I'm going to throw one more comment in here also for a sooner fan and a loss I am so proud of this team for not giving up we fought the entire game and in the past that didn't happen.
I LOVE Coach V and I'm a fan of Jackson Arnold but I think Coach V is being FARRR to generous to JA's performances. He said "Jackson forced things and he doesn't really do that." but in the last game, he forced a pass that resulted in a pick 6. I mean how many points has JA caused us in turnovers. It's a real problem now, 4 games in and if you look back to the Alamo Bowl there's more. This is a VERY disturbing trend in JA's performances and it seems that Hawkins deserves a chance to start.
Thank God we finally benched Arnold! He was Spencer Rattler 2.0 if not worse! He doesn’t see the field, makes terrible throws, and when he does throw it’s in coverage. Hawkins is the better QB. He should have been benched awhile ago but wasn’t because of his high rating coming out of high school
hes not as bad as spencer rattler give him a break hes a young kid go back and watch young jason white, young landry jones, old nate hybl lol, bomar lol, paul thompson I could go on and on. JA needs to be more confident he is nervous out there.
@@barryschultz4947 this is part of the problem, we let the kids play through their mistakes. if you start pulling people b/c of one bad play or one bad game you will never build a championship program. i don't even know if OU should have that as a goal anymore.
First off, I'd like to say that I walked out the room, and said a prayer for that kid that injured his lower leg. My prayers are that the our lord God helps that kid recover in a timely manner! Second, I'd like to say, welcome to the SEC, OU! You guys are going to be a tough out for anyone this and especially next year, and that new QB you put in is a DUDE! That kid has that dawg in him!!!
Just so you know we are winning next week at Auburn. If we pick the right QB to start the game. Defense is solid. Tennessee averaged 55 ppg and over 600 ypg on offense, we held them to 25 points and 355 total yards. Thats just me being positive, because it wasn't really a blowout. Venables is not going anywhere and for those complaining about the coaching. He just got a 4 year extension. So suck it up we have seen better in some areas, but we have also seen worse.
in jackson arnolds defense there were lots of breakdowns blocking, no run game and than he had drops like when he escaped a sack and 10 dropped what should have been a first down. They got to match the offense to what your QB can do. Hawkins has more quickness and was able to escape the pressure better, jackson has a tendency to duck his head down under pressure and then its over.
The defense has that dawg in them for sure. 100% effort all the way to the end. I’m not a coach but no means but if we do a bunch of quick pass plays and quit dropping back 7 yards and scanning the field we will do much better.
With the injuries, inexperience, and trouble the line has had blocking, Hawkins gives the team a better chance at being successful with his athletic ability. He also looked like he had a better feel for the game. Herbie said it on the telecast, “that’s your QB”
BV has to take ownership and make decisions about the Offense. Hawkins has to be QB1 and Littrell must be on the shortest leash in history. Also, hire a damn QB coach!
New offensive coordinator hate to say it possibly a new o line coach. It’s been 4 years since we have had a line that was worth the praise bill gets. New running backs coach. Keep Jackson on the bench and a strength and conditioning program that will allow our guys to improve and develop to a point where we aren’t losing 5 guys a week to injury
@@jordandozier9998 yeah but at some point the qb has to make throws to punish the d for stacking the box and sending more guys than you can block. If you can't show them you can make quick reads and hit the wr with an accurate ball they are just going to keep coming .
Seth was brought in because he has a relationship not only with the University of Oklahoma but Jackson Arnold. They thought that with a five-star quarterback and at least a halfway decent offensive line that they could be successful. Turns out the offensive line is not even that good. So pretty much the whole plan on offense has been blown up.
What’s crazy is I was hearing that Hawkins was better all throughout the off season and sure enough… I just think JA is built for a solid experienced oline where he has time all the time in the world.
From the start of the game, we lost the battle for field position. We drive the bottle midfield go forward on fourth and two and don’t get it. That puts our defense against the wall to start the game which they played outstanding. Three and out for Tennessee they pun, pun it again. Tennessee has the ball midfield. That’s a disastrous start given a short field to play. Our defense is outstanding and if Hawkins Jr. Start quarterback we win that game.
Ultimately, it is BV's responsibility to identify the pretenders, QB and OC. "We got to get better." Sure, BV is a great defensive mind, but if he couldn't identify the problems with the offence months ago, the fan base is going to be wearing paper bags on their heads by the end of this season.
It doesn't matter who the QB is, if the offensive line can't open holes for a running game or stop a pass rush they are going to struggle and we are going to lose games.
Sad for Kendell Dobly God's speed in his recovery .Jackson has not progressed at all passes I front and behind receivers , but the offensive coaches didn't help at all
Without blocking you pretty much are done. put 3 turnovers on top of that and a quarterback moving slower than the game not a recipe for success. As fast as these defenses have become you have 3 seconds at most to make a decision,
Two straight years of not recruiting OLinemen, add in we lost like four to the NFL declaring early, then the injuries. It's the culmination of all the bad things the last three or four years.
Arnold can't read the defense. He keeps making the wrong decision over and over again. RPO and hands the ball off when he could of ran to the outside for a easy TD. Barnes could of walked in the end zone if JA pitched it to him. JA keeps the ball and runs into the defense wall and fumbles the ball. 14 points lost by Arnold's bad decisions.
@@soonerintheblueoasis1937 You sound foolish really . Do you know they average over 300 yards rushing per game ? No you don't . I saw the Sooner defense playing real football . Niko was under pressure all night so he had to stay balanced you should remain quiet idiot .
@@soonerintheblueoasis1937no, he didn’t want to increase the chance of his young quarterback making a mistake and getting picked. He knows how good of a safety Billy Bowman is. . .
Have more chapter than to have players fake injuries to slow down offenses. Just because a rule exists to protect players. Doesn’t mean it’s not wrong to use it to your advantage. Karma will play out for that kind of bad acting.
Worst offense I have seen since the John Blake era. Not acceptable at OU. BV you need to put that whole offensive staff on notice or you yourself may end up on the hotseat.
The great coaches fixes shit and the ones lacking toil in mediocrity. Ou is mediocre and has been for 3 years. This thing should be fixed by now. Can’t blame muleshoe forever. VB is not a head coach
Ya know when your players fake injuries it’s a direct connection to your coach. Players soft…. Coach soft! Good luck on your loosing year. Welcome to the SEC!
@@cameronmiller7980 Dillion Gabriel was going to leave no matter what. Tell me that defense don't look good, so Venables is doing his job. The problem is that the game is to big for the starting quarterback and the backup Hawkins is better under pressure.
BV is over his head; he is clueless and confused. OU=IRRELEVANT sorry to say. Expect nothing from BV and OU football, they are not capable, they try hard but aren't talented or smart enough to compete with most SEC schools. 6-6 team with some luck.
Prayers for Kendel Dolby. We’re with you bro.
Defense did all they could do..if the offense was average this game is winnable
I'm going to throw one more comment in here also for a sooner fan and a loss I am so proud of this team for not giving up we fought the entire game and in the past that didn't happen.
@@MrTmtaylor64 We need more fans like you. Great attitude! I feel the same way!
Vol here. Your defense is legit. Great game. Welcome to the SEC.
I LOVE Coach V and I'm a fan of Jackson Arnold but I think Coach V is being FARRR to generous to JA's performances. He said "Jackson forced things and he doesn't really do that." but in the last game, he forced a pass that resulted in a pick 6. I mean how many points has JA caused us in turnovers. It's a real problem now, 4 games in and if you look back to the Alamo Bowl there's more. This is a VERY disturbing trend in JA's performances and it seems that Hawkins deserves a chance to start.
Oklahoma is a better football team with Hawkins Jr on the field. He gives OU the best chance at winning.
Facts
Comment of the season…..”yeah, we don’t have any backwards RPOs”
Thank God we finally benched Arnold! He was Spencer Rattler 2.0 if not worse! He doesn’t see the field, makes terrible throws, and when he does throw it’s in coverage. Hawkins is the better QB. He should have been benched awhile ago but wasn’t because of his high rating coming out of high school
the offensive line is the problem you'll see next week
@@AD-oy8nm I’m not saying that aren’t a problem but Arnold is a bigger problem. Hawkins will be better
hes not as bad as spencer rattler give him a break hes a young kid go back and watch young jason white, young landry jones, old nate hybl lol, bomar lol, paul thompson I could go on and on. JA needs to be more confident he is nervous out there.
@@barryschultz4947 Rattler was putting up points and more than 150 yards a game. That’s just embarrassing. Seriously go look at the stats
@@barryschultz4947 this is part of the problem, we let the kids play through their mistakes. if you start pulling people b/c of one bad play or one bad game you will never build a championship program. i don't even know if OU should have that as a goal anymore.
First off, I'd like to say that I walked out the room, and said a prayer for that kid that injured his lower leg. My prayers are that the our lord God helps that kid recover in a timely manner! Second, I'd like to say, welcome to the SEC, OU! You guys are going to be a tough out for anyone this and especially next year, and that new QB you put in is a DUDE! That kid has that dawg in him!!!
Just so you know we are winning next week at Auburn. If we pick the right QB to start the game. Defense is solid. Tennessee averaged 55 ppg and over 600 ypg on offense, we held them to 25 points and 355 total yards. Thats just me being positive, because it wasn't really a blowout. Venables is not going anywhere and for those complaining about the coaching. He just got a 4 year extension. So suck it up we have seen better in some areas, but we have also seen worse.
yall forget the 3 starting ol are out and the nuumber 1234 wr are also injured
I don’t think anyone has forgotten that.
in jackson arnolds defense there were lots of breakdowns blocking, no run game and than he had drops like when he escaped a sack and 10 dropped what should have been a first down. They got to match the offense to what your QB can do. Hawkins has more quickness and was able to escape the pressure better, jackson has a tendency to duck his head down under pressure and then its over.
Jackson Arnold is Dean Blevins 2.0. Only the older sooner fans will understand this comment
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The defense has that dawg in them for sure. 100% effort all the way to the end. I’m not a coach but no means but if we do a bunch of quick pass plays and quit dropping back 7 yards and scanning the field we will do much better.
With the injuries, inexperience, and trouble the line has had blocking, Hawkins gives the team a better chance at being successful with his athletic ability. He also looked like he had a better feel for the game. Herbie said it on the telecast, “that’s your QB”
BV has to take ownership and make decisions about the Offense. Hawkins has to be QB1 and Littrell must be on the shortest leash in history. Also, hire a damn QB coach!
New offensive coordinator hate to say it possibly a new o line coach. It’s been 4 years since we have had a line that was worth the praise bill gets. New running backs coach. Keep Jackson on the bench and a strength and conditioning program that will allow our guys to improve and develop to a point where we aren’t losing 5 guys a week to injury
Tennessee fan Don’t mess with Bobby Hill and Rocky top
@@jordandozier9998 yeah but at some point the qb has to make throws to punish the d for stacking the box and sending more guys than you can block. If you can't show them you can make quick reads and hit the wr with an accurate ball they are just going to keep coming .
Hawk is the guy. Period.
Seth was brought in because he has a relationship not only with the University of Oklahoma but Jackson Arnold. They thought that with a five-star quarterback and at least a halfway decent offensive line that they could be successful. Turns out the offensive line is not even that good. So pretty much the whole plan on offense has been blown up.
Man thought we had are qb but I doubtful we never had nobody figured it out this spring or all summer that we need it better quarterback play
Never buy the hype it rarely ever is true. See Spencer Rattler.
I think behind a good line Jackson is much better.
What’s crazy is I was hearing that Hawkins was better all throughout the off season and sure enough… I just think JA is built for a solid experienced oline where he has time all the time in the world.
From the start of the game, we lost the battle for field position. We drive the bottle midfield go forward on fourth and two and don’t get it. That puts our defense against the wall to start the game which they played outstanding. Three and out for Tennessee they pun, pun it again. Tennessee has the ball midfield. That’s a disastrous start given a short field to play. Our defense is outstanding and if Hawkins Jr. Start quarterback we win that game.
JA owes the program an NIL refund. Love coach V. Feeling his anger and frustration.
Ultimately, it is BV's responsibility to identify the pretenders, QB and OC. "We got to get better." Sure, BV is a great defensive mind, but if he couldn't identify the problems with the offence months ago, the fan base is going to be wearing paper bags on their heads by the end of this season.
He can’t make the best o-linemen and the best receivers healthy. . . neither Hawkins or Arnold can make up for the lack in those categories.
It doesn't matter who the QB is, if the offensive line can't open holes for a running game or stop a pass rush they are going to struggle and we are going to lose games.
Same offensive line and a qb coming off the bench scored two touchdowns in 2nd half.
@@flyovernews22 but they still couldn't run the ball and continued to get pressure on the qb.
@@flyovernews22 also they had no tape on Hawkins.
Sad for Kendell Dobly God's speed in his recovery .Jackson has not progressed at all passes I front and behind receivers , but the offensive coaches didn't help at all
Hawkins is the answer...........Should have been in spring......
Could we please bring back the WISH BONE offense!
or Barry switzer
@@jasonpendleton3822 for sure
My giva shit is busted brent
Brent‘Forrest Gump’ Venables-LMAO. Please give him an extension
How has the offense been allowed to be this bad? Did no one see this coming?
Without blocking you pretty much are done. put 3 turnovers on top of that and a quarterback moving slower than the game not a recipe for success. As fast as these defenses have become you have 3 seconds at most to make a decision,
Two straight years of not recruiting OLinemen, add in we lost like four to the NFL declaring early, then the injuries. It's the culmination of all the bad things the last three or four years.
Nice guy Not a head coach
Arnold can't read the defense. He keeps making the wrong decision over and over again. RPO and hands the ball off when he could of ran to the outside for a easy TD. Barnes could of walked in the end zone if JA pitched it to him. JA keeps the ball and runs into the defense wall and fumbles the ball. 14 points lost by Arnold's bad decisions.
The offense is utter garbage!!
Completely disappointing…
Especially with an elite defense finally.
Heart breaking!
Recruiting promises have gotten more than one coach fired,
Most conservative play calling by heupel ever. OU defense is legit. Go vols
It was not conservatie he knew he was playing a tough defense do you think he could throw it 40 times on OU defense
I agree. He didn't want to embarrass us.
We will know more next week.
The rest of the SEC will want to hammer us.
@@soonerintheblueoasis1937 You sound foolish really . Do you know they average over 300 yards rushing per game ? No you don't . I saw the Sooner defense playing real football . Niko was under pressure all night so he had to stay balanced you should remain quiet idiot .
@@soonerintheblueoasis1937 The rest of the SEC is not built like Tennessee . I think you fall for the propaganda . Sad
@@soonerintheblueoasis1937no, he didn’t want to increase the chance of his young quarterback making a mistake and getting picked. He knows how good of a safety Billy Bowman is. . .
This offense has no identity thru 4 weeks
Offensive line play is atrocious. Need same line play in multiple games.
Arnold Jackson for HeisNOTman !!!
Arnold Jackson for HeisNOTman !!!
Arnold Jackson for HeisNOTman !!!
Have more chapter than to have players fake injuries to slow down offenses. Just because a rule exists to protect players. Doesn’t mean it’s not wrong to use it to your advantage. Karma will play out for that kind of bad acting.
Worst offense I have seen since the John Blake era. Not acceptable at OU. BV you need to put that whole offensive staff on notice or you yourself may end up on the hotseat.
We have up Gabe for this..,. horrible
Gave
@@richardyoung2652 Sober up..
The great coaches fixes shit and the ones lacking toil in mediocrity. Ou is mediocre and has been for 3 years. This thing should be fixed by now. Can’t blame muleshoe forever. VB is not a head coach
5 stars should perform,also coaches paid $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ should perform.
Keep JA out hes not it. He cost us a winnable game 😅
Ya know when your players fake injuries it’s a direct connection to your coach. Players soft…. Coach soft! Good luck on your loosing year. Welcome to the SEC!
OU continues to miss on recruiting QB.
I also think the qb room and offense as a whole are absolutely not being coached correctly
Can we get Gabriel back? This is the 4th week of pathetic play...
LOL..
We got Hawkins...
First strike on Vegetables was when he chose the Jackson over Gabriel who carried them last year.
@@cameronmiller7980 This is just dumb...
@@cameronmiller7980 Dillion Gabriel was going to leave no matter what. Tell me that defense don't look good, so Venables is doing his job. The problem is that the game is to big for the starting quarterback and the backup Hawkins is better under pressure.
BV is over his head; he is clueless and confused. OU=IRRELEVANT sorry to say. Expect nothing from BV and OU football, they are not capable, they try hard but aren't talented or smart enough to compete with most SEC schools. 6-6 team with some luck.
Venables is not bright. So Joe C will have to force him to fire Seth. It won't matter, Venables will be fired after the 2025 season.
Seth LiFail better be fired after this year. I thought Jeff Lebby was pathetic
Fire him now and lets get started moving forward
OC should have been Cale Gundy’s job
those who say BV is not bright, are not bright.
those who say BV is not bright, are not bright.