There isn’t much out there on Whitehead especially something insightful and coming from a thoroughly digested understanding , so this is really valuable, 5 stars , thank you very much
Footnotes2Plato - - I've been a subscriber to your channel for a while - not sure how I missed all your vids on Whitehead - really looking forward to mining them. What insight! - to look behind the veil that science presented as reality - Whitehead was ahead of his time! - reminds me of the virtual reality theorists of our time. It's interesting how Wittgenstein, Heidegger and Whitehead all arrived at the same hunch - that philosophy had gotten terribly off-track (due to Descartes and misuse of language, etc.) and yet developed very different systems to "get philosophy back on track", so to speak.
This is freaking brilliant. I just bought The White Goddess and I've got my fingers crossed, hoping I'll be able to understand it. As with anything written by a great thinker, it helps to be familiar with everything that's ever been written by everyone who's ever lived, and I am sorely lacking in that department. I'm already struggling in the Foreword. Had to skip the introduction because whoever wrote it just wouldn't shut up.
Heard of Alf decades ago from a Terence McKenna talk. Now I see why Alf appealed to TM. It appears that whatever seekers seek in reading philosophy, it can't be obtained merely through language. ------stan sayin? >
Not sure if this was explained in the video but I’m unsure of how the subjective form and eternal objects interact? Does the subjective form come prior to the eternal objects? Is there an order in which this is happening? Any help grasping this would be much appreciated!
Hi Matt. From my very primitive understanding through this and other videos on the channel, I think there are two aspects to your question. The subjective nature of a finite creature comes from prehension and satisfaction. Eternal objects or realm of possibilities exist in creativity and are suggested to finite creatures through the ordering channel of God. The ordering or value suggested by God is used to infer a meaning and act by the finite creature, God feels the decision made by creatures as they achieve satisfaction. To summarize, subjective form and eternal objects are temporally related in the following way. In every occasion you first have the physical pole of finite creature and mental pole of God (prehension & eternal objects), and consequently mental pole of finite creature and physical pole of God (satisfaction & feeling the effect of decisions). This is explained around 47-53 minutes in the video. Hope this helps.
The Big Bang is a great analogy to the ignition of consciousness in each and every one of us. The moment the sperm meets the egg.....there is an explosion of consciousness that sent you to read this now.
Physics of the World Soul, maybe? I just wonder, because that book was published before this video was. Just want to make sure it has the same information.
I’ve got a couple of books on Whitehead and many articles/chapters, but nothing quite like a general life and works essay. footnotes2plato.com/philosophical-essays/
Iian McGilchrist books have helped me a lot. Do you know him? I love listening to you. Thank you again. Alfred North Whitehead: A general definition of civilization: a civilized society is exhibiting the fine qualities of truth, beauty, adventure, art, and peace. The most well- informed man is the most useless bore on God's earth.
at least at that time, the colleges required retirement after 25 years. but his biographer reports that just before he would've been pushed into retirement, he resigned in protest on behalf of a friend and fellow don who had been fired by Cambridge for some sort of affair.
I don't know about Whiteheadean perspective on this, but intuitively more alternatives imply more perspectives for measurement, and more levels in a hierarchy or components in an assembly which can be seen as a measure of complexity.
I don't particularly enjoy hearing american spoken english,but this person,Matthew Segall, is doing a real service in making available Whitehead's thought to the less educated,as Whitehead's language -new as he had to express new philosophical concepts - in a way breaks down the usual neural pathways.
Any certain difference between the word of continuum and the word of continuity in Whiteheads cosmology? For example he says: "Continuity concerns what is potential; whereas actuality is incurably atomic" (Process and Reality, 1978: page: 61). İf ı am correct, he is not expressing his own opinion here. He is exposing a persistent error in Western thought. But why continuity?
I want to like Whitehead but isn't it slightly concerning that he uses such difficult language to explain reality? I want to believe things can be said plainly. It seems like complicated language usually means ideas aren't flushed out or the writer is intentionally being vague to cast a wider net of approval from different interpretations...
Central to Whitehead is that reifying abstractions/words is one aspect of the fallacy of misplaced concreteness. Words are necessarily abstract signifiers for an underlying reality based on process.There is no way to reconcile that with what you want to be the case.
Hi. Re 18:20 IMHO there are several isotopes of hydrogen. Check out the percent abundance of each, that data is readily available. Protium, deuterium, and tritium are common names for the 0,1, and 2 neutron isotopes. Other isotopes of hydrogen are experimentally observed and don’t last long.
Dude the beauty of this video is tarnished by the fact that your microphone picks up on your mouth noises that arent talking (lip smacking, swallowing, saliva, ex 37:40 ). So gross, but the content is so good, GAAAAAH. Please for the love of god adjust the audio i beg you. I have subbed in anticipation!
You misrepresent whitehead on God. Creativity is the primordial process according to whitehead. God is an outcome of this process (for Whitehead) and this God is more like Parabrahman of Dharmic systems, not the personal God of Christianity.
There isn’t much out there on Whitehead especially something insightful and coming from a thoroughly digested understanding , so this is really valuable, 5 stars , thank you very much
This video has me excited to engage with Whitehead’s ideas on a deeper level. You are an excellent speaker.
What a pleasant surprise! Thank you, Matt.
Footnotes2Plato - - I've been a subscriber to your channel for a while - not sure how I missed all your vids on Whitehead - really looking forward to mining them. What insight! - to look behind the veil that science presented as reality - Whitehead was ahead of his time! - reminds me of the virtual reality theorists of our time. It's interesting how Wittgenstein, Heidegger and Whitehead all arrived at the same hunch - that philosophy had gotten terribly off-track (due to Descartes and misuse of language, etc.) and yet developed very different systems to "get philosophy back on track", so to speak.
Insightful introduction ! Thank you !
Excellent talk. I think I've found my connection to Whitehead now.
A most vivifying perspective. Should be taught in concurrence with science at high school.
I am a researcher in education, and I'm planning my PhD on precisely this
In love with your content Matt, thanks for your awesome continued work
LOVED THIS LECTURE
Thank you!
This is freaking brilliant. I just bought The White Goddess and I've got my fingers crossed, hoping I'll be able to understand it. As with anything written by a great thinker, it helps to be familiar with everything that's ever been written by everyone who's ever lived, and I am sorely lacking in that department. I'm already struggling in the Foreword. Had to skip the introduction because whoever wrote it just wouldn't shut up.
Shadows reveal the source of lightness.
🌜❤️🔥🌛
What can be the implications of A. N. Whitehead's process philosophy to complexity system?
Heard of Alf decades ago from a Terence McKenna talk. Now I see why Alf appealed to TM.
It appears that whatever seekers seek in reading philosophy, it can't be obtained merely through language.
------stan sayin?
>
Not sure if this was explained in the video but I’m unsure of how the subjective form and eternal objects interact? Does the subjective form come prior to the eternal objects? Is there an order in which this is happening?
Any help grasping this would be much appreciated!
Hi Matt. From my very primitive understanding through this and other videos on the channel, I think there are two aspects to your question. The subjective nature of a finite creature comes from prehension and satisfaction. Eternal objects or realm of possibilities exist in creativity and are suggested to finite creatures through the ordering channel of God. The ordering or value suggested by God is used to infer a meaning and act by the finite creature, God feels the decision made by creatures as they achieve satisfaction.
To summarize, subjective form and eternal objects are temporally related in the following way. In every occasion you first have the physical pole of finite creature and mental pole of God (prehension & eternal objects), and consequently mental pole of finite creature and physical pole of God (satisfaction & feeling the effect of decisions).
This is explained around 47-53 minutes in the video. Hope this helps.
Not sure if I'll watch it before the European Union is dissolved, but it's good that concepts are available of what to do afterwards...
Btw I’m curious what you think of neoplatonism, and Plotinus in particular if you’ve read him?
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@@Footnotes2Plato Oh wow, from 5 days ago. What a coincidence.
The Big Bang is a great analogy to the ignition of consciousness in each and every one of us.
The moment the sperm meets the egg.....there is an explosion of consciousness that sent you to read this now.
Whitehead is like a paradoxical but parallel type of storyline to Clive Lewis ' Shadowlands Surprised by "Joy"
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bro your videos are great just get the pacing down better. It sounds like you are just freestlying and not reading a script
which is even better imo!
Have you put all this in a paper that can be downloaded online ... or maybe a book?
Physics of the World Soul, maybe? I just wonder, because that book was published before this video was. Just want to make sure it has the same information.
I’ve got a couple of books on Whitehead and many articles/chapters, but nothing quite like a general life and works essay. footnotes2plato.com/philosophical-essays/
Iian McGilchrist books have helped me a lot. Do you know him? I love listening to you.
Thank you again.
Alfred North Whitehead:
A general definition of civilization: a civilized society is exhibiting the fine qualities of truth, beauty, adventure, art, and peace.
The most well- informed man is the most useless bore on God's earth.
Why did Whitehead leave Cambridge?
at least at that time, the colleges required retirement after 25 years. but his biographer reports that just before he would've been pushed into retirement, he resigned in protest on behalf of a friend and fellow don who had been fired by Cambridge for some sort of affair.
How does complexity translate into the ability to ingress alternatives?
I don't know about Whiteheadean perspective on this, but intuitively more alternatives imply more perspectives for measurement, and more levels in a hierarchy or components in an assembly which can be seen as a measure of complexity.
I don't particularly enjoy hearing american spoken english,but this person,Matthew Segall, is doing a real service in making available Whitehead's thought to the less educated,as Whitehead's language -new as he had to express new philosophical concepts - in a way breaks down the usual neural pathways.
Any certain difference between the word of continuum and the word of continuity in Whiteheads cosmology? For example he says: "Continuity concerns what is potential; whereas actuality is incurably atomic" (Process and Reality, 1978: page: 61). İf ı am correct, he is not expressing his own opinion here. He is exposing a persistent error in Western thought. But why continuity?
I want to like Whitehead but isn't it slightly concerning that he uses such difficult language to explain reality? I want to believe things can be said plainly. It seems like complicated language usually means ideas aren't flushed out or the writer is intentionally being vague to cast a wider net of approval from different interpretations...
Central to Whitehead is that reifying abstractions/words is one aspect of the fallacy of misplaced concreteness. Words are necessarily abstract signifiers for an underlying reality based on process.There is no way to reconcile that with what you want to be the case.
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I've become an insufferable process thought advocate. I always start by pointing friends to this singular talk.
At 18:20 foll. The hydrogen atom does not contain any neutron. It consists solely of one proton and one electron.
duh, whoops
Hi. Re 18:20 IMHO there are several isotopes of hydrogen. Check out the percent abundance of each, that data is readily available. Protium, deuterium, and tritium are common names for the 0,1, and 2 neutron isotopes. Other isotopes of hydrogen are experimentally observed and don’t last long.
Dude the beauty of this video is tarnished by the fact that your microphone picks up on your mouth noises that arent talking (lip smacking, swallowing, saliva, ex 37:40 ). So gross, but the content is so good, GAAAAAH. Please for the love of god adjust the audio i beg you. I have subbed in anticipation!
Tried another video on Whitehead thatwas insufferable. This was wo n..derful .enjoyed the t ckenna reference in the comments.
You misrepresent whitehead on God. Creativity is the primordial process according to whitehead. God is an outcome of this process (for Whitehead) and this God is more like Parabrahman of Dharmic systems, not the personal God of Christianity.