Simmons SD1250 6 Month Update - Is it still worth it?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- At the time of creating this video, Musician's Friend has this kit on sale for $879. At this price, I really can't think of another e-drum set that even comes close to this thing in terms of features or quality. Here's a playlist of all of my Simmons SD1250 videos, including the Dua Lipa remix I mentioned in the video • Simmons SD1250 . Follow Demonic Sweaters on Spotify open.spotify.c.... Sign up for Online Drum Lessons at alternativedru....
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Here is my complete SD1250 Playlist th-cam.com/play/PLs9zAgLmBvnnbuk57TGEhe1ZjzC_5-ZLz.html
Right On!!! Our band Pig Splitter just got this set a few weeks ago. We are returning it later today. It basically stoped working when we play too hard.
Bummer! Guess I'll just have to pony up for a roland.
Thanks for the update! I just picked up this kit last week, and mostly love it. My kick drum triggering seems just fine after turning down (up?) the threshold. But, as you mention, the triggering on the snare feels a bit inconsistent, and the center hot spot is, well, scorching. I wasn't expecting amazing-ness on a budget kit, but hoped I for a little better control over dynamics. So I'm really glad you've found that the triggering has "broken in" with time. (I don't quite get how that would happen, but hope it holds true for me.) I was actually considering trying the Alesis Crimson 2 SE, which is the exact same price, but I believe uses a multi-point contact for the piezo on the snare, vs. the single contact on the Simmons. But I also don't really know what I'm talking about.
I think it happens because the foam used on the center snare trigger is pretty stiff in the beginning, then it softens up after being played for a while. This definitely happened on the kick drum because I can feel it, if I push on it with my fingers. Try playing with the tension on the snare and adjusting sensitivity and velocity curve settings on the snare. You should be able to dial it in. Even when mine was new, I got it working 90% to my liking, then after about 2 months or so, it seemed perfect.
@@demonicsweaters That actually makes a lot of sense. I did notice how stiff the cone is and how firmly it's pressed against the head-to the point of being able to distinctly feel the bump, when skimming my fingers over the head. I did tweak the settings a bit, and I'll play w/ tension, but ultimately, it's reassuring to know that it should improve with time. Thanks!
Update: So, in the middle of playing today, the snare's trigger cone detached. photos.app.goo.gl/NqJzcXBG7fj1D4vLA
One one hand, it makes me feel a little relieved, knowing that maybe the inconsistency I was feeling had to do with an improperly secured cone; on the other hand, my 2-week-old SD1250 had an improperly secured cone. 🤦♂
I just bought the kit and so far I love it. I look forward to trying it out with superior drummer. Not really loving the stock logic kits so much, we’ll see. Enjoy the vids you’re a great drummer
Thank you! Yes, it works great with both SD3, and EZ Drummer, or any drum VST for that matter. Most of them have Simmons presets as well for mapping.
I would suggest turning the kick pedal around so that the plastic side is hitting the kick drum. It seems a little backwards (no pun intended) but it attributes to the longevity of the mess face of the kick drum.
Thanks for the update as it's really helpful information because some of these lower priced kits are reported to have high failure rates within the first few months. I look forward to getting this kit. You have a great channel, and it keeps getting better with your redesign and new content.
Thank you!
I’ve replaced the snare twice. I’m waiting for my third now.
How is it breaking? I never had a problem in over a year with 30 different kids banging on it every week.
They go quite or start sending a very weak signal. Only the rim will will be loud. I’m on my 4th snare and they claim to have fixed the issue now. We’ll see, I don’t have high hopes that this one will last. The kit is great when it works. I am looking at doing the same thing you did and switching to a Roland td07 and using either a Roland or Lemon snare. Did you have to change the ride to a Roland to get it to work or was it a preference? Thanks,
Rob
Great review. Thanks!
Hello Demonic, does it include the old 80's Simmons octagon sounds?
You mean Hexagons ;) yes, it has some!
I have heard that the felt beater which is almost the same fabric of a tennis balls are not good for mesh heads. That if you have a double sided beater to use the rubber side. I think that bluetooth midi is cool!!👍
Yeah, I've heard that as well, but I've used the tennis ball beaters on other mesh heads without issue though. I think it might have more to do with the ball shape not making a flat contact with the mesh/foam. We'll see, I just got a kick similar to it at home, using flat plastic beaters from the start and we'll see how it holds up.
Just got a 1250 12” dual zone cymbal to use as a hi-hat off eBay for $25. Any settings advice for a Roland TD-6v? Thanks!
Awesome review of this drum set. I am on the fence of getting one but for an unusual reason. Right now I am using a smaller Simmons kit belonging to my manager where I live. We keep it stored in a wreck room in a closet behind a stage built in the room that has double doors. The set now we have to fold the legs into to make it compact to fit inside but that has a snare connected to the rack where this one is on the separate stand. My question would be do you know if thid sd1250 would fold up pretty tight i.e. it looks like the floor toms would clear the front toms when folded in or when it's folded in is it still pretty bulky? Obviously you wouldnt know the size of closet I am talking but just in general does it fold in pretty tight to move it?
I really enjoy your video! I have had the sd1250 for about a year now. I enjoy it, but the past 6 months the play along will not down load a song from the apple library. I call Simmons many times and I just get the run around. Do you know of this issue and is there an alternative way to load a song.
You don’t necessarily need to use the app. You can just use any music player or TH-cam with an aux cable
Thank you for your advise and I will do some experimenting with that.
I actually use my ROLAND TD 7 kick drum... with my 1250...
Hey man! Have you had any issues with your snare after long term use? My snare started acting up after only 2 weeks, I've looked online and it seems to be specifically a simmons issue. Do you have any idea what that's about? Or about any fixes?
I never had any issues. I used mine for about a year before I switched the module having to use a different snare because of the connection.
Do u know if the Silent Strike beaters ruin sd600 kick tower? U recommend just using standard plastic drum beater on sd600 kick tower?
I used one for a while on the 1250, which is the same kind of pad, and it does seem to mark them up pretty badly. So it might be better to use a plastic beater
Get the titan 50 instead in my opinion.
Does this module includes the famous 80's simmons drum sounds?
With the mesh drum heads--i know Simmons has a plastic dotxto stick on the bass deum head,to protect it. Could a moleskin pad be used instead? I used the moleskin pad under suggestion by my drum instructor and some other drummer friends at the time. However, this was on an acoustic kit.
How about bass drum beaters--could a metal or wood beater be acceptable use on a mesh head or are they too hard and stick with plastic?
how much space does this kit take up including cymbals? i currently have the titan 50, and im looking to upgrade. just curious how these two compare in size
Hey Justin. I recently purchased the SD1250, and I'm not in love with the high hat. Have you tried the Lemon HHC12 with a Simmons kit? Do you think it would work with the kit?
What don’t you like about the hi hat? I honestly think it’s pretty nice. I made a video on the lemon hi hat and it’s ridiculously bouncy to the point where I found it unplayable.th-cam.com/video/izOG0EdghBE/w-d-xo.html
@@demonicsweaters I am used to playing a real high hat, so the pedal response to me is very clunky. Maybe I need to dig deeper into the module and see if I can tune up the pedal response. Do you have a video that touches on that for Simmons? If so, I have not come across it. Also, I was just curious if anyone had tried the Lemon HHC12 with a Simmons drum module. Thanks for the response.
@@jessiemoore4897 I haven't tried the Lemon Hi Hat with the SD1250. But honestly, no electronic hi hat feels exactly like an acoustic one. I have a Roland VH-11 on my other kit, and even it doesn't really like an acoustic. I almost prefer the Simmons one to the VH-11. I do plan on getting an optical hi hat soon though for my ATV and I think this will be a big upgrade, but I don't think they'll work on and SD1250.
im having problems with my titan 70 snare it misses hits and i have exchanged the snare twice, the wire harness once, and the module once, and its still missing hits, do you have any suggestions ?
Try lowering the crosstalk settings, or possibly put it in a snare stand
Hey. Thanks for the review. Maby you know if this module can handle an external triggers? lets say that i want to convert my acustic drums to ekit. Is this module good?
I wouldn't count on it. Roland modules are really the way to go for A2E.
Will an aftermarket hi hat controller work on this kit? Trying to find something compatible for my 1250.
not sure
Can you connect headphones with the bluetooth?
No, you cannot do this on any electronic drum set. Bluetooth headphones have too much latency for playing drums. Bluetooth is most commonly used to connect your phone to the module, or on the sd1250 for connecting MIDI devices. See my recent video about my favorite e-drum headphones.
Which module do you like better, the one on the SD70 or the SD1250?
You mean the Titan 70? Personally I still prefer the SD1250, but I know a lot of people prefer the Titans.
just wen on sale for 850. I have not played drums for 20 years so i'm practically a newbie again lol is it a good one to learn on? I do own ez drummer3 and a bunch of EZXs thank you in advance
really any functioning drum set is good to learn on, you just have to take the time to practice!
How loud is it?
If I were to play from upstairs, would anyone hear from downstairs?
Yes, this goes for all e-drums, mostly because of the kick drum. There are ways to minimize the noise though. Look into 'edrum floating risers' or 'roland noise eaters'. I live on a 4th floor apartment and have a Roland Noise Eater on one of my kicks, and a homemade version on the other.
Did you have to tighten snare screws over time?
all drums need to be tightened over time
Why didn't you put a patch on base drum head to reduce wear?
those patched never stay on mesh heads, also they make the trigger response weird.
@@demonicsweaters I have a Remo one and it works just fine on kd10
My biggest question is this: Is there a way to add expansions and octapads?
You could expand with the MIDI input
@@demonicsweaters Like if I wanted to add an extra Tom, cymbal, and an octopad?
Can I move the ride over to the left of the kit? I play lefty lol
yep, you can set the whole thing up opposite if you want.
I’m having trouble finding a complete list of all 50 of the preset kits on the sd1250. Is there anyway you can list them?
page 26 of the manual simmonsdrums.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Simmons-SD1250-Manual.pdf
Is your 1250 still holding up??
It is! I have it pretty modified at this point, but it's still going strong!
My playing style is Fast Deathcore type with blast beats and double foot. Can this set handle that?
I don't think any of the kits are worth it since the modules are so outdated. They should have drum sounds that sound real drums. Not the same sound 20 years ago.