@@chawk2251 thanks we appreciate it! Yeah they are both good. Icon swings a bit heavier but it’s a bit hotter. Tank is still good and a bit lighter. Both are solid options!
We got two bad Soldier tanks in a row. The first one sounded like a rubber band guitar and the second gets rung up really bad. Every kid on my sons team who tried it had trouble with it so its not just my sons issue. If you want one buy it in person. Then he can swing the actual bat you plan to buy before buying it. The ICON is a great choice. Or any of the other bats in this video to be honest.
@@dadbod4lifewow! I’ve heard recently the durability on the tank isn’t great. Tested the bats in the vid along with the “new” hype and icon a few weeks ago…Santa will be bringing an icon for Christmas!
@@chawk2251 Excellent choice! Santa is bringing my son the Zen. A lot of kids on the team use the icon so my son wants something different. He also had a lot of success with his Zoa so staying with a similar bat in a longer length should work for him. Hope your son loves the icon!!!
Been looking for Drop 10 reviews for my son, thanks for this! Drop 5 bats are completely different bats, so this is gold. Followed you and will continue watching!
Awesome! Yup basically why we made the channel in the first place lol. We were just buying a ton of bats to test because most reviews you see are all drop 5. just doing this purely for fun and to help some other people with their decisions since we were already doing it anyways haha
Great review thanks. My son has the tank drop 10 28/18, we did the break in as suggested but still feel like it's not popping as it should be. Any suggestion? Thanks in advance
@@pauloaneiros Thanks! how many swings on the bat? Even ours after a few hundred swings is a bit pingy still. It may just be a barrel that needs a lot to break in. It may also need to see some velocity as in hitting off actual pitching. Young kids will always have a hard time breaking in composite bats for the most part. It just takes a while. All you can really do is keep swinging it!
@PerformanceFactoryBaseball My son keeps asking for thr Hype Fire (we have the Select Pwr 27/17) and I keep telling him drop 5 reviews don't apply to drop 10. He's also turning 8 in Sept and he will grow out of a bat in 1 year most likely.
@@sonnick yeah mine also went through that stage where he would watch baseball bat bros and other guys mash with certain drop 5's and then want that bat lol. Honestly I would say it depends on the kid. Alloy for a lot of 8 year olds will straight up perform better than composite. Lukas only this last season really started getting enough pop to start seeing a difference. Also was playing 9u/10u majors and most kids throw fairly hard 50-60+ mph. We actually have a Cat X2 Connect coming in today so it should be interesting to see the comparison.
Awesome video!! When researching bats for that 8-12 ish age group it’s apples to oranges watching grown men hit nukes with drop 5s or BBCOR size kids swing drop 8s or 10s, and that seems to be the only review videos out there! Much needed video with great info! Thanks
@@trevormcfarland1618 thank you! Yup basically why we made this channel haha. Was buying a ton of bats because almost nothing was like the drop 5’s we were seeing reviews of and decided we could help some others out making similar decisions!
We were able to demo and then buy a pre-release catx2 composite last week at the Marucci World Series. My 11 year old LOVES it (his is a drop 8). He hit his distance and exit velocity PRs with it. Says it swings quite light and feels very good on mishits with the new added shock absorption in the end cap (so now has absorbers in the end, the middle, and the handle). I got to talk to one of the bat designers there. It’s a new type of composite that is definitely hotter than last year’s CatX, but they say may be more fragile. Also, this year Marucci is putting a BPI number (balance point index) on each of their bats, so you’ll have actual data on the “swing weight” of each of their bats.
yes very excited to test that one out. I have heard good things from basically everyone who has tried it so far. Honestly that is probably good in the drop 8/10 space. Most of these bats take a while to break in. Id trade off a bit of durability for a hotter bat. Most the marucci bats are tanks anyways and will last you a season even in drop 5
My son's X2 composite just arrived yesterday and its a solid bat. He said the same that its light swinging. Hes been swinging the Tank this summer, so its a lot lighter. Sounds about the same as the Icon so Im sure its just as fragile as the other hot bats out there.
I will go ahead and subscribe. Its nice finding a family channel using the same equipment as my son. My son started 10u in fall. I'm assuming you son is close in age because hes using a drop 10 yet. So many of the channels focus on the heavier USSSA bats and that info just is not relevant to the drop tens.
been wanting to see something about the new bonesaber composite, you post really good content, would like to see some data after after these reviews. but keep up the good work! subscribed!
Thank you we appreciate that! We generally have some point in the video where we post the exit velocity. In this video I didn't want to bog down with a ton of data but maybe I should have. In the actual bonesaber comp review video we posted its numbers. I use a pocket radar to get them and take the top 10 exit velo's from our session, throw out the top 2 and bottom 2 and use that for a high and average. Still getting better at this so any suggestions is most certainly welcome!
Just got the soldier tank in and I also thought the handle was too large. You can remove the flared handle piece it is just a rubber piece that can be cut off if you remove the tape. Feels and swings a lot better with the flared knob.
Thanks for doing this, as others have said. I have a bit of a lightweight 9 year old and trying to find info on Drop 10's is tough, I bought a Bonesabr Alloy and he likes it. Have you found anything you've tested with a lighter swing weight than the the Warstic bonesabr composite?
@@theKOOP4773 of the more modern composites the bonesaber is probably one of the lightest if not the lightest. The Dirty South Swag we just reviewed is a one piece composite that also swings light. Other than that probably something like the older Louisville Slugger Meta’s. The black/gold, orange or white/gold one are all the same and are very light swinging
I agree the zen feels more end loaded. my son is 10/78lb/4’7”, I was kinda set on the icon, but after swinging the zen, icon, cat x comp, and fire he picked the zen. It’s so subjective, could have even been he liked the artwork on the bat better lol, but he is hitting well with it. All these bats are so close in performance it really is a matter of preference and also the Indian not the bow if we are being honest. Can’t go wrong with any of these, would love to see a warstick in the wild
@ absolutely agree super subjective. Funny thing you brought up the artwork. My son was dead set on the hype fire because of that plus all the “hype” on TH-cam. We did a blind test with the hype, the icon, the cat x, the clout, the new goods bat and the atlas and the zen. He picked the alloy one piece bats every time 😂. And then for composites he picked the goods and the icon. Undoubtedly without that test he would have picked the hype fire. It’s fun to see the kids getting excited about new bats though. I get the same way about new cars 😂
Subbed. This is much needed - seeing kids swing these bats is great. I've been watching the big channels for a couple of years now, and got my kids CAT 9 composites. Ive come to the opinion that between lower pitching speeds and lower strength of younger players, one piece alloy is better. They swing them better (speed and control), and i dont think my kids can compress composites enough to get the benefit that composite gives
Yeah I would tend to agree. I think right up until about higher end 9u/10u alloy is going to be the safer option. You really need them to have good bat speed as well as seeing hard pitching for composite to really jump ahead!
@@bassballboy the 2023 or 2024 Demarini the Goods is a SUPER LIGHT swinging alloy 2 piece in usssa. It is also IMO the hottest alloy bat out here right now. It has more of a PONG sound than a PING, if that makes sense, 😆. Forgiving on mishits too.
Try the Meta One drop12. This composite bat is compressible for younger and smaller players. Therefore, they may be able to take the benefits of a composite bat.
@@jonchoi1233 hmm interesting. I wonder how a drop that high would hold up to faster pitching. This weekend we were seeing some kids in the 65-70 range~ in 10u
My son currently swings a 29" drop 10 icon. I can tell by his swing it's a little too big/heavy for him. He is 9 years old @ 4'3" 64lbs. Got him to swing a 26 inch drop 12 in the cages and his swing improved dramatically and actually started pulling the ball. I know that's too small, but I'm looking into getting him a 28" bat, which usssa bats in the 28" range swing the lightest?
@@clintonlavine2879 yeah Lukas is also 9 but a bit heavier and taller than your son. Honestly if he is struggling with weight and size I would definitely think about about a single piece alloy. The new Cat X2 one piece is very good and light. If he wants a composite then something like the Bonesaber composite is very light swinging!
@@clintonlavine2879 anytime! I think a lot of people write off single piece alloys in usssa but in all honesty they might perform better than composite til a kid is big enough and strong enough to compress the composite and the ball is also coming fairly hard. Lukas is just getting to the point where he truly can compress it
@@PerformanceFactoryBaseballmy son agrees alloy all the way. He had success with his Icon, but likes the Cat X alloy more and absolutely hated the Cat X Composite. 9 years old, 4'8, 90 lbs currently swinging a 30/22 Cat X alloy (and refuses to go back to his drop 10s because they're "too light"). Somehow still early on live pitching 45ish mph, I don't get it.
@@treyjohn3166 yeah to a certain extent alloy is going to perform better until the ball is coming hard enough and the swing has enough power behind it to really compress the composite. In 10u majors the average velocity we’re seeing is probably around 50~55mph and in some regional tournaments we will see anywhere into the mid 60’s. That’s really when you start to see the ball jump off composite. But even the. We still see plenty of very good hitters swinging alloy
Bought my son the Tank drop 10 during fall ball to use for fall and next season. What a mistake. First one came broken. The replacement also sounds awful and hits very inconsistent. His last bat was a Zoa which served him really well. I just ordered a Zen for his Christmas present. I am cutting our losses on the Tank. Should have stayed with Demarini from the get go. His 30" drop ten Tank also weighs 23 grams. Not acceptable.
All of the velo’s for the bats are in their own specific review videos. We didn’t super focus on exit velocity with this showdown because generally for the ages swinging drop 10 it’s more about getting a bat the kid can get through the zone consistently and effectively
@@delcy28 funny enough we were just swinging a Cat X2 connect. I know that sadly doesn’t really solve the budget concerns as it is still a $350 bat lol. I will see if we can swing some of the more budget options soon!
@@delcy28honestly the best budget bats at the drop 10 weight have reviews on them. The cat 9 series is beastly, the comp can be had for 150 or less now. The older zens crush and can so does the gold and black zoa at drop 10 and drop 8 and all are under 150 now
@@CartersUniversee yeah in retrospect it probably was worth putting. If you go and watch the individual reviews they have the exit velos. The bonesaber comp performed very well, had very high exit velo for how light it swings
@@Rjtocool169 🤣 we just put out a review of the new hype fire. We just didn’t have it when we did this. We have the new Cat x2 composite and meta prime on the way also. Will probably redo this video once we get and test those also that way we have the full 2025 lineup
@@CaliRican787 not too long. Depends on the kid but it felt the quickest out of most the bats we’ve tested. Isn’t super pingy out of the wrapper like a lot of other bats are
@@CaliRican787 a lot of good options right more. Definitely depends on the kid. The Bonesaber composite is very light swinging but also pretty hot. The icon is probably the best all rounder of the modern era drop 10’s though I’d say!
@@CC-jx1oe we have tested it before. Have the new one ordered and will test it again. The drop 10 hype fire is not the same bat that the drop 5 is. From our previous testing in drop 10 the icon was a straight up hotter bat.
Love what you’re doing for drop 10 bats and the younger players. I was hooked on getting the soldier tank for a Christmas gift but the icon may be it!
@@chawk2251 thanks we appreciate it! Yeah they are both good. Icon swings a bit heavier but it’s a bit hotter. Tank is still good and a bit lighter. Both are solid options!
We got two bad Soldier tanks in a row. The first one sounded like a rubber band guitar and the second gets rung up really bad. Every kid on my sons team who tried it had trouble with it so its not just my sons issue. If you want one buy it in person. Then he can swing the actual bat you plan to buy before buying it. The ICON is a great choice. Or any of the other bats in this video to be honest.
@@dadbod4lifewow! I’ve heard recently the durability on the tank isn’t great. Tested the bats in the vid along with the “new” hype and icon a few weeks ago…Santa will be bringing an icon for Christmas!
@@chawk2251 Excellent choice! Santa is bringing my son the Zen. A lot of kids on the team use the icon so my son wants something different. He also had a lot of success with his Zoa so staying with a similar bat in a longer length should work for him. Hope your son loves the icon!!!
Been looking for Drop 10 reviews for my son, thanks for this! Drop 5 bats are completely different bats, so this is gold. Followed you and will continue watching!
Awesome! Yup basically why we made the channel in the first place lol. We were just buying a ton of bats to test because most reviews you see are all drop 5. just doing this purely for fun and to help some other people with their decisions since we were already doing it anyways haha
Great review thanks. My son has the tank drop 10 28/18, we did the break in as suggested but still feel like it's not popping as it should be. Any suggestion? Thanks in advance
@@pauloaneiros Thanks! how many swings on the bat? Even ours after a few hundred swings is a bit pingy still. It may just be a barrel that needs a lot to break in. It may also need to see some velocity as in hitting off actual pitching. Young kids will always have a hard time breaking in composite bats for the most part. It just takes a while. All you can really do is keep swinging it!
@PerformanceFactoryBaseball My son keeps asking for thr Hype Fire (we have the Select Pwr 27/17) and I keep telling him drop 5 reviews don't apply to drop 10. He's also turning 8 in Sept and he will grow out of a bat in 1 year most likely.
@@sonnick yeah mine also went through that stage where he would watch baseball bat bros and other guys mash with certain drop 5's and then want that bat lol. Honestly I would say it depends on the kid. Alloy for a lot of 8 year olds will straight up perform better than composite. Lukas only this last season really started getting enough pop to start seeing a difference. Also was playing 9u/10u majors and most kids throw fairly hard 50-60+ mph. We actually have a Cat X2 Connect coming in today so it should be interesting to see the comparison.
Awesome video!! When researching bats for that 8-12 ish age group it’s apples to oranges watching grown men hit nukes with drop 5s or BBCOR size kids swing drop 8s or 10s, and that seems to be the only review videos out there! Much needed video with great info! Thanks
@@trevormcfarland1618 thank you! Yup basically why we made this channel haha. Was buying a ton of bats because almost nothing was like the drop 5’s we were seeing reviews of and decided we could help some others out making similar decisions!
Well done! Thanks for your continued work and improvements. Love having this data and comparisons to help make better decisions. Great batting Lukas!
Working on compiling all that data and then putting it in an easily accessible place!
I just searched for the exact video yesterday. Glad you posted it last night.
haha thats what were here for! hopefully will have the new Hype fire and New Cat X2 comp in hand whenever they fully drop so we can add those to it!
We were able to demo and then buy a pre-release catx2 composite last week at the Marucci World Series. My 11 year old LOVES it (his is a drop 8). He hit his distance and exit velocity PRs with it. Says it swings quite light and feels very good on mishits with the new added shock absorption in the end cap (so now has absorbers in the end, the middle, and the handle). I got to talk to one of the bat designers there. It’s a new type of composite that is definitely hotter than last year’s CatX, but they say may be more fragile. Also, this year Marucci is putting a BPI number (balance point index) on each of their bats, so you’ll have actual data on the “swing weight” of each of their bats.
yes very excited to test that one out. I have heard good things from basically everyone who has tried it so far. Honestly that is probably good in the drop 8/10 space. Most of these bats take a while to break in. Id trade off a bit of durability for a hotter bat. Most the marucci bats are tanks anyways and will last you a season even in drop 5
My son's X2 composite just arrived yesterday and its a solid bat. He said the same that its light swinging. Hes been swinging the Tank this summer, so its a lot lighter. Sounds about the same as the Icon so Im sure its just as fragile as the other hot bats out there.
I will go ahead and subscribe. Its nice finding a family channel using the same equipment as my son. My son started 10u in fall. I'm assuming you son is close in age because hes using a drop 10 yet. So many of the channels focus on the heavier USSSA bats and that info just is not relevant to the drop tens.
Love the channel, would like to see a review of the famous bone saber hybrid.
Thank you!
Yeah we hope to pick one up soon. Its a bat you don't see a ton but Warstic always seems to make good stuff
been wanting to see something about the new bonesaber composite, you post really good content, would like to see some data after after these reviews. but keep up the good work! subscribed!
Thank you we appreciate that! We generally have some point in the video where we post the exit velocity. In this video I didn't want to bog down with a ton of data but maybe I should have. In the actual bonesaber comp review video we posted its numbers. I use a pocket radar to get them and take the top 10 exit velo's from our session, throw out the top 2 and bottom 2 and use that for a high and average. Still getting better at this so any suggestions is most certainly welcome!
Just got the soldier tank in and I also thought the handle was too large. You can remove the flared handle piece it is just a rubber piece that can be cut off if you remove the tape. Feels and swings a lot better with the flared knob.
@@jordanpowers4636 yeah all preference. Lukas didn’t mind it. But it definitely shoves some weight down in the hands.
Thanks for doing this, as others have said. I have a bit of a lightweight 9 year old and trying to find info on Drop 10's is tough, I bought a Bonesabr Alloy and he likes it. Have you found anything you've tested with a lighter swing weight than the the Warstic bonesabr composite?
@@theKOOP4773 of the more modern composites the bonesaber is probably one of the lightest if not the lightest. The Dirty South Swag we just reviewed is a one piece composite that also swings light.
Other than that probably something like the older Louisville Slugger Meta’s. The black/gold, orange or white/gold one are all the same and are very light swinging
@@PerformanceFactoryBaseball Thanks so much, again really appreciate the channel! Subscribed!
@@theKOOP4773 no problem at all! Thank you!
The zen is heavy, super end loaded.
I agree the zen feels more end loaded. my son is 10/78lb/4’7”, I was kinda set on the icon, but after swinging the zen, icon, cat x comp, and fire he picked the zen. It’s so subjective, could have even been he liked the artwork on the bat better lol, but he is hitting well with it. All these bats are so close in performance it really is a matter of preference and also the Indian not the bow if we are being honest. Can’t go wrong with any of these, would love to see a warstick in the wild
@ absolutely agree super subjective. Funny thing you brought up the artwork. My son was dead set on the hype fire because of that plus all the “hype” on TH-cam. We did a blind test with the hype, the icon, the cat x, the clout, the new goods bat and the atlas and the zen. He picked the alloy one piece bats every time 😂. And then for composites he picked the goods and the icon. Undoubtedly without that test he would have picked the hype fire. It’s fun to see the kids getting excited about new bats though. I get the same way about new cars 😂
Subbed. This is much needed - seeing kids swing these bats is great. I've been watching the big channels for a couple of years now, and got my kids CAT 9 composites. Ive come to the opinion that between lower pitching speeds and lower strength of younger players, one piece alloy is better. They swing them better (speed and control), and i dont think my kids can compress composites enough to get the benefit that composite gives
Yeah I would tend to agree. I think right up until about higher end 9u/10u alloy is going to be the safer option. You really need them to have good bat speed as well as seeing hard pitching for composite to really jump ahead!
@@bassballboy the 2023 or 2024 Demarini the Goods is a SUPER LIGHT swinging alloy 2 piece in usssa. It is also IMO the hottest alloy bat out here right now. It has more of a PONG sound than a PING, if that makes sense, 😆. Forgiving on mishits too.
Try the Meta One drop12. This composite bat is compressible for younger and smaller players. Therefore, they may be able to take the benefits of a composite bat.
@@jonchoi1233 hmm interesting. I wonder how a drop that high would hold up to faster pitching. This weekend we were seeing some kids in the 65-70 range~ in 10u
My son currently swings a 29" drop 10 icon. I can tell by his swing it's a little too big/heavy for him. He is 9 years old @ 4'3" 64lbs. Got him to swing a 26 inch drop 12 in the cages and his swing improved dramatically and actually started pulling the ball. I know that's too small, but I'm looking into getting him a 28" bat, which usssa bats in the 28" range swing the lightest?
@@clintonlavine2879 yeah Lukas is also 9 but a bit heavier and taller than your son. Honestly if he is struggling with weight and size I would definitely think about about a single piece alloy. The new Cat X2 one piece is very good and light. If he wants a composite then something like the Bonesaber composite is very light swinging!
@PerformanceFactoryBaseball thanks for the quick reply! I appreciate the advice!
@@clintonlavine2879 anytime! I think a lot of people write off single piece alloys in usssa but in all honesty they might perform better than composite til a kid is big enough and strong enough to compress the composite and the ball is also coming fairly hard. Lukas is just getting to the point where he truly can compress it
@@PerformanceFactoryBaseballmy son agrees alloy all the way. He had success with his Icon, but likes the Cat X alloy more and absolutely hated the Cat X Composite. 9 years old, 4'8, 90 lbs currently swinging a 30/22 Cat X alloy (and refuses to go back to his drop 10s because they're "too light"). Somehow still early on live pitching 45ish mph, I don't get it.
@@treyjohn3166 yeah to a certain extent alloy is going to perform better until the ball is coming hard enough and the swing has enough power behind it to really compress the composite. In 10u majors the average velocity we’re seeing is probably around 50~55mph and in some regional tournaments we will see anywhere into the mid 60’s. That’s really when you start to see the ball jump off composite. But even the. We still see plenty of very good hitters swinging alloy
Bought my son the Tank drop 10 during fall ball to use for fall and next season. What a mistake. First one came broken. The replacement also sounds awful and hits very inconsistent. His last bat was a Zoa which served him really well. I just ordered a Zen for his Christmas present. I am cutting our losses on the Tank. Should have stayed with Demarini from the get go. His 30" drop ten Tank also weighs 23 grams. Not acceptable.
Can you post the velo results in the video description?
All of the velo’s for the bats are in their own specific review videos. We didn’t super focus on exit velocity with this showdown because generally for the ages swinging drop 10 it’s more about getting a bat the kid can get through the zone consistently and effectively
Did you guys ever try the Orange Meta from 2 years ago?
@@bradenm8485 we took some swings with it years ago. Good bat but almost “too” durable in the drop 10 space haha. Very light swing. Skinnier barrel.
Mix in some alloy reviews for those who may not want to spend $400 on a -10 bat. TIA
@@delcy28 funny enough we were just swinging a Cat X2 connect. I know that sadly doesn’t really solve the budget concerns as it is still a $350 bat lol. I will see if we can swing some of the more budget options soon!
@@PerformanceFactoryBaseball sounds good!
@@delcy28honestly the best budget bats at the drop 10 weight have reviews on them. The cat 9 series is beastly, the comp can be had for 150 or less now. The older zens crush and can so does the gold and black zoa at drop 10 and drop 8 and all are under 150 now
Just out of curiosity and dont answer if its too personal, but how big is your son? I want to compare to my lightweight 10 yr old.
@@mrcrockj no problem he is around 4”7~ and 74 lbs~
Would've liked to know exit velo.. he seemed to get the bonesaber through the zone quickest
@@CartersUniversee yeah in retrospect it probably was worth putting. If you go and watch the individual reviews they have the exit velos. The bonesaber comp performed very well, had very high exit velo for how light it swings
This is why I don’t comment until the end of the vid bro just answered my question 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Rjtocool169 🤣 we just put out a review of the new hype fire. We just didn’t have it when we did this. We have the new Cat x2 composite and meta prime on the way also. Will probably redo this video once we get and test those also that way we have the full 2025 lineup
How long it takes to break in a icon -10
@@CaliRican787 not too long. Depends on the kid but it felt the quickest out of most the bats we’ve tested. Isn’t super pingy out of the wrapper like a lot of other bats are
@@PerformanceFactoryBaseball seriously considering on getting one now!
@@CaliRican787 a lot of good options right more. Definitely depends on the kid. The Bonesaber composite is very light swinging but also pretty hot. The icon is probably the best all rounder of the modern era drop 10’s though I’d say!
missing the best bat? HYPE FIRE
@@CC-jx1oe we have tested it before. Have the new one ordered and will test it again. The drop 10 hype fire is not the same bat that the drop 5 is. From our previous testing in drop 10 the icon was a straight up hotter bat.
The Icon was definitely in the video so he has the best bat
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Bro why u not put the hype in man it’s not banned by perfect game