Springfield Armory MC Operator 1911 Generation 1 review (Marine Corps Operator). Bad ASS!
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- No I am not an expert nor do I claim to be one. Just a regular Joe giving my honest feedback. @SpringfieldArmoryInc
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MGS4 Operator. The main reason why i've always wanted one.
Great review and that helps me understand more about the 1911. I bought a Springfield Garrison 1911 9mm and fell in love with the way it shoots and than I purchased the same in the 45ACP and they are both fantastic handguns. Than I ordered me a Springfield Operator 45ACP and I can't wait to get it in and shoot it, three more days.
Your presentation/delivery gets better with every video. You have a well-deserved audience and I’ll be happy to see it grow.
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I Didnt Know They Had 3 Gens. I Just Purchased What Deacribed As The Gen 2. Can't Wait To Take It To The Range. Thanks For The Informative Video. Learned Something New Today
Ilol😂 you say you don't want to bash Kimber. You don't have to my friend. I'll do it for you. Kimber Sucks. I had 2 of them and they spent more time going back and forth for repairs than any other weapon I ever had in my 40yrs of handling pistols since I was 16. You are much better off with the Springfield. I have a 2cd Gen MC Operator that I bought new in 2011. It's among my favorite 1911 I've ever owned. I have seven 1911 pistols and the MC is among the favorite of anyone I allow to shoot it. I try my best to talk anyone I can out of getting a Kimber. I've had Springfield guns for many years and anyone who decides to get the MC, you won't be disappointed
HAHA. I mean it is what it is 😂😅
Hard agree, my last 1911 purchase was the kimber rapide black ice 10mm. Couldn't even get through three magazines after proper cleaning and lube. Even with Wilson mags! I certainly wouldn't have thought I would have had to send back a 1700 dollar pistol after only owning it a few weeks 😂
I'll join the conversation in bashing Kimber 1911's. They're good for only one thing, use as paperweights. I've also got a second-generation Springfield MC Operator. It's my EDC pistol and the most accurate 1911 I've ever owned.
I eventually had to take my Kimber to a 1911 gunsmith to get it to run reliably. What a piece of garbage. Springfields for me. My TRP Classic is my favorite handgun.
A fantastic gun. I have worked on many of them, so I've had a detailed look under the skirt.
I am not worthy
@@JoeFromTheAfternoonhahaha
You dirty dirty boy
Got mine before the pandemic came with a factory installed RMR so badass
My MC Operator is a 2nd gen. No checkering on the front strap, and does have a Butler cut. I added a TRP magwell to mine. I also put VZ grips on mine to replace the rubber grips.
The big reason the MC Operator is a big hit is because it's still on the California roster. So you can sell it to someone in California for a premium but elsewhere it's just a typical Operator that's not really a premium item unless someone is interested in the whole "Marine" aspect of it.
Nice piece. Ever since I got the 4.25 prodigy I've been looking at all of the 1911 models Springfield makes now. They seem to make decent 1911 models. In my opinion for the price. Great video.
Had Jarvis install a threaded barrel on my MC Full Operator, now a TiRant45m lives on it.
a match made in heaven, favorite of my collection
Your Information is INCORRECT the Springfield MC Operator Gen 1 was out back in the early 2000 and it was made to the Specifications of the ORIGINAL MEU-SOC Pistol but with the addition of a accessory Rail for a Weaponlight. During this time Individual Commands were Purchasing their 1911s from Springfield Armory and depending how much money they had the Commands were Ordering Springfield Professional(FBI HRT 1911 w/Rail which was a Special ORDER ITEM), TRP Operator Full Length Rail or TRP Operator and MC Operator. The majority of the East Coast Units were getting Springfield but a couple of the West Coast MEU-SOC Commands were approached by Kimber with an offer to receive EXTREMELY DISCOUNTED Kimber Desert Warrior for their upcoming Deployments. The deal was that the MEU-SOC Units would get the pistols and Kimber would be able to use the MEU-SOC Patches and Unit names in the Marketing of the Desert Warrior 1911 Pistol. The Deal was done and the Units received the pistols and Kimber Launched an All OUT Marketing Campaign Advertising how their pistol is Grunt Proof, well there was a problem with that because before a MEU SOC Unit goes on Deployment they do allot of shooting to make sure that weapons are sighted in and working properly well the Kimber pistols DIED about half way through the Workup to Deployment and East Coast Units had to FEDEX a BUNCH of Pistol Cross Country so the West Coast Marines could deploy on time. This is the Reason the Advertising Campaign that Kimber Launched was Pulled Out very QUICKLY and now days it is just a footnote of firearms history.
Because of the Kimber issue BIG MARINE decided that is was time to STANDARIZE the 1911 that US Marines Carried into Combat and a Test was scheduled. The Finalist were Colt and Springfield Armory with their Gen 3 MC Operator but because of POLITICAL BS Colt Won the Contract even though that the Springfield Pistol had the front strap textured so there was no need for tape or Pachmayr grips anymore and was slightly more accurate than the Colt.
Colt M45 have had all sort of issues from the Finish flaking off, Frames Cracking from having 5-6K rounds thru them and issue with the barrel not being as Accurate as the Specification Required but because the then CEO of Colt was a Former USMC Lt. General and the board that was making the decision to whom to give the contract to for the M45 were Old Buddies to Lt. Gen. Key. The majority of the Marines that I know have told me that the M45 was a bad decision and the MC Operator should be the one in their holsters.
Colt is not the company it used to be 40 years ago when they manufactured everything that they put their name to but now days they subcontract everything and it is very had to know where their parts are coming from.
I used to have a Gen 1 MC Operator that I loved and after a while I swapped out the MIM parts for Tool Steel so all my Fire Control was replaced with a Nowlin Arms Commander Action Kit that put the Trigger pull at 4.5 LBS but when my nephew graduated Flight School in Pensacola Florida last fall I gave it to him as Graduation gift because I knew that he has always liked that pistol.
My research and previous knowledge of the MC Operator point to the fact that this gun was used in the 1911 trials in 2010. Many state that the initial intent of the Operator design was to compete as the sidearm of the Marine Special Operations Unit (MEUSOC). Such as this article, and many others: www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/06/17/springfield-armory-marine-mc-operator-1911-review/
However if you peel back the layer a bit more you find that you are in fact CORRECT! From what I can gather, the earliest I can trace the MC Operator to is 2007 and it was had been sold to the Corps in small quantities before:
web.archive.org/web/20110128211947/www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2011/01/marine-marsoc-pistol-45cal-012511w/
It’s interesting you state the Gen 3 was used in the trials because the official release for Gen 3 was in 2015. So it would seem the had that variant much earlier than when the public got it.
Great info! I will do an update video with clarification in the future.
@@JoeFromTheAfternoon Thank you! I was in the US NAVY and had many friend that were Marines that I trained with during my time in that I still keep in touch with and a couple of them that used to be Instructors at both Advanced Infantry and Fleet Anti-Terrorism Security Team were involved in the Testing of the M45 1911 Pistol Candidates because of their vast combat experience and knowledge of what the Operators would need in the Field. I wish the hard drive on my old laptop had not crashed because I had some videos that they send me at the time and were scrubbed from so they would not come back on them.
I am very sorry that Springfield Armory eliminated the Gen 3 MC Operator with ZigZag front strap Texture which is a very weird but solid giving grip to the 1911 I have a couple of buddies that have the Gen 3 MC and Vickers Tactical Master Class pistol since they both shared the same textured front strap. I had the Gen 3 on my list to get but now that is going to move on getting the Vickers ASAP before they discontinue that model too.
After watching this, I now know that my MC Operator is a generation 2 with the Butler cut. Very informative review.
It's good to have you back!
Welcome back! Nice looking 1911. I have a Garrison and love shooting that 1911. Springfield in my opinion, does a really nice job for the money. And F Beretta boys.
Awesome I've been trying to find pictures of one with wood grips, been debating between between getting the MC Operator or the Operator models, great video.
Very good review/ comparison I'm buying the tisas raider I'm not paying thousands for the colt.
I was hot for one of these, for the longest time.. never ended up with one, but do have other cool 1911's. Love your channel
Bro I love how your videos always has 1911 with rails love 1911 with rails great vids keep it up !
You have an colt m45a1 ? Cause it’s a really good gun
Railed 1911’s are my thing. Some hate them. I happen to love them. I used to have a M45A1. A decom variant. No longer though…..RAGERTS
I used to have one of those gray trp’s. I let it go and got a colt comabt unit 45. It’s at nighthawk now getting accurized and the frame done in gray. I have a Springfield mil spec now. May get a trp again later on or an mc operator. I love the od green or gray frame on a 1911. Or even all gray looks nice.
I’ve had the Colt M45A1, Colt Combat Unit, and Colt Rail Gun. All good guns. I bet your Colt CC is going to turn out phenomenal. NHC is fantastic at what they do
@@JoeFromTheAfternoon it’ll be my first worked on by a custom shop so I hope so. I forgot to add it’ll have a trigger job with their internals, medium length black solid trigger, their bushing and plug, slid and frame tightened. I’ll have to make. Short video on it. I hardly make videos anymore. I had tons of reloading stuff youtube removed years ago and struck me for so I just took everything down except short clips.
What grips are those? After finding your video I really am interested in these.
It sounds and looks like I just ordered a Gen 2 MC Operator. hmmm I did like the grips, so I guess I'm still winning. lol
I had a Gen 3. Really liked it but it got sacrificed as I climbed the ladder into more expensive guns. I like the brown grips on it. Gives it a different look. I feel like these are every bit as nice as the TRP.
Those grips are beautiful
Have a gen 2 that was the base for my rust bucket project. Ball cuts line up better than a WC.
After watching this video. I started to searched for a version 1 and came across the pistol in this video. 😮. Thought you would not sell it. 😂. I’m interested but at $1600 a bit pricey.
Found a Springfield Professional. It’s the pentacle. No need for this one
Never seen it with wood grips like that, i have the LBO and its a killer gun
Hello could you tell me the brand and specific color of those grips please?
alchemy1911.com/product/walnutgrips/
Great video. Nice Operator collection!
I have a friend who had one of these, gen 1. But the rail was super long. Had never seen one like that either before or after his.
That would be interesting to see for sure
Sweet video
They went with Colt because their new ceo was a retired marine.
That's pretty cool, I didn't know that they changed the cut on the frames. I knew that they changed the grips over to the G-10 VZ grips and they did what they called the "Octo" grip checkering to the front strap and mainspring housing. But I didn't know about the Butler cut on the rail. I do remember that the Marine Corps wanted the FBI's SWAT/HRT guns with the rail. I've got the Gen 3 MC Operator when they discontinued the Gen 2's and then they brought back the Gen 2's so I bought that one. I remember looking on Springfields website and it was taken off their website. So I figured that since I can't get the one I wanted I could get the other one. Then they came back out with the Gen 2's so I bought one of those too. I wanted to get 1 more of each, one to shoot and one to store. But they've discontinued them both..... They still make the Gen 2 CA Compliant. I did just pick up my Garrison 9mm and I've got a New 9mm Operator that I made kind of sort of a Det-1 MEUSOC pistol. Can't wait to pick that one up.
The 9mm Operator I hear is bad ass. Love the looks and cost. Glad you were able to find both Gen 2 and 3. That’s a nice pair to have for sure.
Great video. I am officially subscribed.
Delicious.
You have great taste in handguns. Springfield 1911's quality control is excellent.
I'm glad to see you are back. Good job standing up to dumb and dumber.
You said you had a dan wesson specalist before. I was considering that or this as my first 1911 and rail gun but I'm not sure which to go for. I may go custom later.
Both are great guns. Either way you won’t be disappointed I assure you. DW has slightly more features than this. Also comes with a variant that has a removable plate for mounting an optic so that’s a bonus.
Great video!
Have you put red dots on any of your 1911’s? I’ve been wanting to get one, but it seems red dot cuts aren’t too common (especially on sub $2k models). Interested to know, if you have, whether you got it from the factory with optic cut or got it done afterward.
The only 1911 style pistol I have a red dot on is my Staccato (2011). It came factory with the cut. I do know of plenty of people that have had their 1911’s cut post purchase. Some places that come to mind that will do it are Nighthawk Customs, C&H Precision Weapons, Vulcan Machine Works, Monsoon Tactical, Ronin Arms and many many more. Even on sub $2K 1911’s, it can be argued it’s worth getting it done. There’s gen 1 MC Op with an optic that I know of that looks damn good with it on.
@@JoeFromTheAfternoon Yeah I was considering the operator, or Tisas makes a raider which I've seen good reviews on (and it's cheap, so I wouldn't mind as much if something goes wrong with post-purchase optic cut). Thanks for the info! I enjoy the video style to show the guns.
@@TheRealStephenJ thank you for the compliment. There’s a new video out by @110sassactual8 in which he has an optic on his raider. Looks pretty bad ass and quite honestly I’m impressed with that gun!!
Would you happened to know what category does the Loaded Operator fall in to? I have the one with RMR Trijicon red dot and iron sights... it's pretty amazing, but not sure where it stands against the TRP since they all look a like
I’m not sure what you mean as far as what category. This video was about one particular model…the MC Operator. Can you elaborate?
@@JoeFromTheAfternoon oh yeah sure. So what I'm trying to figure out if the Operator loaded same as MC since they look a like. I know the TRP will say TRP on the slide but the operators just say operator regardless of being MC or Loaded. I just love mine and wanted to learn a bit more on how different or similar the Operator models are
@@salpanahi Ahhh. Got ya. So when Springfield uses loaded, it means the features that come with it: forged steel slide/frame, FCS, extended beaver tail safety, match grade barrel, ambi thumb safety, tritium 3 dot sights, 3 hole trigger. The MC Operator is actually within “Loaded” series as well. It’s just the MC Operator variant (i.e. green frame, Pachmayr grips or octagon checkering). So your loaded operator is the same gun but different cosmetics. Some loaded operators have aluminum frames making the LW (light weight) operators.
@@JoeFromTheAfternoon oh got it, very interesting, had no idea about any of that. Well thank you for all the info!
I got my MC operator last year that came with the pachmayr. So that means I haven’t seen the third gen yet. Because the ones I’m seeing today down at my local shops that are being sold is still gen 2. Even in the website is still showing gen 2. So where is the gen 3??
This is an older video. After the gen 3’s, they went back to the gen 2’s.
@@JoeFromTheAfternoon
Sounds to me like the gen 3 didn’t stay that long did it? And what are your thoughts on the Long Beach operator? Something I just learned today
@@samdequina3386it would seem that’s the case. The Long Beach is a good gun. It was basically a MC Operator but black frame and different grips. It was rarer and advertised as being LB police sidearm. Good gun for sure
I’ve got the same gun and same ka-bar.
What kind of light do you have on the accessory rail?
Surefire X300U-B or X300T-B
I located one but it says it's California complient. I'm not fully sure if the firearm itself is modified or is it just magazine thing.
Neither. It’s not modified or different in any way. It’s just marked that way for CA. Because CA gun laws are terrible. What are they asking?
They are asking 1299
@@supernamicthere’s definitely better pricing out there than that
@@JoeFromTheAfternoonyea I kinda figured, shop is probably taking a bit of advantage this particular model isn't as easy to come by. Are they really that far off though? It is brand new
@@supernamicnot hugely far off. I mean that’s probably MSRP but it’s not difficult to find anymore. There’s a guy near me selling his barely used on for 1K
Great vid, and thumbnail
Thanks joe from Ireland 🇮🇪 if I could own a handgun it would be a 1911 👍👍
First time I saw someone explain the different versions! I think version 1 is my favorite
Do they offer it in Commander size?
There’s a new TRP release that’s in 4.25 commander size.
www.springfield-armory.com/1911-series-handguns/1911-trp-2023-handguns/
That is snakes hand gun in mgs4
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I regret not getting the Gen 3 MC Operator before they were discontinued.I felt Springfield did not market the gun well enough and price point was a bit high always >$1k.I think a lot interested buyers chose TRP’s instead.
You can still find them every now and then. They pop up from time to time
The wood grips look better
Love the video
I’ve got the longslide trp 10mm I pack in a diamond d chest rig…handloads are 3grs shy of a 155 howitzer…took 2 whitetail with it
I go for the mil-spec 1911.
That’s a good gun right there
This is exactly what I want old school looking 1911 with light rail cocobolo grips in 9mm gorgeous does anyone know where you can get 9mm 1911 mag extensions Wilson Combat has them for the 45 I’m looking to take it from 10 rounds to 12?🧠🤯🔫
i think MC stands for MASTER CLASS
All dam u sold your first MC to fund a Wilson combat when you could have just gotten it Finance? Now u have a used MC that has no life time warranty cause you are not the original owner. I was going to say send it back to SA and let them do the upgrades like Magwell and that hex checkering u mentioned on the other MC and what ever else u wanted done just so u can KEEP YOUR LIFE TIME WARRANTY
I’d send to NHC for any work that needed to be done. Even if I had the warranty.
@@JoeFromTheAfternoon what!!!!! So u would just VOID the warranty like that even if you had it?
@@TheRealZJE313 I would yes. Nighthawk does work that I’m always satisfied with and improves on what comes stock. I don’t mind spending the money for better quality. Just my pref.
@@JoeFromTheAfternoon o ok
that gen 3 looks so ugly imo
Nice traitor pistol. Does a portion of every sale go to the Democratic party still?
Thank you 😊