A lot of speculation on what is rule #2, but my best guess is “stay relaxed” If you’re tense you will naturally lean back, while being relaxed, you can lean into the fronts of your boots and have full control of where your skis go.
Based on the ending, it appears rule #2 is keeping your weight forward and your ankles flexed so that you can initiate turns with the front tips of your skis. It also prevents the front tips of your skis from getting kicked around by crud so easily. Many beginners get into trouble because they are riding in the back seat, and then they try to correct by twisting their arms and/or torsos... which only makes things worse.
Let me guess, Golden Rule #2 is to "Control the relationship of the center of mass to the base of support to direct pressure along the length of the skis"? Or in other words maintain an athletic stance for good balance. I liked the video and subscribed to this channel.
Very good! I coach similarly but use a " fan" progression whereas I traverse lifting the uphill ski ( tail only ) then start backing it up in the turn, lifting after that middle, then in the middle of the turn. Finally, at the beginning if possible. Yours is a great video with superb coaching. Thanks.
One other thing I learned to do is to try to keep your upper body faced down the hill, not following your skis. You can see the racer in the course is doing this, skis turning left and right, but upper body always facing straight down the hill
Hi Pete - we call this rotational separation, check out my video on ‘quick turns’ which elaborates about this concept including some misconceptions. Hope you find it interesting! 👍🏻🙏🏻
Your course is the best George!!! Congratulations! It is so good to have all the information in one place without contradictory guidelines. Very reasonable priced, full of great information and well structured. Looking forward to be practicing all we have learn with our two kids over the next to weeks in the Alps.
How do I access all of your tutorials? I'm subscribed but only see a few and they are not in order. I really enjoy your clear instructions and have been able to implement them while recently skiing Breck in CO. TY
Hi Teri - glad the videos are useful to you. I have just put a few on TH-cam and sorry they are not in order. You can see the full series of videos, in order via www.alpinetutorials.com/intermediate-skiers - hope that helps. Thanks, George
Besides, no one remembers none of these video contents when the enter the slope. Beginners are stiff from fear, mediocre skiers try to remember how it was last time, and advanced skiers dont need any advice. But , you are doing good promotion for skiing and yourself. I mean all of you hundreds of ski vloggers, who share (for free) your knowledge here and in other social mefia platforms. Thnx for that👍
I don't usually leave negative comments as I understand you're only trying to make a living, but tell me. How well would this work on soft powder? Only knee deep.
Powder is the exception to the rule, where weight should be distributed more evenly across both skis, depending on how soft it is. However, in my experience, it is much better to build a skiers technique around the ability to balance on the outer ski first, and later teach them how to tweak that for variable snow conditions. You’ve got to crawl before you walk before you run. Confusing beginners with the exception to the rule is like teaching running before crawling
The actual Golden Rule #1 is that the body weight must be forward (shins in contact with boot tongue). BTW, just teach lifting the heel of the inside ski.
Yea, no. Good at turn initiation, but not so much at apex and finish. If you stay forward, the tails of the skis tend to skid, losing grip. Center of mass (body weight) shifts subtly fore and aft throughout the turn -- body position is dynamic, not static. Your center of mass should in general always be over the entire length of the skis and not too far forward or too far back.
@@Osnosis Not sure what you mean by that -- you can't ski without bindings, LOL. You also can't properly carve a turn if your center of mass stays over the front of your skis. At turn initiation, pressure should be in the ball of your foot. This forward movement engages the front of the ski, making it easier to turn. The movement of the pressure from the ball to the heel directs pressure along the entire length of the skis, giving grip to the tail of the skis, providing direction. Keep in mind this is a subtle movement of the feet to direct pressure -- you're not moving the entire body.
@@JB91710 Yes (see Harald Harb's technique books and videos). However, I have found that. in teaching, the forward (athletic) stance makes this much easier to accomplish this as the student is 'carrying' less fear into the turn (edge change). Additionally, the forward stance helps tremendously in powder turns, which aren't really edge change turns.
A tip to help you lift the inside leg off the snow on a steep hill. Is to bend the outside leg. The more you bend the outside leg the more the inside leg will lift.
While I believe you, and applaud this excellent video, I would challenge your instruction. Stop any turn mid frame and ask where the center of gravity is…it is NOT over the outside ski. When I am asked to balance on my left foot while standing, I put my center of balance over my left foot, and right foot same. I.e. stop vid at 1:29 and see that NO PART of the body is over the ski (except lower arm). So - while I know that you know what you mean, saying to “balance on the outside ski” is not the right phrase. As a diving coach and instructor I know that once the diver is off of the springboard, what happens in the next 3/4 of a second is everything, so I need to impart a single focus that must interpret to the correct outcome. I am assuming that you mean to shift weight and drive into the outside ski, lifting weight and drive away from the inside ski…? Am I correct? Can you please comment or perhaps rephrase your instruction. I am really trying to get my arms around this sport. TY, and otherwise one of the best instructions I’ve seen yet.
At that point in the turn there is centripetal force pushing him onto the outside ski. This allows him to stay balanced over the outside ski despite not being properly over it
Haha. Nice way you presented the way no one learns nothing. But.... No one learns to ski in general or well by watching (good) ski videos likes yours. Like a child does not learn biking by watching her mom biking. But.... Its fun to watch if one likes skiing.
Looking at your footage you are not "over" the outside ski. You are directly "over' the inside ski. I think the way you say this is confusing. The force is on the outside ski for sure, but the body is not at all over that ski. Pause and look.
My sister - an advanced intermediate skier - took a lesson last year and told me the instructor taught her to focus on leaning on the *uphill* ski in turns. I couldn't believe that was the case - I thought she must have misunderstood but she insists this is what the instructor was teaching her. It makes no sense to me.
I find that children like frivolous unnecessary nonsense. You can call things what ever you want and get the same result. I like gibberish like Counterbary to describe (local frame of reference, general relativity) Balance. It sounds funny. I also like wobbly stability. I also like manipulating gravitic force vectors Dynamic Counterbary (Inertial frame of reference... Special Relativity.... Einsteins happiest idea because he stole from Newtons home work). The golden mean is a Fibonacci spiral. Great for learning the forces in "J" turns. Gravity is not a thing but differential time dilation is the latency clocks exhibit in proximity to massive objects... frame dragging. Pole plants help us to extablish a local frame of reference (happy place) between moments of rectilinear motion (free fall).
this is great but i couldn't find the video for golden rule #2 :(
Quite possible this channel is the best ski tutorials on TH-cam ! I've seen lot of them
You are the best. Thank you!! 👍👍👍
Agree. I like the analogy along with the pictures to explain using outside leg to turn. Super helpful to understand and then to practice.
A lot of speculation on what is rule #2, but my best guess is “stay relaxed”
If you’re tense you will naturally lean back, while being relaxed, you can lean into the fronts of your boots and have full control of where your skis go.
Waiting for your 2nd rule
Based on the ending, it appears rule #2 is keeping your weight forward and your ankles flexed so that you can initiate turns with the front tips of your skis. It also prevents the front tips of your skis from getting kicked around by crud so easily.
Many beginners get into trouble because they are riding in the back seat, and then they try to correct by twisting their arms and/or torsos... which only makes things worse.
My 2 Golden Rules for over 27 years were . . . keep it simple and have fun.
Thanks for sharing
Great rules!
Looking forward to the other videos.
Thanks! We'll put some of them up in due course, or they are all available here: www.alpinetutorials.com/intermediate-skiers
Well done! Love the start of the video! 😁👍
This video is so useful and informative!!! Thank you very much for creating it!
Awesome video 🙌 Like you said, too many instructors over complicate teaching the basics. Thanks again 👍🏻👍🏻
Cheers to you! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Let me guess, Golden Rule #2 is to "Control the relationship of the center of mass to the base of support to direct pressure along the length of the skis"? Or in other words maintain an athletic stance for good balance. I liked the video and subscribed to this channel.
Thanks Phillip, great guess! But I use a somewhat different wording for GR#2....
Very good! I coach similarly but use a " fan" progression whereas I traverse lifting the uphill ski ( tail only ) then start backing it up in the turn, lifting after that middle, then in the middle of the turn. Finally, at the beginning if possible. Yours is a great video with superb coaching. Thanks.
Thanks James glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the comment
One other thing I learned to do is to try to keep your upper body faced down the hill, not following your skis. You can see the racer in the course is doing this, skis turning left and right, but upper body always facing straight down the hill
Hi Pete - we call this rotational separation, check out my video on ‘quick turns’ which elaborates about this concept including some misconceptions. Hope you find it interesting! 👍🏻🙏🏻
Super helpful video- thank you! Can't wait for the ski season to start now to put all in to practice again :)
Thanks for the comment - have fun next time you're on snow, hope this helps
Really good lesson. Maybe see you in Avoriaz later this year
Thanks for the comment - looking forward to skiing again soon!
So, uh, what's the other golden rule?
it's here ;) www.alpinetutorials.com/intermediate-skiers
Are you balanced on your outside ?
Always, on hard pack. Not in deep powder.
So great! Thanks
Thank you Priya
Excellent --- just excellent -- thanks :)
Glad you enjoyed it, Thanks for the nice comment
Can’t seem to find other videos
Your course is the best George!!! Congratulations! It is so good to have all the information in one place without contradictory guidelines. Very reasonable priced, full of great information and well structured. Looking forward to be practicing all we have learn with our two kids over the next to weeks in the Alps.
Such a nice comment, that means a lot! I hope it helps you to have an awesome time on the slopes. Many thanks - and enjoy! 🙌🏼⛷️🙏🏻
Thanks so much 🙏
Thanks for the comment 🙌🏼
How do I access all of your tutorials? I'm subscribed but only see a few and they are not in order. I really enjoy your clear instructions and have been able to implement them while recently skiing Breck in CO. TY
Hi Teri - glad the videos are useful to you. I have just put a few on TH-cam and sorry they are not in order. You can see the full series of videos, in order via www.alpinetutorials.com/intermediate-skiers - hope that helps. Thanks, George
Where is your video about the scenarios where more of the weight is on your inner ski?
Can’t wait! What is the 2nd Golden Rule? Let me guess the 2nd Golden Rule is that there is only 1 Golden Rule in skiing. Pressure the outside ski! No?
Where are the other videos in the series?
the full series is on www.alpinetutorials.com/intermediate-skiers
So what is number 2?
Besides, no one remembers none of these video contents when the enter the slope. Beginners are stiff from fear, mediocre skiers try to remember how it was last time, and advanced skiers dont need any advice. But , you are doing good promotion for skiing and yourself. I mean all of you hundreds of ski vloggers, who share (for free) your knowledge here and in other social mefia platforms. Thnx for that👍
I don't usually leave negative comments as I understand you're only trying to make a living, but tell me. How well would this work on soft powder? Only knee deep.
Powder is the exception to the rule, where weight should be distributed more evenly across both skis, depending on how soft it is. However, in my experience, it is much better to build a skiers technique around the ability to balance on the outer ski first, and later teach them how to tweak that for variable snow conditions. You’ve got to crawl before you walk before you run. Confusing beginners with the exception to the rule is like teaching running before crawling
The actual Golden Rule #1 is that the body weight must be forward (shins in contact with boot tongue). BTW, just teach lifting the heel of the inside ski.
Yea, no.
Good at turn initiation, but not so much at apex and finish. If you stay forward, the tails of the skis tend to skid, losing grip. Center of mass (body weight) shifts subtly fore and aft throughout the turn -- body position is dynamic, not static. Your center of mass should in general always be over the entire length of the skis and not too far forward or too far back.
@@harryhanson6660 True enough, but once the bindings are mounted, if your weight is in the heels you will not be able to carve a turn.
@@Osnosis Not sure what you mean by that -- you can't ski without bindings, LOL. You also can't properly carve a turn if your center of mass stays over the front of your skis. At turn initiation, pressure should be in the ball of your foot. This forward movement engages the front of the ski, making it easier to turn. The movement of the pressure from the ball to the heel directs pressure along the entire length of the skis, giving grip to the tail of the skis, providing direction. Keep in mind this is a subtle movement of the feet to direct pressure -- you're not moving the entire body.
@@harryhanson6660 I’ll stick with my Golden Rule #1; 30 years of experience😀
@@JB91710 Yes (see Harald Harb's technique books and videos). However, I have found that. in teaching, the forward (athletic) stance makes this much easier to accomplish this as the student is 'carrying' less fear into the turn (edge change). Additionally, the forward stance helps tremendously in powder turns, which aren't really edge change turns.
A tip to help you lift the inside leg off the snow on a steep hill. Is to bend the outside leg. The more you bend the outside leg the more the inside leg will lift.
While I believe you, and applaud this excellent video, I would challenge your instruction. Stop any turn mid frame and ask where the center of gravity is…it is NOT over the outside ski. When I am asked to balance on my left foot while standing, I put my center of balance over my left foot, and right foot same. I.e. stop vid at 1:29 and see that NO PART of the body is over the ski (except lower arm). So - while I know that you know what you mean, saying to “balance on the outside ski” is not the right phrase. As a diving coach and instructor I know that once the diver is off of the springboard, what happens in the next 3/4 of a second is everything, so I need to impart a single focus that must interpret to the correct outcome. I am assuming that you mean to shift weight and drive into the outside ski, lifting weight and drive away from the inside ski…? Am I correct? Can you please comment or perhaps rephrase your instruction. I am really trying to get my arms around this sport. TY, and otherwise one of the best instructions I’ve seen yet.
At that point in the turn there is centripetal force pushing him onto the outside ski. This allows him to stay balanced over the outside ski despite not being properly over it
Haha. Nice way you presented the way no one learns nothing. But.... No one learns to ski in general or well by watching (good) ski videos likes yours. Like a child does not learn biking by watching her mom biking. But.... Its fun to watch if one likes skiing.
My problem is I cannot turn after balance on the outer ski-to-be before the turn
Start the turn first, then balance on the outer ski once it has begun 👍🏻
@@Avoriazskischool thank you so much. I am also struggling on balancing on one leg. Cheers
Looking at your footage you are not "over" the outside ski. You are directly "over' the inside ski. I think the way you say this is confusing. The force is on the outside ski for sure, but the body is not at all over that ski. Pause and look.
Perhaps balance ‘on’ the outer ski, rather than ‘over’ is better wording then 🤔👌
@@Avoriazskischool agree! I love your videos. Thank you.
My sister - an advanced intermediate skier - took a lesson last year and told me the instructor taught her to focus on leaning on the *uphill* ski in turns. I couldn't believe that was the case - I thought she must have misunderstood but she insists this is what the instructor was teaching her. It makes no sense to me.
As an American I like to use the word “whilst” but people look at me weird. 😙.. I wish we’d use that word more often.
Haha 😂 use anyway, even whilst they look at you weird ;)
Do you have more complicated words to use? I'm sure that's enriching the poor kids' vocabulary ...
I find that children like frivolous unnecessary nonsense. You can call things what ever you want and get the same result. I like gibberish like Counterbary to describe (local frame of reference, general relativity) Balance. It sounds funny. I also like wobbly stability. I also like manipulating gravitic force vectors Dynamic Counterbary (Inertial frame of reference... Special Relativity.... Einsteins happiest idea because he stole from Newtons home work). The golden mean is a Fibonacci spiral. Great for learning the forces in "J" turns. Gravity is not a thing but differential time dilation is the latency clocks exhibit in proximity to massive objects... frame dragging. Pole plants help us to extablish a local frame of reference (happy place) between moments of rectilinear motion (free fall).
These are hilarious! Can’t wait to try some out on my next 6-8yrs easy blues group 😂