Great video. Have to be honest, my son loves the warstic. I feel it's one of if not the best feeling bats in the hand. Great balance. Great swing on the kid!
@@mweeks8757 yup it’s one of our go-to bats when we’re seeing higher velocity pitching. Very easy to swing and still maintains great pop even while being one of the lightest swinging bats available. Thanks we appreciate it!
Great video as always. Love the comparisons. My son just turned 8 and we ended up finding last years Icon brand new about a month ago and picked it up. He loves it. Also picked up the Pocket Radar to start tracking Exit Velo just for baseline & progress. I will say, the USSSA Icon was 2mph faster than his 1pc Bonesaber USA bat. I believe you were correct when you said composite bats won't make a ton of difference until they reach 9-10 years old with some pop.
@@sonnick thank you we appreciate it! Yeah depending on the kid you will really start seeing the difference around 9-10. The top end kids maybe slightly sooner. Lukas was 8 last year and we started to see the difference but it was small. It will grow more and more the more pitching velocity they see and the stronger they get. The icon is definitely the most game ready drop 10 out of the wrapper though. As your boy gets stronger he will start seeing a difference! It’s fun to see that exit velo go up a steadily over time as they put the work in!
@@jagoramuh4173 thank you we definitely appreciate that! And yes we are going to try and get our hands on some USA bats! Sadly we don’t play anything that actually uses USA (for some reason little league is basically non existent where we live) but we have been curious on testing some out and doing a USSSA vs USA comparison!
I'd like to see a test on that too. I'm on the Big Island in Hawaii, all the organizations & leagues here are USA only. They only have 2 or maybe 3 USSSA Tournament a year here and -5 are not allowed.
@@LippaRippa yeah it’s really interesting. Texas where we are is really one of if not the only “baseball hotbed” that barely plays little league at all. There is essentially nowhere around us that play little league. Not really sure why. I guess it’s that most of the cities here run the leagues themselves rather than a separate organization. Definitely want to get some USA bats to test though. We’re about to hit winter off season here in a few weeks so hopefully can get some more going!
@@PerformanceFactoryBaseball I was just up in Austin 2 weeks ago for ACL Concert. Went to meet up with a bunch of other friends from Hawaii and met up with some other Hawaiians that moved up a few years ago. Got to stop by the Maruuci Club House and grab a few items, really nice facility.
@@LippaRippa that’s awesome! Yeah there’s a few cool baseball spots here in Texas. Dallas has the Warstic HQ you can go to to test their bats and see all their products as well.
Your channel is very cool，I want to buy a new bat for my 10-year-old son, 31-inch-10. Do you recommend icon or hypefire and zen? Is there a big difference between the power of -10 and -8?
@@刘世祺 all 3 are good. The zen may have the biggest sweet spot of the 3 but also seems to be the least hot. The Icon is usually my choice as it seems to be the best of the drop 10’s. It’s hot while swing weight is fairly in the middle not light but not overly heavy. Hype fire is also solid. A bit lighter than the icon in drop 10 but not quite as hot imo. -8 vs -10 it really depends on the kid. If your son is very big he could potentially swing a drop 8. But I’d be very sure that he maintains a decent swing speed and his mechanics so he isn’t trying to fight the weight.
So the prime is a lot heavier than the icon? We have used LS meta Orange and then the white limited one all drop 10. Wanting to switch to a drop 8 for spring and have loved the Meta bats, always great pop and durability. But now worried it will be too heavy bc he already is switching to a drop 8.. thoughts?
@@cori3394 it’s definitely heavier. Still very solid and seemingly very durable. I think if your kid has a fairly strong swing he will completely fine. None of the bats I’ve seen in drop 10/8 I would consider crazy heavy or very end loaded to be completely honest. Really the only ones I’ve seen like that are the old skinny barrels. Those swing pretty heavy.
@@PerformanceFactoryBaseball ok sounds good. More was worried switching from the -10 to -8 then it already being extra heavy would be too much of a switch. Yah he is a pretty solid power hitter and he has loved the last few Meta bats and they seem to not crack like others we have tried.
@ I wouldn’t be too worried then. Honestly from what I’ve seen kids notice length much more than weight. A kid will notice moving up an inch or 2 way more than they will going to drop 8 from 10. If he has some power I wouldn’t worry about it at all. The icon is also a really solid option for a more power oriented hitter and also seems very durable. My son swung the white one all last season. Games, practice, BP etc… that bat probably had 5000 swings on it and just finally started to develop a small crack
@ yah the icon was the other one I was looking at. He currently swings the a White Meta, so u know kids they want new colors lol and icon is white 😂 I care more about the swing then the color 😂
@@PerformanceFactoryBaseball Yup, my 12U son swings a -8 Cat X composite and he wanted the X2 when I get him a -5 in the spring to get him ready for the jump in 13U...until he saw that bat.
@@PerformanceFactoryBaseball He absolutely loves it. He has a couple of teammates that swing X/X2 connects but he was the only Marucci composite with his Cat X. Everyone else has a Hype, Zen, or Icon and kinda turned their nose up when they were talking about -5 bats and he said he wanted an X2 composite. He turned a few heads between the colors and a laser line drive the LF fence on his first swing with the composite X2 Vice at practice.
Dude you need to try Dirty South bats... I just purchased one used.. it sent them 20 foot further than our drop 8 icon.. 30 drop 10 dirty against 30 drop 8 icon. Dirty South is for real.
@@DAWGpound1776 yeah we have actually never swung one but they always seem to have a very devout following. Curious which one of the Dirty South bats your boy has? Their most popular is the Swag right?
@PerformanceFactoryBaseball we stayed away from one pieces because of ring up. But we haven't had that problem with this one piece composite. Super cool
@@LJF23 drop 8 and 10 are almost the exact same bats. Drop 5 is really where they start to feel and swing way differently. Yes Icon would still be the overall favorite in drop 8
@@PerformanceFactoryBaseball what would you say is the best -8 alloy? Haven’t heard anything about the new voodoo one usssa. Or the atlas usssa. Do either of these compare to the marucci or AI clout?
@@LJF23 honestly we have not swung enough of them to fully say. But out of the ones we have tested I would say if you like one that swings slightly heavier then the atlas is very good. If you like it a little lighter the clout is very good. Sadly have not tried the new voodoo. I do wonder if it is actually just a repaint of last years the goods one piece at least for USSSA.
Honestly tough call. We have not tried the mizuno yet and don’t know anyone who has in the drop 10. The tank and Dirty South Swag are both fairly interesting. I’d say the dirty south swings a bit lighter while the Tank is still fairly light but more of a medium swing weight. I’d say it comes down to mostly how big your kid is and how much power they have. If you want something slightly easier to swing go with the dirty south. Something slightly heavier go with the tank. Also could always use dirty south’s try it out program before you buy it
@@cajunredneck3576 I think that’s just in the very first part where I’m talking about the website. I accidentally had the mic turned down. I believe the rest should have correct audio. Sorry about that!
@@PerformanceFactoryBaseball you are correct I fast forward to the bats and can head up loud and clear. Thx for the content… in the process of buying a new bat… looking for a drop 8 but saw u were able to try out the new Meta Prime. Curious to see how it compares… not a lot of content on the LS Meta Prime yet.
@@cajunredneck3576 definitely hot but a pretty heavy swing weight. If your son is really big or has good power it could definitely be a good option. But I’d beware it’s definitely heavy swinging. One of the highest exit velo’s we have tracked though
How are you doing a showdown with no actual data metrics measured? No Average Velo for each bat, and no average distance. So this showdown is simply based on the feel of one player with no actual data? That's not how you test things...
Parents. 1. Hitters can hit, no matter the bat 2. Dont over spend in the -10 space especially 3. 99% of bats are 1 season bats. Get pre owned like he says here Any 5150, CAT, Omaha, Velo, Solo, S3, XL3...all great bats! 4. If he cant hit, its not the bat 5. Hittting live is not directly proportional to $ spent Keep the secondary market/budget bat reviews coming. That is where parents need to be.
This is the video I needed. Thank you.
@@dadbod4life no problem we appreciate you watching!
Great video. Have to be honest, my son loves the warstic. I feel it's one of if not the best feeling bats in the hand. Great balance. Great swing on the kid!
@@mweeks8757 yup it’s one of our go-to bats when we’re seeing higher velocity pitching. Very easy to swing and still maintains great pop even while being one of the lightest swinging bats available. Thanks we appreciate it!
Great video as always. Love the comparisons. My son just turned 8 and we ended up finding last years Icon brand new about a month ago and picked it up. He loves it. Also picked up the Pocket Radar to start tracking Exit Velo just for baseline & progress. I will say, the USSSA Icon was 2mph faster than his 1pc Bonesaber USA bat. I believe you were correct when you said composite bats won't make a ton of difference until they reach 9-10 years old with some pop.
@@sonnick thank you we appreciate it! Yeah depending on the kid you will really start seeing the difference around 9-10. The top end kids maybe slightly sooner. Lukas was 8 last year and we started to see the difference but it was small. It will grow more and more the more pitching velocity they see and the stronger they get. The icon is definitely the most game ready drop 10 out of the wrapper though. As your boy gets stronger he will start seeing a difference! It’s fun to see that exit velo go up a steadily over time as they put the work in!
Keep going! My son and I love your videos. Can you do a review on the Marucci Catx2 Composite USA drop 10?
@@jagoramuh4173 thank you we definitely appreciate that! And yes we are going to try and get our hands on some USA bats! Sadly we don’t play anything that actually uses USA (for some reason little league is basically non existent where we live) but we have been curious on testing some out and doing a USSSA vs USA comparison!
I'd like to see a test on that too. I'm on the Big Island in Hawaii, all the organizations & leagues here are USA only. They only have 2 or maybe 3 USSSA Tournament a year here and -5 are not allowed.
@@LippaRippa yeah it’s really interesting. Texas where we are is really one of if not the only “baseball hotbed” that barely plays little league at all. There is essentially nowhere around us that play little league. Not really sure why. I guess it’s that most of the cities here run the leagues themselves rather than a separate organization.
Definitely want to get some USA bats to test though. We’re about to hit winter off season here in a few weeks so hopefully can get some more going!
@@PerformanceFactoryBaseball I was just up in Austin 2 weeks ago for ACL Concert. Went to meet up with a bunch of other friends from Hawaii and met up with some other Hawaiians that moved up a few years ago. Got to stop by the Maruuci Club House and grab a few items, really nice facility.
@@LippaRippa that’s awesome! Yeah there’s a few cool baseball spots here in Texas. Dallas has the Warstic HQ you can go to to test their bats and see all their products as well.
Your channel is very cool，I want to buy a new bat for my 10-year-old son, 31-inch-10. Do you recommend icon or hypefire and zen? Is there a big difference between the power of -10 and -8?
@@刘世祺 all 3 are good. The zen may have the biggest sweet spot of the 3 but also seems to be the least hot. The Icon is usually my choice as it seems to be the best of the drop 10’s. It’s hot while swing weight is fairly in the middle not light but not overly heavy. Hype fire is also solid. A bit lighter than the icon in drop 10 but not quite as hot imo.
-8 vs -10 it really depends on the kid. If your son is very big he could potentially swing a drop 8. But I’d be very sure that he maintains a decent swing speed and his mechanics so he isn’t trying to fight the weight.
So the prime is a lot heavier than the icon? We have used LS meta Orange and then the white limited one all drop 10. Wanting to switch to a drop 8 for spring and have loved the Meta bats, always great pop and durability. But now worried it will be too heavy bc he already is switching to a drop 8.. thoughts?
Also to add, he is 11u, plays AAA and is a pretty solid hitter.
@@cori3394 it’s definitely heavier. Still very solid and seemingly very durable. I think if your kid has a fairly strong swing he will completely fine. None of the bats I’ve seen in drop 10/8 I would consider crazy heavy or very end loaded to be completely honest. Really the only ones I’ve seen like that are the old skinny barrels. Those swing pretty heavy.
@@PerformanceFactoryBaseball ok sounds good. More was worried switching from the -10 to -8 then it already being extra heavy would be too much of a switch. Yah he is a pretty solid power hitter and he has loved the last few Meta bats and they seem to not crack like others we have tried.
@ I wouldn’t be too worried then. Honestly from what I’ve seen kids notice length much more than weight. A kid will notice moving up an inch or 2 way more than they will going to drop 8 from 10. If he has some power I wouldn’t worry about it at all. The icon is also a really solid option for a more power oriented hitter and also seems very durable. My son swung the white one all last season. Games, practice, BP etc… that bat probably had 5000 swings on it and just finally started to develop a small crack
@ yah the icon was the other one I was looking at. He currently swings the a White Meta, so u know kids they want new colors lol and icon is white 😂 I care more about the swing then the color 😂
And then Marucci decided to throw out new "80's Miami Vice" colors for the CATX2.
@@brandonwaide9383 haha yeah, still the same bat. Apparently limited through marucci. Of course Lukas wants one 🤣
@@PerformanceFactoryBaseball Yup, my 12U son swings a -8 Cat X composite and he wanted the X2 when I get him a -5 in the spring to get him ready for the jump in 13U...until he saw that bat.
@@PerformanceFactoryBaseball his 30" -8 Vice will be here tomorrow 🫣
@@brandonwaide9383 I couldn’t help myself either. I also ordered one 🤣
@@PerformanceFactoryBaseball He absolutely loves it. He has a couple of teammates that swing X/X2 connects but he was the only Marucci composite with his Cat X. Everyone else has a Hype, Zen, or Icon and kinda turned their nose up when they were talking about -5 bats and he said he wanted an X2 composite. He turned a few heads between the colors and a laser line drive the LF fence on his first swing with the composite X2 Vice at practice.
Love the new website!! Let's go!!
@@PepsitheDoxie appreciate it!
Dude you need to try Dirty South bats... I just purchased one used.. it sent them 20 foot further than our drop 8 icon..
30 drop 10 dirty against 30 drop 8 icon.
Dirty South is for real.
@@DAWGpound1776 yeah we have actually never swung one but they always seem to have a very devout following. Curious which one of the Dirty South bats your boy has? Their most popular is the Swag right?
@PerformanceFactoryBaseball this was with USA bats. The USSSA bats are hotter. You HAVE to get one.
@@DAWGpound1776 have a Swag and Bravo on the way! Should be a fun test/review. DSB always seems to have a very devout following
@@PerformanceFactoryBaseball I can't wait to see this
@PerformanceFactoryBaseball we stayed away from one pieces because of ring up. But we haven't had that problem with this one piece composite. Super cool
What do you have as the best usssa -8 bat. Also the icon?
@@LJF23 drop 8 and 10 are almost the exact same bats. Drop 5 is really where they start to feel and swing way differently. Yes Icon would still be the overall favorite in drop 8
@@PerformanceFactoryBaseball what would you say is the best -8 alloy? Haven’t heard anything about the new voodoo one usssa. Or the atlas usssa. Do either of these compare to the marucci or AI clout?
@@LJF23 honestly we have not swung enough of them to fully say. But out of the ones we have tested I would say if you like one that swings slightly heavier then the atlas is very good. If you like it a little lighter the clout is very good. Sadly have not tried the new voodoo. I do wonder if it is actually just a repaint of last years the goods one piece at least for USSSA.
Is the icon fairly balanced loaded?
I would say slightly end loaded. Not as much as some bats but I would say it has a medium to slightly heavy swing weight.
The tank or the mizuno carbon pro or dirty south 2025 1mpeive comp
Honestly tough call. We have not tried the mizuno yet and don’t know anyone who has in the drop 10.
The tank and Dirty South Swag are both fairly interesting. I’d say the dirty south swings a bit lighter while the Tank is still fairly light but more of a medium swing weight.
I’d say it comes down to mostly how big your kid is and how much power they have. If you want something slightly easier to swing go with the dirty south. Something slightly heavier go with the tank. Also could always use dirty south’s try it out program before you buy it
@@PerformanceFactoryBaseballon justbats I’ve seen each of these bats on sale for little price
@@BaseballandGod4life yeah we may end up picking up the Mizuno. Interesting bat that we know very little about
@ it’s not out yet 😖
Bonesaber definitely a Great Bat son swings almost exclusively Marucci and he doesnt put the Bonesaber down
yeah I was very surprised how good it was for the first composite bat Warstic has ever made.
Sound needs to be louder
@@BallinANDDrawin on what the speaking portion or the hitting portion?
@@PerformanceFactoryBaseball speaking portion. Great stuff. I love ur videos.
@@BallinANDDrawin thanks! Hmm wonder if I accidentally turned down my mic on the mixer. Sorry about that!
Yeah had to crank it up to hear the speaking
@@PerformanceFactoryBaseball no probably I just listen to it on my phone on the drive home from work and could barely hear it lol
I’m interested in your content but man … we really can’t hear you in the video.
@@cajunredneck3576 I think that’s just in the very first part where I’m talking about the website. I accidentally had the mic turned down. I believe the rest should have correct audio. Sorry about that!
@@PerformanceFactoryBaseball you are correct I fast forward to the bats and can head up loud and clear. Thx for the content… in the process of buying a new bat… looking for a drop 8 but saw u were able to try out the new Meta Prime. Curious to see how it compares… not a lot of content on the LS Meta Prime yet.
@@cajunredneck3576 definitely hot but a pretty heavy swing weight. If your son is really big or has good power it could definitely be a good option. But I’d beware it’s definitely heavy swinging. One of the highest exit velo’s we have tracked though
What lenth does he swing
@@natedogg313rd all of these bats are 29 drop 10
Thank you I appreciate your time
@ no problem!
Usa? Or usssa?
@@CartersUniversee these are all USSSA bats. Sadly we don’t play anything that uses USA. but we are hoping to review some soon!
How are you doing a showdown with no actual data metrics measured? No Average Velo for each bat, and no average distance. So this showdown is simply based on the feel of one player with no actual data? That's not how you test things...
all of the exit velo's are on the website. Did you miss that whole part of the video?
Parents.
1. Hitters can hit, no matter the bat
2. Dont over spend in the -10 space especially
3. 99% of bats are 1 season bats. Get pre owned like he says here
Any 5150, CAT, Omaha, Velo, Solo, S3, XL3...all great bats!
4. If he cant hit, its not the bat
5. Hittting live is not directly proportional to $ spent
Keep the secondary market/budget bat reviews coming. That is where parents need to be.