Can you Beat Every Stand User in Stardust Crusaders?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- Not exactly, no.
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I think this strongly underestimates the Joestar Secret Technique and how much Hermit Purplre boosts that. You CAN'T jump Joseph.
you can't jump him. tho 9mm will cut it
It may take a while but we’ll eventually jump him. Just give us a year.
but can he stop 40 rifles?
@@Polish_Rosehe deflected bullets with Hamon and hair, I think hermit purple would give him an advantage seeing as vines are thicker than hair, and since stands can interact with physical things, he can use his Hamon more effectively
@@explosivegrape he can manipulate people with Hamon and has use of Hermit Purple to do it at a range that is impossible for even other Hamon users. He can make 40 people with rifles kill each other without them ever having a hope of knowing where he was.
On the D'arby Brothers: just don't play with them and instantly beat them to death
They stand have a body so they can still punch you
@@g.n.a4871 Bullet to the head, instant death, the Stand can't do anything against it, only a few like SP can defend against that.
@@g.n.a4871yeah at least the gamer stand seems to be decently strong physically
Also the D'Arby's are cheaters.
@@psykodactyleTrue. I think it was actually capable of stopping Star Platinums punch at one point
The tier progression be like :
"I NEED MORE BULLETS ! BIGGER WEAPONS !"
I NEED MORE BOULETS
MOAR DAKKA
THANK YOU FOR THE PROTEIN SIR!
The joestar secret technique after i fire a intercontinental ballistic missile at joseph’s location:
You didn't mention Rubber Soul or Yellow Temperance. But yeah, I don't think there's much we could do there. Yellow Temperance lets him disguise himself, physical force doesn't work, heat doesn't work, cold doesn't work. Only thing we could do is shoot Rubber in the face when he exposes himself (because he has a bad habit of doing that).
16:42 he wrote that he lost audio for that
@@dusanmarinkovic7029 did he say if he'd win
No he didn’t say that he said vanilla ice and cream whould stomp.
@@mcmogg_incmogg2080 What do Vanilla Ice and Cream have to do with how normal people would fair in a fight against Rubber Soul and Yellow Temperance?
Not really. Star Platinum has light speed punches and even he couldn't punch him in the face while Yellow Temperance was protecting him. The thing's too darn fast.
I've always considered the Sun to be under appreciated. If that stand was brought out in the middle of a metropolitan city and cut loose it'd be a weapon of mass destruction.
I think you forgot that Magician's Red's fire is also INVISIBLE as it's part of the stand
Another thing with polnareff is that he could always have SC’s armor off since there’s no risk of taking more damage
Your estimation of Thoth leaves one detail out of the equation.
Thoth predicts events.
"We're punting the baby."
-Kaleb I.A., 2023
Kyle would be proud
Ready, Ike? Kick the baby!
Jotaro: Supposedly FTL
Also Jotaro: Gets hit by knives
they were thrown by another MFTL person
@@KiyoGam1 doesn't make the knives ftl
@@nightlyy- Goku's supposed universe buster. Died to a heart disease. And it wasn't even a yardrat thing cuz vegita has been to yardrat in manga. shit doesn't have to make sense. Things are not what they look like ever.
And Jotaro & Crusaders feared for their lives that one time an average truck almost ran them over. Yeah, no FTL here.
I now have an Image of bombs bieng dropped on a city and Star Platinum just picking up Jotaro and loonytoons ass running away at lightapeed outrunning the blast.
You KNOW you gotta make this a series
I know we aren't supose to mention Cream and Vanilla Ice, but I was looking forward to you telling how doomed we'd be 😂
We could win that fight if we trap him inside a lava pit or something. He’d be curious as to why he’s not hitting anything and peek out, only to be incinerated to death
@@omnii5818wouldn’t cream be able consume the lava until it lowers to a safe level? not to mention that trapping isn’t an option as it would erase anything that would be used as a barrier
I would note that while stands could easily handle bullets in most cases, it still relies on the perception of the stand user. Remember how much Jotaro struggled with RATT? A sniper's bullet outraces it's own sound, so if we had him distracted he could get popped. Same thing with Polnareff
If anything that means Bug Eatens stand bullets are a lot faster than regular bullets
@omnii5818 also possible but still the basic point applies I think with the 'you can't defend against what you can't perceive' thing. Stand users are still largely human
Nah, star platinum would just catch it pretty easily same thing w silver chariot deflecting it since they are both mftl+ the reason why jotaro was struggling with ratt was because if he caught the bullets his flesh would decompose and that isn’t even talking about timestop
@octowoomyg6672 I don't even buy the argument for them being MTFL, but even if that is the case that doesn't mean that they can't be surprised, stand users have been taken off guard and injured by things way slower than the speed of sound before. Jotaro and Josuke both have been hit by things they have no business being hit by if their stands were FTL
All Stand Users can be beaten by taking them by surprise.
Like pretty much all of the enemy stand users.
Yellow Temperance who was otherwise pretty much unbeatable... and also wasn't included in this video for some reason
I mean, he'd either be impossible or could be taken out with sufficient firepower depending on how tough his biomass is
Please do a video like this for the other parts. This is a really interesting concept.
I love how you had to describe what jumping someone was
I like where everywhere I go, jumping is defined as an art instead of technique even
I would love to see more of this concept. I hope you make videos about the rest of the parts and whether or not they could beat us
I feel like everyone could be easely (or not so easely) with nukes. Even stop time can't avoid it. With the exception if vanilla ice though
Some of them wouldn't need nukes, just a bunch of guns should suffice
Yeah, time stop wouldn't give jotaro or dio enough time to escape it's range. But the problem with vanilla ice might be the radiation after the nuke goes off, he can't see where he's going. And also if he doesn't realise the nuke is coming hes probably screwed, possibly won't have enough time to hide if it already goes off
DIO would regenerate
@@PerfectCellUltimate bro how can he regenerate after getting his atoms separated 💀
I mean they could stop time and grab the nuke
@@Vikt-vg8nzi think the splitting of atoms is what happens inside the nuke, not what happens to the people
Make this into a series second part on Diamond Is Unbreakable stands.
in my opinion it would be virtually impossible to even fight kakiyoin and hierophant green, its range and skillset is insane, its impossible to even figure out how it works because we cant see or detect stands, and hes a smart dood too, the emarudo splashio could just shoot out incomming rokets in the air. but hey, cool video
The moment we figure out its kakyoin (which wont be that hard eventually) its over bro. The World stomps kakyoin both in JoJo and irl.
There would still be no empriical proof to indict kakyoin as the perpetrator( assuming that he would be this world's first stan related threat) even if a pattern wsas detected. Invisible emeralds being released from a distant user would be hard to combat. He would undoubtly be better at the "picking off certain groups at a time instead of taking legions of soldiers head on" type of thing, but you must remember that he can employ a psychic webbing( equivalent to a minefield) in the form of hierophant's strands.
@@tm8089Sucks that my boy Kakyoin even irl doesn't have that much going for him
No. No I cannot. Most of them would kick my butt to a ludicrous degree.
I think poisoning Jotoro with an assassin wouldn’t be that hard.
Edit: Most of these characters get folded by assassins. Society high key beats JOJO P3.
This says a lot about our society
Weren’t most of the people after the Crusaders assassins that were hired by Dio. Tower of Grey was said to be an assassin and he got clapped by Hirohpant. If it wasn’t for that then the crusaders would be dust. But also SP reacts without Jotaro in thinking about it as seen in part 6
Considering the reaction speed and environmental awareness of SP, combined with its FTL to MFTL speed, I highly doubt an assassin could reach Jotaro. Not to mention that you can make a pretty good argument for Jotaro having mountain-level durability.
@@RedLordOfAlagadda I’m aware of that but I don’t think there’s anything too suggest he has immunity too poisonous he’s tricked too consume.
@@Dogboi_Beebo Tower of Grey wasn't just an assassin, he was low key a terrorist.
I think if the enemy stand users were to be hunted we could beat them, because in the jojo 4d ride we had goggles that allowed us to see stands. So maybe the speed wagon foundation could lend the government the googles (and uv lights for dio). But if the government was handling the star dust crusaders the speed wagon foundation wouldn’t conply.
Now I’m curious. If we had a Tony Stark/Batman character, with high enough intelligence to figure out who the user is, and the materials to prepare to fight/subdue them, how would they do it?
Batman? For sure, most stands in JoJo part 3 (Or even 4) are beaten with the mix of intelligence and the items and creative use of what you have at hand. It's all about strategy and expecting the unexpected And Batman (Who's entire thing is that he does both) has a belt that hosts anything from Hydrochloric acid to a rubber dildo, so it doesn't matter what the weakness is, he's gonna hit it 89% of the time.
I wouldn't be surprised if he just strolled up to DIO and sprayed his eyes with some "Anti-DIO spray" which he just *Happens* to carry around conveniently. And that's assuming that Batman doesn't know who the stand user is, if he knows who they are and what their powers are, every minute wasted is a bigger chance he's tinkering some device specifically to counter whatever you have, modeled to be easy to use and with a trademark Batman (Sponsored by WayneTech) logo to boot.
@@d4n737
More literally just a flashlight given Dio's vampire weaknesses.
@@orekihoutarou6107the weakness is sunlight not just light and there’s no random “anti spray” he could just make up he still wouldn’t be able to beat DIO without the sun
@@PerfectCellUltimate
Alright, a UV Flashlight.
I'm pretty sure that Batman still has one of them as a detective.
@@PerfectCellUltimatestroheim and the third Reich wiped out Kars' entire zombie army with UV lamps
You kinda forgot that we have mustard gas and nerve agents and just in general a bunch of things we could just dump directly around these characters and completely fucking ruin them
I swear 60 percent of Stand users would get cooked with a gun bro
well if you think about it, with bombs against jotaro and time stop, sure, he can do it but only for less than 10 seconds, and with a cool down period. Plus in 10 seconds jotaro IS NOT out running the radius of a fucking nuke, even with the assistance of SP. Obviously that’s under the condition that we are willing to fucking nuke this one guy, but yeah 😭.
If he remembers how to stand jump like he did during the fight against Dio then and depending on which nuke he could very much out run that nuke. Since it’s mostly the shockwave damage and the sound he has to watch out for. Since the fight against Dio was only four minutes, granted that’s due to Dio spamming time stop and his vampiric stamina. Depending on the distance and how long Jotaro can Time Stop for and other random things. But time stop is widely op if Jotaro does do his stand jump. Pretty sure the fight was all around Cairo, within that distance he could outrun the nuke depending on which it is since it’s the shockwave, noise and the radiation that’ll get you with a nuke, not necessarily the explosion since the explosion range of the nuke itself is surprisingly small in comparison to how far the shockwaves travel
@@Dogboi_Beebo that’s fair, i also thought of him being able to that stand jump like he did with dio, but its hard to determine just how much distance either of them made in how much time. But, assuming it did happen across the entire city in 4 minutes i can agree that’s pretty damn fast especially if he spammed time stop. Also, assuming that google is correct and (for example) the hiroshima bomb has an insta-kill radius of about 2 miles, and Cairo is a lot bigger than 2 miles, then maybe he could, assuming he’s not fatally affected by radiation or the shockwave.
BUT since we’re on the topic of bombs, if we really REALLY wanted to go all out and didn’t care about anything else but utterly MURKING jotaro, then we could use the most powerful bomb ever created the Tsar Bomba, which can have an “insta-kill” radius of about 35 miles (about 70 miles across the whole length) and can level everything for 149 miles. I’m not smart enough to calculate how far jotaro could go if he went all out with time stop, but that is quite the damn task.
Jotaro has 5 seconds of time stop, not 10. Only DIO had 10 seconds and that’s because of his vampirism
@@ral2coolI don’t even think we need to go that far. We could probably ambush him by secretly poisoning him with toxic gases inside of a closed off room and he’d die before he realizes what’s happening to him. Considering he got ambushed by Whitesnake nearly in this same manner and almost died, I’d say we could do the same thing
@@ral2cool true true. And if someone how they managed to capture the Speedwagon Foundation they could always force them to make an even bigger bomb cause why the fuck can’t they. They seem to be able to make whatever exists a whole lot better
Kaleb ignoring our inability to fight these to begin with because we can't see or interact with them:
Stands are part of the User
@@monsieurlemonand…..
@@monsieurlemon Except the way Kaleb explains it, you'd need to affect the stand DIRECTLY
@@originalzero4422 Most of theese strategies ads directed towards the user
The thing about Judgement is that it is still fully capable of creating homunculi out of dirt and clay to help its user. The wish thing is just a gimmick.
Amazing video dawg, so glad to see this channel grow as it has. Well earned.
they made a movie about how birds are never suspected, pet shop is never getting found out unless he dont take off that helmet
imagine if hierophant green took control of the president then set off the nukes
I'd love this kind of video for the rest of the parts, especially the later parts like 6 or 7 (haven't read part 8 yet)
Part 8 the best
Jumping. Truly one of the most devastating techniques.
Would Ultraviolet lights help with Dio if you located the building he was at during the day so he couldn't escape? Shooting these lights from a distance into the building after RPGing the building's walls and ceiling. Trying to forcibly expose Dio to the sun? The speed of the Sun's rays is still slow enough for Dio to dodge, but like the knives vs Jotaro there will be so many of them that Dio should be getting hit by the Light of the sun and the Ultraviolet lights of the men trying to 'snipe' him with it from a distance/helicopters/planes out of The World's range.
I feel like eventually that would work, but a side note, he actually trains his time stop. Is it slow af yes, but he improves little by little. It depends on how far in he’s gotten. Also the guy moves extremely quickly combine that with time stop. It’ll take a long ass time, but it also depends on location so yeah, totally possible
@@Dogboi_Beebo If left alone for too long would he eventually ascend to Dio over heaven?
@@zamuda3852 If Dio did the ritual, but that would take some time. and destroying himself being part of the ritual
not to mention he has unparalleled charisma. even without his stand he could likely just take over a large area as a cult leader easily
“No one can dodge my emerald splash!” *DIO stops time and dodges it like nothing*
"This guy could probably escape any situation you put him in whether it be poison gas or shooting him point-blank with an artillery cannon. Could probably survive a bombing, too. He could easily be a threat to humanity..."
"This old man, on the other hand? Very jumpable. We shall run the 200 v 1 fade on that dude. It will not be fair. He will not survive."
"This child with a magic comic book? The fade shall be runneth. He will see it coming and still get thrown."
with Jotaro the government could just evacuate the nearby area and then call air support in the form of an AC-130 to make sure time stop will not help him at all [same goes to DIO], so we do need the big guns, but it do-able vanilla ice could be eventually found out if a drone or satellite of some sort would pick up on a human that magically appears out of nowhere and then disappears, it would be a case of being quick enough in destroying the body before he can disappear, so these 3 come down to probably just using the Angel of Death [AC-130]
That really wouldn't work for dio, his time stop gets longer and longer, and he can regenerate.
The best bet is to make sure to only his location, get an special ops team and when it is in the day, plant bombs in their and blow it all up; this won't initially kill him but when the dust settles and he is slowly regenerating; the sun's rays will definitely kill him
Though that would beat jotaro possibly; only up up have like multiple of them though as star platinum literally moves at light speed and was only outside by a shit ton of knives thrown at near light speed.
Or other similarly fast stands that catch him off guard.
And for vanilla ice, while yes that can beat him your explanation for satellite imaging is quite wrong and makes more sense the sensors on board the angek of death would notice it.
An simpler option is to just call a sniper and maybe a simple stealth aircraft above to locate him and take him out before he can do anything.
@@mr.brazilian5167 Bruh Dio had his leg ripped off by glass. He is literally getting eviscerated by bombs 😂
@@omnii5818 thank you for actually arguing and not just saying; "I ain't reading allat."
Where’s my boy yellow temperance, bro literally has a counter to way to harm it, and can disguise himself as anyone
Damn, The World stomps kakyoin both in JOJO'S and IRL
I wouldn't recommend jumping Joseph, just bomb him or whatever. He'll figure out how to use a crowd against us
Joseph has light speed reactions tho.
He dodged a beam from the red stone in part 2.
Avdol's fire was more or less part of the stand, not real fire. It was completely invisible to the guards in episode 1 of part 3.
"So........Nuke?"
"Yes Steve Nuke"
We have better gamers and gamblers. This just makes me proud.
I would just get an masochist to get affected by lovers and then murk steely dan
Dark blue moon gets solo'd by the fukushima power plant
Jotaro almost got bodied by Dios knives, Sheer Heart Attack which is probably equivalent to a grenade like explosion, and a Rat that had a sniper rifle. He is definitely beatable within your own standards without any or much collateral damage to the public, somewhere between Tiers 2 and 3.
This. Jotaro is super overrated when you consider the fact that Pucci nearly clapped this dude 2 times (Acid scene and stealing his disc) and even killed him all without having to physically confront him on his level. Even Kira almost smoked him without even needing to be face to face with him, and all it took was his sub-stand. Realistically I don’t even think we’d need nukes to take him
@@omnii5818 tbf Pucci has some damn broken stands and Jotaro got the last laugh against Kira since he beat the crap out of him even AFTER taking a point blank blast SHA.
In other words, any stand user that can get their ass beat by one regular, determined human is actually weaker than 'Survivor', which DIO himself considered the 'weakest' stand
This made me realise just how difficult it'd be for regular people to figure Pet shop. We'd have to first understand that the ice is psychically created AND that the one causing it is a literal bird. At least in the case of the other stand users it wouldn't be too unreasonable for people to eventually assume that a human has psychic powers and is using them to cause all this carnage. On the other hand, for Pet shop people would *also* have to assume that the bird is the one causing all of this, which i find unlikely since i believe nearly no one would even consider Pet shop as the cause for at least a really long time. In this case assuming the stand users went completely rampage mode i'd think Pet shop could annhilate at least Cairo's entire population before anyone considers the possibility of the bird having psychic abilities.
joseph is simply unjumpable with the joestar secret technique.
Hol horse being jumper by a large group of people that aren't stand users with no actual stand causing this event is so goddamn funny to me
Humanity vs JoJo on god 💪
Tower of grey getting some love? that's a surprise but a welcomed one
You could beat dio with one big uv light or one normal uv light and a bunch of mirrors
Imagine if J Gial put his hanged man in his own eye. At that point it would literally be that all he needs to kill you is look at you
Some of these users I’m just thinking of the scene where Mista, Abbacchio and Narancia just kick the shit out of that one guy
Please make a how many children each character could beat in a fight
Alright listen here Alessi...
This GOTTA be made for all parts
Keep this series going
some of these fight the key part is to figure how who the fuck is the user
I mean if Dio just stands under an umbrella in the day we couldn't stop him
Can Jotaro run away from the blast radius of a nuke in those 10 seconds?
Star Platinum gets him a fridge through the prison bars to climb inside
No, but Kaleb did say that would be a last resort cuz it would of casualties
You'd have to somehow get him into an unpopulated area with nothing around for many miles to nuke him without casualties.
Otherwise, nuking something is a last resort, designated for events that absolutely require them.
For all the "we not defeating them", it would take something ridiculous to stand a chance, and nukes may not be required.
If he got in a car and spammed time stop the moment he knows about the nuke he might clutch it
@@geschnitztekiste4111 fair yea
Kaleb, hear my call from the deep recesses of TH-cam: Mojo JoJo. This needs to exist, please make my dreams come true. If I'm not being clear, smart evil monkey is a JoJo.
We could easily beat stand users like Jotaro, we just need a colorless, odorless gas like carbon monoxide.
I LOVE this concept.
I feel like one thing people need to remember only the stand moves at light speed and can hit like a fuckin tank not the stand user so for example Jotaro can’t punch like sp and he can’t move like sp the only stand users who are capable of this cause they themselves have shown feats comparable to their stands are Joseph,jolyne,f.f and that old man from part 6 cause all of these people have dodged lightspeed attacks from stands without using their stand soo to say Jotaro has lightspeed well anything is cap cause he don’t we’ll maybe perception speed but that doesn’t really matter if you can’t act on it
He does have massive durability though, I think you can high ball him to mountain durability where bullets would not hurt him.
Give me a grenade with all of them sleeping, high, naked, they cant activate their stands and two rocks identical to one another then maybe I can
The glazing is unreal
I'm surprised that with Darby nobody thought of just... beating him up like the rest of the users. Yeah, sure, if we kill you, the soul of whoever you trapped will be lost, but you never said anything about beating the crap out of you until every bone in your body is burning in pain...
On that note, the brothers stand works based on your admission of defeat... So in other words, Darby brothers are countered by delusional narcissists who don't have the capacity to admit defeat even when it's clear as day. They can lose and lose, but they still won't FEEL like they've lost
*Looks at the Tuskegee Experiments, Waco, Ruby Ridge, and many other things the government has done.* ...
You're very much an optimist.
Another way to easily defeat avdol, if your pour tons of gasoline around him, not only can he not use his flames but you can set him on fire yourself
What if Darby challenges all the world leaders to poker?
Meanwhile Jotaro gets beaten by a rat with bullets. Imagine a team of snipers. Jotaro wouldn't stand a chance
0:48 I love this WW3 inspired video HAHAHAH.
2:00 when are we getting a video that's about a fight between some JoJo, and a western cartoon character?
Speaking of video ideas - and I'm sure you're not running out of those, sorry - how about a jojo villain like Diavolo, except he can turn back time for 5 seconds (or an increasing period according to user ability). Never been done up to Stone Ocean. DIO loves faking out people as if he's doing this, but he's not.
3:25 the art of jumping 😂😂.
4:31 "jumpable people" I love this jumpable word 😂😂. Like an engineer has to check for it.
7:27 "makes it more funny" 😂😂.
12:08 that's horrific.
15:54 "and this range keeps on moving with that guy, ya know, probably that guy" hahahahaha.
the problem with the baby stand is nobody other than someone as smart as Kakyoin(Kinda special case) would know the baby is the stand user.
if it bleeds we can kill it
You remember that only a stand can beat a stand?
I mean, if you have a taskforce that includes snipers with heat vision, you can force Jotaro to timestop and while he is on cooldown multiple snipers fire at the same time.
It was shown that Star Platinum is able to independently catch a bullet from point blank range. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume it could stop the snipers' rounds
@@justakuuderetrue. It can move without Jotaro’s knowledge, so it would most likely catch all the bullets
Maybe if there's enough snipers he would eventually be overwhelmed. I'm talking like maybe hundreds of bullets being fired at once from all different directions. This would surely overwhelm him at some point unless he uses time stop to escape, since time stop is kinda spammable in the series
@@justakuuderehe could only stop it if he knew it was coming For him, remember that he got hit by the rat when it bounced the bullet in part 4
Some of them you can't.
We'd win since we basically have the ability of future sight because of our knowledge of part 3
find dio's crib then just bomb it, the light from the sun comes in and melts him
Imagine if Jonathan Joestar had a Stand.
He does, it just happens to be post-mortem.
He did
@@Raidraptor_-_Ultimate_Falconno it is the manifestation of hamon, jonathan always had it and probably could eventually have manifestated it
when dio used the arrow on itself both their stands manifestated sending signals to all joestars to do the same because of the psychic link of the family
he had a stand
to say jonathan had a stand would be factually correct, but it's very misleading.
jonathan's *dead* *body* had a stand that dio used to track the joestars.
saying jonathan had a stand makes it sound like he was fighting with something like star platinum in part 1, which he wasn't.
DIO loses to UV flashlight
Poison his/her water
N'Doul reminds me of how they took out Lucy in Elfin Lied. Both take out mfs really similarly
1:53 Star Platinum whammu
If the US government gives me the nuclear launch codes then I can solo them all.
He was a threat to the world once 2:13
This video made me remember how boring Part 3 stands are
Stroheim vs that one Stalingrad Stand user
Boingo using Thot to watch his own ass get kicked
I dunno, Jotaro struggles pretty hard with long-distance fights. You might be able to ambush him with a sniper rifle.
Give Death 13 a little more credit. The murders would be difficult to trace, and no one would suspect a baby.
We now need a jojo vs. A-10 Warthog tierlist
Also snipping Jotaro wouldn't work since Star Platinum's reaction speed is that fast... at its youth of course. SO yea.
Remember that Jotaro got hit by the rat
He can't react to what he doesn't know is coming.
jotaro
strength is so funny because like if that mf gets found, you can just send a tomahawk missile at it and the problem is solved instantly
Coud you try the demo of jojo diamond records revival? It would be nice to see you talk about fan contents, it's based on a deleted jojo game