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Definitely need to add this bit of kit to your studio! Love the science behind golf and seeing how all this data adds up. Only trouble is, you then need all this fancy tech or cheap easy access to keep measuring, otherwise it’s pure guess work until it truly beds in
Yes, I have. I used to have an extremely flat backswing that also went well beyond parallel at the top, even with a wedge in my hands. With lessons at GolfTec, I got my swing more on plane (was a VERY difficult change for me to take and took many lessons). I was also rotating my forearms on the takeaway, making the clubface really open, forcing me to rotate/flip at the bottom of the swing to slam the face shut. The results were blocks and hooks (and once in awhile a good shot). I went from a 14 handicap to a 3 when my lessons were complete. And I did this at the age of 62.
working on a change now. I have done some of this right arm work, and my body can do it, but it really messes with my already suspect strike. Mark, if you do this and do it successfully, you might well become a true long hitter.
This is much more interesting to me than trying to see how far you can hit it. I would like to see what this does to your ball striking in the interim and would be very interested to see multiple follow up lessons with these guys. Thanks
I know this is type of content is not for everyone, but I love it. TH-cam now has so much golf content: playing vlogs, reviews you name it. But I rarely see this technical info: gears, forces, angles. Mark you are the man to bring this forward. Would love to see a longer video/series on this topic, and also a way to compare with some of the best swings on tour. As someone who shoots in the mid 80s I dont think this will help me go lower, but I just enjoy this breakdown.
I love this. Fascinating. Please give it a go and track everything that happens along the way. Take us with you. I know I have to eventually address this in my swing as well, so seeing you do it first would be wonderful.
You are brilliant Mark! Never afraid of facing the path to improvement and explaining it. It is hard to change. Especially when you get older. This was really good.
Yes Mark. More of this content please. Watching someone who can make these required changes instantaneously and elegantly explain the swing thoughts is fascinating to watch
I rarely comment on TH-cam videos, but this one deserves a massive thank you. I am the player he talks about but know I can change it (and that the swing will be almost un-golfable while I do) but no one teaches this way that I've found and this helps with actually SEEING the change and the feeling it creates,
I think it is worth going down that road, Mark. Even if it ends up being a dead end you have introduced a part of the swing that many of us don't know or think about, and that could help someone out there. Your distance journey has given me ideas about my own swing and given me the confidence to try new positions or timing, but also giving it time to take effect. Rome wasn't built in a day etc...
Athletic Motion Golf are big users of Gears.Brilliant video,much more informative than most.Been working with the deWiz and setting a shorter backswing by keeping the hands further from the head has reduced the right elbow bend.Hard to work it out of the swing though !
I’ve been working with a TPI Certified coach for over 16 weeks now this year. I was struggling to hit 250 last season (had shoulder reconstruction 2.5 years ago and been a tough road with the shoulder) but last week I hit a drive 325. I’ve made massive changes. And each change has made me worse before better. I’m finally at a place where I feel comfortable with some of these changes. I was manufacturing side bend falsely and I’ve changed that to stay in posture. A lot of things were just physically impossible for me and I’ve worked hard to overcome those things. There are no short cuts. Just hard work, feeling weird, and a lot of worse then better. This was a great video!
That is going to be the case with approx 90% of people especially adults - they do not physically have the range of motion to hold that angle in a backswing - it has to be worked at for a good period of time. Like Mark most adult males will not have that external rotation of that shoulder unless it is worked on stretched - for at least a few months - but It will make a huge improvement if he does. Women on the other hand can externally rotate that shoulder fairly easily - you can often see that in women with long overswing in the backswing - they do not have the stability which is why you will see the club wobbling all over at the top when they go to transitioning towards the forward swing.
As someone that has had several gears sessions with Joe the coach in this video…I can agree entirely…a real eye opener and makes swing work and changes such a challenge but hugely informative and fun!
Hello Mark! Crazy enough, I just had a 20-minute lesson with a PGA pro at the PGA Championship at Oak Hill. His advice was for me to shallow the club. This was explained by dropping my arms and allowing the clubhead to drop more behind myself during my downswing. One thing he didn't mention was how to keep my right elbow more in front of my body versus alongside or behind myself. Once I figured this out, I was now able to allow the shaft to shallow naturally. Versus dropping of the arms and wrist to shallow. Dropping the left arm tight across my chest with a tight right elbow made it impossible to return to the ball without my right arm being blocked by my right hip. This technique that was shown in this lesson definitely allows the back to be turned more toward the target and allows my right elbow to be more naturally dropped infront of my body. I'll enjoy this journey if you decide to share. Take care, Mark!🙋♂️
Looks like the right thing to do. I’m a 12.5 handicap and have been noticing as I work on taking the club back in a bigger arch, I hit the ball with driver and iron a lot better and straighter. When I miss my shot I realize I’m taking the club back on a lot smaller arch, not feeling like I’m taking it back longer. I will work on what you are showing in your video. I think it lines up with what I’m see/feeling. Thank you
Absolutely love it. There is always something missing from seeing a very accomplished person hone a skill as opposed to seeing that person work on a dramatic new skill. Honing can be pleasing and hypnotic it its own right, but it can seem impossibly far off at times. I appreciate the sharing, thanks.
This was a top notch video I saw you getting a lesson and responding like anyone else… it doesn’t feel comfortable, but you see the data behind it and helps change someone’s mind. You have always always said that when you get lessons it should be with data, so it can be backed up. I would love to see another video like this!
There's something very unique about your current trend of videos. So much depth. I'm really enjoying them, (although I'll have to watch some more than once.)
Mark, as someone who is struggling to commit fully to swing changes this video was a lot of fun. I think it would say a lot for a skilled golf instructor to face a challenge like this. Hoping you take it on and give us all some motivation to stick with our own changes!
Fascinating video, regardless whats right or wrong we all have a swing unique to us all ,our comfort swing ! i find that whenever i have a lesson im ok for a few weeks then not by choice fall back into my comfort swing without realising it
When Im swinging my best Im mimicking Rory. He has kind of a "bounce" move that starts the downswing. Plus he says he tries to hit the ball with his right pocket which is the #1 best tip Ive ever gotten in golf.
I'm a right handed player, my last lesson I had with the Pro told me to keep my left arm straight and push the club away from the body in the back swing this helped to straighten the right arm, it works.
It was great meeting you there for the swing catalyst plates. I’ve been modifying my swing since returning and been battling not only my thoughts but also other people’s comments who have not seen the progress as the shots don’t go as well as they once did. So with swing changes and updating equipment I’ve gone from 230yards to 270yards with driver. Using gears now to help modify my body movements further and can’t wait to use this on the swing catalyst plates.
We're lucky to have had the first Gears3D installation in Canada and had a few goes at it and it was very enlightening! years of teachers ignoring the real problems and getting nowhere got discovered in one session! Now comes the hard part of actually fixing the issue though. For me it's less about speed and more about consistency. But I've already noticed pleasant side effects with both. Externally rotating my rear shoulder a lot more (think DJ backswing) and feeling a lot of width and turn in process. Looking forward to seeing more of your findings.
I think you should 100% give it a go it makes sense . If you've over bent that right arm you've got to regain that width on the downswing this will take you about the first 5 holes or so to time up . I'm going to work on it it i saw my swing on video and I'm doing the same thing and over extending the left wrist . Cheers Mark
Loving the direction this is going. Glad to know I'm not the only 1 who feels lost when attempting a change. Gears is amazing but let's see what helped you successfully make the change and hit better
Great video Mark, not something I’ve ever thought about with the many lessons I’ve had or anyone bringing that to my intention , something I will try next range session
I’m absolutely confident that you will take this info, work, and apply this with gains seen. It’s built into you to do better!! Absolutely no doubt you’ll adapt to this and smash it..!
Using the speedsticks over the last winter increased my right arm bend, because it was easier to pick up speed. When my friend pointed out that my clubhead was going quite a way past parallel I watched your video and checked and I was doing the same as you. Keeping the right arm straighter feels like I’m only swinging back halfway, it’s actually just short of parallel but it’s a lot more work. Starting the downswing without the benefit of the clubhead inertia is so weird and feels like I’m not going to generate any speed whatsoever. But… my path has improved considerably and I’m hitting a proper draw rather than pull, and ball flight is stronger even without the pull. I’ll definitely stick with it and work in it through the winter.
Love it! 7 hdcp working towards scratch. I had my first Gears session with AMG this year and it has totally changed my conceptual understanding of the golf swing. I’m going to stick with the challenge of changing it and hope that you do also!
Love it! This is the struggle, isn't it? Even someone, such as yourself, whom has loads of captured video content of your swing, can discover, or rediscover elements which may increase your abilities. Should you apply this changed to your swing? Absolutely. You can always return to a more 'safe' swing. Of course, change is hard. Unless your are Rory, or Adam Scott, (insert favorite swing here) we can all improve, if motivated. And, keep relearning. - I've found great value and relate strongly to your swing instruction. Thanks.
Great video Mark, I had lesson recently for the first time as an 11 handicapper the pro changed a lot, posture grip, takeaway it was totally away from my comfort zone, however persistence has prevailed and I can see it bearing fruit in my game. The takeaway has improves have increased ball speed and distance I know I just have to keep with the programme and develop the habit of doing what I have been thought all the times even with driver in hand.
Fascinating. Give it a go. I have also tried this path and run away for exactly the same reasons. I am curious to see what moves you have to change, and what the distance gains are.
Incredibly interesting!! Insight like this really makes you see why PGA level golfers are so good and hit it so far consistently.. I think hitting the gym to stretch that shoulder and tune the muscles that are needed to make the correct move is step 1. All the best
I can’t imagine giving Mark a lesson. I would be scared to tell him something wrong and he would shred me to pieces on TH-cam. Thanks to Mark for putting these videos out and a special thanks to these teaching pros for having the gull to be filmed.
Defintely go for it! I made that exact change this autumn, still working on that (and sequence). But can effortlessly swing now at the same speed and higher as before, with much more control. Will be fun to see your journey!
Please give it a go mark. You know you want to. Going down the athletic motion golf route with your oldschool streetwise knowledge of the golf youtube teaching game.
I first learned this idea from atheletic motion golf and a bunch of videos they've done with the gears system. I found I was able to work the idea in at the range quite well and it helped add speed, but out on the course I resort a bit more to the "comfortable" backswing
Great video Mark. I have been experimenting with the longer wider swing and have not been getting Rory results. I look forward to seeing your progress and comments
I have very poor shoulder external rotation so I’m happy to watch you discover without trying myself 😂. I used to try and feel this by lacing fingers together and then making straight armed backswings. Makes you realise just how much of a stretch has to happen in your upper body.
definitely give it a go :-) Two swing thoughts that I have used over the years which might help, a Davis Love one, get your hands further away from your head during the back swing, and secondly one that I think is generally more useful, focus on full and proper shoulder turn, and don't worry about how full the back swing gets/looks
this is exactly what my coach has me working on. And I knew exactly what Mark meant when he said that camera had better watch out. I felt like it made my swing steeper and I felt as though I may actually miss the ball. Need to work on it more for sure.
Cameron Young's swing is a GREAT example of this very idea and he's 3rd for Driving distance on the PGA Tour. It's awesome to see it be explained in such a way. Thanks Mark.
Hey Mark, very interesting video as always, love following you go down some rabbit holes through the years and I always love to go on this golf journey with you and get a deeper understandig of golf. The idea of this right arm really resonates with me and I somewhat found this out on my own a couple of months ago, that I am able to get more power from less arm bend and by the move that I can only describe as it's like I'm carrying a tray with my right hand when I am in the top of the backswing. That feeling gives me more elbow "turn" (don't know how else to describe it), less elbow bend and good wrist angles. Another side point here is that I always tried to improve my wrist angles only by putting effort into my left wrist bend, which was hard for me shomehow. Now I actually figured out that with this tray feeling, you're actually improving your left wrist bend by bending the right wrist, an "aha" moment for sure. Could you explain maybe someday how this could result in more power in the swing? This is something I still don't understand. I can feel it, but I don't understand it yet! Thanks for all you do! Kr, Ruben
Hello Mark. I found that exceptionally interesting. I will turn 65 later this year. As I age I am giving up distance. I am not in awful shape but could use some stretching and strengthening tips for the golf swing. I would love to see how this works out for you. I hope I can gleen something I might use in my own game.
Mark its great to see you keep expanding your horizons what is possible for yourself. My swing change that changed everything for my game was being to load deep into my left side and internally rotate. This allowed me to push as hard as I like off my right side. Prior not being able to get into my left side caused major issues with my back, speed and consistency. My driver was in ruins because i was always stuck and hanging back causing major issues. Now being able to get into the left side prior to releasing the club allows for much more freedom for everything. IMO Im not a fan of the jumping that you do - something looks off. If you notice tour pro's their body sequence - how deep they get before they turn- release the club. Then again I understand you got to move how your body allows...anyways I applaud your efforts to pushing the envelope to improve your game.
Played 9 holes Thursday after watching this Wednesday. I absolutely blistered several drives and irons, after really pushing my lead arm/hand out in the backswing, causing my trail arm to bend a lot less. It felt weird, but I was crushing nearly every shot.
Haha new to the channel but love mark’s content,first time I’ve heard Rory called and idiot for having a great swing , priceless, keep up the great work 😂
Not only will it add distance, but it will also add consistency. Doing less extension in theory should mean fewer needed muscles to line things up in transition. Once you set it and stack it right! Can't wait to watch the journey.
It's clear you are not affraid of short-term pain for the long-term gain, Mark so I'd love to watch your journey down this particular rabbit hole. And I'll sing along, because I need to improve this part of my swing too. After all, the biggest failing in life is failing to try.
I have made a huge swing change...my downswing starts with a clockwise motion as opposed to counter-clockwise of some fashion i.e. my counter-clockwise was still in to out, but I was missing the inside to inside I get with the clockwise. Thank you Moe Norman's Master Move taken to the top to feel the clockwise necessary.
Hi Mark, Fab video. My handicap is 5.5 and I know I have issues with turning and arm angles. Great explanation on what I should be aiming for !! Now I just need to find some good stretching exercises to be able to comfortably swing correctly for 18 holes, 4 - 5 days a week 😮 Thanks guys 👍
Thanks for the reminder it’s ok for good swing changes to produce bad shots until you practice with it. Keep representing the tech. I knew I liked you when I saw both Star Wars and guitars behind you 🤓
I think you should go for it. I'm a weekend golfer 17 handicap. Would like to change few things in my game but don't feel I have time to deal with the bad phase I would go through.
This information is gold in my eyes, never seen it explained this way before. Can't wait to try it out at the range and get it ingrained into my own swing. Also look forward to seeing your results if you do it
Watched this and went down range to look at where i was in relation to the right arm etc. Ball striking ok, however the occasionally i hit one that feels really good. Guilty of the points made by guy left/right arm kinked even though I think I’m pushing back straight. Widened arc, checked right arm, not over the 90 degree. Feels different on timing but will persist, definitely the fact that being short (5, 7) helps. Another positive thing it showed be I grip too tight sometimes. Great content, most appreciated.
Had a gears lesson Saturday...exact same issue. Played horrendous the day after and as you say would be easy to run away from this but I'm going to stick at it and work with Jonathan 😎
This is very interesting to me especially as I finally got a hitting net yesterday so I can start practicing seriously from home. Not sure how to measure my progress (if any) other than trying to film myself though. Just turned 64 and only been playing for five years but determined to keep improving.
Excellent video Mark (and the boys). Go for it I say. The big problem will be sequencing. Major changes are always tough but it'll be fun to see you try. Good luck. 💪
Love it. So interesting watching you have a go with the knowledge you have and the relative adaptability you have compared to us hackers that do exactly what you said, run away from it
I used to have a massive over-the-top swing path about 20 yrs ago. I had gotten to the point where I had made it very repeatable, to the point where I hardly ever hit a bad shot at the range. However, I got sick (I think it was walking pneumonia) and had no energy so even hitting balls was a chore. After a few months layoff I wasn't the same so a teaching pro friend told me I should look at my swing on video. It was then that I completely changed my swing to try to emulate what Tiger was doing. It was brutally inconsistent and my game suffered massively. I then had a number of things happen that led me away from golfing to where I hardly ever played, let alone had time to work on things. Fast forward to this year and I decided to start dedicating time towards working out all the kinks. This video, along with the "Why Amateurs can't release like PGA players" video has had a massive effect on my swing. I went out yesterday and started hitting shots like I used to, where you feel the compression of the ball and it just explodes off the club face. It's going to take time but I'm back on track. I picture emulating Rory's swing when I set up and that visual helps a lot. At 55 yrs old I was sore as hell later in the day but I know that's more a result of working on my flexibility. Thank you so much Mark. These things have helped in many ways, including bringing back the love for the game I grew up with.
Great video. I was told this in a recent lesson I had. I get very narrow in my swing. My coach told me about trying to feel like i keep wide to give me more width and room to turn and eventually more speed and distance. Although it felt alien because I'm used to being narrow I could see a difference straight away. My strikes were more consistent and even at a slower swing speed at the time because I was concentrating on the width the ball was going just as far because I was finding middle of the face more. I definitely need to practice it more because I do tend to slip into old habits. 👍🏻
Have you ever made a huge golf swing change? If so let me know in the comments.
To see my last huge golf swing change check this video out
I WENT FROM 262 to 320 Golf Drives. THERE ARE NO SECRETS
th-cam.com/video/LAD_o6qh5Hs/w-d-xo.html
Definitely need to add this bit of kit to your studio! Love the science behind golf and seeing how all this data adds up. Only trouble is, you then need all this fancy tech or cheap easy access to keep measuring, otherwise it’s pure guess work until it truly beds in
Every bloody week!!! 😅🥲
Yes, I have. I used to have an extremely flat backswing that also went well beyond parallel at the top, even with a wedge in my hands. With lessons at GolfTec, I got my swing more on plane (was a VERY difficult change for me to take and took many lessons). I was also rotating my forearms on the takeaway, making the clubface really open, forcing me to rotate/flip at the bottom of the swing to slam the face shut. The results were blocks and hooks (and once in awhile a good shot). I went from a 14 handicap to a 3 when my lessons were complete. And I did this at the age of 62.
The good old Out to in to in to out ! Doing it slowly is easy but when I go faster not so good lol
working on a change now. I have done some of this right arm work, and my body can do it, but it really messes with my already suspect strike. Mark, if you do this and do it successfully, you might well become a true long hitter.
This is much more interesting to me than trying to see how far you can hit it. I would like to see what this does to your ball striking in the interim and would be very interested to see multiple follow up lessons with these guys. Thanks
Also would love to see this!
Me too,so interesting compared to most videos.would be a great journey to follow.real data in here!
Agreed. I love this kind of content. Watching skilled golfers learn something new and improve their swing is a fun journey to spectate!
Yes!! you took the words right out of my mouth
100% agree. The speed journey has run its course. This will be a good (and needed) content change.
I know this is type of content is not for everyone, but I love it. TH-cam now has so much golf content: playing vlogs, reviews you name it. But I rarely see this technical info: gears, forces, angles. Mark you are the man to bring this forward. Would love to see a longer video/series on this topic, and also a way to compare with some of the best swings on tour.
As someone who shoots in the mid 80s I dont think this will help me go lower, but I just enjoy this breakdown.
If you enjoy this kind of analysis, athletic motion golf cover this extensively.
@@bradwhelan4466 AMG go deep on this ,so interesting how we make things so difficult compared to the pro moves.Much to learn!
I love this. Fascinating. Please give it a go and track everything that happens along the way. Take us with you. I know I have to eventually address this in my swing as well, so seeing you do it first would be wonderful.
You are brilliant Mark! Never afraid of facing the path to improvement and explaining it. It is hard to change. Especially when you get older. This was really good.
I support what you said.
Yes Mark. More of this content please. Watching someone who can make these required changes instantaneously and elegantly explain the swing thoughts is fascinating to watch
I rarely comment on TH-cam videos, but this one deserves a massive thank you. I am the player he talks about but know I can change it (and that the swing will be almost un-golfable while I do) but no one teaches this way that I've found and this helps with actually SEEING the change and the feeling it creates,
I think it is worth going down that road, Mark. Even if it ends up being a dead end you have introduced a part of the swing that many of us don't know or think about, and that could help someone out there. Your distance journey has given me ideas about my own swing and given me the confidence to try new positions or timing, but also giving it time to take effect. Rome wasn't built in a day etc...
Athletic Motion Golf are big users of Gears.Brilliant video,much more informative than most.Been working with the deWiz and setting a shorter backswing by keeping the hands further from the head has reduced the right elbow bend.Hard to work it out of the swing though !
I’ve been working with a TPI Certified coach for over 16 weeks now this year. I was struggling to hit 250 last season (had shoulder reconstruction 2.5 years ago and been a tough road with the shoulder) but last week I hit a drive 325. I’ve made massive changes. And each change has made me worse before better. I’m finally at a place where I feel comfortable with some of these changes. I was manufacturing side bend falsely and I’ve changed that to stay in posture. A lot of things were just physically impossible for me and I’ve worked hard to overcome those things. There are no short cuts. Just hard work, feeling weird, and a lot of worse then better. This was a great video!
That is going to be the case with approx 90% of people especially adults - they do not physically have the range of motion to hold that angle in a backswing - it has to be worked at for a good period of time. Like Mark most adult males will not have that external rotation of that shoulder unless it is worked on stretched - for at least a few months - but It will make a huge improvement if he does. Women on the other hand can externally rotate that shoulder fairly easily - you can often see that in women with long overswing in the backswing - they do not have the stability which is why you will see the club wobbling all over at the top when they go to transitioning towards the forward swing.
As someone that has had several gears sessions with Joe the coach in this video…I can agree entirely…a real eye opener and makes swing work and changes such a challenge but hugely informative and fun!
Hello Mark!
Crazy enough, I just had a 20-minute lesson with a PGA pro at the PGA Championship at Oak Hill. His advice was for me to shallow the club. This was explained by dropping my arms and allowing the clubhead to drop more behind myself during my downswing.
One thing he didn't mention was how to keep my right elbow more in front of my body versus alongside or behind myself.
Once I figured this out, I was now able to allow the shaft to shallow naturally. Versus dropping of the arms and wrist to shallow. Dropping the left arm tight across my chest with a tight right elbow made it impossible to return to the ball without my right arm being blocked by my right hip.
This technique that was shown in this lesson definitely allows the back to be turned more toward the target and allows my right elbow to be more naturally dropped infront of my body.
I'll enjoy this journey if you decide to share. Take care, Mark!🙋♂️
Looks like the right thing to do. I’m a 12.5 handicap and have been noticing as I work on taking the club back in a bigger arch, I hit the ball with driver and iron a lot better and straighter. When I miss my shot I realize I’m taking the club back on a lot smaller arch, not feeling like I’m taking it back longer.
I will work on what you are showing in your video. I think it lines up with what I’m see/feeling. Thank you
I’d love to see a full lesson like this of you mark. It’s so interesting.
Great video this. Love how you’re willing to go get a lesson, learn and then (as we’ve seen) use what you learned to teach others.
Absolutely love it. There is always something missing from seeing a very accomplished person hone a skill as opposed to seeing that person work on a dramatic new skill. Honing can be pleasing and hypnotic it its own right, but it can seem impossibly far off at times. I appreciate the sharing, thanks.
This was a top notch video
I saw you getting a lesson and responding like anyone else… it doesn’t feel comfortable, but you see the data behind it and helps change someone’s mind.
You have always always said that when you get lessons it should be with data, so it can be backed up.
I would love to see another video like this!
There's something very unique about your current trend of videos. So much depth. I'm really enjoying them, (although I'll have to watch some more than once.)
Fascinating! Love that you continue to challenge your game. Look forward to seeing the ongoing results.
More to come!
The timing of this video in correlation to my attempts trying to correct that trail elbow angle is insane. Thank you Mark 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Mark, as someone who is struggling to commit fully to swing changes this video was a lot of fun. I think it would say a lot for a skilled golf instructor to face a challenge like this. Hoping you take it on and give us all some motivation to stick with our own changes!
Fascinating video, regardless whats right or wrong we all have a swing unique to us all ,our comfort swing ! i find that whenever i have a lesson im ok for a few weeks then not by choice fall back into my comfort swing without realising it
One of the most interesting golf videos I’ve seen on TH-cam. Looking forward to seeing how this goes
When Im swinging my best Im mimicking Rory. He has kind of a "bounce" move that starts the downswing. Plus he says he tries to hit the ball with his right pocket which is the #1 best tip Ive ever gotten in golf.
I'm a right handed player, my last lesson I had with the Pro told me to keep my left arm straight and push the club away from the body in the back swing this helped to straighten the right arm, it works.
So many good points! Thx Mark.
How often do you have golf training?
All the best with it. Looking forward to hearing the plan and seeing the programme
Hit where ? 🤷♂️
It was great meeting you there for the swing catalyst plates. I’ve been modifying my swing since returning and been battling not only my thoughts but also other people’s comments who have not seen the progress as the shots don’t go as well as they once did. So with swing changes and updating equipment I’ve gone from 230yards to 270yards with driver. Using gears now to help modify my body movements further and can’t wait to use this on the swing catalyst plates.
We're lucky to have had the first Gears3D installation in Canada and had a few goes at it and it was very enlightening! years of teachers ignoring the real problems and getting nowhere got discovered in one session! Now comes the hard part of actually fixing the issue though. For me it's less about speed and more about consistency. But I've already noticed pleasant side effects with both. Externally rotating my rear shoulder a lot more (think DJ backswing) and feeling a lot of width and turn in process. Looking forward to seeing more of your findings.
This journey over years with the new tech has been fascinating. Thanks for being so open to it all and bringing us along #262
I think you should 100% give it a go it makes sense . If you've over bent that right arm you've got to regain that width on the downswing this will take you about the first 5 holes or so to time up . I'm going to work on it it i saw my swing on video and I'm doing the same thing and over extending the left wrist . Cheers Mark
He's a master. He has his reasons. We need to pay more attention.
Fascinating video, Mark.
Loved it.
Would love to see more on this
Loving the direction this is going. Glad to know I'm not the only 1 who feels lost when attempting a change. Gears is amazing but let's see what helped you successfully make the change and hit better
This is so the way to go - can’t wait to see results. Go on Mark - no more Parfield!!
Great video Mark, not something I’ve ever thought about with the many lessons I’ve had or anyone bringing that to my intention , something I will try next range session
My local club! Great to see Joe keeping pace with Mark with the info! Top stuff 👏
Brilliant mate, I'm gonna give this a go too. But I'll start after the season finishes lol.
I'll save this video and come back to it again.
Brilliant.
I’m absolutely confident that you will take this info, work, and apply this with gains seen. It’s built into you to do better!! Absolutely no doubt you’ll adapt to this and smash it..!
Using the speedsticks over the last winter increased my right arm bend, because it was easier to pick up speed. When my friend pointed out that my clubhead was going quite a way past parallel I watched your video and checked and I was doing the same as you.
Keeping the right arm straighter feels like I’m only swinging back halfway, it’s actually just short of parallel but it’s a lot more work.
Starting the downswing without the benefit of the clubhead inertia is so weird and feels like I’m not going to generate any speed whatsoever. But… my path has improved considerably and I’m hitting a proper draw rather than pull, and ball flight is stronger even without the pull. I’ll definitely stick with it and work in it through the winter.
Love it! 7 hdcp working towards scratch. I had my first Gears session with AMG this year and it has totally changed my conceptual understanding of the golf swing. I’m going to stick with the challenge of changing it and hope that you do also!
Love it! This is the struggle, isn't it? Even someone, such as yourself, whom has loads of captured video content of your swing, can discover, or rediscover elements which may increase your abilities. Should you apply this changed to your swing? Absolutely. You can always return to a more 'safe' swing. Of course, change is hard. Unless your are Rory, or Adam Scott, (insert favorite swing here) we can all improve, if motivated. And, keep relearning. - I've found great value and relate strongly to your swing instruction. Thanks.
Great video Mark, I had lesson recently for the first time as an 11 handicapper the pro changed a lot, posture grip, takeaway it was totally away from my comfort zone, however persistence has prevailed and I can see it bearing fruit in my game. The takeaway has improves have increased ball speed and distance I know I just have to keep with the programme and develop the habit of doing what I have been thought all the times even with driver in hand.
Fascinating. Give it a go. I have also tried this path and run away for exactly the same reasons. I am curious to see what moves you have to change, and what the distance gains are.
Mark I’ve been a very long time follower of you! Most interesting subject to me yet!!
Incredibly interesting!! Insight like this really makes you see why PGA level golfers are so good and hit it so far consistently.. I think hitting the gym to stretch that shoulder and tune the muscles that are needed to make the correct move is step 1. All the best
Great, informational video as usual! Keep em coming!
I can’t imagine giving Mark a lesson. I would be scared to tell him something wrong and he would shred me to pieces on TH-cam. Thanks to Mark for putting these videos out and a special thanks to these teaching pros for having the gull to be filmed.
to be fair two of them said nothing and looked on sheepishly
Defintely go for it! I made that exact change this autumn, still working on that (and sequence). But can effortlessly swing now at the same speed and higher as before, with much more control. Will be fun to see your journey!
I LOVE this type of content!
Absolutely fantastic. Made so much sense.
Please give it a go mark. You know you want to. Going down the athletic motion golf route with your oldschool streetwise knowledge of the golf youtube teaching game.
I first learned this idea from atheletic motion golf and a bunch of videos they've done with the gears system. I found I was able to work the idea in at the range quite well and it helped add speed, but out on the course I resort a bit more to the "comfortable" backswing
Great video Mark. I have been experimenting with the longer wider swing and have not been getting Rory results. I look forward to seeing your progress and comments
Awesome video.
Love this level of education.
Thanks Mark! Give it a go
I have very poor shoulder external rotation so I’m happy to watch you discover without trying myself 😂. I used to try and feel this by lacing fingers together and then making straight armed backswings. Makes you realise just how much of a stretch has to happen in your upper body.
definitely give it a go :-) Two swing thoughts that I have used over the years which might help, a Davis Love one, get your hands further away from your head during the back swing, and secondly one that I think is generally more useful, focus on full and proper shoulder turn, and don't worry about how full the back swing gets/looks
Genius Mark! Thank you for such an insightful video!
this is exactly what my coach has me working on. And I knew exactly what Mark meant when he said that camera had better watch out. I felt like it made my swing steeper and I felt as though I may actually miss the ball. Need to work on it more for sure.
Yes, give it a go! I’ve known this for a while, but it is a struggle. I’d love to see how you do it. Thanks!
Cameron Young's swing is a GREAT example of this very idea and he's 3rd for Driving distance on the PGA Tour. It's awesome to see it be explained in such a way. Thanks Mark.
you will see that in any long hitter - it is a mechanical certainty
Hey Mark, very interesting video as always, love following you go down some rabbit holes through the years and I always love to go on this golf journey with you and get a deeper understandig of golf.
The idea of this right arm really resonates with me and I somewhat found this out on my own a couple of months ago, that I am able to get more power from less arm bend and by the move that I can only describe as it's like I'm carrying a tray with my right hand when I am in the top of the backswing. That feeling gives me more elbow "turn" (don't know how else to describe it), less elbow bend and good wrist angles.
Another side point here is that I always tried to improve my wrist angles only by putting effort into my left wrist bend, which was hard for me shomehow. Now I actually figured out that with this tray feeling, you're actually improving your left wrist bend by bending the right wrist, an "aha" moment for sure.
Could you explain maybe someday how this could result in more power in the swing? This is something I still don't understand. I can feel it, but I don't understand it yet!
Thanks for all you do!
Kr, Ruben
Hello Mark. I found that exceptionally interesting. I will turn 65 later this year. As I age I am giving up distance. I am not in awful shape but could use some stretching and strengthening tips for the golf swing. I would love to see how this works out for you. I hope I can gleen something I might use in my own game.
love you applying your intelligence in areas that we all feel uncomfortable - keep pushing the boundaries! ;)
Nice one for trying this out, hope it works, video was great, made a lot of sense,(as do most of your shows) thank you.
Mark its great to see you keep expanding your horizons what is possible for yourself. My swing change that changed everything for my game was being to load deep into my left side and internally rotate. This allowed me to push as hard as I like off my right side. Prior not being able to get into my left side caused major issues with my back, speed and consistency. My driver was in ruins because i was always stuck and hanging back causing major issues. Now being able to get into the left side prior to releasing the club allows for much more freedom for everything. IMO Im not a fan of the jumping that you do - something looks off. If you notice tour pro's their body sequence - how deep they get before they turn- release the club. Then again I understand you got to move how your body allows...anyways I applaud your efforts to pushing the envelope to improve your game.
I've been trying to get at this by focusing on my left arm. Very enlightening to see it from the right arm position instead 👍
Played 9 holes Thursday after watching this Wednesday. I absolutely blistered several drives and irons, after really pushing my lead arm/hand out in the backswing, causing my trail arm to bend a lot less. It felt weird, but I was crushing nearly every shot.
Haha new to the channel but love mark’s content,first time I’ve heard Rory called and idiot for having a great swing , priceless, keep up the great work 😂
Not only will it add distance, but it will also add consistency. Doing less extension in theory should mean fewer needed muscles to line things up in transition. Once you set it and stack it right! Can't wait to watch the journey.
And for the past decade, I’ve been trying to imitate your swing!
Haha 😂
It's clear you are not affraid of short-term pain for the long-term gain, Mark so I'd love to watch your journey down this particular rabbit hole. And I'll sing along, because I need to improve this part of my swing too. After all, the biggest failing in life is failing to try.
I have made a huge swing change...my downswing starts with a clockwise motion as opposed to counter-clockwise of some fashion i.e. my counter-clockwise was still in to out, but I was missing the inside to inside I get with the clockwise. Thank you Moe Norman's Master Move taken to the top to feel the clockwise necessary.
Hi Mark, Fab video. My handicap is 5.5 and I know I have issues with turning and arm angles. Great explanation on what I should be aiming for !! Now I just need to find some good stretching exercises to be able to comfortably swing correctly for 18 holes, 4 - 5 days a week 😮 Thanks guys 👍
Thanks for the reminder it’s ok for good swing changes to produce bad shots until you practice with it. Keep representing the tech. I knew I liked you when I saw both Star Wars and guitars behind you 🤓
I think you should go for it. I'm a weekend golfer 17 handicap. Would like to change few things in my game but don't feel I have time to deal with the bad phase I would go through.
This information is gold in my eyes, never seen it explained this way before. Can't wait to try it out at the range and get it ingrained into my own swing. Also look forward to seeing your results if you do it
Watched this and went down range to look at where i was in relation to the right arm etc. Ball striking ok, however the occasionally i hit one that feels really good. Guilty of the points made by guy left/right arm kinked even though I think I’m pushing back straight. Widened arc, checked right arm, not over the 90 degree. Feels different on timing but will persist, definitely the fact that being short (5, 7) helps. Another positive thing it showed be I grip too tight sometimes. Great content, most appreciated.
Love this Mark! You should absolutely give it a go because I know I will be trying it next time on the range. ( tomorrow)
So interesting Mark loved that 👍🏻👍🏻
Really great video and insight Mark.
Had a gears lesson Saturday...exact same issue. Played horrendous the day after and as you say would be easy to run away from this but I'm going to stick at it and work with Jonathan 😎
Keep going Mark. You r on the journey.
wow this is another level of content ... amazing
Really interesting video. Will be interested to see where this journey ends 👍👍
Do you also like golf?
Truly fascinating stuff, great video.
This is very interesting to me especially as I finally got a hitting net yesterday so I can start practicing seriously from home. Not sure how to measure my progress (if any) other than trying to film myself though. Just turned 64 and only been playing for five years but determined to keep improving.
Excellent video Mark (and the boys). Go for it I say. The big problem will be sequencing. Major changes are always tough but it'll be fun to see you try. Good luck. 💪
Love this Mark yes we are going on a journey with you going to be good 👍👏
Nothing short of WOW!!!
It would be great to understand whether a change in hip rotation would work in parallel with the elbow refinement.
Great video. I never thought about just how little right arm bend Rory has.
Love it. So interesting watching you have a go with the knowledge you have and the relative adaptability you have compared to us hackers that do exactly what you said, run away from it
Mcilroy comment on his elbow was brilliant. Very interesting video.
This was very interesting to see. Good luck with it!
The technical aspects of a golf swing are amazing and this is a great video. But can we talk about the autonomous golf ball picker??
Haha great aren’t they.
Would love to see a follow up of how you practice this move and how you try to make the sequencing work!
yes! we need a follow up video
I used to have a massive over-the-top swing path about 20 yrs ago. I had gotten to the point where I had made it very repeatable, to the point where I hardly ever hit a bad shot at the range. However, I got sick (I think it was walking pneumonia) and had no energy so even hitting balls was a chore. After a few months layoff I wasn't the same so a teaching pro friend told me I should look at my swing on video. It was then that I completely changed my swing to try to emulate what Tiger was doing. It was brutally inconsistent and my game suffered massively. I then had a number of things happen that led me away from golfing to where I hardly ever played, let alone had time to work on things. Fast forward to this year and I decided to start dedicating time towards working out all the kinks. This video, along with the "Why Amateurs can't release like PGA players" video has had a massive effect on my swing. I went out yesterday and started hitting shots like I used to, where you feel the compression of the ball and it just explodes off the club face. It's going to take time but I'm back on track. I picture emulating Rory's swing when I set up and that visual helps a lot. At 55 yrs old I was sore as hell later in the day but I know that's more a result of working on my flexibility. Thank you so much Mark. These things have helped in many ways, including bringing back the love for the game I grew up with.
Excellent vid. Love this sort of stuff
Give this a go!!! Great content!!!
Great video. I was told this in a recent lesson I had. I get very narrow in my swing. My coach told me about trying to feel like i keep wide to give me more width and room to turn and eventually more speed and distance. Although it felt alien because I'm used to being narrow I could see a difference straight away. My strikes were more consistent and even at a slower swing speed at the time because I was concentrating on the width the ball was going just as far because I was finding middle of the face more. I definitely need to practice it more because I do tend to slip into old habits. 👍🏻