I went to a custom bike shop that does a lot of slammed rides. He told me to get a hard measurement take them apart and then do what you did but he gave me some pipe to add in as the spacers and cut them until it was as low as I wanted it. Your bike is getting better every time you show it.
Just found your channel and love !! your ride and what your doing. Great videoproduction and informative. Working on my front end and appreciate your video here for lower it. Keep safe and please continue to do these! Thank you!
YOU have inspired me to move forward with my repairs. I hit 3 Deer on my 08 Classic. The stances and look on your Bike is Awesome!!! Thanks for posting this video..!!
@@JETFILMCHANNEL 3 At once. No way I'll give up Riding. 18" Apes and protection bar saved my life @ 60 mph... Makes a humble man for sure... Don't stop Filming!!! Build on the way!!!
Ive been addi g spacers to my dampeners for years to get the lowered look basically what he did . i just cut the spring say 2 inches then add a 2 inch spacer to my dampener . never had a issue and performs as good if not better than stock hight i just use heavy fork oil. After i do this
I just ordered the stock height progressives… after putting Legends REVO-A on the back. I see the disks in the kit (4 total). I think I’ll play a little now. Thx for the vid. As for seasonal working… 2 is 1, 1 is none, in the HD world; so I never go without my wind.
Looks killer. Well done. FYI I had 422s and was running it lowered 2". Stock rear wheel. Had a girl on the back. Made a turn at night and didn't see a dip in the road. Low speed. CLANK. Bottomed out and dinged the primary. Went to SAS air ride on the rear. 2 years. 1100 bux on ebay. No issues and rides way better than the 422s. I check the swing arm bolts every time I change the oil though.
was it not universally known you could lower forks like that? we used to use heavy duty pvc pipe where you used the c clips...cheap cheerful and very effective
DAMMIT!!!! I don't know where the spacers went from my progressive setup.....now I want to do this, anywhere you can think of that would sell only the spacers?
I was told the reason for not being to lower more than 2 inch is because the light bar will hit the front fender. Have you by chance notice if you’ve hit it. I’ve hit mine and don’t even have the front lowered
Not true at all. While installing the air suspension (before) i had the forks totally bottomed out and there was still plenty of clearance, 2-3" minimum.
I have a big dent across my front fender also, but I have a 23" wheel on mine, not lowered though. I am gunna have to put a stop in when I replace the fender.
what ride hight is ground to frame messurements . I just finished my fatboy cholo build my ride hight with no one on the bike is 4inched rear and 5 in the front ground to frame im just curious what yours is. ive built many rigide choppers and bobbers and had low frame to ground clrearence . this is my 1st stock Harley to cholo build I also have spacers in the front fork dampeners when I sit on the bike I may drope about a 1nch closer to the ground but bike doesn't scape ect even with my wife on the back handles great
Hello. Why did you put C spacer at the bottom? Look at the progressive manual, you should put the C spacer at the top of main spring not at top out spring? Can you explain why? I'm a bit confused.:).
To be perfectly honest, I don't remember the exact reason why. I know that I tried many different combinations of C clips in various places but it worked best where I placed them in the film. It was an ongoing modification that took about 6 weeks to get right.
First off you bike is hot and tight. I would kill for a ride like yours. Second your video format and content is awesome. You have deep pockets my friend keep up the good work.
so it ends with a 2 1/2 drop with heavy fork oil?? i just ordered the same suspension. how close from you light bar does your fender gets when hitting big bumps have you noticed? there seems to be still a reasonnable gap.. il be running a 23 tough with fender lifted about an inch
Good stuff man! Now that I have a softail also, I went with the progressive drop in kit which obviously wasn’t enough. I’m gonna go with 2.3” shorter fork tubes to get a drop similar to yours using only the drop in kit.
I’ve been looking into getting 22.25 inch tubes. My stock length is 24.25. I have the progressive mono tube. Will I need a new suspension or will they mono tubes work with the 22.25 tubes?
So J.E.T. When I add the progressive monotone lower kit... 1. put the 3 "C" rings. 2. Add the 1" spring 3. Add the 2" spring 4. Insert the monotube in the fork and tighten. ...Correct?
Yes, exactly. However, like I did it in the film, I wouldn't have all 3 spacers against each other. I'm pretty sure I did 1 spacer on one side of the spring and 2 on the other. ( to avoid a spacer collapsing or shifting due to the "C" opening). Kind of like how you wouldn't want to have piston ring seams lined up with each other. 6 months riding like this and it hasn't given me any issues.
Hi Just watched your video and it seems what you are saying is to lower your Suspension legs you just add more items on and It's lowers down so if you put less items would it raise the suspension
How many spacer tabs did you use? If it's 4 for a 1 inch drop and 2 for A 2 inch drop what would no tabs be or do I have it backwards? Is it the lower Springs that do the lowering?
Let's say that all upper fork sliders are the same length, the factor that will determine the ride height will be the amount of spacing you add to the damper rod. That spacing will limit the upper slider's movement upward to the height that will be allowed by your spacing. It's difficult to explain it without a "cutaway". In short, more spacing at the damper rod = more drop. But compression and rebound start to become an issue when you get too extreme.
What up J.E.T. What progressive lowering kit did you purchase?....and is necessary to purchase the longer fork sliders...if so ....what are/where did you purchase them.
For the fork I'm using the progressive monotubes. Very robust, and definitely better than stock suspension. The larger fork sliders are not necessary, I did that to completely cover the mid-fork hump which I couldn't stand to look at. I think they're made by drag specialities, just do a Google search for fork sliders 2"+
I've never actually touched the frame on a bump. Or even high-centered it on a speed bump. I lowered it because it looks better than the next guys bike with only a 2" drop.
Great videos you post, you explain what your doing in such a way that it’s easy to understand. I have the same 60s tank emblems, my question is: did you have to shape (bend) it to match the contour of your tank? I’d hate to break mine. Any help would be much appreciated.
Thank you. They'll fit perfectly in the right spot. Too far forward or back and they might not fit the curvature. Just take your time to find the magic spot
I put a 21" wheel on my Deluxe last year and low and behold the front end bottomed out and I dented my front fender. Im getting ready to redo the front forks and drop it 1.5" but im concerned about caving in my front fender again. Any thoughts? Did you leave the 2+ beer cans on when you lowered the front?
Ugh, that's a bummer. Did you use a fender riser when you mounted your 21"? I get a lot of questions about that, they're unnecessary for a 21" and only add risk to denting the fender. Fortunately there's an easy fix with bump stop disks. Dirty Air sells them, they just sit on top of your lower fork leg and prevent anything from touching. I continued to run the +2" slider covers even when I lowered it 2.5" without anything touching. But I definitely recommend those bump stops, they're cheap, and you'll never have to worry again
@@JETFILMCHANNEL I do have a fender riser on the bike. i'll remove the riser and check out the bump stops. Keep doin what you're doing. Thanks for keeping it real.
Are those progressive springs added to stock fork tubes or are the forks altered to a certain degree before adding the progressive mono tube lowering kit?
They're progressive monotube shocks installed in the forks. The forks tubes aren't stock, but they're the same configuration as stock and no altering of the fork tubes is needed for this. In reality the only thing I did was add more C clips and use different fork oil. But it took about 6 weeks to figure it out and test it before I made the film.
Bro now they’re gonna make money off your idea with those clips ! The bike is getting sicker tho can’t wait to have deluxe or road king, traded my iron after 3 months of owning it got a street bob I’m making my way up might fuck around and do some gánster style anyway love your vids bro wish they were longer it’s like I’m waiting for the next episode to your season also what’s up with your buddy’s roadking looking forward to see that one too. ✌🏼
Thanks man, I've seen some really tricked out street bobs that looked awesome. More content to come. Sam is currently finishing the "belt" job, which required some additional work. I believe wheels are going on next, I hope to do a film on that soon
I have watch all ur viedo and u inspire me to have a drive to get my bike going o love then cail gangster Solftail style. Growing up in San Diego that's all u will see I told my self I'll get me one when I grow up . Now I got a something heritage and a road King. Fixing to bulit me a cholo gangsters style . Thanks bro for the inspiration. I know what u mean when u say if u want something bad enough u will make it happen . Damn I got a bad ass bike
So someone brought up a similar question earlier. The longer cans will not contact the fender support on the fork, even when the shocks have bottomed out, I checked.
Its tech your fault i finally went out and bought the Heritage after seeing your cholo build, I did settle on Samson exhausts like yourself, gave them feedback they had you to thank.... hoping to have mine finished by around March April time, should standout since I'm based in the UK 🇬🇧 😀
Damn dude, that's awesome! Heritige is a great platform to build off of. Sounds like you'll be busy if you want it done by April. The 4 main ingredients- bars, wheels, exhaust, suspension. Everything else is pretty easy/quick.
You mean the fork slider cover? Yes. If you're worried about the slider cover contacting the fender mount then you could add bump stops. But just know, that I've bottomed this suspension out and they still don't touch
They're made by Drag Specialties. $50 and they're great. With sliders there's really no such thing as cheaping out because even these, the simple smooth chrome design looks great. And they'll last forever because they're not carrying any load, or stressed in any way after the install. Found them on Ebay BTW
@@JETFILMCHANNEL Thanks so much man! You’ve really inspired me with all the videos you post and I should have my bike where I want it by summer! Keep the videos coming! -from Indiana btw
Oddly, it's slightly less pipe scraping but my floorboards do get closer to touching more often. Simply, if the front goes down the back comes up. Think of it like weight in a row boat. But the pipes stick way out so any change will be magnified. In this case the front went down about 1/2-3/4 of an inch, that could translate into a full inch at the exhaust tips. I should have measured for the video to show the difference.
@@JETFILMCHANNEL wrong.. if you lower the front say one inch and it's say 6 feet to the rear axle you would have to have some thing that runs out 6 feet behind the rear axle to have a 1 inch rise . ... the rear axle would be your pivot point.. a see saw is the example you were looking for .. .. but you have the magnification part backwards.. . How ever . Yes if your exhaust runs out past the rear axle .. it would get a slight lift by lower the front .. .. half inch on the forks mabe.. eighth inch rise on the exhaust tip
I think you're first person to ask about that. It's a 1975 Honda cb750. Picked it up a few years ago in CT. I ride it every once and a while, but she's very temperamental.
Awesome video quality overall and epic bike! I got a deluxe as well.. my pops keeps teasing me to do it cholo style...maybe one day. Have you considered getting a single piece of delrin or other strong polymer to be made in the shape of those 3 shims? Figure it'd be a cheap way to make it all one piece.
It's impossible to say because I altered the suspension. And I didn't test different kinds of oils with the new suspension. Maybe I can try that in the spring, I might be able to get away with 15w. But with less travel, the only reasonable solution would be to thicken the dampening oil.
Sweet Bikes.. But My Harley loves being Ridden in Winter.. Just rode through 2 Fake Ass shit 'Lockdowns'! .. I love to Ride. 67YRS And loving Motorcycling. FTW. Used to Run a Motorcycle Rock Bar.. Just for the Hell of it! 🍻🔥🔥🔥
You do realize that any time you have a pivot point between a driven wheel and a drive wheel there will be a tension change on the belt or chain as the suspension loads and unloads right ? Also if you are running a chain ...chains stretch ..and they don't stretch evenly ..meaning it will be tighter in some spots than others.. the proper way to adjust with chain drive is to lift the rear wheel off the g r ound .. rotate the wheel and find the tightest spot .. then ou the bike back on the ground and put anticipated load on the bike so the suspension is loaded... now adjust the chain slack ..
Thanks man, yeah the 16" gangsters, 1.25 thick. The width is great, doesn't feel too wide or too narrow, it's just right. I believe it's a 41" width, but who's counting.
Love the videos 👍 watch all of them love the bike as well fn cool man. I’m working on my 2017 Harley heritage so hard to make it a colo … I just don’t have no one down here in pa that can paint my back fender .. doing most of the work . Any one up there can paint I can send my fender up there I have the turquoise and white with the candy flake in it I need somebody that can get the paint code from Marley and match it up I need a ride and come up there and see you get you to teach me a few things here I’m getting old and 57 I always rode motorcycles since I was 10Had several Harley’s I’m just out of touch right now like I said love the videos learning a lot anybody up that way you can paint my fender let me know I’m going to get a Bad Dad stretch bender thanks for all the videos
Try "xecution style", I think he's in Jersey. He does some of the best paint work I've ever seen. I also have a new painter I'm using in the Bronx, but if you ask a local indy bike shop they may be able to point you to somebody local
Moving forward, you can eliminate the possibility of a "hit" by adding the ringed bump stops by dirty air to stop fork compression just before it would hit something. It's a cheap failsafe that works great. I just started using them with my new front-end setup and they're worth every penny
Drop in is springs and spacers. The monotube is a whole assembly in one piece. It's a little better than the drop in, more sturdy, more consistent and predictable. But naturally costs more
With your standard lowering spring 2 inch drop, and 2 inch extended cans, what’s the chances on full compression the cans hitting the fender mount, if any ?
Excellent question, and I did talk about that but for some reason I cut that part out (probably to keep the video from being an hour long) In short, it will NOT touch. I tried bottoming it out before I took it for a ride, and then while riding I tried to bottom it out which I believe I did, then checked the bottoms of the cans and the fender supports and there weren't any marks to suggest it made any contact. Ill see if I can get a measured answer for you by bottoming it out with some ratchet straps.
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Finally someone out there willing to explain how to do this. This is exactly what I need to do!
That's kinda why I made the film. Couldn't find any info on the subject
I went to a custom bike shop that does a lot of slammed rides. He told me to get a hard measurement take them apart and then do what you did but he gave me some pipe to add in as the spacers and cut them until it was as low as I wanted it. Your bike is getting better every time you show it.
Thanks Ed, and good luck. I'm sure pipe will work just fine.
What size diameter and type of pipe? I have been thinking about doing it this way as well. Thanks
@@bittsix.7 I sold that bike and all the parts I had. I can’t remember the diameter but when you take it apart you can see what size it with take.
@@edwardpoff575ok. Thank you for the reply!
I love it when somebody says it can't be done...ha
All the more reason to prove them wrong
@@JETFILMCHANNEL that's right
Just ordered my progressive kit yesterday for my 2010 Road King, and then today stumbled into your channel- great Job, glad I found it!
You're crazy guero... Love your videos....They're fu**** awesome... keep it up bro... from California...
Thanks bro
Just found your channel and love !! your ride and what your doing. Great videoproduction and informative. Working on my front end and appreciate your video here for lower it. Keep safe and please continue to do these! Thank you!
YOU have inspired me to move forward with my repairs. I hit 3 Deer on my 08 Classic. The stances and look on your Bike is Awesome!!! Thanks for posting this video..!!
Damn Joe, 3 deer!? In 1 shot, or multiple instances? Glad to hear that you haven't given up on riding as a result. Build that bike back up!!
@@JETFILMCHANNEL 3 At once.
No way I'll give up Riding.
18" Apes and protection bar saved my life @ 60 mph... Makes a humble man for sure... Don't stop Filming!!! Build on the way!!!
You're a trooper! Films will continue
Ive been addi g spacers to my dampeners for years to get the lowered look basically what he did . i just cut the spring say 2 inches then add a 2 inch spacer to my dampener . never had a issue and performs as good if not better than stock hight i just use heavy fork oil. After i do this
I just ordered the stock height progressives… after putting Legends REVO-A on the back. I see the disks in the kit (4 total).
I think I’ll play a little now.
Thx for the vid.
As for seasonal working… 2 is 1, 1 is none, in the HD world; so I never go without my wind.
Looks killer. Well done. FYI I had 422s and was running it lowered 2". Stock rear wheel. Had a girl on the back. Made a turn at night and didn't see a dip in the road. Low speed. CLANK. Bottomed out and dinged the primary. Went to SAS air ride on the rear. 2 years. 1100 bux on ebay. No issues and rides way better than the 422s. I check the swing arm bolts every time I change the oil though.
Damn, I've never scraped the frame. But finally ordered air suspension about a week ago. Can't wait to try it out
Bro, your videos are getting better and better keep up the good work💪🏾
Thanks Rick
Bro, you have a bad ass gangster bike! Love the music on your video’s. Keep it coming.
Bro! That cholo is great! Thrilled to see the rear crash bars are gone. 👍🏻
Awesome scooter and the best Video on the Tube
Did your Progressive lowering kit not come with a pvc pipe that you can cut in order to lower it?
i believe that’s with the lowing kit and not the mono tube lowering kit
I'm really digging your videos Brother!!! From New Mexico, Stay safe and stay blessed.
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Such a bad ass looking bike. Great job fella!!
You should check out the layframe video I did on it last summer. Turned the dial to 11 on this bike.
Outstanding HACK.... some serious creativity.. and to those who said it
cant' be done IN YO FACE...
Hey man love ur bike.
Can u give us the link of the longer forks sliders I love em.
Dude that’s BADASS💯….Trying to see what’s cheaper-flying you to Mississippi To Do RK like yours, Or Me Coming to your Garage🤟
was it not universally known you could lower forks like that? we used to use heavy duty pvc pipe where you used the c clips...cheap cheerful and very effective
Bwahahahhhaa. "Whats all the fuss about? I dont get it." Perfect!
Did this on my Deluxe yesterday. Looks sick! Haven't had it on the road yet, but it looks amazing!
Yeah, that little extra makes a big difference. And it separates you from the herd.
Looks super clean bro !! That drop just made the bike that much better bro!
DAMMIT!!!! I don't know where the spacers went from my progressive setup.....now I want to do this, anywhere you can think of that would sell only the spacers?
Not sure but you could buy piping to use as spacers instead. Probably wouldn't cost much and you could cut it to the exact size you wanted.
Happy New Year!
That's the best bike I've ever seen.
I'm going to watch your great channel again.
👍👍👍🤝🤝🤝🤙👌
Thank you and happy new year
Love it! Looking for a Softail Deluxe to build through this summer / winter right now.
Hoooooly foooooook this bike is og and the owners just a complete legend keep doing u
I was told the reason for not being to lower more than 2 inch is because the light bar will hit the front fender. Have you by chance notice if you’ve hit it. I’ve hit mine and don’t even have the front lowered
Not true at all. While installing the air suspension (before) i had the forks totally bottomed out and there was still plenty of clearance, 2-3" minimum.
In reality, the reason for 2" max fork lowering is corporate liability.
I have a big dent across my front fender also, but I have a 23" wheel on mine, not lowered though. I am gunna have to put a stop in when I replace the fender.
Where did you find the longer beer cans?
How many inches are in between the top of the fender and the mustache bar?
Thanks
Can I lower it further than 2 inches? No? lol
She’s looking Badass, bro! Good video and thanks for the info.
Well done, gorgeous bike man
what ride hight is ground to frame messurements . I just finished my fatboy cholo build my ride hight with no one on the bike is 4inched rear and 5 in the front ground to frame im just curious what yours is. ive built many rigide choppers and bobbers and had low frame to ground clrearence . this is my 1st stock Harley to cholo build I also have spacers in the front fork dampeners when I sit on the bike I may drope about a 1nch closer to the ground but bike doesn't scape ect even with my wife on the back handles great
Hello. Why did you put C spacer at the bottom? Look at the progressive manual, you should put the C spacer at the top of main spring not at top out spring? Can you explain why? I'm a bit confused.:).
To be perfectly honest, I don't remember the exact reason why. I know that I tried many different combinations of C clips in various places but it worked best where I placed them in the film. It was an ongoing modification that took about 6 weeks to get right.
@@JETFILMCHANNEL is it hard? Harsh ride?
2.5" drop? Yeah, it's pretty hard. But it looks better than the 2" drop
This is gold!! How did it hold up 2 years later? any issues??
Hi mate, can you write me the name of this lower front kit? thank you, John from Belgium
Soft engraving on a few parts would look sick 👌🏽
Dope sled homie
🤘🏽 🇲🇽🇺🇸California
I’m wondering how many times you’ve disassemble and put your bike back together? Crazy!! But amazing!!
Ugh, too many times. Too many skinned knuckles. But it's a truly satisfying experience to work on the bike, it makes me feel more connected with it
First off you bike is hot and tight. I would kill for a ride like yours. Second your video format and content is awesome. You have deep pockets my friend keep up the good work.
Thanks Dave, I appreciate the good vibes. Make no mistake though, I didn't build this bike overnight, its been a little over 3 years (no "RUB" here)
Contact a Cnc machiner make a kit and sell em bro ! Great work
You're on to something
You have a 21inch front wheel correct
What if it where 23inch with a bigger longer guard?
Great video tho love your work
You had me at Quantum Flux 🤘🏻
so it ends with a 2 1/2 drop with heavy fork oil?? i just ordered the same suspension. how close from you light bar does your fender gets when hitting big bumps have you noticed? there seems to be still a reasonnable gap.. il be running a 23 tough with fender lifted about an inch
Cool out man, Max Ireland
Dam bro she looking real good
Winter to me is hunting whitetails, I really should break it up and do more work on my bikes.
I'm a deer hunter as well, got some films on this channel of our hunts too. But my season ends mid December, so after that it's bike modding season
Good stuff man! Now that I have a softail also, I went with the progressive drop in kit which obviously wasn’t enough. I’m gonna go with 2.3” shorter fork tubes to get a drop similar to yours using only the drop in kit.
Nice man, I've got a new method now for a front end drop. Going to get a film on it this spring.
@@JETFILMCHANNEL sounds sweet man! Your videography is off the chain. I aspire to make films like you, I’ll also make a video doing the fork tube swap
I’ve been looking into getting 22.25 inch tubes. My stock length is 24.25. I have the progressive mono tube. Will I need a new suspension or will they mono tubes work with the 22.25 tubes?
@@IndoorGolfGuru they should still work, just your springs might make a difference
Killer bike and video! Thanks
Look the fuck out you just started something. Oh yeah !!!
Nice brother winter in Canada gives us time to build!!
Haha tis the season
The intro edits🔥
So J.E.T.
When I add the progressive monotone lower kit...
1. put the 3 "C" rings.
2. Add the 1" spring
3. Add the 2" spring
4. Insert the monotube in the fork and tighten.
...Correct?
Yes, exactly. However, like I did it in the film, I wouldn't have all 3 spacers against each other. I'm pretty sure I did 1 spacer on one side of the spring and 2 on the other. ( to avoid a spacer collapsing or shifting due to the "C" opening).
Kind of like how you wouldn't want to have piston ring seams lined up with each other.
6 months riding like this and it hasn't given me any issues.
Great work honestly hands down ur video are very great and helpful thank you
Hi Just watched your video and it seems what you are saying is to lower your Suspension legs you just add more items on and It's lowers down so if you put less items would it raise the suspension
In short, yes
what neck gator is that? im trying to keep warm out here
Is there going to be a touch of engraving going on that Cholo just like some tattoos
Nah, no engraving. Not really my thing.
Do u add the same quantity of folk oil when its lowered n not?
Love your attitude bro !!!!
"no, you can't" Watch me mudda fugga! ...WooHoo!!
Love when people say "you can't"
Since you have lowered the front forks more than 2 inches have you had any problems
No problems at all, it's just a little harder of a ride. Worth it though, because it's lowest softail front end I've ever seen on conventional shocks
How much did that that cost anyway to send me a link to the stuff?
How many spacer tabs did you use? If it's 4 for a 1 inch drop and 2 for A 2 inch drop what would no tabs be or do I have it backwards? Is it the lower Springs that do the lowering?
Let's say that all upper fork sliders are the same length, the factor that will determine the ride height will be the amount of spacing you add to the damper rod. That spacing will limit the upper slider's movement upward to the height that will be allowed by your spacing. It's difficult to explain it without a "cutaway". In short, more spacing at the damper rod = more drop. But compression and rebound start to become an issue when you get too extreme.
With you man low and slow nice video
Thanks George!
What up J.E.T.
What progressive lowering kit did you purchase?....and is necessary to purchase the longer fork sliders...if so ....what are/where did you purchase them.
For the fork I'm using the progressive monotubes. Very robust, and definitely better than stock suspension. The larger fork sliders are not necessary, I did that to completely cover the mid-fork hump which I couldn't stand to look at. I think they're made by drag specialities, just do a Google search for fork sliders 2"+
@@JETFILMCHANNEL Your the man J.E.T.
I will pick your brain another time.
But why lower it? Doesn't that damage the bottom of the bike when you hit bumps?
I've never actually touched the frame on a bump. Or even high-centered it on a speed bump. I lowered it because it looks better than the next guys bike with only a 2" drop.
Great videos you post, you explain what your doing in such a way that it’s easy to understand. I have the same 60s tank emblems, my question is: did you have to shape (bend) it to match the contour of your tank? I’d hate to break mine. Any help would be much appreciated.
Thank you. They'll fit perfectly in the right spot. Too far forward or back and they might not fit the curvature. Just take your time to find the magic spot
@@JETFILMCHANNEL thanks for the reply, I’ll work on it this weekend.
I have a 2015 Heritage do I need to raise the front fender for 21 inch tire ? Thanks
Nope, a 21 will fit in the stock fender without any modification
I put a 21" wheel on my Deluxe last year and low and behold the front end bottomed out and I dented my front fender. Im getting ready to redo the front forks and drop it 1.5" but im concerned about caving in my front fender again. Any thoughts? Did you leave the 2+ beer cans on when you lowered the front?
Ugh, that's a bummer. Did you use a fender riser when you mounted your 21"? I get a lot of questions about that, they're unnecessary for a 21" and only add risk to denting the fender.
Fortunately there's an easy fix with bump stop disks. Dirty Air sells them, they just sit on top of your lower fork leg and prevent anything from touching.
I continued to run the +2" slider covers even when I lowered it 2.5" without anything touching.
But I definitely recommend those bump stops, they're cheap, and you'll never have to worry again
@@JETFILMCHANNEL I do have a fender riser on the bike. i'll remove the riser and check out the bump stops. Keep doin what you're doing. Thanks for keeping it real.
Nice job buddy. Good video again. Stay warm lol
company name plz for the suspension
Best Intro's and music
Are those progressive springs added to stock fork tubes or are the forks altered to a certain degree before adding the progressive mono tube lowering kit?
They're progressive monotube shocks installed in the forks. The forks tubes aren't stock, but they're the same configuration as stock and no altering of the fork tubes is needed for this.
In reality the only thing I did was add more C clips and use different fork oil. But it took about 6 weeks to figure it out and test it before I made the film.
Bro now they’re gonna make money off your idea with those clips ! The bike is getting sicker tho can’t wait to have deluxe or road king, traded my iron after 3 months of owning it got a street bob I’m making my way up might fuck around and do some gánster style anyway love your vids bro wish they were longer it’s like I’m waiting for the next episode to your season also what’s up with your buddy’s roadking looking forward to see that one too. ✌🏼
Thanks man, I've seen some really tricked out street bobs that looked awesome. More content to come. Sam is currently finishing the "belt" job, which required some additional work. I believe wheels are going on next, I hope to do a film on that soon
Man bro u are very crafty and persistent I respect u for that . I'm going to lower my heritage like u do with that c clips
Thanks. It was one of those things (if you want something bad enough, you'll figure out a way to get it)
I have watch all ur viedo and u inspire me to have a drive to get my bike going o love then cail gangster Solftail style. Growing up in San Diego that's all u will see I told my self I'll get me one when I grow up . Now I got a something heritage and a road King. Fixing to bulit me a cholo gangsters style . Thanks bro for the inspiration. I know what u mean when u say if u want something bad enough u will make it happen . Damn I got a bad ass bike
Hey bro I for got to ask u . Did u got air ride on ur rear bike . If not what I use to lowing it
No air ride. Im using the progressive 422's in the rear
@@JETFILMCHANNEL thanks bro . how many inch dose it it drop using 422?
Can you post a link to the longer bear cans ..thanks
www.partsgiant.com/p346435-harddrive-fork-slider-covers?m=6502785&gclid=Cj0KCQiAlMCOBhCZARIsANLid6bMI7FPwFZKiBAnSmGjIe70ptkT7KMLbD9BjV6GRe1QWbcVNhYp3r8aAhhGEALw_wcB&f=118142
@@JETFILMCHANNEL : thanks… keep up the awesome how to’s and why nots !!!
John, what's it like under heavy braking?? Especially with those longer cans ?? Looks great tho 👌
So someone brought up a similar question earlier. The longer cans will not contact the fender support on the fork, even when the shocks have bottomed out, I checked.
Its tech your fault i finally went out and bought the Heritage after seeing your cholo build, I did settle on Samson exhausts like yourself, gave them feedback they had you to thank.... hoping to have mine finished by around March April time, should standout since I'm based in the UK 🇬🇧 😀
Damn dude, that's awesome! Heritige is a great platform to build off of. Sounds like you'll be busy if you want it done by April. The 4 main ingredients- bars, wheels, exhaust, suspension. Everything else is pretty easy/quick.
@@JETFILMCHANNEL my dear
I just ordered wheels for my Softail deluxe 2012
I need your help in lower kit 2”
I can’t decide which one I can buy
Hey John, when you did the testing, did you have the extended Fork Sliders installed?
You mean the fork slider cover? Yes.
If you're worried about the slider cover contacting the fender mount then you could add bump stops. But just know, that I've bottomed this suspension out and they still don't touch
@@JETFILMCHANNEL I gotcha, I’m working on my second bike so just wanted to be sure 🤙🏽
Thx bro best tip ever🔥👌
What brand of beer cans did you get? I wanna get me a pair but want to make sure I don’t get some cheap pair.
They're made by Drag Specialties. $50 and they're great. With sliders there's really no such thing as cheaping out because even these, the simple smooth chrome design looks great. And they'll last forever because they're not carrying any load, or stressed in any way after the install. Found them on Ebay BTW
@@JETFILMCHANNEL Thanks so much man! You’ve really inspired me with all the videos you post and I should have my bike where I want it by summer! Keep the videos coming!
-from Indiana btw
What brand is the speedometer you put on your bike? I couldn't find the video.
It's made by harley. Just Google "harley speedo tach combo"
But make sure you buy one that fits your exact bike
A wise woman once told me “Where there’s will there’s a Mother F*kN way”
That's a wise woman
How have you found the handling since adding in the spacers? Are you getting more scrapes on your boards abd pipes?
Oddly, it's slightly less pipe scraping but my floorboards do get closer to touching more often.
Simply, if the front goes down the back comes up. Think of it like weight in a row boat.
But the pipes stick way out so any change will be magnified. In this case the front went down about 1/2-3/4 of an inch, that could translate into a full inch at the exhaust tips.
I should have measured for the video to show the difference.
@@JETFILMCHANNEL wrong.. if you lower the front say one inch and it's say 6 feet to the rear axle you would have to have some thing that runs out 6 feet behind the rear axle to have a 1 inch rise .
... the rear axle would be your pivot point.. a see saw is the example you were looking for .. .. but you have the magnification part backwards.. . How ever . Yes if your exhaust runs out past the rear axle .. it would get a slight lift by lower the front .. .. half inch on the forks mabe.. eighth inch rise on the exhaust tip
What's the story with that cool cafe racer in the back?
I think you're first person to ask about that. It's a 1975 Honda cb750. Picked it up a few years ago in CT. I ride it every once and a while, but she's very temperamental.
Awesome video quality overall and epic bike! I got a deluxe as well.. my pops keeps teasing me to do it cholo style...maybe one day. Have you considered getting a single piece of delrin or other strong polymer to be made in the shape of those 3 shims? Figure it'd be a cheap way to make it all one piece.
All in 1 piece would be nice, but its also nice to be able to remove/add one if necessary
Did you notice any difference using the 20 wt oil?
It's impossible to say because I altered the suspension. And I didn't test different kinds of oils with the new suspension. Maybe I can try that in the spring, I might be able to get away with 15w.
But with less travel, the only reasonable solution would be to thicken the dampening oil.
Just freaking Badass bike
My dream bike....
Sweet Bikes.. But My Harley loves being Ridden in Winter.. Just rode through 2 Fake Ass shit 'Lockdowns'! .. I love to Ride. 67YRS And loving Motorcycling. FTW. Used to Run a Motorcycle Rock Bar.. Just for the Hell of it! 🍻🔥🔥🔥
Who are you? Lol good job! you inspire me to do more, I enjoy your videos.
Haha thanks Paul
Question
Have 04 heritage 21”fr 18”r everything is line up runs fantastic BUT have like it sounds like belt whine on DE acceleration
Check the belt tension. And also check surrounding surfaces to make sure the belt isn't rubbing, particularly on the side of the tire
You do realize that any time you have a pivot point between a driven wheel and a drive wheel there will be a tension change on the belt or chain as the suspension loads and unloads right ? Also if you are running a chain ...chains stretch ..and they don't stretch evenly ..meaning it will be tighter in some spots than others.. the proper way to adjust with chain drive is to lift the rear wheel off the g r ound .. rotate the wheel and find the tightest spot .. then ou the bike back on the ground and put anticipated load on the bike so the suspension is loaded... now adjust the chain slack ..
Those are the gangster apes? How is it with the 40 " width? Very inspirational channel man.
Thanks man, yeah the 16" gangsters, 1.25 thick. The width is great, doesn't feel too wide or too narrow, it's just right. I believe it's a 41" width, but who's counting.
@@JETFILMCHANNEL Yup... I'm sold. That was just what needed to be heard. 😌 Keep up the amazing creativity and thanks for all the insight. 🤙
@@JETFILMCHANNEL 😄
Why did you use 20w oil
More dampening because of increased spring pressures
Love the videos 👍 watch all of them love the bike as well fn cool man. I’m working on my 2017 Harley heritage so hard to make it a colo … I just don’t have no one down here in pa that can paint my back fender .. doing most of the work . Any one up there can paint I can send my fender up there I have the turquoise and white with the candy flake in it I need somebody that can get the paint code from Marley and match it up I need a ride and come up there and see you get you to teach me a few things here I’m getting old and 57 I always rode motorcycles since I was 10Had several Harley’s I’m just out of touch right now like I said love the videos learning a lot anybody up that way you can paint my fender let me know I’m going to get a Bad Dad stretch bender thanks for all the videos
Try "xecution style", I think he's in Jersey. He does some of the best paint work I've ever seen. I also have a new painter I'm using in the Bronx, but if you ask a local indy bike shop they may be able to point you to somebody local
How are you not hitting your fender on your trash bar I already have a dent in my fender. I have a 1 inch riser on the fender
The riser is probably the reason your fender is hitting. What size front wheel do you have?
@@JETFILMCHANNEL 21” dna
You shouldn't need a fender riser with a 21. Didn't use a riser with either of my bikes with 21" wheels, fit perfectly with room to spare.
Moving forward, you can eliminate the possibility of a "hit" by adding the ringed bump stops by dirty air to stop fork compression just before it would hit something. It's a cheap failsafe that works great. I just started using them with my new front-end setup and they're worth every penny
@@JETFILMCHANNEL OK thank you I appreciate the info
Currently in the process of looking for a bike to cholo chopper out 🤘🏼🤘🏼
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Hey man good video. Where did you get that helmet??
Oh man, it was years ago. Can't remember. But type in "Novelty Helmet" thats what it is.
So those are not the drop in lowering kit is it.
Its the progressive monotube
@@JETFILMCHANNEL what's the difference between the monotube and the drop in.
Drop in is springs and spacers. The monotube is a whole assembly in one piece. It's a little better than the drop in, more sturdy, more consistent and predictable. But naturally costs more
I've used both, and the drop in is great too. Gets the job done
@@JETFILMCHANNEL thanks John I think I'm going with the mono.
So I take it you had to get extra clips from Progressive ?
Also who manufactures the longer fork cans ?
Drag specialties makes the cans, and I had enough c clips from progressive that came with the original kit. I believe it came with 8 total
With your standard lowering spring 2 inch drop, and 2 inch extended cans, what’s the chances on full compression the cans hitting the fender mount, if any ?
Excellent question, and I did talk about that but for some reason I cut that part out (probably to keep the video from being an hour long)
In short, it will NOT touch. I tried bottoming it out before I took it for a ride, and then while riding I tried to bottom it out which I believe I did, then checked the bottoms of the cans and the fender supports and there weren't any marks to suggest it made any contact. Ill see if I can get a measured answer for you by bottoming it out with some ratchet straps.