The World Over January 11, 2024 | "BLESSINGS" CONTROVERSY: The Papal Posse with Raymond Arroyo
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- Robert Royal & Fr. Gerald Murray on the latest news from the Vatican including the growing international resistance by bishops' conferences to the Vatican’s directive on blessings of same sex couples, and the controversy surrounding a salacious book written years ago by the current head of the Vatican's doctrinal office, Victor Cardinal Fernandez.
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What does it say about a Holy Father who picks a man like Fernandez as second in command? It is both tragic and frightening, No man rises to so high a position without being known and throughly vetted. He had to be known for who he really is.
I taught in Catholic schools for 22 years and I’ve made my share of mistakes, believe me. But if I ever even dreamed of writing such a horrible thing I’d be gone and no one would defend me. This is really sick and it makes me really sick too. I love the Church and she needs to be protected not humiliated by the men who are her moral authorities.
It says the "holy father" is a freaking pervert. Can we hope this evil man wil resign the papacy he is destroying????
It says Bergoglio is the same as these sick perverts.
Africans say, "A fruit doesn't fall very far away from the tree." Pray for this Pontificate.
The VERY SAD truth is if you wrote the book today it would be lauded. I don't think people actually know what books are kicking around our school libraries in 2024. I pray for the Holy Father and the Church always, but the truth is the Pope and his closest counselors are progressive, liberal people....who have succumbed to the intense pressure campaign by German and French bishops and the LGBT crowd. Sick.
Well said!!
Very perplexing! Fr Pavone, Fr Altman, Bishop Strickland, Cardinal Burke and so many other good, faithful, holy priests and Bishops are cancelled or taken out of ministry for defending life, for alerting the faithful not to vote for politicians who promote, profess, and defend, anti Catholic ideologies, tell the faithful the true teachings of our faith, of Jesus Christ, as handed down by the apostles for over 2,000 yrs etc. Today, there’s so much confusion, darkness and painfully disturbing statements coming from the Vatican that I feel for our children as they will face the prophecy of Akita, “Cardinal against Cardinal, Bishop against Bishop and priest against priest.” May God continue to have mercy on us and on the whole world. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Scandalous - exposing filth to innocent minds is worse than disgusting.
Yes I agree. Shame on those who have made this obscure book readily available on the internet to sow schism and scandal in people’s hearts.
Thank you for speaking with clarity!
Fernandez and Francis should both resign pronto.
This is disturbing that a Cardinal would write this evil trash..
He's a pervert who covered up homosexual rapist priest in his home country. The English speaking catholic media has ignored that.
Showing his true colors. Shame on Francis elevating the trash
Father Gerard Murray is an inspiration
He really is, isn't he. I thank God for him; so many cowed priests and bishops.
God Bless the Papal Possee! WOW! It is so wonderful to hear the TRUTH spoken, and I am so grateful to Raymond, Fr Murray, and Robert for speaking up bravely and courageously in defense of the True Teachings of Our Lord Jesus Christ! Fr Murray is a model for all Priests, and his voice is truly needed now more than ever! Raymond, Mother Angelica would be proud of you for staying true to her vision for the network, and not caving in to modernism and the NWO. God Bless the Papal Posse! 🙏🙏🙏
This programme is bias , most of the programmes are critical of the pope and the Vatican. You might think you are doing it to the pope or the cardinal but you are actually doing it to the church it self thus harming the churches image .
One excuse that Cardinal Fernandez has offered for his book La Pasion Mistica is that it was written in his "youth". This is not a credible defense because it was published in 1998 when he was 36 years old. Not only was his biological age well past the age of majority but his understanding was well developed as he had received his licentiate in theology 10 years before the book was published. This book cannot be regarded as a youthful indiscretion; it was written by a middle-aged man who should have known better after completing seminary and his graduate studies.
Cardinal Sarah for Pope!!! And I love these Gents! What a great Catholic group of faithful men. I wish they would meet daily in a podcast. I’d listen regularly
That is who I want for pope!
Cardinal Sarah or Arinze!!
Agree
Pray that the successor of Francis is a true Catholic. We are living in evil times. I live in a small village in South Africa and when I first arrived here I was astounded by the sexual immortality in all age groups. 🙏 is the only refuge order to keep ones sanity.
I understand your desire for that but this isn’t a presidential election, the laity does not have any bearing on who the pope is.
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Thank God for Fr. Murray. He is a holy, stalwart priest.
Fr. Murray as a candidate for the PhD at Gregorian University in Rome wrote his dissertation in defense of Absp. Marcel LeFebvre for having tried to preserve the Latin Mass, the Mass of the Ages, by ordaining bishops which happened to be 10:20 shortly before he died. He and Cdl. Otoviani were treated quite rudely at Vatican II Council meetings.
@@johnholmes6667 "An examination of the circumstances in which Archbishop Lefebvre proceeded to consecrate bishops in light of canons 1321, 1323 and 1324 raises at least a significant doubt if not a reasonable certainty against the validity of the declaration of excommunication pronounced by the Congregation of Bishops.”
God bless you brothers. We can be approved by the world or approved by God. Not both! Choose today whom you will serve.
Unhealthy preoccupations! I’m telling you…Father Murray fan club! Seriously though, Father, you are so grounded in your faith and intellect and strong in your devotion to the teachings of our Lord and holy Mother Church. Thank you. “Cardinal” Fernandez should be ashamed and most certainly NOT holding the position he does. Nothing like nepotism in the church. We must pray ardently for the Pope, Bishops, Priests and all the Clergy.
The guy is th e Vatican's Hugh Hefner
@@anairenemartinez165 I can’t think of anything after this but how did he get to be there in the first place?
I look to Father Murray for the Catholic truth . Raymond you are always on top of your game . The posse is the show to watch on ewtn
It is the only show on EWTN that promotes schism.
Our Lord Jesus must be so offended to witness a chosen son (Fernandez) insulting His virginal, sinless, gentle Mother Mary. Oh Sorrowful Mother, pray for us. Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.
The Cardinal has got to go !!!! NOW
I was confirmed into the Catholic faith less than 2 years ago, and it was the happiest day of my life! I had been told for decades the Church didn't want me or wouldn't take me because I had been divorced and had been an Episcopalian. I am penitent for my sins and still atoning. I pray that Jesus will restore the Church and give us a true Pope! These things, eg. (Fernandez) heresies, make me sick in my heart.
If you’re refusing submission to Pope Francis’ authority and refusing to be in Communion with those who do submit to the Pope’s authority, then a person has committed the mortal sin of schism. Schism carries with it an automatic excommunication as penalty. That means one is no longer Catholic, one is cut off from the physical and mystical body of Christ forever until one repents and completes whatever steps the confessor instructs, which sometimes includes going to one’s Bishop. Do not be deceived. I am also an Episcopalian convert and I believed all Taylor Marshall’s lies. Taylor Marshall constantly promotes notorious schismatic Archbishop Vigano who is a public sedevacantist and was recently conditionally ordained by the excommunicated Bishop Williamson. I would encourage you to stop watching filth from enemies of the Church.
May God have mercy on the clergy that do not denounce this blasphemy…
Bob: it's no "mystery" as to how Fernandez could have ascended to his current position without having been outed first. He is there because he is so compromised; his unrepentant sin renders him more vulnerable to influence and control.
Pope Frances Had No Business Making Fernandez a Cardinal the Chair of Saint Peter is Absolutely Empty this declaration from Pope Francis Should be Thrown Out Altogether! Thank You Father Gerald Murray & God Bless the Papal Posse! ⛪
Mr Arroyo- thanks to you, Fr Murray and Mr Royal! What is so refreshing about the Papal Posse is the clear, unhistrionic, focussed, logical discussions that you and the team are able to conduct about quite sensitive topics. I am going to say this in a public forum. Very disappointed in Bishop Broglio and the USCCB; really weak response to what should be an all hands on deck moment to address a crisis in the Church. Pretty useless, emasculated bunch, our bishops.
Birds of the same feather flock together. That's why Francis promoted Fernandez. Elementary Watson
Terrific discussion, thank you.
Thanks for the moral clarity. The picture of why we are in such moral confusion in our Church is getting more apparent each day. We are witnessing the prophecy of Fatima coming true in the decisive battle between the Kingdom of God and Satan over marriage and family. Pray that we remain steadfast in faith to defend the sanctity of marriage like Saints Bishop Fisher, Thomas More, and John the Baptist shedding their blood for Christ. The world is passing but Christ remains forever. Viva Cristo Rey.
Thank you aFather Murray as usual for your clarifications and explanations . You are a wonderful priest. We are lucky to have you !
Sheila Sutton ( London UK)
Fr. Murray's proposal that Cardinal Fernandez must resign his post following the discovery of so much evidence against him should be embraced by all the associations that represent traditional Catholics. Moreover, if Pope Francis was aware of all this evidence when he appointed Fernandez cardinal and placed him in charge of Doctrine and Faith, he should be pressurised into a forced retirement. Fiducia Supplicans is, indeed, the result of human frailty and obsession, and the time has come for all traditional Catholics to unite and work together to ensure the reversal of that document. Dr. Buhagiar, Malta.
Thank you, Father, for saying what needs to be said. Thank you, Raymond, for giving the forum to say it. It's the Medicis all over again.
Is this not Blasphemy? He should not be the head of the doctrinal office, he should be ex-communicated from the Holy Catholic Church. Repent! Lord have Mercy on us!
Thank you all for this great discussion. We have to keep the faith, and we will.
Exactly, I and my family reject these blessings
A reminder to Cardinal Victor Manuel Fernandez not to follow Judas who betrayed Jesus with a Kiss. His first book “Heal me with your mouth: The art of kissing” kinda rings a bell.
But Jesus said to him, “Judas, would you betray the Son of man with a kiss?” -Luke 22:48
Meanwhile, we await the fulfillment of our blessed hope and the coming of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ in glory.”✝️
Great program, thank You Lord
Thank you Papal Posse, you are a great representation of millions of faithful Catholics around our country and the world. I will not leave my Church but I will not financially support a Church that has lost its soul. God Help us.
Pope Francis embraces men like Fernandez.
Birds of a feather flock together!
Thanks alot for me this we shall be firm in Christ live from Uganda
As a Catholic this is challenging times we are praying to our Pope and to all the our priest.and Catholic people.
The cardinal is digusting......period.
Looks like we have Marquis de Sade in a cassock kind of guy as a head of the dicastery of the faith these days in the Vatican... I thought I have already seen it all, but obviously I was mistaken.
The Bishops have done right to say no .remember Paul called Peter out to his face. We are told in the bible 🙏
❤ the Jackie Collin’s reference from Raymond.
Questions from me:
1. How and why Fernandez was allowed to write this 💩? He wrote it as a priest, surely he had actual priestly duties to perform and his superiors wore aware of its publication.
2. What happened to the young girl, whose experience he recounts in the book? Such thoughts are the product of psychological, if not diabolical, issues and require help.
Jesuit Novus Ordo Argentinian Sociolist and infiltration of the Atheists Mason order. Bella Dodd
Hearing this report about fernandez....although I'm a sinner too...I feel sad and it seems that this pope is destroying the papacy as an institution and the Church intentionally...May God forgive me for thinking this way.
The moral authority of the papacy, at its height during the heady days of St John Paul II’s pontificate, has been destroyed; it will take centuries to recover, if it ever does.
How can you help but think this way? He’s supposed to be upholding the teachings of the Church not destroying them.
Cardinal Sarah for Pope!!! 🙏🏻
Wondering how long before brimstone falls on us
Long live The SSPX!!
It's sickening
Thank you for covering these issues.
Thank you Father! I will obey you. In this issue, I see your instruction of the Faith legitimate and sound.
Pope Francis, Holy Father, it is with Faith and regret that I humbly rebuke and correct you. I urge to stop leading souls away from the faith and tradition given to the world by our Lord and savior Jesus Christ. I pray for your conversion and healing of you heart Holy Father. This must be stamped out immediately and never brought up again. God Bless.
No priests Bishop or cardinal can bless same sex couples. Its encouraging sin and calling down condemnation on themselves
A very thoughtful discussions by those in the panel..I pray that the holy spirit will inspire those in authority priests and bisophs n cardinals to bring back the church in its right path n what it teaches over 2000 years. God bless those who are i the higher seats to teach good n solid doctrines that had been thought over decades ❤
Their is something off about Fernandez & especially being a priest! The other concern is our Pope's hanging on to this
Fernandez since two month's after Bergoglio became Pope. Why? I would love to see some of Cardinal Muller's files on Fernandez from 2012 to 2017. At that time Cardinal Muller had maintained a file on Fernandez in the late 2000 due to concerns about Fernandez theology. There is absolutely something wrong with this partnership of our Pope & Fernandez. More than just the Pope's primary ghost writter! One also has to put into the realm of the globalist platform of what's going on in our world.
The pope condemned surrogacy.....ummm didn't the pope say we couldn't bless sin either. The pope says a lot of things and then does the opposite, imo.
Quote of Jesus to Peter ,Get thee behind me Satan
So why isnt cardinal Fernandez excommunicated already?
Why can’t we keep the Faith we’ve always had. 🙏
@kafinn5302 We do, we can, we must.
I’m taking a wild guess that EWTN publishing won’t be seeking the rights to republish ’Mysticsl Passion’.’
GOOD FOR YOU!
We are so blessed to have these gentlemen disclosing & discussing this and all that is going on in our church. Bergoglio is a pope-tician, causing chaos & confusion in our church like the sitting president is doing in our country. Their appointments are similar as well. It’s difficult I admit, but I continue to pray for both.
What a Sick soul, You guys are Awsome, but I wish Raymond you would pray 🙏 Our Father, one Hail Mary, and one Glory be for the pope before your show, and then keep teaching us about whats really going on in our reality, Happy New Year, and God bless all of you this year. Im watching Mother Angelica in her early days, and Im still being blessed by her when she speaks as well!!! ❤
I hope EWTN in Spanish have a program like this 🙏🏼
Father already said it the man should just resign
This papal document is dividing the church so this paper must had been touched by satan
And that priestbthat blessed the two men in front of the altar it was in a church setting so he broke the rules of the document
And the American bishops need to speak up and respect the wishes of their congregations, who don’t agree with this
Put Strickland back in!!!
God Bless the Papal Posse. This is pure evil. These people should be put on trial for crimes against the church , our Saviour Jesus Christ and the Holy Mother Mary. God protect us from this evil and put a stop to this 🙏✝️😞
I'm quite certain he could not even get past his own vetting process prior to his espiscopal elevation...
Prolly why his vetting process has been removed from any scrutiny.
He who abandons the See of Peter on which the Church was founded, falsely believes himself to be a part of the Church" -St. Cyprian, quoted magisterially by Leo XIII, Satis Cognitum
Sounds to me that the Magisterium is what is referred to here. We certainly aren't obliged to follow anything or anyone if they are in error, even if he is the head of the Church. There have been horrible popes in the past 2000 years. This is a clarion call for the faithful to beg God for holy Shepherds to be placed in positions of leadership.
Thank you for speaking the truth. I get gaslighted by many fellow “Catholics” for voicing my concerns - I am apparently a Protestant/Schismatic for holding to immutable Catholic teaching
Nice to see sound catholic discussions on EWTN.
Thanks for the heads up
Amazing…no words.
At the very least, is the writing of this book not a mortal sin(s)?
This will damage the Church, it's disgusting.Making the union of a man and woman that is a wonderful gift of love,into something disgusting.I have never heard such an awful thought,I will be 79 this year. Jesus have mercy on mankind.Its blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
“Meanwhile, when a crowd of many thousands had gathered, so that they were trampling on one another, Jesus began to speak first to his disciples, saying: “Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known. What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the ear in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the roofs.” (Luke 12:1-3)
Love your show when you have the papal party.....And why are the Catholic bishops so complicit?
The ousting of Bishop Strickland and Cardinal Burke by the Pope for upholding the Catholic faith. Then, he endorses changes that are not consistent with and completely alien to the Catholic faith. Thanks for sharing this information in your interview with Robert Royal and Father Murray.
Oh no, I think Fr. Murray might be the next priest to be thrown out. He's telling the truth, not allowed.
Then we pray for him and not despair. Father please protect Fr Murray
Better the truth and standing for Our Lord, Jesus Christ, than standing with those for lucifer and his minions.
Nowadays in this papacy we hear about sex,sex,sex and nothing more, is this not the very adulterous generation which Jesus rebuked of finding a sign. It sound like Baal prophets in office!!
Please pray for the Holy Father. For the Guidance of the Holy Spirit.
In Fiducia Supplicans, paragraph 27, he writes about God... 'He is father, he is mother'. Scripture never equates God to Mother. God calls himself Father. Mary is the Mother of Jesus, and Jesus is the Son of God, so saying God ' is mother' is an error. Now that we hear about these other books, it is not just an isolated event, but a consistent odd sexual idealogy.
You are correct, next he'll say God preferred pronouns are ...
He wouldn't wriite that book now(???) Yet he wrote the AL and FS documents attempting them to be binding on the church. This guy hasn't changed at all and is really sick in the head, most unfortunately
Pray, pray, praying that the Lord God above replaces this current pontificate and place Cardinal Sarah as Pope, and Archbishop Vigano as his right hand. A complete reversal of what we’ve had to endure for 10 LONG years.
Lord Jesus, have mercy on those ravenous wolves within and without Holy Mother Church, and us!!!
This is so disturbing. Dear Lord, have mercy on us.
He must have little to no shame about his writings, because I can tell you that if it was me I’d refuse to accept the promotion to this office. Where are his ethics? Where is his concern over how he currently represents the church? Where is his concern about how his past will reflect on the church 10-20 years from now? I couldn’t in any frame of mind accept the role.
Pt 1. Leaders should always be held to a higher standard. They should represent the best of us. If a leader finds themselves in controversy that weakens their credibility, trust and qualifications, they should resign.
Pt 2. At the end of the mass, when the congregation receives the blessing, are all sinners excluded? Or is the blessing/plea for all to live holier lives and come closer to God? This new teaching clarifies that question. Sinners can be blessed in the form of a plea, to break the chains of slavery formed by their sin.
God, may you open our hearts to those struggling with serious sin and encourage them to grow closer to your word and grace. Never can we approve or validate their sinful decisions, but instead reach out an olive branch with the hope they (we) can be saved by your mercy. Amen
I like the way Fernández forbids the bishops to dissent! 😀
Stay the course, gentlemen.
Very very sad. Cardinal. Fernandez needs to see a doctor for any disease ......... Praying for all. May God be the help.
God have mercy on the world, bring Divine Mercy FIAT❤
How did somebody this sick get ordained in the first place? Is this the qualifications they are looking for in the seminaries?
I wonder myself. They are all about recruiting and I mean to use that word more priests and yet we have this madness going on.
It would'nt suprise me to know that Fernandez would possibly be the anti-christ.
Nah, he is a wanna be Hugh Hefner
“Yet somehow he continued to rise .. it’s a mystery”. No mystery here just sick views are held by the majority of priests
I agree with the previous comment. Let us pray that Cardinal Sarah become our next Pope !
So pleased he tried to bury. the book before you tried to bury him!
Fernandez is just plain gross.
Who your friends are tells very much about who you are. Unite against anti Biblical heresy!
Only the clergy, with God's help, can address the problems coming from the vatican now; it has gone too far. The laity must pray. We all can, and should, offer penance. And all trust in God's Will.
Apostasy, period,
It's such a shame that - however it happened - the Vatican has become mired in this totally unnecessary brouhaha.
Especially when the Catholic Church has come under extremely aggressive attack from all quarters - the atheistic, the secular, the non-Christian, the non-Catholic, everyone - about that evergreen polemic about the papacy.
HC-JAIPUR (12/Jan/2024)
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The pride/LGBT mob have pressured the Pope for years to "sign off" on the lifestyle. The blessing was a sort of work around, but IMO, it is leaving the door ajar to future "declarations" regarding this topic.....which scares the crap out of me and angers me.
Father Murray, be careful before they come for you.
Every thing about and from Fenarnandez should be rejected
The modernists now alter the Church of Christ and remake it into their own image.
When I see pope Francis on my screen, I say one our father one hail Mary and one glory be, and change the channel