Crazy stories or not, this show was on FIRE that last year or so they were on. It was written in a way you couldn't take your eyes off of it -- and I didn't!
I started getting into OLTL in middle school. Although at the time I was only able to watch it on hollidays or the summer because I was at school. After graduating highschool in 2008 I watched this quite frequently and finding out my Todd is Victor is a real shocker. My mom noticed the original Todd right away but to me Victor was always Todd. I grew up with him being Todd lol. I been watching the original Todd in GH (my fav soap) and have grown attached to him already.
Tea acted totally out of control like a 17-year-old all jealous of a kiss to someone who she's been married to for many years. To me it was childish but she's under a ton of stress.
I never liked Tea. And I never liked TSJ as Todd. And I was in love with Blair and Todd (RH) for as long as they've been together. So... I was totally thrilled with the way things worked out. Let Tea and Victor live their lives together and Blair and Todd live their lives together, Everyone's happy!:)
It was a really stupid story lol. I'm glad Roger Howarth was the real Todd though. The twin angle was really stupid because then they had to add an extra element, which was the reason for Victor Jr. looking like Walker Laurence.
I miss it to. I especially miss Todd Manning even though he was bad I still love him. What really got me in this video was when Todd (the real one) asked Vicki for a hug. So heartbreaking 😭
TSJ made Todd his own alright. He made him into a totally different character! By the end of TSJ's run there was practically nothing about the original character that was even a little bit recognizable. I can appreciate that some people really liked TSJ, but he was never Todd in the way he played the part. Turns out he was never Todd period. But Roger Howarth created this character's personality and mannerisms from nothing. In the early days Todd was nothing but a generic frat boy with le
I will say this though: All of Howarths scenes are good and the reveal was an actually really good scene. There's a lot of honesty with him and Erika Slezaks performances, not just manufactured drama.
I'll always love RH's Todd more but TSJ Todd was really great and he was the one I knew of first. I watched OLTL in middle school with my mom and got really into Starr and Cole so I hated him at first because of how he treated Cole and Starr when she got pregnant (I don't think RH Todd would ever even if he was mad at them) but I started falling for TSJ Todd when Tea and then Dani came to town and he acted a little more human. I wish so badly they had kept him on the show so he and the real Todd could have more scenes together because that was such a fun dynamic.
My thing is why Irene acted like she hated Todd so much lmaoo. Both of them are you sons and twins at that & then she goes and name him Victor Lord Jr after the man that left her. I don’t understand her reasoning behind all of this & why she love Victor so much more than Todd.
Ok and Marty is where? This storyline is beyond ridiculous but why is Blair and Tea and that creepy Tomas in the story but the one woman who shaped Todd's adult life is MIA? I will say when Todd asked for a hug I wanted to cry...but RC is the worst writer
I could not believe how stupid this storyline was. This was the only way to bring back Roger's Todd?? Bringing back Irene in this way?? And this was written by Ron Carlivati ? An Emmy winning headwriter?? SMFH
I don't know if I'm in minority, but I really hate how they just brought Irene back like that. They made her into a cold piece of crap. Back when Todd was first being introduced he had fond feelings for his mother and that was the one positive parental figure in his life. Now he has two crappy parents instead of just one and it was bad writing and destroyed yet another character. I think the main reason they brought Roger Howarth back is because OLTL got cancelled, and they wanted to appease long time fans. For me I perfer Howarth's Todd over Saint Johns, but both of them made the character iconic. If they hadn't rushed "real Todd" back onto the canvas they might never have come up with this terrible storyline.
I believe I read that the same writer responsible for this storyline is also doing the Jason/Jason thing going on now in GH. Now "Todd" is looking at it on the outside instead of being part of it.
Omg Victor has special needs 😂 that explains so many of his facial expressions and obsessive behaviours, what is wrong with Tea she was always firey but now she just seem to have regressed to being 8 yelling at everyone and throwing lamps maybe it's spending all that time with Victor or are they writing her to have an acquired brain injury from that time Blair through her from the window. 🤔
I know this story is crazy but at least it was interesting the jason drew story wasnt well done. Maybe this worked well bc victor had tea and todd got blair? Too bad they didnt keep drewson with liz and jason with sam maybe that would have been better. Anyway erika was great here as Todd's family I believe the greatest love of his life obviously not in a romantic way with viki. She was his rock and no matter what he went through with blair or tea , viki was always there to love him. One of my favorite scenes was at the cabin when viki was asking him to save asa and she said " do it for me" and he said why should I do it for you?" And she said " bc I have loved u , twisted and tormented and closer to my heart than my own children, god forgive me its true." Who would have thought when they made todd vikis little brother that they would become so close. Viki never unconditionally loved Tina she even exiled her. She didnt accept tina for a bit and I guess she represented a side of her father she couldnt face. She never shared money with her. She let her live at her house with her kids for years but never gave her money of her own which she should have gotten. Meanwhile viki got money llaifair and the banner. Todd got 27.8 million dollars. I dont think it was that much money when victor left it to him it was more investments that todd could sell off. I believe victor had other magazines like modern worman that todd sold to get capital. Bc 500 grand cash was in an account but the rest were stocks and holdings I remember todd sold that were worth the 27.8 million. He made even more money by starting the sun and buying wvle which i dont think we heard about again. I thought it was a station that aired fraternity row maybe it also was the radio station too. I never understood when bo put it in a blind trust bc he was a commissioner he had to do it as a public servant i guess so he didnt have any bias he could use to get himself re elected but I always wondered when todd bought wvle if bo got the profit. Anyone who understands what a blind trust it help me out bc it was something bo bought so just bc he became commissioner shouldnt mean he is just out the money he paid for the station.
I actually started watching this story bcuz of Roger "Todd" back wen he had that sexy long hair & he kidnapped Rebecca ...(wen they changed Todd (face change) I stilled watched but it took years for me to digest it.
Oh no, he did!. They had several beautiful encounters on the island. Dani was the product of one of those. I liked both women and I think Todd was in love with both of them but he loved Blair more. She was the love of his life.
We only know of 2 encounters followed by a hurtful scene: Todd's declaration of love for Blair and his "abandonment", as Tea saw it, when he left by raft to get back to Blair. (He had dreamed of his WEDDING NIGHT with Blair after one of those encounters and then immediately got up to look at Blair's picture when he woke.) When Tea refused to leave the island, he left anyway. Overall, she felt rejected by him. In 2011, Tea very bitterly told Todd, "He (Victor) could love me in a way you never could." and she went on to make it clear that she felt that Victor had truly desired her physically; unlike Todd. In 1997-1998, she and Todd were married for a year or so but did not have sex mainly but not entirely due to Todd, maybe because of his pain due to the problems with Blair. He and Tea never found a time when they both were open to it. They also went away together for a few months in 2000 but still no sex.
So, Blair was the real love of Todd's life, but he had really strong feelings for Tea and needed Tea for a bunch of reasons, but Todd wasn't really interested in having an actual consistent sex-life with Tea, all the while knowing that Tea is hopelessly and madly in love with him. That's so twisted and dysfunctional.
Sour grapes, anyone? Absolutely loved that Tea married Victor, not Todd! She and Victor were great together and Todd and Blair found their way back to one another (and were remarried in 2013). To check out red hot chemistry, the early TnB years have the most but 2013 TnB is pretty hot, too.
It's been six years since it ended, and I still miss One Life To Live.
TH-cam Smasher me too I need them to bring them back 😭😑😭😭
Me too! OLTL was my first soap opera in 1973, I was 8 years old.📺
OLTL was a classic they definitely need to bring it back 2023 make it happen ASAP
Roger will always be the real Todd. 💯 Good acting skills by both men.
Crazy stories or not, this show was on FIRE that last year or so they were on. It was written in a way you couldn't take your eyes off of it -- and I didn't!
It was!!!
I hated this retcon. They only did it because they didn’t want to fire Trevor St. John completely
The Tale of Two Todds was beyond wackadoo crazy. But the acting (especially from Slezak, Howarth and St. John) was so so good
Erika was so over it. You could tell she thought it was stupid.
All the Tears were real... they were welcoming Roger Back to OLTL...
I started getting into OLTL in middle school. Although at the time I was only able to watch it on hollidays or the summer because I was at school. After graduating highschool in 2008 I watched this quite frequently and finding out my Todd is Victor is a real shocker. My mom noticed the original Todd right away but to me Victor was always Todd. I grew up with him being Todd lol. I been watching the original Todd in GH (my fav soap) and have grown attached to him already.
so Irene can have Todd kidnapped and tortured and Victor brainwashed but it never crossed her mind to just have Mitch killed?
chriskoob lol
😂
chriskoob Lol, right?
So basically Irene cut up her son for nothing, because he got his face changed right after lol
Facts
It just killed me when he ask for a hug I almost cried. It so loving he waet to be love so much and he is
Roger Howarth is Todd. Even eating all Viki's food was something Howarth did not TSJ.
RifferRev yep
That's a Roger Howarth thing he did the same thing with Franco on gh, if there is food around he is eating it 🤣
the great actors all made me forget how stupid this story was
I Wish Marty Would Have Saw Both Todd Manning And Victor Lord Jr.
I love Tea & Blair as frenemies
China and America
Tea acted totally out of control like a 17-year-old all jealous of a kiss to someone who she's been married to for many years. To me it was childish but she's under a ton of stress.
This was quite a shocker. I couldn’t believe this Todd Manning was actually Victor all this time.
It would have been interesting to see a confrontation between Irene & Dorian
I never liked Tea. And I never liked TSJ as Todd. And I was in love with Blair and Todd (RH) for as long as they've been together. So... I was totally thrilled with the way things worked out. Let Tea and Victor live their lives together and Blair and Todd live their lives together, Everyone's happy!:)
Jeromona Maddox fuck you
@@fletcher373 calm down jackass its fiction! Take your meds
…in that order. Todd left TeUgh on that island alone for a reason.😂
@@Vivrant__Thang Yes, the sexual encounter doesnt seem to have done much for him; probably because he was still in love with Blair.
It was a really stupid story lol. I'm glad Roger Howarth was the real Todd though. The twin angle was really stupid because then they had to add an extra element, which was the reason for Victor Jr. looking like Walker Laurence.
I miss it to. I especially miss Todd Manning even though he was bad I still love him. What really got me in this video was when Todd (the real one) asked Vicki for a hug. So heartbreaking 😭
GH used this for Jason and Drew lol
Nope. Luna hit Todd with a pipe in the alley behind Rodi's because Todd was attacking Marty.
RH and TSJ are awesome.
I love everytime Tea switches to Spanish ❤
TSJ made Todd his own alright. He made him into a totally different character! By the end of TSJ's run there was practically nothing about the original character that was even a little bit recognizable. I can appreciate that some people really liked TSJ, but he was never Todd in the way he played the part. Turns out he was never Todd period. But Roger Howarth created this character's personality and mannerisms from nothing. In the early days Todd was nothing but a generic frat boy with le
I will say this though: All of Howarths scenes are good and the reveal was an actually really good scene. There's a lot of honesty with him and Erika Slezaks performances, not just manufactured drama.
Well, he didn't really kill him. Victor's alive at the end of the finale.
Tea, don't call Blair desperate.
Justin Juerakhan She is desperate
I liked Tea she was fiery at times and she was attractive imo. Didn't really appreciate her character fully until long after the show ended.
When Irene and victor were yelling she called him Todd
unlike the mess gh did of their Twin Tale, Tea loved Victor and stayed with him. Sam told Drew she loved him and dumped him
and drew was actually better than jason in every way, whereas victor was worse than todd
Stupid it was Drew who left Sam 🤣🤣🤣
You are stupid Sam didn't leave Drew Cain it was Drew who left Sam 🙄😆😆
Watch i bet this is what GH is going to do with Helena and the 2 Jason's now that Steve Burton is back
Brittkrystine Navarrette he needs to be Todd not Franco
Crystal Norfleet i love him best as Todd Manning
Irene and Helena went to the same high school together. LOL!
I'll always love RH's Todd more but TSJ Todd was really great and he was the one I knew of first. I watched OLTL in middle school with my mom and got really into Starr and Cole so I hated him at first because of how he treated Cole and Starr when she got pregnant (I don't think RH Todd would ever even if he was mad at them) but I started falling for TSJ Todd when Tea and then Dani came to town and he acted a little more human. I wish so badly they had kept him on the show so he and the real Todd could have more scenes together because that was such a fun dynamic.
Can't believe 6 years it's been.off
My thing is why Irene acted like she hated Todd so much lmaoo. Both of them are you sons and twins at that & then she goes and name him Victor Lord Jr after the man that left her. I don’t understand her reasoning behind all of this & why she love Victor so much more than Todd.
Made me so sad for Todd
I wrote fan fiction scripts continuing on from the finale..and I took still miss it
Ok and Marty is where? This storyline is beyond ridiculous but why is Blair and Tea and that creepy Tomas in the story but the one woman who shaped Todd's adult life is MIA?
I will say when Todd asked for a hug I wanted to cry...but RC is the worst writer
Miss this show.
irene giving victor jr the scar was dumb. todds was years old
I could not believe how stupid this storyline was. This was the only way to bring back Roger's Todd?? Bringing back Irene in this way?? And this was written by Ron Carlivati ? An Emmy winning headwriter?? SMFH
I don't know if I'm in minority, but I really hate how they just brought Irene back like that. They made her into a cold piece of crap. Back when Todd was first being introduced he had fond feelings for his mother and that was the one positive parental figure in his life. Now he has two crappy parents instead of just one and it was bad writing and destroyed yet another character. I think the main reason they brought Roger Howarth back is because OLTL got cancelled, and they wanted to appease long time fans. For me I perfer Howarth's Todd over Saint Johns, but both of them made the character iconic. If they hadn't rushed "real Todd" back onto the canvas they might never have come up with this terrible storyline.
+Raynie Smith I like Roger Howarth too! He's definitely Todd!
Todd had fond feelings for his adoptive mother. He never knew Irene.
Todd never knew irene
like jason and drew
Nicholas Bloom yep Jason is Steve burton and drew is billy miller
yes he is and he's coming home to sam and danny im guessing helana wanted to torture sam her curse is coming true
I believe I read that the same writer responsible for this storyline is also doing the Jason/Jason thing going on now in GH. Now "Todd" is looking at it on the outside instead of being part of it.
+【♥】 Chipz yes he is and I'm afraid it's gonna kill gh just like it did oltl
The only difference victor didn't blame todd for everything that that happened to the both of them
Than they did this shit on GH when Drew Had Jason's memories when Drew and Jason looked alike until Drew's accurately scared his face
Roger (Todd 1) was on As the World Turn until the show ended ...I guess he ask to come back to OLTL (ALTHOUGH Todd #2) had the role over 7years..
I didn't watch oltl but I guess I'm in the minority because I like Trevor St.Johns Todd Manning better
@@blackfox00 Trevor too..
You can see him on Young & Restless now...(I was happy to see him wen he joined the cast)❤
@@justaylor1269 yeah I know that's why I'm here ... Loving his work as Tucker wanted to see how he was as Todd...
@@justaylor1269 Y&R never gave him a chance. TSJ has always been great.
I'm sorry but Roger Howarth was the best Todd.
The one time tea and Blair are on the same side
Memories uh-huh
Tea has always been over dramatic! She was insecure as hell
To be fair Todd did cheat on her with Blair in the past, so it makes sense for her to be triggered by Blair kissing Todd.
She also lost out to Blair in 2002 on the island.
Shame they never got finish this story
Omg Victor has special needs 😂 that explains so many of his facial expressions and obsessive behaviours, what is wrong with Tea she was always firey but now she just seem to have regressed to being 8 yelling at everyone and throwing lamps maybe it's spending all that time with Victor or are they writing her to have an acquired brain injury from that time Blair through her from the window. 🤔
Todd and Victor =Jason and Drew
I know this story is crazy but at least it was interesting the jason drew story wasnt well done. Maybe this worked well bc victor had tea and todd got blair? Too bad they didnt keep drewson with liz and jason with sam maybe that would have been better.
Anyway erika was great here as Todd's family I believe the greatest love of his life obviously not in a romantic way with viki. She was his rock and no matter what he went through with blair or tea , viki was always there to love him. One of my favorite scenes was at the cabin when viki was asking him to save asa and she said " do it for me" and he said why should I do it for you?" And she said " bc I have loved u , twisted and tormented and closer to my heart than my own children, god forgive me its true." Who would have thought when they made todd vikis little brother that they would become so close. Viki never unconditionally loved Tina she even exiled her. She didnt accept tina for a bit and I guess she represented a side of her father she couldnt face. She never shared money with her. She let her live at her house with her kids for years but never gave her money of her own which she should have gotten. Meanwhile viki got money llaifair and the banner. Todd got 27.8 million dollars. I dont think it was that much money when victor left it to him it was more investments that todd could sell off. I believe victor had other magazines like modern worman that todd sold to get capital. Bc 500 grand cash was in an account but the rest were stocks and holdings I remember todd sold that were worth the 27.8 million. He made even more money by starting the sun and buying wvle which i dont think we heard about again. I thought it was a station that aired fraternity row maybe it also was the radio station too. I never understood when bo put it in a blind trust bc he was a commissioner he had to do it as a public servant i guess so he didnt have any bias he could use to get himself re elected but I always wondered when todd bought wvle if bo got the profit. Anyone who understands what a blind trust it help me out bc it was something bo bought so just bc he became commissioner shouldnt mean he is just out the money he paid for the station.
I thought Marty gave Todd the scar
Daniel Eaton no Luna he was attacking Marty in an alley and she smashed him upside the head
When I started watching howorth was told for maybe a small time...... then disappeared. Tsj.came back and made Todd my favorite character period.
Tood? whos that?
But Tood did'nt kill victor he's alive ♥ : )
I actually started watching this story bcuz of Roger "Todd" back wen he had that sexy long hair & he kidnapped Rebecca ...(wen they changed Todd (face change) I stilled watched but it took years for me to digest it.
Tea was fine! And Todd never touched her? That's crazy!
Oh no, he did!. They had several beautiful encounters on the island. Dani was the product of one of those. I liked both women and I think Todd was in love with both of them but he loved Blair more. She was the love of his life.
We only know of 2 encounters followed by a hurtful scene: Todd's declaration of love for Blair and his "abandonment", as Tea saw it, when he left by raft to get back to Blair. (He had dreamed of his WEDDING NIGHT with Blair after one of those encounters and then immediately got up to look at Blair's picture when he woke.) When Tea refused to leave the island, he left anyway. Overall, she felt rejected by him. In 2011, Tea very bitterly told Todd, "He (Victor) could love me in a way you never could." and she went on to make it clear that she felt that Victor had truly desired her physically; unlike Todd. In 1997-1998, she and Todd were married for a year or so but did not have sex mainly but not entirely due to Todd, maybe because of his pain due to the problems with Blair. He and Tea never found a time when they both were open to it. They also went away together for a few months in 2000 but still no sex.
Really? I thought that the real Todd, not Victor, had children with Tea. At least one daughter, Dani. (I guess that's short for Danielle.)
So, Blair was the real love of Todd's life, but he had really strong feelings for Tea and needed Tea for a bunch of reasons, but Todd wasn't really interested in having an actual consistent sex-life with Tea, all the while knowing that Tea is hopelessly and madly in love with him. That's so twisted and dysfunctional.
@@cornbreadthedog The real Todd had one daughter with Tea who was conceived on the island. That was Dani. He was very fertile!
Jamarcus Light
So that where Jason/ Drew SL came from 🙄
But OLTL S/L was kinda dumb.. well both r lol..
Oh Frank lol
So do you think Irene is dead
Trevor St John = Todd Manning. ... End of story.
Dark Demonik Still loved the Victor character he portrayed for 8 years
PERIOD🖤
Why did Vicky do all this
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Damn his ears are big
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@OhYeahSI1 ITA !!! The whole Todd and Blair storyline SUCKS ~ KDP and RH can't hold a candle to FL and TSJ's unbeatable red HOT chemistry !!!
…so great TeUgh found her soulmate in NotTodd.😂
Sour grapes, anyone? Absolutely loved that Tea married Victor, not Todd! She and Victor were great together and Todd and Blair found their way back to one another (and were remarried in 2013). To check out red hot chemistry, the early TnB years have the most but 2013 TnB is pretty hot, too.
Its really funny that even though this is a soap storyline its also based in a sobering reality that most people don't even think is happening
What reality is that