilty” with no proof and misinformation. It goes both ways if you’re gonna call it out. If armys can’t say it’s misinformation without proof than yall can’t say “that’s him” in a video posted by koreaboo and you can barely see what’s going on in a blurry video. Be fr.
Here's mine: 1. Soyeon is the best performer in 4th gen. No one has her stage presence and charisma 2. I want more subunits and collabs between 4th/5th gen male/female idols 3. Izna's lineup is good but it could have been better. It's definitely better than Illit and they were all chosen by the public 4. I want Itzy to have a Spicy Aespa/Brat type of sound. I think it would fit them so well, with some iconic dance break somewhere 5. It's okay if you don't like an idol or get weird vibes from them even if they didn't have a scandal (as long as you don't hate them). It's like when your friend introduces you to someone and you don't like them 6. I love NMIXX members, they're so funny and talented, but I can't get into their music. I would've stanned them a long time ago if it wasn't for that. 7. Purple kiss would be one of the top girlgroups in 4th gen if they were in a big4 company and they were consistent with the creepy concept 8. Taerae and Hao are in general the best 5th gen vocal duo and the best in 4th gen boygroups
@@vantefly the itzy one!!!! Like they give MAJOR mean girl vibes!!! A lot of their earlier bsides were kinda braty.. they also used a sophie demo for one of their songs. We need not shy itzy back!!
@@Imalittlelobster yes i think itzy should have go in that route if they didn't want to stick with teen crush forever instead of switching concept now every comeback (Cheshire, cake, untouchable...). And with Yuna as a center I think they can pull that Bratty vibe
@@jumpdumppyythat still means that attrakt is just as evil though? I dont get why you reason the fact that other companies do it too as a reason to support them.
Here an unpopular opinion of mine: I don’t get where the bp support comes from. All their releases, bsides and tt’s, sound the same and have the same formula and the same concept when it comes to lyrics. The girls themselves are also not appealing. Jennie is lazy, acts like a child but chooses to ‘act’ in a show about p0rn. Lisa did a strip performance, and it was stripping bc how do you start a performance in clothes and end it with barely covering the essentials, her solo music is also so meaningless and cringe and she needs to stop. Jisoo has little to no talent, she never has and she never will, she needs to stick to acting. She can kinda act. Rosé actually has talent and has good solo music, but her joining the black label is 😬. Somi 2.0 here we go ig. There is so reason for them to be the biggest gg, when there are other girl groups with so much more talent, better songs, better concepts, and better personalities.
Literally every ive song, baby don't stop nct u, boom nct dream, dumb dumb rv, obsession exo, kick it nct 127, view SHINee, love me right exo, and soo many more.. like he did not give us all these bops for nothing lmao
@@kimkardashi-un2.051 yeah I understand that but at the same time.. it's like saying Beyonce is a bad performer.. calling him just bad is very disrespectful tbh
2. Not the biggest fan of hybe but you're EVIL for saying that. Idc what y'all say - I've always wanted a group like Katseye and if they debut in a big 4 group then they have a significantly better chance of success so y'all can STAY BITTER because a korean would never even breath in your direction! *Storms off*
2. Hybe is trying so hard to replicate the impact new jeans had while simultaneously trying to ruin new jeans it’s honestly sad 3. MHJ is a horrible person, I wish more people recognized how many pedos there are in the industry. (Hit man bang caught hanging out with cam girls who make pedo content plus leaking a video of Hyein at12 yrs old doing a “sexy” dance. YG ruining a 15yr old girls career because he liked her and then proceeded to make a move on her once she was age, jyp making 14 yr old tzuyu do a sexy dance in revealing clothing.) i hate how more people don’t talk about this 19. THANK YOU, people have been trying so hard to find a reason to hate New jeans music like their song don’t sound the same. Maybe the same vibes but not the same sound especially supernatural they have never tried that genre (new jack swing) before 59. I would like you to go more in depth in another video about that. I kind of agree 60. Payola is used by every company like YG paid for 70% of babymomsters sheesh views but yeah Hybe is pretty bad 63. Ate what rapper doesn’t write their own lyrics 66. Thank you 67. THANK YOU 68. Yeah 68. Agreed 73. Yeah they’re cringe not slurs idk why ppl get so angry 75. ATE that’s why fromis and new jeans get along Hybe hates both of them 78. BG Stan’s gonna get you 84. It was never a joke kpop Stan’s are sick 86. exactly 90. LMAO ? 98. Yeah it wasn’t even trending this year 100. Well known
Number 90 is so messy that I had to pause cause I was lmao. But you know what, I would not mind that actually. Because sometimes really good music comes out of those beefs and feuds.😂😂😂😂😂
I can't even begin to count the amount of times I went "tf?!" while listening to these but regardless of what I think of this (or you for that matter lol) I really want some context for 1 and 100. I especially had to do a double take for the very last one cuz I thought you said kpop stans at first. Secondly, about 67, I'm not here to defend armies because as an army myself, I know how some of us can get. However recently, I've never been more proud of my fandom for coming together for Yoongi against the horrible bullying / parading shown by kpop stans and kmedia. Especially due to the fact that they HAVE been spreading misinformation to target BTS and we DO have the receipts to back it up (also I've seldom seen armies claim misinformation without evidence in the many years I've been here).
@@singularity564 the real footage was revealed and jtbc themselves accepted that they spread misinformation and footage they released wasn't of yoongi.
My kpop opinions 1. NJS music is overhyped- most of their songs are meh 2. MHJ, her shanman and NJS parents need to stfu 3. Kpop fans can be the stupidest people ever- seriously someone called Triple s girl crush and another one told me UNIS is flopping 4. UNIS has a very dedicated fandom for their size 5. Minju from ILLIT should’ve been ILLIT’s center 6. Minju from ILLIT should be capitalized 7. I’m happy Katseye is getting more fans 8. Katseye’s Debut is actually rlly good and I have no idea why people hate it 9. Debut by Katseye is overhated 10. I’m concerned for Saebi from izna bc black label will prob pull a girl crush concept and she doesn’t do good in girl crush- I’m afraid she’ll be Yunah from ILLIT 11. HYBE needs to release better quality music 12. I don’t like most of Jungkook’s recent solo songs 13. Seven by Jungkook is exactly why I don’t like western style songs 14. I want KQ to make a gg so badly 15. BADVILLIAN is the most impressive 5 gen gg to me rn- music and talent 16. I hate how people vote constants only cuz of visuals on survival shows
I also am interested in solo projects of Blackpink members more than any ot4 music. because we all have seen what YG does with Blackpink's discography and they will give more of the same in the future. but with Blackpink girls being in charge of their own music we can be excited to get something new with artistic vision and direction the girls would like to take. Also, I don't think signing with The black label means anything bad for Rose. I still believe she has a bigger say in her career and discography.
atrak did not abuse the girls they only took away snacks the members of fifty fifty werent supposed have in the first place. So much missinformation has been spread about fifty fifty about the situation without people actually doing their research. It was Sio’s decision to keep preforming even with her injury. She said she had anxiety, but didn’t she also state that she was seeing a psychiatrist for it? Keena went back to the group because she had realized that the members had been manipulated by someone other than atrak themself to turn them against the company. i promise you atrak isn’t as bad as people say it is
I disagree with the ”Free Keenan (I probably misspelled her name sorry) btw) since it was her choice to go back to the company and while I dont like attraktiv i dont think they are any worse than other Kpop companies out there. Atttrakt didn’t really do a lot of bad things it was mostly the owner of the other company that was involved in the whole situation.
is the kiss of life one a joke? we literally call them gay of life. they got hate for being in a tub together seemingly naked and being (gay/inappropriate)
5:01 I know you might still probably like lucy more, but a band called "the solutions" is really good too. You can check them out. The Solutions, Lucy and Guckkasten are my favourite kbands so far. They are the perfect balance of my kband music tastes.
I actually want #2 to happen NJ are the epitome of #19 and #77 #65 - IMO the majority of kpop idols are just models all ur KIOF opinions are right on the nose
45. i disagree w Bahiyyih. she hardly has much of a name for herself. she clings to her brothers fame too much and mentions him any chance she gets. i feel like she'll be forgotten/rarely talked abt as soon as they disband unless she (somehow) gets into another group.
lmao i just watched the video now bc ive been busy this week and im now realizing #43 is referring to when I made that confession on stream about how I used to pin holes in my photocards 😅
I'm at 77 thus far and I HAVE to disagree with the opinion that SuperM shouldn't come back with the original line up. I miss them so much, I wish they'd have a comeback. I'd be very interested in your reasoning why they shouldn't have a comeback with their original line up, because I feel like this is about Lucas.
Damn i love this format because the opinion is so short I can easily digest it and then comment my own opinion It's an interesting fenomenon (for me at least), and a breath of fresh air after all the fanwars where it's angry vs angry (I'm not saying you're angry, I'm picturing twitter here)
@@Supershy822 vocal doubling on its own isn’t inherently bad, it’s basically layering the track/vocals to enrich the production. the personal problem i’m finding within kpop is companies trying to tell me that it is member X singing when really that is member Y singing
@@heyalexisleigh hello, just just wanted to know if you have some examples or no. I'm very curious about this. Like in the line distribution does it count for the original voice or no?
@@Jeremy-ln5yu the line distribution question is actually a good example- that's why *sometimes* people can not tell voices apart from others. I will use my ults Enhypen. I can think of two examples- their Weverse Con performance of Come 2 Me, in the official uploaded version it's cleaned up but if you watch fan cams the member Sunoo's vocals are heavily used for Jungwon and Sunghoon's parts (last two lines of the song). Another, (imo more egregious since it is an official song and so blatant) their song Fatal Trouble has a line about the 2:21 mark that is supposedly sung by the member Ni-ki except it is VERY clearly (again) the member Sunoo singing it.
I saw a radio interview with katseye and it was some of the most stilted, forced dialogue I've ever seen between a radio host and an artist. It was like both sides were forced to stick to a very strict script written by somebody who has no idea real of what makes good American radio conversation. Especially considering everybody there aside from Yoonchae were at least comfortable English speakers. If hybe is going to keep such vibrant personalities on such a short leash, they're not going to make it much further than their preexisting fandom can get them
I think when the actual singer doesnt really sing everything, like recently a producer of the british group little Mix revealed that the one member that left couldnt be bothered to do her vocals or background vocals for their last Album as 4 members so they hired somebody who sounded like her to do the recording and nobody knew until now
BP is one of the groups thst make me angry alot. I like the girls, i like the off camera personality, and i looooooe ther voice color. But, i literally hate most of their song, some i hate in first listen and some i can not listen anymore. One day i sit and put some of my favorite parts of their songs.
Number 10 is so real. The way their fans are always excusing their humour with "have you guys never had friends??" Yeah but my friends don't fat shame and shame me for my skin colour?? It's so odd.
Also all your fifty fifty opinions are so on point!
Do you know wich unit or who did it?
@@Jay-sl1pf I wouldn't be the most familiar with then anymore but from what I've seen Haechan tends to often be the victim. Yuta made very questionable remarks about his weight recently. I heard NCT Dream boys are constantly fat shaming and colour shaming him (mainly Jeno and Jisung) it seems.
@@Strawberry-uz9pn I see.. I won't unstan them but thank you for clarifying
But every friendship is different. I bet these kpop idols prefer their members over their fans anyways. It is also a cultural difference, jokes like that is common to make in Korea. We have to remember they grew up in that culture and that influences them.
@vixxexo6855 That doesn't make it okay. Haechan clearly looked uncomfortable. It's not even about the members, if that's their friendship so be it but imagine the impact on their fans. It's not nice (as a plus sized person) to hear idols make such jokes, their words have impact as public figure. Also POC fans don't want to hear colourist jokes from their faves. Whatever they do in their free time is their business but they are publi figures and need to watch what they say publicly.
Calling Day6 overrated is wild XD
If we talk about a music perspective I can get your point but apart from that? They're not that much talked in the international sphere anymore, despite they've come back from their military hiatus and being one of the most well known k-Bands from the 3rd generation along with The Rose.
New album was a banger tho
@@mymumoverwaterstheflowersd8071 It was a good album and great return, they surely proved that they can work perfectly without Jae. It's just...sad that it didn't get talked about in the international community this much. It was their first album after the military and their first work as four, just these two factors should have been enough to get some attention.
If I should rank it, it would probably be a good candidate for one of the best albums of the year along with Onewe's album and LUCY's.
EDIT: I forgot to add XDH's album too. Loved it
Literally how can Day6 be overrated when no one talks about them anymore, and even on their peak, they weren't that successful, it's more of a "i don't see the hype" then "they're overrated".
You can't call a group overrated when their latest cb was barely talked
clock it
while I do agree that day6 being underrated is a bit questionable to me (sure you can say they are overrated in their prime of 2019 - 2021 but definitely not now after all that happened) from what I know about kbands, I don't think there are any kbands that are like famous per say either haha
Yeah I was confused about that too. I haven't heard anyone talk about Day6 in a video for.. so long and the first time I hear someone utter their group name it's while calling them OVERRATED? crazy
Overall I'd agree that they're not overrated, especially given their company, the lack of "buzz" on their last comeback, and how long they've been in the industry, but they are one of the most talked about and known k-band, so for someone who wants to get more into k-bands/ listens to k-bands they will overwhelmingly hear more about them in that space.
for a BAND they're the most popular kpop band
Here's some of mine
1. Nugu boy groups have been releasing some of the best music this year
2. Everglow could've been so big if it wasn't for Yuehua sabotaging them
Who’s yuehua and how did she sabotage them?
@@WonyOnDaZa yuehua is the company everglow is under and they sabotaged them because they were very popular but throughout 2022 everglow went radio silent mainly because yuehua didn't need them anymore since they debuted Tempest that's why everglows comebacks don't do so well
@@Augustlaster Ahh okay thank you!
The trend of companies prioritizing their boy groups despite their girl groups being more popular will always be mind numbing
@@Augustlasterit was also partly because of yiren (not that it was her fault) but she was on hiatus too
I feel 36 so hard. I was actually starting to get excited about new groups but like… UNIS has a 13 year old? I’m sorry, I can’t.
Literally
I feel that. Their music could be sooo good but I don`t know how I as a 27 year old woman should stan a group full of minors
@@writingdork3951 innit. I’m ‘okay’ with stanning a group with a minor in it as I am a minor myself and is around the usual age of minors who debut. BUT 13?? that’s absurd, and gross. Girl have probably barely touched on algebra and has a career
One other thing I wanted to note was that colorist humor among SM idols is prevalent across the whole company. I never forgot the burial of Chen’s Kunta Kinte joke, nor the self-deprecating/in-group colorist remarks made by SNSD, SHINee, GOT the beat, the numerous offenses by SuJu, etc. It seems to be part of the SM idol culture. Given that SM has been notorious for being the most obsessed with ideal visuals out of the big three since they’ve existed, it’s disappointing but not surprising.
Regarding Girls Generation calling Yuri a black pearl is a compliment. Yuri is often praised for her visuals and is often said to be in the visual line along with Yoona, Seohyun and Taeyeon.
@@vixxexo6855 there are multiple clips of people laughing at how dark she looked in her trainee videos which rub me the wrong way. Always has.
idk if this is controversial, but there’s just no excuse for colorism atp. like i get it’s a “beauty standard”, but it’s just so unfathomable that a society could normalize making fun of people for the color of their skin regardless of the context.
@@tupapaaaaa I mean, I’m in the US, and it very much is still a thing, sadly. Thankfully not as severe as it once was, though.
@@zinja0830 I know it is prevalent still, but I just really wish we could get past this already it’s so sad :(
sometimes 67 is right but this latest scandal has SO MUCH genuine misinfo going around. people taking a random video of a random person on a scooter and saying it was suga, saying his alcohol level was 0.227% with no source to back it up, and that whole suga challenge seemingly being started by “armys” only for it to be started by antis. i know armys SUCK but this situation was handled and received so horribly i couldn’t believe it. 1000x worse than it needed to be.
i totally agree the suga challenge was started by trolls trying to ruin army' reputation even more. but im rly confused.... its been a while so i cant remember details but i thought it was reported that the police found him on the ground, checked surrounding cctv cameras and released the footage of him. and they also took his BAC level and released that in the press release right?? was that information not released by police?
@@cabbagejuicethey lied and released the real cctv footage only like a week later when the media already spread the fake footage and news
Reminds me of jk situation
Idk fast foward was really good. I like it is a really good bside on the skz album. I agree chuus solo music is meh. I think the fifty fifty situation is more nuanced than yall make it out to be and forget that these are people with dreams and will do anything to get there. The Itzy Born to Be album is so good all the songs are bops. Ok I'm done responding to these.
2:50 in Korea, it's really common to visit the hospital for non serious/ urgent health problems. you can get treated for the flu in the hospital there. so idols saying they went to the hospital isn't as big of a deal as it seams
For the "korean Beyoncé" one i agree there is not right now. Even if artist are incomparable i would say in terms of music and vocals the closest korean artist to Beyoncé was Ailee.
We need more duo/trio subunits in kpop, with Chobom and Irene and Seulgi's subunit needing a comback.
I'd love for their to be a co-ed project groups like Triple H but with idols from different companies but unfortunately entitled fans will make that impossible for now.
45, they just renewed their contracts, why are we talking about disbandment already?
About 35, I am not going to deny that studio j needs to work on their artists promotions, but xdh has been selling out concerts lately and getting more well known in Korea as well (they recently charted with Save Me) I don't expect them to reach the heights of popularity of groups like Stray Kids because of the type of music they do, but they aren't a lost cause either
The only responses I wanna point out is 1. idk about "free Keena" when she decided that staying was her best option over being "free" from her company. and 2. big facts about Huta/Minhyuk. He's the only idol that nearly has me thirsting on main. As someone who is primarily aroace, that's saying something.
the problem w keena is she is her family’s only income and attrakt knows that. girlie is POOR.
@@embertrynka257 if that’s the case, choosing to become a trainee at a nugu company is the worst possible strategy. It’s like putting your life savings into NFTs. She’d have better luck bringing home a paycheck delivering food or working as a barista.
Attrakt isn't a bad company. The Fifty Fifty members simply got manipulated and got greedy. That's why she stayed, there's nothing wrong with the company.
@@milli3377 newsflash babe: no company is a good company. the concept doesn’t exist. and this is coming from a business major. companies care about profit only. and the girls being “greedy” is a wild take????
@@zinja0830 true but it more explains why she went back after originally leaving. it was obvious she wouldn’t fare well anywhere else
13 is so true. Chk chk boom as a title track is amazing but the rest of the album kind of lowkey missed for me? I mean, i love songs like mountains (stream it) but i dont see myself going back by will towards it. Its a really good album, but skz has done better before. Stays dont kill me 🥹
I guess it's just very different for eveyone, ATE is one of my favourite albums from them! The only songs I don't listen to are I like it and Runners haha
Hey, different strokes for different folks! Personally, I think this was a really strong addition to their catalog. It’s funny tho, I love Chk Chk Boom but I find myself coming back for I Like it, Twilight and Runners!
It’s fun to see how different people’s tastes can be.
Personally I found it rlly good! I liked it a lot more than the rockstar album! I do like rockstar tho! But some songs like Mountains and twilight I loved!
I love this album the only song I didn't like was Runners you opinion tho
As a stay, I really agree 😭😭 Something just isn't adding up for me. The only b-sides I really love are I like it and runners. I still think stray kids is really cute because it's a fandom song but the rest of the album didn't click for me.
ah yes impossible, talk saxy, honestly, and love 119 all sound so similar
I get you chose titles and one b side that all sound different but for me personally I love that they have a theme going on. Instruments
Get a Guitar, Talk Saxy, Boom Boom Bass.
Personally I like that they have a concept and stick to it.
I do hope in the future they do something that’s unexpected of them to release. Another love 119, not in the sense that I want it to sound like that, but in the sense that it takes me by surprise and I love it.
All of their other title tracks to me have made me feel like, yeah this sounds like something they’d release, it’s on brand for them.
well for that matter talk saxy, get a guitar and boom boom bass do sound the same and have the same premise..
@@IuvIies i disagree, they all give me such different feelings and i actually dislike bbb, but LOVE talk saxy... yk. yeah i agree that the appear they same on paper, but sound very different to me.
even Bom Bom Base sound similar to Get a Guitar with minimum changes to get a pass.
@@nonamenosurname6127 you can share your arguments or whatever, but based on my own feelings, I disagree
Im not too sure about the Riize comparison of ‘same music’ I would say that’s valid with Boom Boom Bass and Get a Guitar but I wouldn’t say it for any of their other songs
Also, SHINee remains my favorite 2nd gen favorites
11:40 It’s so confusing how some people say that they want groups to do a girlcrush/badass ish type concept and then when a group tries to or does it people say that it’s outdated
I love opinion #93. The trio sub units, especially DoJaeJung, put out excellent music. Even if the DJJ album was too short, I needed more! And BSS was fun and infectious. I hope they get a chance to do at least one comeback.
I love how I agree on half of these and disagree on the other half lmao - but i hard agree with you on some of these
So real on 99. I want longer, more complex songs again that have a bridge, a normal long secon d verse at least.
12:16 imo the term dozen is 100% overused. People will call someone a dozen if they mess up a tiny bit while dancing a dozen is someone who can’t sing rap dance and doesn’t have stage presence meaning that more than half of the idols who get called dozens aren’t actually dozens.
Like people call Giselle a dozen, despite her being a main rapper and a decent vocalist. She is just a weak dancer.
frrr dozen shouldve just stayed as the title for lucas where it originated (because its actually accurate sorry not sorry)😭 like u said whyyyy are we calling talented idols dozens just because they messed up one time
4:10 It always annoys me when people say stuff like that because it just shows they don't read. Rosie signed *management* contract with TBL. This means they will handle her activities in South Korea... and it's not even an exclusive contract! People need to chill about this
literally
101. People should be able to listen to music from the groups they like without having to get involved with any scandals/controversies etc. people should be free to enjoy listening to kpop music and that’s it, should they want to. If you want to get more involved with the members and the company, then go ahead. But telling people they need to acknowledge ‘controversies’ and ‘questionable humour’ in order to support their favourite groups is just silly
i will never will understand your sentiment of how lucy are so much different and better than other kbands just because they have a violinist🤔 also to call day6 overrated is WILD
Hongjoong is probably the best male artist that chungha has ever collaborated with considering the fact that male features in her other works often downgrade songs that otherwise would've been so much better with just her singing imo.This might be due to the fact that this collabortion clearly considered both Chungha and Hoonjoong's identity as music artists, with Eenie Meenie's soundscape feeling very much on brand with Ateez's music and the choreography referencing Ateez's title tracks'. Despite it being different from Chungha's previous works' it still feels on brand with her since she either has experimental songs that showcase her playful, charismatic side or her elegant, edgy side through her dance.
I hope that chungha collaborates with more female artists in the future like her recent acoustic 2000s inspired song with thuy that was released a few days ago.
26. My jaw visibly dropped since out of all members rose seemed the one to genuinely love & enjoy & have the want to create new music. Knowing blacklabel’s history, im so sad we’re going to see such a waste of her potential :/ because wtf is somis new song
did you people read?? Rosie signed management contract with TBL. This means they will handle her activities in South Korea... and it's not even an exclusive contract, she will most probably make her own music and she's smart she knows she has to promote her songs better than TBL OR YG
MHJ is the definition of “heartbreaking: worst person you know just made a great point” because fuck HYBE but also the way NJ interacts with her and vice versa is so upsetting, there is no world in which that’s an appropriate work relationship for a woman to have with girls half her age
Just because you don’t like HYBE doesn’t mean their aren’t correct in this situation.
@@lornam1142Hybe is not correct at all
EXACLTY min hee Jin sucks ass but she has valid points Hybe quite literally hates new jeans
@@GonBon1 They have tons of evidence against her.
Last one got me GAGGED I've laughed so hard at this lmfaooooooooo
me too : D:D :D And i guess the latest news about deepfakes etc. really prove his point a lot
67. Mind you multiple kmedia channels apologized for spreading misinformation claiming that random Korean man zooming down the road was yoongi. I think it really upsets kpop stans that armys aren’t willing to believe everything koreaboo, allkpop, or pann throw at bts. So yes, korean new sites spreading misinformation and being called out on and apologizing is proof enough.
He isn’t talking about Tlingit this was way before the Tongi situation
The point still Stan’s
@@GonBon1 no it wasn’t, the video uploaded during the entire yoongi situation. If you can’t match up the dates and get it right you don’t need to be in my comments ty.
Just an advice: add the captions/points to the vid because it feel like listening to radio instead of a TH-cam video
10:17 then boycott almost every other kpop company because they do the same thing or even worse. Throwing out sweets, overworking their idols, not protecting them, forcing them to go on diets. SM and JYPE especially are notorious for this.
“79” Completely agree lol. Their music and artistry are MILES ahead of their peers
Their album b sides stay slaying 😫 and their title tracks 😮💨🩷
You really shouldn't apologize for taking the time to rest and prepare an upload. You manage your time however you like, you don't have to explain yourself. And this sort of preface at the start of the video makes it age badly in my opinion
My heart did break a little hearing Day6 is overrated. I never see many people mention them even in their prime. Is it the music? The members? JYP being god awful with promoting them?
I think they just mean that day6 are overrated in comparison with other kbands because they mentioned how lucy is the best kband. I think overrated isn't the correct term to use. Maybe like they don't understand why other people like them so much.
I think that it's so funny how kpoppies will stan every company that has done worse than Attrakt and go onto boycott a nugu company that honestly hasn't really done anything wrong except hiring "the givers" to manage fifty fifty and not actually keeping an eye on them while the givers CEO was manipulating them into believing that they were getting the shorter end of the stick when the Ceo forged the members signatures to get the song writing credits of cupid.
done something similar to this if not worse so it would be hypocritical to stand any other group from another company and then say you won't stand the new 50/50 but they've all done similar things to this and in some situations worselike no one wants to talk about how 2 idols from SM have died
Number 72. I think Girls on Top and SuperM should either come back with their original members or not come back at all. A huge part of their groups popularity is because of the line up. Having Girls Generation, Red Velvet, and aespa members in one group is INSANE, and no other members would be able to fit their spots, same thing with SuperM, having Taemin, Exo, and NCT members. Plus, lets be fr, at least 70% of SuperM fans are waiting for their comeback because of Lucas.
1- I love ateezs title tracks 𝘣𝘶𝘵 imagine a song like dune (super underrated) / this world / we know as a title track. That would be amazing and a nice change of sound that we usually hear from bg.
2- saying day6 is overrated is WILD it feels like ever since jae left half of the fandom left with him
3- kpop stans will do anything to stir up drama, and it's getting ridiculous
(sorry for how long this is lol) ur so right about the ateez take, ive said this before and ill say it again but their title tracks are starting to get pretty repetitive. DONT GET ME WRONG im a huge atiny and i love bouncy, crazy form, and work butttt after they got popular from bouncy theyve been way less experimental with their title tracks. like they used to be known as a group that wasnt afraid to try different concepts but ever since KQ found a sound that stuck its the only music they release now. im glad theyre finally getting the recognition theyve always deserved but i still miss their older music from time to time. like i would do ANYTHING for them to release songs similar to deja vu or eternal sunshine, i miss both of those concepts so much although theyre like the exact opposite LMAO😭🙏
@kalkxx true!! As u said ever since bouncy the title tracks have been sounding the same. I mean, the biggest reason why most popular groups are gg, is because their individuality. Gg makes a style to a concept, make it their own sound. While bgs take different concepts BUT have the same style, the same sound. It's really sad to see ateez fallow other groups (what's popular) the biggest reason I got into them was cuz how different their music is to what I was used to.
( thing I'd like to add on. I wish they would play with the members voices. Have wooyoung doing the high notes instead of jongho. Have yeosang actually SING INSTEAD OF TALKING PLDD)
@kalkxx and omg finally some who agrees with me 😭 I've said this many times, and each time, I was either called a hater or a gatekeeper who doesn't want to see ateez succeed LMAO
@@o_Dexter_o yessss exactly we all know that jongho is undoubtedly one of the best vocalists in fourth gen, so why not showcase other members talent from time to time??!! wooyoung and yeosang are both so talented and their voices are so unique but KQ constantly wastes their abilities😞 anyways im glad you agree with me too, ive also been called a hater because of this opinion when im literally such a big fan of ateez lollll idk why kpop fans cant handle any constructive criticism when it comes to their fav groups
@kalkxx I swear kpop fans are getting dumber and dumber with each gen. I mean, have you seen what they've done with seunghan (I think that's his name😭) and I thought kpop got better with handling dating rumors
for me I think the fifi situation is so nuanced that at this point, I'm so undecided for where i should stand. I think the main problems I see is there's a lot of info with no validity from any of the parties involved (yet) as well as the fact that the fandom + outside parties are soooo divided that its ultimately become a bit scary to take it all in as you will haha. My apologies if that last part sounds so whiny and sensitive haha
I think I'll keep on supporting 3jeong in their journey to debut as those members are the ones that made adore them in the first place (saena was my bias at the time + I adore both sio and aran's voices always)
And I think it’s also important to note that there is a lot of misinformation about the abuse. The abuse happened under the care of the management team Attrakt hired, The Givers. That is if you choose to believe what was shown in courts along with Keena’s testimony. At the moment, they have the most solid and strong case.
However, the og girls are still victims, as this abuse was also with manipulation and gaslighting from The Givers. I’m happy to see the girls getting a second chance though. All three are very talented.
And Attrakt is at fault for neglecting to keep a tabs on their talent. They unknowingly made an environment where all this abuse could happen under their noses without realizing it. For instance, they had no idea Aran needed surgery bc texts shown in court shows that The Givers withheld that information from Attrakt. I think this is the perfect example of how Attrakt wasn’t connected to the situation enough and The Givers abuse was able to take hold.
Here's mine:
1. Armageddon was better than Supernova
2. While I think they're kpop stans who are very dumb I blv most of them aren't & know exactly what they're doing especially on Reddit & some in Twitter ( especially the part you said they're accounts that are being paid ,Yes ) think abt this
- Also I blv it's not kpop alone I also think some western accounts are paid too to promote on twt, I also don't hv proof
3. Rpwp by Rm is the best k album in 2024 & fe304 is the best album by a grp this yr ( I think the latter is not that unpopular) so far
4. Pple hv been talking abt kpop decline, music wise ,sales , I want this to continue until this companies decide to make good music ,even if they'll go to their super niche era or rock bottom
67 aged really badly
Not really, the point still Stands
7:19 I’m going to support them if I like their music. I commented this before but I dont think that attraktiv is much worse than any other Kpop companies.
I so agree
ntm on xdinary heroes >:(
No fr cause calling them a lost cause is crazy just cause they aren't mainstream
@@trinichan5103 exactly, they had a successful europe tour last year (that I was lucky to attend and meet them), are playing concerts regularly in Korea, have now had a couple shows in LA and I wouldn't call double digit million streams on some of their songs and 750k monthly listeners a lost cause either
Rock is just a more niche sound in the kpop sphere, but they're doing very well within that (+ jooyeon is becoming a well liked variety show guest)
@@ncteumaja Agree, they had to add a new date for the concerts in the USA because they sold out their concerts, that's definitively not a sign of being a lost cause
(they are becoming more wellknow in Korea as well)
What does ntm mean?
@@WonyOnDaZa not too much
Baby monster has like like 100-150m + TH-cam ad views and bot likes of u check the stays for their MVs. They didn’t buy as many for Forever but it’s for sure YG just wants to gaslight ppl into feeling like baby monster are more popular than they are
I think a good part of their views on ytb is because of ads but not that much imo. Plus they got impressive streams on Spotify and I don't think YG buy them. Last time I checked they had 9 millions monthly listeners on Spotify so I think they have a dedicated strong fanbase but they are not that popular for the general public.
@@nylehjohnson4560 they in fact did buy that many ads/bot likes and viewers, cause the mv gets significantly more views one week and super low on others. It means that week they were paying for more bc they weren't happy with the result. Same for likes.
On Spotify it's probably mostly playlisting/ payola bc it doesn't sound like ppl are rlly tuning into their songs. Maybe most of them who do are blinks who like the YG formula and YG type songs who are thirsty for a bp comeback but have no choice but go to bbm. But bbm arguably has even worse music than that imo.
@@Poop-pd9tg I kinda disagree. sheesh stayed in ytb top 100 for 3 months. It means it gets enough views to stay in the top for that long. YG is known for ads but payola on Spotify I never heard of it. The last time I checked the girls have 9 millions monthly listeners on Spotify so I don't think it's payola for Spotify. It's true they are not that popular if we talk about the general public but they have a strong dedicated fanbase.
And they definitely don't sound like bp imo. Especially in their latest comeback.
Why can’t HYBE monopolize the kpop industry? If SM could? It is definitely time for something, or some things, to end though, and it, or they, will. But it is unlikely to be HYBE.
Cheer up though! Tacky music and groups will always be produced for as long as people like you continue to consume them.
opinion 22 is so real. No one with a healthy mind would have chosen an abusive company when you know they are abusive. All they want is fame and money and it shows.
17 imagine being on fifty fifty's side💀(btw educate yourself at least a little bit, the fact that you think attrakt mistreated them is embarrasing, the ones who are to blame are the givers)
55 there is no big 4
82 ten
97 okay you ate that one
Imagine being on any side of this situation
@@muvani. Im not saying im on attrakt side, i honestly forgot fifty fifty existed. I just know whats what unlike this acc
Like these ppl support the ex fifty are actually clueless
100 is sooo unhinged
I think I wanna rec some bands in here. I'm sure that these bands aren't nugu by any chance, but I really wanted to shout them out in case anyone wants to check out their music
The rose, n.flying, onewe, hoppilla (my apologies for the incorrect spelling), iz, lucy, rolling quartz, qwer, ftisland, xdinary heroes
I listen to all of them, they're all good recommendations :D
Hoppipolla were one of my ultimate groups but sadly they're in the longest hiatus ever along with IZ :')
I'll add Snake Chicken Soup, Wetter (although I think it's disbanded as the vocalist is now on SCS. Still top notch music.), Surl, W24, WOOZE, Crying Nut, Dickpunks and RUMKICKS
@@BrandNewDeath Choi Wonbin (Wetter and SCS's singer) is a wonderful artist, he even released a solo project right now. A true rockstar.
I hope Wetter will come back soon somehow tho. After seeing We Are The Night coming back from their long hiatus only because one of their songs, Tiramisu Cake, charted again in Korea, everything is possible XD
I didn't know about RUMKICKS, I'll give them a listen :D
@@faceglitch. he's amazing! His solo work is also great
Omg both of gwve great recs, thank you both for adding onto this 🩵🩵🩵
4:34 with madein, I can see themselves switching their sound over, which to me is sooooo unfortunate cuz i absolutely adore their current music soundscape that limelight previously came out with (to me their soundscape is sparkly, tropical and more go with the flow). It seems like from the teasers and images alone, they may go for something that sounds a lot like fearless by le serrafim which is still gud but yk doesn't scream original to me haha
#49/#50 i have an opinion on how the marketing of 4th and 5th gen groups (including but not limited to age range + concepts), an influx of solo stan's in 3rd gen, bg stans vs gg stans, armies, and the commercialization of kpop as a whole (ex. having 7 unnecessary album versions) has all contributed to this shift towards people becoming casual fans but i dont have the words to articulate it yet
Tag me once you figured it out xD
I was gagged by 90. Visible beef between groups is absolutely not what I want. I want idols to either like each other openly, or dislike each other behind closed doors. We don't need that fuel for the fanwars.
67 aged like milk in the past day though
not really
@@doopmoop so the whole fake and accelerated cctv footage and fake reporting on major medias was not misinformation for you?
@idrils he's saying that people will run to call it misinformation/fake news BEFORE any real evidence comes out. obviously if it turns out to be misinformation AFTER the facts come out then it is in fact misinformation but it's weird that people will assume an accusation is fake or real before any official statements from trusted sources are made.
@@doopmoop 1) if it looks fake i call it fake
2) guilty before being proven guilty?
3) with the history of slander against bts, i feel justified being skeptical of grandiose accusations
Any fandom is a spectrum containing the shrill and the disengaged. I dont endorsed the shrillest but i do find the latest events justify the overall scale leaning towards a distrust of media scandals
@@doopmoopthe same thing applies when y’all deem someone “guilty” with no proof and misinformation. It goes both ways if you’re gonna call it out. If armys can’t say it’s misinformation without proof than yall can’t say “that’s him” in a video posted by koreaboo and you can barely see what’s going on in a blurry video. Be fr.
Here's mine:
1. Soyeon is the best performer in 4th gen. No one has her stage presence and charisma
2. I want more subunits and collabs between 4th/5th gen male/female idols
3. Izna's lineup is good but it could have been better. It's definitely better than Illit and they were all chosen by the public
4. I want Itzy to have a Spicy Aespa/Brat type of sound. I think it would fit them so well, with some iconic dance break somewhere
5. It's okay if you don't like an idol or get weird vibes from them even if they didn't have a scandal (as long as you don't hate them). It's like when your friend introduces you to someone and you don't like them
6. I love NMIXX members, they're so funny and talented, but I can't get into their music. I would've stanned them a long time ago if it wasn't for that.
7. Purple kiss would be one of the top girlgroups in 4th gen if they were in a big4 company and they were consistent with the creepy concept
8. Taerae and Hao are in general the best 5th gen vocal duo and the best in 4th gen boygroups
@@vantefly the itzy one!!!! Like they give MAJOR mean girl vibes!!! A lot of their earlier bsides were kinda braty.. they also used a sophie demo for one of their songs. We need not shy itzy back!!
@@Imalittlelobster yes i think itzy should have go in that route if they didn't want to stick with teen crush forever instead of switching concept now every comeback (Cheshire, cake, untouchable...). And with Yuna as a center I think they can pull that Bratty vibe
OMG YES RESCENE IS SO AMAZING IM REALLY EXCITED FOR THEIR COMEBACK
I dont believe attrakt is more evil than any other company and if the new fifty fifty will release good music, I will support them.
Ofc they are more evil bcs they abused the members to the point they almost died!!!!
@@smn_tr3asur3and other companies haven’t?
@@smn_tr3asur3 it was the givers, how people so misinformed, stop relying on tiktok/twitter for ur info
@@jumpdumppyythat still means that attrakt is just as evil though? I dont get why you reason the fact that other companies do it too as a reason to support them.
@@jumpdumppyy not extreme like how attrakt did you can literally see everything on social medias no company is that evil
Here an unpopular opinion of mine:
I don’t get where the bp support comes from. All their releases, bsides and tt’s, sound the same and have the same formula and the same concept when it comes to lyrics. The girls themselves are also not appealing. Jennie is lazy, acts like a child but chooses to ‘act’ in a show about p0rn. Lisa did a strip performance, and it was stripping bc how do you start a performance in clothes and end it with barely covering the essentials, her solo music is also so meaningless and cringe and she needs to stop. Jisoo has little to no talent, she never has and she never will, she needs to stick to acting. She can kinda act. Rosé actually has talent and has good solo music, but her joining the black label is 😬. Somi 2.0 here we go ig. There is so reason for them to be the biggest gg, when there are other girl groups with so much more talent, better songs, better concepts, and better personalities.
Ryan is an amazing producer bro r u ok?
Literally every ive song, baby don't stop nct u, boom nct dream, dumb dumb rv, obsession exo, kick it nct 127, view SHINee, love me right exo, and soo many more.. like he did not give us all these bops for nothing lmao
Well to you but not to him
@@kimkardashi-un2.051 yeah I understand that but at the same time.. it's like saying Beyonce is a bad performer.. calling him just bad is very disrespectful tbh
just IMAGINE a new woman remix with charlie xcx she'd fit it so well
2. Not the biggest fan of hybe but you're EVIL for saying that. Idc what y'all say - I've always wanted a group like Katseye and if they debut in a big 4 group then they have a significantly better chance of success so y'all can STAY BITTER because a korean would never even breath in your direction! *Storms off*
2. Hybe is trying so hard to replicate the impact new jeans had while simultaneously trying to ruin new jeans it’s honestly sad
3. MHJ is a horrible person, I wish more people recognized how many pedos there are in the industry. (Hit man bang caught hanging out with cam girls who make pedo content plus leaking a video of Hyein at12 yrs old doing a “sexy” dance. YG ruining a 15yr old girls career because he liked her and then proceeded to make a move on her once she was age, jyp making 14 yr old tzuyu do a sexy dance in revealing clothing.) i hate how more people don’t talk about this
19. THANK YOU, people have been trying so hard to find a reason to hate New jeans music like their song don’t sound the same. Maybe the same vibes but not the same sound especially supernatural they have never tried that genre (new jack swing) before
59. I would like you to go more in depth in another video about that. I kind of agree
60. Payola is used by every company like YG paid for 70% of babymomsters sheesh views but yeah Hybe is pretty bad
63. Ate what rapper doesn’t write their own lyrics
66. Thank you
67. THANK YOU
68. Yeah
68. Agreed
73. Yeah they’re cringe not slurs idk why ppl get so angry
75. ATE that’s why fromis and new jeans get along Hybe hates both of them
78. BG Stan’s gonna get you
84. It was never a joke kpop Stan’s are sick
86. exactly
90. LMAO ?
98. Yeah it wasn’t even trending this year
100. Well known
Number 90 is so messy that I had to pause cause I was lmao. But you know what, I would not mind that actually. Because sometimes really good music comes out of those beefs and feuds.😂😂😂😂😂
I can't even begin to count the amount of times I went "tf?!" while listening to these but regardless of what I think of this (or you for that matter lol) I really want some context for 1 and 100. I especially had to do a double take for the very last one cuz I thought you said kpop stans at first.
Secondly, about 67, I'm not here to defend armies because as an army myself, I know how some of us can get. However recently, I've never been more proud of my fandom for coming together for Yoongi against the horrible bullying / parading shown by kpop stans and kmedia. Especially due to the fact that they HAVE been spreading misinformation to target BTS and we DO have the receipts to back it up (also I've seldom seen armies claim misinformation without evidence in the many years I've been here).
9:30
aged like milk lmfao🤣🤣
What happened?
@@singularity564 the real footage was revealed and jtbc themselves accepted that they spread misinformation and footage they released wasn't of yoongi.
@@n.i.k.i.t.ahe just got fined though? I didn’t follow at all but wasnt it confirmed it was him?
My kpop opinions
1. NJS music is overhyped- most of their songs are meh
2. MHJ, her shanman and NJS parents need to stfu
3. Kpop fans can be the stupidest people ever- seriously someone called Triple s girl crush and another one told me UNIS is flopping
4. UNIS has a very dedicated fandom for their size
5. Minju from ILLIT should’ve been ILLIT’s center
6. Minju from ILLIT should be capitalized
7. I’m happy Katseye is getting more fans
8. Katseye’s Debut is actually rlly good and I have no idea why people hate it
9. Debut by Katseye is overhated
10. I’m concerned for Saebi from izna bc black label will prob pull a girl crush concept and she doesn’t do good in girl crush- I’m afraid she’ll be Yunah from ILLIT
11. HYBE needs to release better quality music
12. I don’t like most of Jungkook’s recent solo songs
13. Seven by Jungkook is exactly why I don’t like western style songs
14. I want KQ to make a gg so badly
15. BADVILLIAN is the most impressive 5 gen gg to me rn- music and talent
16. I hate how people vote constants only cuz of visuals on survival shows
I NEEEEEEDDDD a KQ girl group!
I also am interested in solo projects of Blackpink members more than any ot4 music. because we all have seen what YG does with Blackpink's discography and they will give more of the same in the future. but with Blackpink girls being in charge of their own music we can be excited to get something new with artistic vision and direction the girls would like to take.
Also, I don't think signing with The black label means anything bad for Rose. I still believe she has a bigger say in her career and discography.
atrak did not abuse the girls they only took away snacks the members of fifty fifty werent supposed have in the first place. So much missinformation has been spread about fifty fifty about the situation without people actually doing their research. It was Sio’s decision to keep preforming even with her injury. She said she had anxiety, but didn’t she also state that she was seeing a psychiatrist for it? Keena went back to the group because she had realized that the members had been manipulated by someone other than atrak themself to turn them against the company. i promise you atrak isn’t as bad as people say it is
I KEEP UP WITH KANG DANIEL
35 hit HARD since I am such an Xdinary heroes fangirl😭
I disagree with the ”Free Keenan (I probably misspelled her name sorry) btw) since it was her choice to go back to the company and while I dont like attraktiv i dont think they are any worse than other Kpop companies out there. Atttrakt didn’t really do a lot of bad things it was mostly the owner of the other company that was involved in the whole situation.
is the kiss of life one a joke? we literally call them gay of life. they got hate for being in a tub together seemingly naked and being (gay/inappropriate)
Which number is it? My brain can't process the fastness of this video
I agree heavily on the furry music in kpop
5:01 I know you might still probably like lucy more, but a band called "the solutions" is really good too. You can check them out.
The Solutions, Lucy and Guckkasten are my favourite kbands so far. They are the perfect balance of my kband music tastes.
I actually want #2 to happen
NJ are the epitome of #19 and #77
#65 - IMO the majority of kpop idols are just models
all ur KIOF opinions are right on the nose
As someone who ults The Boyz, your comment about their recent music, (aside from Watch It and Honey,) hurt
23: In love with Walk album
82: Jeahyun👑👑👑
45. i disagree w Bahiyyih. she hardly has much of a name for herself. she clings to her brothers fame too much and mentions him any chance she gets. i feel like she'll be forgotten/rarely talked abt as soon as they disband unless she (somehow) gets into another group.
lmao i just watched the video now bc ive been busy this week and im now realizing #43 is referring to when I made that confession on stream about how I used to pin holes in my photocards 😅
btob minhyuk is the hottest kpop man SO TRUE
What does straightest group mean regarding kiss of life?
minhyuk one is so real
I'm at 77 thus far and I HAVE to disagree with the opinion that SuperM shouldn't come back with the original line up. I miss them so much, I wish they'd have a comeback.
I'd be very interested in your reasoning why they shouldn't have a comeback with their original line up, because I feel like this is about Lucas.
I'm so sorry but i burst out laughing at number 19
81. Its Zhang hao
Between the sobg selection, short films, and variety projects, I actually feel like NMixx's marketing has been top of the Big 4.
NO. 75 HAD ME SCREAMING. THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS.
Naaah, ateez best song this year is Empty Box!!
for me is BLIND, anyway Golden Hour is another unskipable album from them ❤
Damn i love this format because the opinion is so short I can easily digest it and then comment my own opinion
It's an interesting fenomenon (for me at least), and a breath of fresh air after all the fanwars where it's angry vs angry (I'm not saying you're angry, I'm picturing twitter here)
YESSS WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TO CALL OUT VOCAL DOUBLING
What is vocal doubling?.
@@Supershy822 vocal doubling on its own isn’t inherently bad, it’s basically layering the track/vocals to enrich the production.
the personal problem i’m finding within kpop is companies trying to tell me that it is member X singing when really that is member Y singing
@@heyalexisleigh hello, just just wanted to know if you have some examples or no. I'm very curious about this. Like in the line distribution does it count for the original voice or no?
@@Jeremy-ln5yu the line distribution question is actually a good example- that's why *sometimes* people can not tell voices apart from others.
I will use my ults Enhypen. I can think of two examples- their Weverse Con performance of Come 2 Me, in the official uploaded version it's cleaned up but if you watch fan cams the member Sunoo's vocals are heavily used for Jungwon and Sunghoon's parts (last two lines of the song). Another, (imo more egregious since it is an official song and so blatant) their song Fatal Trouble has a line about the 2:21 mark that is supposedly sung by the member Ni-ki except it is VERY clearly (again) the member Sunoo singing it.
As a villain, 35 is so real, the boys r so so so talented and their releases are actually fire, jype really failed them and most groups as of now
77 yeah the single onlys strategy is a bit frustrating. Give at least 3 songs per era. not everyone of them needs choreo or mv if it's a cost thing.
I saw a radio interview with katseye and it was some of the most stilted, forced dialogue I've ever seen between a radio host and an artist. It was like both sides were forced to stick to a very strict script written by somebody who has no idea real of what makes good American radio conversation. Especially considering everybody there aside from Yoonchae were at least comfortable English speakers. If hybe is going to keep such vibrant personalities on such a short leash, they're not going to make it much further than their preexisting fandom can get them
5:51 Imo their checkmate album and their Cheshire album are both a no skip album.
Totally agree with 49 and 50.
The only thing you made me mad with is bringing up GWSN. Why did you have to hurt me like that 😭
What are vocal doubles?
I think when the actual singer doesnt really sing everything, like recently a producer of the british group little Mix revealed that the one member that left couldnt be bothered to do her vocals or background vocals for their last Album as 4 members so they hired somebody who sounded like her to do the recording and nobody knew until now
@@carolinesch. oh ok thx! I was getting it confused with vocal layering
@@carolinesch.Damn I didn't know! Where can we read about that?
@@kanelives609 a producer posted that on social media and news picked it up, thats where I saw it
BP is one of the groups thst make me angry alot. I like the girls, i like the off camera personality, and i looooooe ther voice color. But, i literally hate most of their song, some i hate in first listen and some i can not listen anymore. One day i sit and put some of my favorite parts of their songs.
9:08 Regarding 65: KPop artists are....
1. Models
2. Actors
3. Influencers
4. Dancers
5. Singers
6. Musicians (sometimes)
7. Idols/Role models (rarely)
nah why was 11 and 74 so real
Yay new juice upload!!!