Grace, as a parent of a sick child, meeting you and hearing your speech meant a lot to me; it gave me hope that if my family is ever faced with such an unthinkable choice, we can have the confidence to make it knowing we won't be punished for doing the best we can, for those we love. Thank you again for a powerful message.
My life, my choice. Nothing eternal can be destroyed and that which can be destroyed was never made to be eternal. No one has the right to dictate how much suffering another person must continue to endure.
This should be a option in all states and countries. If you see a loved one suffering( a uncle with brain cancer) he was in such pain from seizures his eyes were literally bulging from his face In to final days it was absolutely heartbreaking to see and knowing he was just suffering...praying one day the negative stigma around this lessens and becomes a option in all areas of the world.
I don't have to be terminally ill to exit life. If your born without your concent don't you have the right to exit when you have had enough? Forcing people to continue living when they don't is CRIMINAL.
But who is going to be the one forcing people to cont. living when they don't? If a physician refused to proceed medically assisted suicide based on his/her belief, do you think he/she is a criminal because they let people suffer? I understand and agree that people should have a choice to make a decision. But I feel like asking someone else to do that for you is too much. Watching people suffering is painful and heartbreaking, but taking someone's life away is something you cannot force the other person to do. Doctors are the human being just like rest of us. They are not a God.
@@yukoyamada1958 there's somebody in the world who's gonna be okay with doing it though. There are all types of doctors. Not every doctor is going to have to assist with suicide. Like how some doctors now just do check-ups, while others do full on surgeries. You work with what you're comfortable with. And even so, some people just work for a profit. There are so many people in the world right now, I'm almost certain that there's at least 1 person willing to do the job. Nobody's being forced to help someone end their life, but to say that a law has to be enforced to stop it, someone had to be willing in the past, right?
A.D. Absolutely YES. Ultimately, YOU inhabit your body & YOU know (the best of anybody) what your feelings, experiences & meanings add up to, or not! YOU get to decide what's right for your death & dying process. It seems to me that in western cultures, one must COMPLETELY control the end of their life in order to end their suffering.( If someone knows about it & does not try to stop it, they could be charged as an accomplice. If they are there when it happens, they could be charged with MURDER. NO.)
I am 33 with terminal breast cancer. I wish this was an option in Texas. Not that I would choose it right now but down the line I would. I think watching me suffer and waste away will do more emotional damage to my husband and children. I'm not afraid of death, I'm afraid of suffering. I never knew cancer hurt until it was all over my body.
+Coopdizzle You are close to Mexico. It is possible to obtain barbiturates there than can end your suffering. Of course it is illegal. What is legal is inhalation of helium or nitrogen, but it is probably illegal to have anyone directly to help you with that. May the rest of your life be a growth period, and when you get to the end, you have a wonderful surprise waiting. Free download "Life in the World Unseen" will tell you much about what to expect.
Joanne Larcher not everyone believes in Jesus, and leaving this world on my own terms seems like the way to go. Terminally I'll patients lack one thing: control. If people can go without pain then I don't see why not. Either way, its best not to judge people's choices over their own bodies
Thank you for shedding light on such an issue. I haven't personally experienced what you are talking about, but we all know pain and suffering, and it seems to me that the Supreme Court of Canada has reached a most compassionate decision. We have people like you to thank for that, people who have fought and are still fighting today for the right to death with dignity, on behalf of those who can no longer do so. Well, thank you Grace.
@@HansSilver I hate to break it to you but that's not how the world works you are not entitled to never get hurt you are not entitled to a life without grief I'm sorry but it's just not sometimes people suffer it's not the end of the world
I strongly support and believe in Grace Pastine’s view and advocacy for physician assisted suicide (PAS). I have in fact done a bit of research into this highly controversial topic outside of this video. There are arguments of a ‘slippery slope’ and unsafe procedures and the death is not the patient's choice, and religion, some of which she touched on. My initial argument is to go out there and get educated, be open and hear the other side, look at some statistics, and consider the ethics. Pastine talks about compassion, protection and respect; all of which I think are valid point and only help the argument, but I would like to take this further and relate some of her points to ethics. First off in regards to a common morality principle known and respect for autonomy. In accordance to this principle, doctors are morally obliged to follow what a patient wishes gien they are competent, educated on the situation, and making a choice which can be reasoned. Pastine talks on the fact that there are strict guidelines and procedure put in place around PAS. These regulations and the legalization of PAS there to allow the autonomous decision of PAS while ensuring it is not occurring in an illogical situation. A fact to be rightly admired. These regulations also serve to successfully refute and illuminate the ideas people have about PAS turning into a ‘slippery slope’ and individuals being coerced. Take a look at the Netherlands and the research they have done into their PAS happenings and you will find disproof of these ideas. Secondly are two other common morality principle to consider nonmaleficence and beneficence. Beneficence is the act of doing things for the benefit of others, while nonmaleficence is the act of preventing harm to others. These principles are similar to each other but present in different ways, both of which connect to PAS. They also fit well with the compassion Pastine talks on and finds as one of the most prevalent factors in the legalization of PAS. When PAS is performed it allows the doctor to benefit the patient by respecting their wishes and actively avoiding the pain and harm that come from illness that allow one to go through with PAS. A final point Pastine brings up, only briefly, is that of religion. Many with religious beliefs argue against PAS due to their belief that killing oneself will send a soul to hell. For such individuals, there is nothing wrong with this view. Ethically speaking religious beliefs, as long as they are your own and not forced on you by others, can morally affect your decisions and beliefs. In this way their opposition to PAS and their choice not to participate is moral. However there inhibiting of others who do not share their same beliefs is not moral. It is a violation of another's autonomy, and thus an immoral act. Im sure there is still much more controversy out there and arguments you could throw at me, but I stand by my belief and the reasoning I use to back it.
It's so sad to see or hear about how people die, no one chooses to be born, they should have the right to choose when they die, and to die peacefuly with nature's once available plants
i have never understood the opposition to assisted suicide. its my life, my body, i can do what i want with it. isnt it really that simple to the core?
Yup. God ain't here. They need to mind their business it isn't their prison, it isn't their pain. They can't judge it needs to be an option for everyone just in case.
assisted suicide is not a digified death. it is the most Un digified death ever. no love, no compassion, saying these lives are burdens, they already feel like burdens right now. Make sure it is NOT a sucesss. They are NOT burdens, they are Gifts. They are loved and they need to show they are Gifts. and Compassion to them. By saying they are not burdens, they are Gifts!
Joanne///// You are like a broken record. Saying the same thing over and over and over and over again. We are of the same opinion still. If it were possible, I would transfer all my suffering to you so you could have a larger Gift. Pain is the biggest burden one can have.
Joanne Larcher um have you ever been dying with a horrific terminal illness? with no hope of living more then a month? Don't speak of things you have not personally went through.
Joanne Larcher wow your so wacked out , no love no compassion,wtf .. I had my dog euthanized because I loved him so much and put his need to end suffering above my own emotional connection, that's true compassion...you must think suffering intolerable pain is a gift ...you screwball you are so ignorant
One person's choices about end of life care should NEVER be dictated by another person's spiritual path. If it's down to death with dignity or religion, get religion outta here. But of course it does not need to be that way. People decide every other aspect of their life. Why shouldn't they have a say in their death if they are clearly suffering from an incurable disease? It seems like common sense to me.
Idk. Yes and no. A high magority of people after going to an institute and getting help thank people for not letting them die. Less than 4% of people with depression commit suicide in the five years following that and less than 11 percent will commit suicide over the next 35 years. I beleive, if after getting sufficiant help, they still want to die, then this option could be implemented.
It should be allowed for untreatable pain of any kind. People with long standing chronic pain, who have diseases that are not likely to kill them but can make being alive a nightmare should be allowed it too.
If it is one such as Alzheimer’s. The right to physician-assisted death/suicide should not be extended to those with mental illnesses such as anxiety or depression, as these illnesses are able to be treated and overcome, and may affect a person’s decision on whether or not to end their life.
Dedric There is a place called Dignitas, they are the pioneers for PAS and do PAS for persons with severe depression. They are in Belgium I believe. I know they used to do it, not sure if they still do or not and it costs about $12,500.
This is a tricky point, but I'm inclined to agree with you, and not just because I'm mentally ill. I believe that ANYONE in legal adulthood should have the right to take their own life for any reason, whenever they want to, as long as they've been declared sane (ie still in touch with reality). This needs to fall under the heading of "body autonomy" as far as I'm concerned. There are a number of reasons why someone would want to end their life, even if they're not in severe physical or emotional pain. The universe is a strange place. Merely not wanting to be alive anymore is enough of a reason. It really is no one else's business and I don't see how anyone has the right to stop another person from doing what they want with their own body. If you happen to value your life and want to keep living it, then good for you, but who are you to make that decision for other people?
My dad shot himself because he didn't have the option of assisted suicide. He was terminal in a lot of pain, he had no humane option. On top of this he had to take this painful action.....alone.
@@elainebraindrain3174 an absolutely devastating choice, we have more compassion for our pets than our fellow human beings..... The world has gone mad.... Sending you love, compassion and strength 💜💔💜
We end animals life all the time. You hear people say " don't let that animal suffer". My question is why do animals have that choice but us humans have to suffer?
Hailey Chiola we must fight for our freedom!!! Call your doctor and government officials. Give them no peace until we get our freedom. And if that doesn't work !!! Let's try gasoline. 2000 degrees might just change their minds !!!
This isn't a debate on whether or not to "okay" suicide. This is a debate on how to make it more humane, less physically painful for the patient, and allow the family to have closure with that person. Suicide will happen without all of those things, but why not allow it to be an option? I think this is a fair decision.
Well.... Here we are in the future, 2 years from your comment and now Assisted Suicide is legal in Canada. Congratulations, this turned into a slip down that slippery slope towards the suicide argument for people with depression or any mental illness at any age and hospital staff also pressure patients to do it cause of the cost of care. Glad people like you supported this stuff... So Progressive. Psychopaths
I mean if people are denied assured suicide, they will just end up killing themselves anyway, so why not let them do It peacefully surrounded by family and assisted by a doctor
Grace Pastine did an exceptional job at addressing the controversial subject of physician-assisted suicide (PAS). My initial belief and assumption of PAS was that it violated the trust patients place in their doctor to do no harm. The ethical principle of nonmaleficence expresses the concept that physicians have a duty to protect the patient from harm. After watching this presentation and doing further research, I agree with Ms. Pastine that individuals should have the right to a peaceful and dignified death with the assistance of a physician. Individuals with no chance of recovery or an acceptable cure should not be forced to suffer a slow excruciating death. They should be given the option to die painlessly with compassion. This also allows the opportunity for their family and friends to say goodbye and peacefully grieve the death of their loved one. PAS is the last request of the patient for autonomy. The ethical principle of autonomy describes the right of competent adults to make informed decisions about their own medical care and the physician’s respect for the preferences of the patient. These seriously and incurably ill individuals are able to decide how much suffering to endure and how they choose to say goodbye. The opposition argues that PAS is a “slippery slope” where the limits will slowly erode. They claim that there is a steady increase each year in the number of people committing suicide with the help of their physician. They also state that if PAS is legalized for one category of people then it is only a matter of time before it is extended to other individuals. These arguments are valid and that is why it is so important for tight regulation and strict limits to be in place. Currently there are layers of safeguards to ensure that individuals are competent to make this decision and protected against coercion. Ms. Pastine explained that most jurisdictions require two or more doctors to examine the patient, review the medical file, and ensure the individual is fully informed and acting voluntarily. These safeguards and regulations help to prevent individuals from taking their own life too soon. Some religious groups oppose PAS stating that it deliberately destroys human life that was created by God and it violates divine law. I respect the opinions, values, and beliefs of all individuals and religious groups. They have the right to oppose and not engage in this practice, but PAS should be an option for those people with other opinions, values, and beliefs. All individuals should have the right to die with dignity.
Its illogical. Doctors who are known as life saviour will make a person die because he was in deep poverty, betrayed or have any social trauma.. and not a physical injury/trauma. Accordingly....every depressed person will visit doctor to end their life rather than looking for a positive way.
I decided to watch this video because it’s a topic that; I never understood the whole policy and requirements behind physician assisted death, I also have just wanted to solidify my viewpoint on this topic. As a person of faith I have had a hard time deciding what is right and what is wrong in the eyes of God regarding physician assisted death. In my eyes, I still think that after researching and learning about the guidelines or requirements of this medical treatment that a large grey area still remains. At least to me, the distinguished line between acceptable suffering and not life altering suffering has not yet been defined. I believe that every person has their own right to die with painless dignity. Giving an extremely ill patient a compassionate end of life healthcare option is very important and meaningful to their well-being. I learned some of the limits and policies that the Supreme Court of Canada enacted in February of 2015, and it has helped me gain a better understanding of what is needed to follow through with a patients request to die. For example, Life Ending Suffering is defined as pain that is so unbearable that death with assistance of a physician is desired. The Supreme Court of Canada also gave some of the strict limits or guidelines that must be made clear before allowing a patient to be cleared for assisted death. The patient must be fully competent to make their own life decisions, they must be protected against coercion, also most jurisdictions require two or more doctors to examine the patient, review medical files, fully inform the patient, and make sure he/she is acting in a voluntary manner. This procedure of physician assisted dying is now considered to be a medical treatment in Canada and a few participating states. Physician assisted dying is rarely used, when it is the laws permitted have always been safely and responsibly carried out. Through the experience of other countries and states with this law affirm 3 different principles that truly matter to those with a severe medical condition. The first principle being compassion, a sympathetic concern for the sufferings or misfortunes of others. The second is protection, the Supreme Court of Canada regulated a system of safe guards to determine the best protection. This would save people from taking their own lives to soon. The safe guards would only apply to citizens who have a grievance, no chance of recovery or acceptable cure. They again, must clearly request the life ending assistance if their suffering is clearly enduring and intolerable. The last principle being respecting an individual’s fundamental rights to make deeply personal choices based on his/her values or beliefs. Critically ill patients should be allowed to make the choices that they believe are right for them. This is what I have gathered to help formulate a better understanding of this issue. Questions regarding the acceptable types of illness remain. I think this confusing for me because something such as pain is truly subjective, everyone feels pain in different ways. A disease can impact every person in a different way and what if someone’s pain threshold is much lower than that of the standards and they are enduring severe intolerable pain? Are they ignored due to the textbook’s ranking of severity? Regarding a less severe disease in which there is no acceptable cure, a patient wants to end the suffering that he deems as intolerable. What course of action is taken place to make sure the patients’ needs are satisfied? Lastly my curiosity to this situation in children? Obviously if they are under 18 they cannot make that legal decision but they too are suffering from an extremely painful degenerative or terminal illness and they coherently tell their parents that they want an end to the pain and suffering. Are they turned away because of their age? Or if parental consent is given is the medical treatment still considered? These are just a few of the questions I have thought about while educating myself on this topic. I found the Tedx Talks videos to be extremely helpful! Thank you!
it is not dying with Dignity. It is dying with No dignity. We all suffer, and this life is from conception to Natural Death. In Netherlands kids now can have assisted suicide. There is no age limit to it. They are not even certain about the termology in Canada yet, they are still working on it. Ted Talks, this one was Not helpful. First people who are suffering, (everyone we all suffer in this life, it is part of this life, suicide pro longs suffering to the next life and you don't enter Heaven where there is no suffering and endless love and joy). are feel like a Burden to people, they don't want to In conveince people and so people like her in this video play on it. WE all have to show Love, Compassion, to everyone, SHOW them they are NOT a burden EVER! They are A GIFT to us! And no one knows if they do have a terminal illness, there is not just for terminal illness, it is for mental illness too and just suffering in plain suffering. 70% (there has been 800 deaths since they legal assisted suicide in Canada, and it has not been a year yet!) of people do not want assisted suicide, they feel like a burden, but are taken their choices away by a certain time and the decision is made for them. They want to not feel like a burden and want someone to love them and care for them and show compassion and know their Life is a gift! :) Which it is! I watch a video about this couple, and it showed how this husband loves his wife and said she is no burden, she is a Gift. She went to a Natural Death and died with Dignity of a Natual Death knowing she is loved and peace and A Gift to those around her not a burden trying to get rid of her suffering and die with no dignity through assisted suicide by leathel injections. That is no way for anyone to know. God does not want that for us. Can't go to Heaven. :( taking ones life is a sin and helping to take one's life is a sin. Show love and Compassion and say they are a Gift, not a burden and write to your MLA in No we do not agree with the supreme court of Canada. :( Show them these lives are Gifts and Love and Compassion.
@ Joanne. You have spewed your irrational babble on almost _every_ thread in this comment section. You have achieved *nothing* besides exposing your mental sickness. Your beliefs cause *nothing* but suffering, thus your god is obsolete.
@@joannelarcher6246 Everyone should have the freedom of choice. No one should suffer excruciating pain unnecessarily unless they want to. If you don't like it, then you don't do it..
The fact is people will do it any way, why make it any harder than it already is. It a choice that an individual must make on their own behalf. If you don't like it then don't YOU do it. Just allow other's to choose for themselves. I read a statistic that said only 70% of people that are free to
use physician assisted suicide actually end up using it. When they know if their suffering becomes unbearable they can say enough is enough and it will be over, they relax and get on with living. It's the fear of suffering, not death it's self. Death is inevitable, suffering doesn't have to be.
I have a 38 year old son father of two young children husband life lover with a incurable cancer.. I am knowledgeable about what suffering lies ahead eventually for my fine young son..my therapist asked me whether he would choose to end his suffering by stopping treatments or other methods..like his mother he lives life with passion..we cannot place the emotional valuation always on those who physically suffer..it’s a soulful and difficult question..centered on each individuals values beliefs perception of death and support system..I don’t want my son to suffer..but I raised him to have a voice and choices..I trust he will make the choice that embraces dignity love compassion for others and self love...I will not encourage or discourage his choice..because it’s his to make..
Hospice is the way Americans get comfortable. Better pain meds, even better palliative care. ALS is a death sentence for sure. I don't want to struggle with pain either.
This is a very important issue that, in the future, should be a right once an individual has been screened and provided their case without outside pressure. Although it is a physician's duty to uphold the values of beneficence and non-maleficence, it is imperative that we do not take those duties as a one-sided issue that must continue the lives of patients at all cost in the case the patient has made the conscious decision to end their life. This is especially true for the terminally ill and those living in agony, mental or physical. In the United States physician assisted suicide is largely frowned upon because of the physicians role as a healer and its "uncontrollable nature" according to the AMA. States such as Oregon and Washington have legalized PAS for some time now and has not led to any uncontrollable or dangerous outcomes. Some of the benefits of legalizing PAS are that it gives those who suffer autonomy and control over the situation. Some research has even shown that giving people a means to end their lives this way prevents premature unregulated suicide. Physicians that do not want to take part are protected by conscientious objection laws and can refer patients much like in the case of abortion. Physicians that do take part in PAS are fulfilling their duty by reducing the suffering of their patients, and giving them the autonomy they deserve.
Statement: Human life is sacred, taking a life is wrong, but what if in certain medical circumstances? It wasn’t wrong at all, but merciful , instead. If a person’s life ending suffering becomes so unbearable, the person should have the right a peaceful death with the assistance of a doctor. PAD is a medical treatment, one of many compassionate end-of-life health care options that should be available to critically ill individuals Question: If your spouse develop a disease that brought suffering, do you think they should be able to ask for medical help to end their life? Law 2015 The Supreme Court of Canada ruled that seriously and incurably ill Canadian who are suffering unbearably at the end of life do have the right to seek a compassionate death with the assistance of a doctor. strict limits are placed on who can access the law, the laws have layers of safeguards to ensure that an individual is competent 勝任 and protected against any coercion 強迫 argument: dying ppl will be coerced to end their lives Switzerland, the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Colombia U.S.: Oregon, Washington, Montana, New Mexico, Vermont In most jurisdictions, 2 or more doctors are required to examine the patient, review the medical file and ensure that the individual is fully informed and acting voluntarily PAD is rarely accessed or used and when it is, the laws have been safely and responsibly carried out 3 principles: 1. compassion Peter his appetite is gone, he can no longer eat solid food, he’s afraid he’ll choke he gasped and choked for air A doctor sedated Peter to the point of semi consciousness No one should be forced to suffer such a cruel death. When all else fails, when medical treatments, pain management comfort care, hospital care are no longer to relieve extreme suffering, they would have the option to die painlessly and with compassion finally 2. Protection The previous laws had the unwanted effect of forcing some critically ill individuals to take their own lives prematurely. Because they were afraid if they waited too long, they would be no longer be physically capable of ending their life How can law meant to prolong life or save lives actually end up killing people? Naggy Huntington’s disease: a fatal degenerative disease of the brain mentally vacant overdose on pills the police commenced a 4-month homicide investigation save ppl from taking their own lives too soon only applies to individuals who have a grievous and irremediable medical condition, aka no chance of recovery or an acceptable cure. The individual must clearly request life-ending assistance and the ruling only applies to critically ill adults whose suffering is enduring and intolerable 3. Respect fundamental right to make personal choices based on his or her own values and beliefs Simply knowing they have that choice even if they never need it brings peace of mind in their final day
If you want this law in YOUR state, then you are free to advocate for it. Allow people in other states to do as they will. This is NOT a "one size fits all" approach. Many states in the Bible Belt region of the country would never tolerate this. If you support this, good for you, but I don't, and I will not tolerate it for myself or my family.
I support death with dignity laws but I'm afraid that if death with dignity laws are enacted that greedy insurance companies may push for death with dignity instead of providing long-term care.
Beneficence is the obligation to do good for others. Doctors and other healthcare professionals often attempt to practice beneficence by treating patients to the maximum that money, time, and technology will allow. But what about when treatment contradicts itself such as in the case of end-of-life care and dying with dignity? We often see patients who have dementia or some other mental illness who have lost their dignity. They can no longer think or care for themselves. They are wearing diapers and live in a place where they would not have wanted to have been before their illness. These people are kept alive for many years and they, their families, and society all suffer and pay for it. I personally, would not want to be kept alive if I were to lose my mental capacity. So would it be of my beneficence to continue to treat me and keep me alive if I were in a mentally debilitated state? I do not think so, but I do realize that my perception of independence/dependence varies from other people’s. Susan Wendell said “independence is defined according to a society's expectations about what people normally do for themselves and how they do it”. I understand that these problems are very complex even within families. My own grandfather fell from a ladder just over a year ago and hit his head. We thought for some time that he may not survive but my grandmother insisted that he will soon return to his old self. He slowly got better and went from being completely incapacitated to somewhat being able to have a conversation and being able to eat food. He is however far from the man he once was. He does not usually recognize his own children and really only has the mental capacity of a small child. If it were me, I would have rather died than end up that way, and I believe that he probably would have too; but to my grandmother, I would rather he be this way than to be gone. However, I am not sure that is to her benefit or to anyone else in my family.
Every Mortal has an obligation to die it's not a right it is mandatory there's no way around that. It's just as simply a fact of when and how we die is also does not just for those who are terminally ill they will die eventually anyhow. But there are those who are disabled physically and mentally to the point that they are no longer fit to be in society. And as a result in some they have to be institutionalized for that reason. And also there are families that do not like disabled people so they just get rid of them. Regardless of the reason why that disable person is institutionalized in some cases end up being taken advantage of and end up being abused for decades while they're institutionalize and that also includes the elderly in nursing homes as well and they usually ends up becoming a liability personally and financially and Society wise due to discrimination that takes place against the disabled to the point that they cannot function in society because no one wants them. At some point society is going to have to decide who is salvageable and who is not, and those who are not salvageable. At some point society as a whole is going to have to give those who are not salvageable to be put out of their misery is painlessly and humanely as possible. Due to the fact that there are agencies and individuals will likely will take advantage of the disabled for financial gain who really have no intention of helping the disabled anyhow.
A human life is a human life,. Are you suggesting that in the future we should put the disabled down like a dog? Karma dear. You could one day be the disabled one that needs help, by your standard. This is about allowing a very ill person pass with dignity. Your thinking is jacked up. How old are you anyway? 20?
@@CarolynDenison Age does not matter and I am not against dying with dignity the reality is not everyone who is disabled gets to live a life with dignity. And definitely you have no idea what it is to be disabled and the consequences that come along with it, and there are some cases that life itself becomes a liability for that person who is disabled would do anything to be free from a body that no longer or never had work for them. unless you have been disabled yourself you have no idea what it's like and as far as my age is concern that is irrelevant anyhow. A good majority of us has no idea that we are one wrong move away or one bad stroke away from becoming truly a disabled person ourselves that is no longer an asset to themselves nor to their families as a result they become a liability depending on the financial hardship of that families is in. And also you failed to realize that are people who prey on the disabled and love to abuse them because they are disabled an easy prey and they know that they can get away with it most of the time. And this same kind of s*** take place in group homes and other care facilities that they're supposed to take care of them but that's not all ways happens. What kind of life is that? no life at all, the disabled does nothing but suffer all day long and these facilities as the rest of the world doesn't give a s*** about them as long as we don't have to look at them north deal with let along live with them at all. how many disabled people did you see on the streets recently? How many Down syndrome individuals that you saw by themselves going wherever they want to go without being supervised? What kind of life is that, how would you like it if you have to be supervised like that to the point that they do not trust you because you are disabled, and what kind of life is that? no life at all and not worth it. If it were up to me on how I come into this world I rather come into this world perfect right from the start physically and mentally perfectly right from the start. Or I don't come into this world at all. My years of being on this Earth I definitely learned that weakness has never been acceptable and has never been tolerated. And what's coming down the road in the years ahead and what you going to be seeing and what you going to encounter yourself you are going to want to leave this plane of existence yourself. And you're going to remember what I said you may not like what I say but you are going to agree with me eventually it's just a matter of time.
June 2016. Last year. Not even a year yet. :( No dignity in assisted suicide. Every Life is Love, a Gift, lets us show compassion to all and tell them they are a Gift! they are NOT burdens. they feel like burdens and assisted suicide plays on that. :( they are NOT burdens, theyare GIFTS! Show them Compassion! Write to your MLAs, to tell them you do not agree with the courts decision and that these lives matter and Doctors save lives, not end them and show Love to these Gifted Lives.
But I DO agree with this and think it should have been passed a lot sooner. You should have the right to end YOUR pain and suffering whenever you wish. Assisted suicide is not about being a burden to the family it is about ending one's pain and suffering, you want to talk about compassion but you think the person should have to wait in pain, suffer and loss of dignity? Death with Dignity is not hurting anyone, you are given the RIGHT to choose if you wish to die or not, if you read the law it states only the person dieing can make the pills, the only thing is their death is not ruled as a suicide, it is ruled as whatever caused them to become sick in the first place.
Joanne Larcher Hate to break it to you, but most people with a brain support assisted suicide/death with dignity. If you don't like it, don't participate in it. To try to take that right away from others is downright cruel.
respect should extend to those of faith. let them beleive as they wish, just respectfully let the world know that its not their choice to decide that people arent allowed to die in peace, people should be free to make their own decitions when it comes to their life as long as it doesnt directly and physically harm the lives of others.
I personally love my dog more than my human family. But that's me and my life. In general animals and humans are equally sentient and equally valuable.
Does anyone know where i find the transcript for this speech? I've tried searching on their website but i can't find this particular speech... I need it for a paper that i have to write -_-
Children suffer painfull and agonizing death because of cancer or other disease's that are terminal without a choice or way out. Adults should die the same.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... Harm is if they are suffering and the doctor won't or can't end there pain. This is about when there isn't any other way to stop the suffering.
Riley Proffitt leaving someone in pain is breaking their oath !! Can't you see that ??? I have to live with that !!! Cuz a doctor thinks that his or her religion is more important than the persons needs !!! Isn't that the case ???? If they can't do the job quit and become plumbers it's that simple !!!
Please show support and LOVE, and CARE by writing to your government, your MLA, saying you do Not agree with the supreme court of Canada's decisions on assisted suicide. (it is death with NO dignity when done assisted suicide, 70% really do not want it, but thier choices are taken away from them, and all they want is to be loved and care for and they do not want suicide which is no dignity in dying at all). Their Lives do matter, they are loved, they are a Gift and make them feel special! Spend time with them and be with them. All of people feel they do not want to be a burden, show them they are NOT A burden, Show them they are a GIFT! Being with them and do what you can to LOVE them and show and write to your MLAs and Governemnt to show you do NOT support assisted suicide. That is NO dignity in it. Show Compassion! Show Empathy!
Do you know how many people buy the medication and never go through with it? About 40% of the patients! No one forces anyone's hand, they are called the day before and asked if they are sure they want to proceed, then they are called the morning of before the physician goes to the where the patient is and is asked again if they still want to proceed and when the physician arrives at where the patient is, the patient is asked again if they still want to proceed and if they say yes, the physician will ask them if he/she knows that if he/she drinks this or turns the IV on, that they will die. So no one is having their arm twisted and made to do it. They also have to be cleared that their decision isn't being made out of a sole state of depression. Please Joanne, do your research before you start talking about something!
Just to be able to have that choice gives them more power to continue living! It is when they feel doomed to continue to exist without a choice that makes them want to die even more. When that roulette wheel of diseases comes your way and you find yourself existing like a science project with no way to communicate your mind will change. I am a nurse. I take care of vent patients. Many who can only communicate by spelling with their eyes, and are completely dependent on others for all their care. Excess secretions running down their face, suctioning their mouths, and their trachs constantly. They do not have that choice here in PA like they do in Canada. My father slways told me Joanne, "When you don't know what youre talking about, keep your mouth closed. Never pass up a good opportunity to shut up!"
Melissa Mason I'm a nurse as well and have taken care of vent patients as well. All avenues are used when it comes to clarification of a patient wanting to have a physician assisted suicide. If that patient cannot properly answer that, then they aren't even considered. I agree that the choice may give someone more of a will to live. Everyone's reasons are different, some may not want to be a burden on their families or they know that with the progression of their illness will lead to a painful death and sometimes both! I feel we all should be able to decide if our quality of life is deminishing and death is inevitable, how we want our death be! I live in SC and we don't have that choice either, by what I've heard though, is that PA is in the works of getting it passed, I need to go back and check, so don't quote me on that!
We don’t need it . It’s already here through the Back Door. I’m taking from personal experience. Nobody suffers unless the powers that be see fit to end that persons life. ie too old to spend £1000s to keep them alive. These people have chosen to let these people suffer . They Have got their own agendas going on.
If it’s gods will that someone lingers in pain for weeks or months then his a psychopath and it seems you’d have dodged a bullet by not going to heaven
I was so turned off at the very beginning of your blog because of how you present yourself. The microphone, the applause, so cold. You remind me of a salesperson promoting a pitch. Your entire speech was so predictable.
This is horrible, you people are advocating giving the state the power to kill anyone based on medical circumstances. What about insurance. What if the cost is cheaper to kill a patient than treat them?
So the standard of having the "right to suicide" should just be based on the ever-shifting general consensus of what we call intolerable suffering? Death does not alleviate pain, it simply sets however you feel in stone as your final experience as you enter eternity (whatever you believe that to be). People can control their outlook on happiness and suffering more than proponents of it are admitting. Even if you gather family and friends around you in a bed, if your suffering outweighs your relief/joy in that moment, and no palliative care options can ease your pain, then how will death do the job? None of us have truly died and come back to elaborate on what happens next, whether it's merely non-existence in regards to consciousness, or if there is an afterlife. There is currently no scientific way to map out the brain in its last moments to see if it experienced any form of absolute resolve, and then consistently replicate that for all people who are dying in a controlled environment. Our only option to alleviate suffering is to FIGHT it, cruel though that may sound.
It sounds so dystopian to me...life is meant to be lived...Steven Hawking had such a difficult condition and yet he chose to live and engage with the world no matter how hard it got...our life is precious and is meant to be lived...I lean left on the pol spectrum but this is way too far..sure some people may suffer a lot and it maybe a good option for a very few people...but to glorify it n make it a movement?? I can see a slippery slope in the making which is so scary ...given how impressionable our younger generation is today...
I understand and totally support the idea. But how many of health care professionals are willing to do the procedure? Is it easy to find a doctor who is doing this type of thing? Is it ok for physician to take people's life away just because they studied the medicine? Again, I do understand and support the idea of medical assisted suicide. But I just think that it's too much to ask someone else to end your life because that someone else is also just a human. Personally, I want to live with dignity. I know people should have different point of views but committing suicide is not what I call "dignity."
Grace, as a parent of a sick child, meeting you and hearing your speech meant a lot to me; it gave me hope that if my family is ever faced with such an unthinkable choice, we can have the confidence to make it knowing we won't be punished for doing the best we can, for those we love. Thank you again for a powerful message.
All our lives are terminal. Death with dignity should be extended all humanity.
I agree.
I agree 100 percent
My life, my choice. Nothing eternal can be destroyed and that which can be destroyed was never made to be eternal. No one has the right to dictate how much suffering another person must continue to endure.
This should be a option in all states and countries. If you see a loved one suffering( a uncle with brain cancer) he was in such pain from seizures his eyes were literally bulging from his face In to final days it was absolutely heartbreaking to see and knowing he was just suffering...praying one day the negative stigma around this lessens and becomes a option in all areas of the world.
I don't have to be terminally ill to exit life. If your born without your concent don't you have the right to exit when you have had enough? Forcing people to continue living when they don't is CRIMINAL.
Exactly.
But who is going to be the one forcing people to cont. living when they don't? If a physician refused to proceed medically assisted suicide based on his/her belief, do you think he/she is a criminal because they let people suffer? I understand and agree that people should have a choice to make a decision. But I feel like asking someone else to do that for you is too much. Watching people suffering is painful and heartbreaking, but taking someone's life away is something you cannot force the other person to do. Doctors are the human being just like rest of us. They are not a God.
@@yukoyamada1958 there's somebody in the world who's gonna be okay with doing it though. There are all types of doctors. Not every doctor is going to have to assist with suicide. Like how some doctors now just do check-ups, while others do full on surgeries. You work with what you're comfortable with. And even so, some people just work for a profit. There are so many people in the world right now, I'm almost certain that there's at least 1 person willing to do the job. Nobody's being forced to help someone end their life, but to say that a law has to be enforced to stop it, someone had to be willing in the past, right?
A.D. Absolutely YES. Ultimately, YOU inhabit your body & YOU know (the best of anybody) what your feelings, experiences & meanings add up to, or not! YOU get to decide what's right for your death & dying process. It seems to me that in western cultures, one must COMPLETELY control the end of their life in order to end their suffering.( If someone knows about it & does not try to stop it, they could be charged as an accomplice. If they are there when it happens, they could be charged with MURDER. NO.)
Agreed.
I am 33 with terminal breast cancer. I wish this was an option in Texas. Not that I would choose it right now but down the line I would. I think watching me suffer and waste away will do more emotional damage to my husband and children. I'm not afraid of death, I'm afraid of suffering. I never knew cancer hurt until it was all over my body.
+Coopdizzle You are close to Mexico. It is possible to obtain barbiturates there than can end your suffering. Of course it is illegal. What is legal is inhalation of helium or nitrogen, but it is probably illegal to have anyone directly to help you with that. May the rest of your life be a growth period, and when you get to the end, you have a wonderful surprise waiting. Free download "Life in the World Unseen" will tell you much about what to expect.
Coopdizzle I feel for you come to California, look online, I'm currently looking into it. there are ways! don't give up
I hope you're all right sweetie, wherever you are.
Coopdizzle god bless you and your family. I hope you are doing just fine...
With love from North Carolina
Joanne Larcher not everyone believes in Jesus, and leaving this world on my own terms seems like the way to go. Terminally I'll patients lack one thing: control. If people can go without pain then I don't see why not. Either way, its best not to judge people's choices over their own bodies
Thank you for shedding light on such an issue. I haven't personally experienced what you are talking about, but we all know pain and suffering, and it seems to me that the Supreme Court of Canada has reached a most compassionate decision. We have people like you to thank for that, people who have fought and are still fighting today for the right to death with dignity, on behalf of those who can no longer do so. Well, thank you Grace.
I've been doing some research on this and I have to say that it is refreshing to see sane people talk about the subject
Sane does not mean unbiased I would be happy to discuss this with you if you would like to learn about someone who has a different belief
My life my death my career are my choice only
@@HansSilver I hate to break it to you but that's not how the world works you are not entitled to never get hurt you are not entitled to a life without grief I'm sorry but it's just not sometimes people suffer it's not the end of the world
jonapple but he only suffer it is like been see while one is blind it is different and senseless
@@HansSilver what?
Some people suffer everyday and live in mental bondage and feel that death is the only way to be free.
So True!And that in itself is the HELL!A suicide (war, illness, mental, abuse, accidents, 9-11 etc.)allows a soul to be free
I strongly support and believe in Grace Pastine’s view and advocacy for physician assisted suicide (PAS). I have in fact done a bit of research into this highly controversial topic outside of this video. There are arguments of a ‘slippery slope’ and unsafe procedures and the death is not the patient's choice, and religion, some of which she touched on. My initial argument is to go out there and get educated, be open and hear the other side, look at some statistics, and consider the ethics. Pastine talks about compassion, protection and respect; all of which I think are valid point and only help the argument, but I would like to take this further and relate some of her points to ethics. First off in regards to a common morality principle known and respect for autonomy. In accordance to this principle, doctors are morally obliged to follow what a patient wishes gien they are competent, educated on the situation, and making a choice which can be reasoned. Pastine talks on the fact that there are strict guidelines and procedure put in place around PAS. These regulations and the legalization of PAS there to allow the autonomous decision of PAS while ensuring it is not occurring in an illogical situation. A fact to be rightly admired. These regulations also serve to successfully refute and illuminate the ideas people have about PAS turning into a ‘slippery slope’ and individuals being coerced. Take a look at the Netherlands and the research they have done into their PAS happenings and you will find disproof of these ideas. Secondly are two other common morality principle to consider nonmaleficence and beneficence. Beneficence is the act of doing things for the benefit of others, while nonmaleficence is the act of preventing harm to others. These principles are similar to each other but present in different ways, both of which connect to PAS. They also fit well with the compassion Pastine talks on and finds as one of the most prevalent factors in the legalization of PAS. When PAS is performed it allows the doctor to benefit the patient by respecting their wishes and actively avoiding the pain and harm that come from illness that allow one to go through with PAS. A final point Pastine brings up, only briefly, is that of religion. Many with religious beliefs argue against PAS due to their belief that killing oneself will send a soul to hell. For such individuals, there is nothing wrong with this view. Ethically speaking religious beliefs, as long as they are your own and not forced on you by others, can morally affect your decisions and beliefs. In this way their opposition to PAS and their choice not to participate is moral. However there inhibiting of others who do not share their same beliefs is not moral. It is a violation of another's autonomy, and thus an immoral act. Im sure there is still much more controversy out there and arguments you could throw at me, but I stand by my belief and the reasoning I use to back it.
It's so sad to see or hear about how people die, no one chooses to be born, they should have the right to choose when they die, and to die peacefuly with nature's once available plants
i have never understood the opposition to assisted suicide. its my life, my body, i can do what i want with it. isnt it really that simple to the core?
Religion is the opposition.
Nick Llano God never prevent killing peoples and never helps
Yup. God ain't here. They need to mind their business it isn't their prison, it isn't their pain. They can't judge it needs to be an option for everyone just in case.
Correct
People might misuse it.
Admire the speaker’s courage for speaking out on the topic while withholding an avalanche of tears.
Every human being deserves a dignified death...We must do everything to make Grace's campaign a success!
assisted suicide is not a digified death. it is the most Un digified death ever. no love, no compassion, saying these lives are burdens, they already feel like burdens right now. Make sure it is NOT a sucesss. They are NOT burdens, they are Gifts. They are loved and they need to show they are Gifts. and Compassion to them. By saying they are not burdens, they are Gifts!
Joanne///// You are like a broken record. Saying the same thing over and over and over and over again. We are of the same opinion still. If it were possible, I would transfer all my suffering to you so you could have a larger Gift. Pain is the biggest burden one can have.
Joanne Larcher um have you ever been dying with a horrific terminal illness? with no hope of living more then a month? Don't speak of things you have not personally went through.
Joanne Larcher wow your so wacked out , no love no compassion,wtf .. I had my dog euthanized because I loved him so much and put his need to end suffering above my own emotional connection, that's true compassion...you must think suffering intolerable pain is a gift ...you screwball you are so ignorant
@@joannelarcher6246
Why is Al Qaeda more compassionate than you?
The 9/11 hijackers got to die instantly.
One person's choices about end of life care should NEVER be dictated by another person's spiritual path. If it's down to death with dignity or religion, get religion outta here. But of course it does not need to be that way. People decide every other aspect of their life. Why shouldn't they have a say in their death if they are clearly suffering from an incurable disease? It seems like common sense to me.
Death isn't a problem. It's a cure. Only the cruelest person wouldn't want patients to have access to a cure.
Our animals for with more dignity than we do.
Should be allowed for those who have untreatable depression.
ELECTRICCLOCK Yes, couldn't agree more.
Idk. Yes and no. A high magority of people after going to an institute and getting help thank people for not letting them die. Less than 4% of people with depression commit suicide in the five years following that and less than 11 percent will commit suicide over the next 35 years. I beleive, if after getting sufficiant help, they still want to die, then this option could be implemented.
Belgium allows people with "unbearable suffering" from both psychological and terminal illnesses.
Absofuckinglutely!! My life, my suffering, my choice!!
It should be allowed for untreatable pain of any kind. People with long standing chronic pain, who have diseases that are not likely to kill them but can make being alive a nightmare should be allowed it too.
Thanks for all your hard work Grace!!
Hard work?? Ha ha! She wears comfortable clothes, works in an air conditioned and heated office, and likely is quite wealthy.
Hard work? Whatever.
I agree that some people do not have to endure a humiliating existence. Especially when the condition is extrem. No matter what age they are.
This should apply to mental illness also which can be worse than physical illness.
Like Autisim?
If it is one such as Alzheimer’s. The right to physician-assisted death/suicide should not be extended to those with mental illnesses such as anxiety or depression, as these illnesses are able to be treated and overcome, and may affect a person’s decision on whether or not to end their life.
I agree with you. I have chronic depression which can’t be cured. I want to have the right to die with dignity. I have no hope left.
Dedric There is a place called Dignitas, they are the pioneers for PAS and do PAS for persons with severe depression. They are in Belgium I believe. I know they used to do it, not sure if they still do or not and it costs about $12,500.
This is a tricky point, but I'm inclined to agree with you, and not just because I'm mentally ill. I believe that ANYONE in legal adulthood should have the right to take their own life for any reason, whenever they want to, as long as they've been declared sane (ie still in touch with reality). This needs to fall under the heading of "body autonomy" as far as I'm concerned. There are a number of reasons why someone would want to end their life, even if they're not in severe physical or emotional pain. The universe is a strange place. Merely not wanting to be alive anymore is enough of a reason. It really is no one else's business and I don't see how anyone has the right to stop another person from doing what they want with their own body. If you happen to value your life and want to keep living it, then good for you, but who are you to make that decision for other people?
My dad shot himself because he didn't have the option of assisted suicide. He was terminal in a lot of pain, he had no humane option. On top of this he had to take this painful action.....alone.
I am sorry for your loss
@@sakshipoojary2390 thank you
I have same plan.
There is no help in my state, Arizona.
Forced to be alone with my pain and death.
@@elainebraindrain3174 an absolutely devastating choice, we have more compassion for our pets than our fellow human beings..... The world has gone mad.... Sending you love, compassion and strength 💜💔💜
@@jillysponges thank you very much for your kindness🥰
We end animals life all the time. You hear people say " don't let that animal suffer". My question is why do animals have that choice but us humans have to suffer?
Beacause animals are better and deserve better however humans should be aloud not to suffer
hope the world will wake up and find out that death is a right
I love this!
if my dog can die peacefully, i should be able to too.... just saying
Hailey Chiola we must fight for our freedom!!!
Call your doctor and government officials.
Give them no peace until we get our freedom.
And if that doesn't work !!!
Let's try gasoline.
2000 degrees might just change their minds !!!
but is it your choice or your dog's choice?
Because of Jesus and religion.
This isn't a debate on whether or not to "okay" suicide. This is a debate on how to make it more humane, less physically painful for the patient, and allow the family to have closure with that person. Suicide will happen without all of those things, but why not allow it to be an option? I think this is a fair decision.
Well.... Here we are in the future, 2 years from your comment and now Assisted Suicide is legal in Canada. Congratulations, this turned into a slip down that slippery slope towards the suicide argument for people with depression or any mental illness at any age and hospital staff also pressure patients to do it cause of the cost of care. Glad people like you supported this stuff... So Progressive. Psychopaths
Plus, it will clearly help with the latest Govt cuts to benefits for the disabled. Dark shades of Germany in the 1930s?
I mean if people are denied assured suicide, they will just end up killing themselves anyway, so why not let them do It peacefully surrounded by family and assisted by a doctor
Grace Pastine did an exceptional job at addressing the controversial subject of physician-assisted suicide (PAS). My initial belief and assumption of PAS was that it violated the trust patients place in their doctor to do no harm. The ethical principle of nonmaleficence expresses the concept that physicians have a duty to protect the patient from harm. After watching this presentation and doing further research, I agree with Ms. Pastine that individuals should have the right to a peaceful and dignified death with the assistance of a physician. Individuals with no chance of recovery or an acceptable cure should not be forced to suffer a slow excruciating death. They should be given the option to die painlessly with compassion. This also allows the opportunity for their family and friends to say goodbye and peacefully grieve the death of their loved one. PAS is the last request of the patient for autonomy. The ethical principle of autonomy describes the right of competent adults to make informed decisions about their own medical care and the physician’s respect for the preferences of the patient. These seriously and incurably ill individuals are able to decide how much suffering to endure and how they choose to say goodbye. The opposition argues that PAS is a “slippery slope” where the limits will slowly erode. They claim that there is a steady increase each year in the number of people committing suicide with the help of their physician. They also state that if PAS is legalized for one category of people then it is only a matter of time before it is extended to other individuals. These arguments are valid and that is why it is so important for tight regulation and strict limits to be in place. Currently there are layers of safeguards to ensure that individuals are competent to make this decision and protected against coercion. Ms. Pastine explained that most jurisdictions require two or more doctors to examine the patient, review the medical file, and ensure the individual is fully informed and acting voluntarily. These safeguards and regulations help to prevent individuals from taking their own life too soon. Some religious groups oppose PAS stating that it deliberately destroys human life that was created by God and it violates divine law. I respect the opinions, values, and beliefs of all individuals and religious groups. They have the right to oppose and not engage in this practice, but PAS should be an option for those people with other opinions, values, and beliefs. All individuals should have the right to die with dignity.
Why only the critically ill have that right? Shouldn't we all have that right?
I agree we should.
Its illogical. Doctors who are known as life saviour will make a person die because he was in deep poverty, betrayed or have any social trauma.. and not a physical injury/trauma.
Accordingly....every depressed person will visit doctor to end their life rather than looking for a positive way.
Alexandru Popescu not only should we !!
We do they just won't let us access that right !!
Read my comments you'll understand !!
I feel we all should have a right regardless of health.
@@phoenixtoash2396 Yes, but... I wast talking theoretically. And there should be some checks to make sure this is the last resort.
I decided to watch this video because it’s a topic that; I never understood the whole policy and requirements behind physician assisted death, I also have just wanted to solidify my viewpoint on this topic. As a person of faith I have had a hard time deciding what is right and what is wrong in the eyes of God regarding physician assisted death. In my eyes, I still think that after researching and learning about the guidelines or requirements of this medical treatment that a large grey area still remains. At least to me, the distinguished line between acceptable suffering and not life altering suffering has not yet been defined. I believe that every person has their own right to die with painless dignity. Giving an extremely ill patient a compassionate end of life healthcare option is very important and meaningful to their well-being. I learned some of the limits and policies that the Supreme Court of Canada enacted in February of 2015, and it has helped me gain a better understanding of what is needed to follow through with a patients request to die. For example, Life Ending Suffering is defined as pain that is so unbearable that death with assistance of a physician is desired. The Supreme Court of Canada also gave some of the strict limits or guidelines that must be made clear before allowing a patient to be cleared for assisted death. The patient must be fully competent to make their own life decisions, they must be protected against coercion, also most jurisdictions require two or more doctors to examine the patient, review medical files, fully inform the patient, and make sure he/she is acting in a voluntary manner. This procedure of physician assisted dying is now considered to be a medical treatment in Canada and a few participating states. Physician assisted dying is rarely used, when it is the laws permitted have always been safely and responsibly carried out. Through the experience of other countries and states with this law affirm 3 different principles that truly matter to those with a severe medical condition. The first principle being compassion, a sympathetic concern for the sufferings or misfortunes of others. The second is protection, the Supreme Court of Canada regulated a system of safe guards to determine the best protection. This would save people from taking their own lives to soon. The safe guards would only apply to citizens who have a grievance, no chance of recovery or acceptable cure. They again, must clearly request the life ending assistance if their suffering is clearly enduring and intolerable. The last principle being respecting an individual’s fundamental rights to make deeply personal choices based on his/her values or beliefs. Critically ill patients should be allowed to make the choices that they believe are right for them. This is what I have gathered to help formulate a better understanding of this issue. Questions regarding the acceptable types of illness remain. I think this confusing for me because something such as pain is truly subjective, everyone feels pain in different ways. A disease can impact every person in a different way and what if someone’s pain threshold is much lower than that of the standards and they are enduring severe intolerable pain? Are they ignored due to the textbook’s ranking of severity? Regarding a less severe disease in which there is no acceptable cure, a patient wants to end the suffering that he deems as intolerable. What course of action is taken place to make sure the patients’ needs are satisfied? Lastly my curiosity to this situation in children? Obviously if they are under 18 they cannot make that legal decision but they too are suffering from an extremely painful degenerative or terminal illness and they coherently tell their parents that they want an end to the pain and suffering. Are they turned away because of their age? Or if parental consent is given is the medical treatment still considered? These are just a few of the questions I have thought about while educating myself on this topic. I found the Tedx Talks videos to be extremely helpful! Thank you!
it is not dying with Dignity. It is dying with No dignity. We all suffer, and this life is from conception to Natural Death. In Netherlands kids now can have assisted suicide. There is no age limit to it. They are not even certain about the termology in Canada yet, they are still working on it. Ted Talks, this one was Not helpful. First people who are suffering, (everyone we all suffer in this life, it is part of this life, suicide pro longs suffering to the next life and you don't enter Heaven where there is no suffering and endless love and joy). are feel like a Burden to people, they don't want to In conveince people and so people like her in this video play on it. WE all have to show Love, Compassion, to everyone, SHOW them they are NOT a burden EVER! They are A GIFT to us! And no one knows if they do have a terminal illness, there is not just for terminal illness, it is for mental illness too and just suffering in plain suffering. 70% (there has been 800 deaths since they legal assisted suicide in Canada, and it has not been a year yet!) of people do not want assisted suicide, they feel like a burden, but are taken their choices away by a certain time and the decision is made for them. They want to not feel like a burden and want someone to love them and care for them and show compassion and know their Life is a gift! :) Which it is! I watch a video about this couple, and it showed how this husband loves his wife and said she is no burden, she is a Gift. She went to a Natural Death and died with Dignity of a Natual Death knowing she is loved and peace and A Gift to those around her not a burden trying to get rid of her suffering and die with no dignity through assisted suicide by leathel injections. That is no way for anyone to know. God does not want that for us. Can't go to Heaven. :( taking ones life is a sin and helping to take one's life is a sin. Show love and Compassion and say they are a Gift, not a burden and write to your MLA in No we do not agree with the supreme court of Canada. :( Show them these lives are Gifts and Love and Compassion.
Joanne???? What is your source of information as to what God wants for us, who can or cannot go to heaven, and what is a sin?
@ Joanne. You have spewed your irrational babble on almost _every_ thread in this comment section. You have achieved *nothing* besides exposing your mental sickness. Your beliefs cause *nothing* but suffering, thus your god is obsolete.
@@joannelarcher6246 Everyone should have the freedom of choice. No one should suffer excruciating pain unnecessarily unless they want to. If you don't like it, then you don't do it..
I agree, we all have the right for a dignified death! Why is okey to do it for animals and no for humans.? Just think that could happen to any of us!
Gloria sounds awesome.
The fact is people will do it any way, why make it any harder than it already is. It a choice that an individual must make on their own behalf. If you don't like it then don't YOU do it. Just allow other's to choose for themselves. I read a statistic that said only 70% of people that are free to
use physician assisted suicide actually end up using it. When they know if their suffering becomes unbearable they can say enough is enough and it will be over, they relax and get on with living. It's the fear of suffering, not death it's self. Death is inevitable, suffering doesn't have to be.
NJSMKMMS we should all have the freedom of choice !!!
Let no one suffer needlessly unless they want to !!!
This should’ve been available all over already. We wouldn’t be okaying “suicides” just as it’s said death with dignity
I have the right to choose how I die and meet Yeshua.
I thought suicide is sinful in Christianity and Islam and Judaism?
I wish the UK would catch up.
Unlikely ever to happen, we're more behind than anyone.
@@Muskateering *the USA has entered the chat* 😂
I have a 38 year old son father of two young children husband life lover with a incurable cancer.. I am knowledgeable about what suffering lies ahead eventually for my fine young son..my therapist asked me whether he would choose to end his suffering by stopping treatments or other methods..like his mother he lives life with passion..we cannot place the emotional valuation always on those who physically suffer..it’s a soulful and difficult question..centered on each individuals values beliefs perception of death and support system..I don’t want my son to suffer..but I raised him to have a voice and choices..I trust he will make the choice that embraces dignity love compassion for others and self love...I will not encourage or discourage his choice..because it’s his to make..
Like chronic low back pain, sciatic nerve pain and mental dis ease. It works in Belgium, why not here!?
Hospice is the way Americans get comfortable. Better pain meds, even better palliative care. ALS is a death sentence for sure. I don't want to struggle with pain either.
Thank you for saying the proper term
We have 20 plus years in the animal shelter business. I'd never let a family member die slowly and in pain.
Powerful message!
This is a very important issue that, in the future, should be a right once an individual has been screened and provided their case without outside pressure. Although it is a physician's duty to uphold the values of beneficence and non-maleficence, it is imperative that we do not take those duties as a one-sided issue that must continue the lives of patients at all cost in the case the patient has made the conscious decision to end their life. This is especially true for the terminally ill and those living in agony, mental or physical. In the United States physician assisted suicide is largely frowned upon because of the physicians role as a healer and its "uncontrollable nature" according to the AMA. States such as Oregon and Washington have legalized PAS for some time now and has not led to any uncontrollable or dangerous outcomes. Some of the benefits of legalizing PAS are that it gives those who suffer autonomy and control over the situation. Some research has even shown that giving people a means to end their lives this way prevents premature unregulated suicide. Physicians that do not want to take part are protected by conscientious objection laws and can refer patients much like in the case of abortion. Physicians that do take part in PAS are fulfilling their duty by reducing the suffering of their patients, and giving them the autonomy they deserve.
S.O.S. Please help me end my life in a nice pain free way I am POOR I will donate whatever body parts are still needed
Statement:
Human life is sacred, taking a life is wrong, but what if in certain medical circumstances? It wasn’t wrong at all, but merciful , instead.
If a person’s life ending suffering becomes so unbearable, the person should have the right a peaceful death with the assistance of a doctor.
PAD is a medical treatment, one of many compassionate end-of-life health care options that should be available to critically ill individuals
Question:
If your spouse develop a disease that brought suffering, do you think they should be able to ask for medical help to end their life?
Law
2015
The Supreme Court of Canada ruled that seriously and incurably ill Canadian who are suffering unbearably at the end of life do have the right to seek a compassionate death with the assistance of a doctor.
strict limits are placed on who can access the law, the laws have layers of safeguards to ensure that an individual is competent 勝任 and protected against any coercion 強迫
argument: dying ppl will be coerced to end their lives
Switzerland, the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Colombia
U.S.: Oregon, Washington, Montana, New Mexico, Vermont
In most jurisdictions, 2 or more doctors are required to examine the patient, review the medical file and ensure that the individual is fully informed and acting voluntarily
PAD is rarely accessed or used and when it is, the laws have been safely and responsibly carried out
3 principles:
1. compassion
Peter
his appetite is gone, he can no longer eat solid food, he’s afraid he’ll choke
he gasped and choked for air
A doctor sedated Peter to the point of semi consciousness
No one should be forced to suffer such a cruel death. When all else fails, when medical treatments, pain management comfort care, hospital care are no longer to relieve extreme suffering, they would have the option to die painlessly and with compassion finally
2. Protection
The previous laws had the unwanted effect of forcing some critically ill individuals to take their own lives prematurely. Because they were afraid if they waited too long, they would be no longer be physically capable of ending their life
How can law meant to prolong life or save lives actually end up killing people?
Naggy
Huntington’s disease: a fatal degenerative disease of the brain
mentally vacant
overdose on pills
the police commenced a 4-month homicide investigation
save ppl from taking their own lives too soon
only applies to individuals who have a grievous and irremediable medical condition, aka no chance of recovery or an acceptable cure. The individual must clearly request life-ending assistance and the ruling only applies to critically ill adults whose suffering is enduring and intolerable
3. Respect
fundamental right to make personal choices based on his or her own values and beliefs
Simply knowing they have that choice even if they never need it brings peace of mind in their final day
Wish we had this law in all US states. Canada has a great law dealing with medically assessed death
At least one US could adopt it and people could move there and die with dignity.
Trying to get such a bill passed here in Florida.
If you want this law in YOUR state, then you are free to advocate for it. Allow people in other states to do as they will. This is NOT a "one size fits all" approach. Many states in the Bible Belt region of the country would never tolerate this. If you support this, good for you, but I don't, and I will not tolerate it for myself or my family.
thank you for youe umoassion
I have lived my whole life in shame, why should I die with dignity!
I support death with dignity laws but I'm afraid that if death with dignity laws are enacted that greedy insurance companies may push for death with dignity instead of providing long-term care.
No, they would fight it. It is more profitable for them to keep that ill person alive then to help them die.
they can push for whatever they like, but no doctor can choose to purposefully end a patient's life in this way, and nor will they ever.
They have no say so about it. That like your next door neighbor having say so... Gawd
Beneficence is the obligation to do good for others. Doctors and other healthcare professionals often attempt to practice beneficence by treating patients to the maximum that money, time, and technology will allow. But what about when treatment contradicts itself such as in the case of end-of-life care and dying with dignity? We often see patients who have dementia or some other mental illness who have lost their dignity. They can no longer think or care for themselves. They are wearing diapers and live in a place where they would not have wanted to have been before their illness. These people are kept alive for many years and they, their families, and society all suffer and pay for it.
I personally, would not want to be kept alive if I were to lose my mental capacity. So would it be of my beneficence to continue to treat me and keep me alive if I were in a mentally debilitated state? I do not think so, but I do realize that my perception of independence/dependence varies from other people’s. Susan Wendell said “independence is defined according to a society's expectations about what people normally do for themselves and how they do it”.
I understand that these problems are very complex even within families. My own grandfather fell from a ladder just over a year ago and hit his head. We thought for some time that he may not survive but my grandmother insisted that he will soon return to his old self. He slowly got better and went from being completely incapacitated to somewhat being able to have a conversation and being able to eat food. He is however far from the man he once was. He does not usually recognize his own children and really only has the mental capacity of a small child. If it were me, I would have rather died than end up that way, and I believe that he probably would have too; but to my grandmother, I would rather he be this way than to be gone. However, I am not sure that is to her benefit or to anyone else in my family.
Maybe they are against it because it will save a lots money to a patients.
A medical professional shouldn’t be obligated to assist or prescribe. As long as it’s up to each doctor I’m good with it.
If there was ever a good time for death with dignity it is now.
what a beautiful and intelligent women
Every Mortal has an obligation to die it's not a right it is mandatory there's no way around that. It's just as simply a fact of when and how we die is also does not just for those who are terminally ill they will die eventually anyhow. But there are those who are disabled physically and mentally to the point that they are no longer fit to be in society. And as a result in some they have to be institutionalized for that reason. And also there are families that do not like disabled people so they just get rid of them. Regardless of the reason why that disable person is institutionalized in some cases end up being taken advantage of and end up being abused for decades while they're institutionalize and that also includes the elderly in nursing homes as well and they usually ends up becoming a liability personally and financially and Society wise due to discrimination that takes place against the disabled to the point that they cannot function in society because no one wants them. At some point society is going to have to decide who is salvageable and who is not, and those who are not salvageable. At some point society as a whole is going to have to give those who are not salvageable to be put out of their misery is painlessly and humanely as possible. Due to the fact that there are agencies and individuals will likely will take advantage of the disabled for financial gain who really have no intention of helping the disabled anyhow.
A human life is a human life,. Are you suggesting that in the future we should put the disabled down like a dog? Karma dear. You could one day be the disabled one that needs help, by your standard. This is about allowing a very ill person pass with dignity. Your thinking is jacked up. How old are you anyway? 20?
@@CarolynDenison Age does not matter and I am not against dying with dignity the reality is not everyone who is disabled gets to live a life with dignity. And definitely you have no idea what it is to be disabled and the consequences that come along with it, and there are some cases that life itself becomes a liability for that person who is disabled would do anything to be free from a body that no longer or never had work for them. unless you have been disabled yourself you have no idea what it's like and as far as my age is concern that is irrelevant anyhow. A good majority of us has no idea that we are one wrong move away or one bad stroke away from becoming truly a disabled person ourselves that is no longer an asset to themselves nor to their families as a result they become a liability depending on the financial hardship of that families is in. And also you failed to realize that are people who prey on the disabled and love to abuse them because they are disabled an easy prey and they know that they can get away with it most of the time. And this same kind of s*** take place in group homes and other care facilities that they're supposed to take care of them but that's not all ways happens. What kind of life is that? no life at all, the disabled does nothing but suffer all day long and these facilities as the rest of the world doesn't give a s*** about them as long as we don't have to look at them north deal with let along live with them at all. how many disabled people did you see on the streets recently? How many Down syndrome individuals that you saw by themselves going wherever they want to go without being supervised? What kind of life is that, how would you like it if you have to be supervised like that to the point that they do not trust you because you are disabled, and what kind of life is that? no life at all and not worth it. If it were up to me on how I come into this world I rather come into this world perfect right from the start physically and mentally perfectly right from the start. Or I don't come into this world at all. My years of being on this Earth I definitely learned that weakness has never been acceptable and has never been tolerated. And what's coming down the road in the years ahead and what you going to be seeing and what you going to encounter yourself you are going to want to leave this plane of existence yourself. And you're going to remember what I said you may not like what I say but you are going to agree with me eventually it's just a matter of time.
@@CarolynDenison karma doesn’t exist. We can put down whoever wants to die since death is inevitable.
Patients = profits
I have been suffering from depression since a long time .would it qualify me for euthanasia?
Me too undiagnosed illnesss plus depression, i wanna go peacefully from this world
At 6:30 in the video what was the day, month, year when the Canadian court ruled people had the right to die?
June 2016. Last year. Not even a year yet. :( No dignity in assisted suicide. Every Life is Love, a Gift, lets us show compassion to all and tell them they are a Gift! they are NOT burdens. they feel like burdens and assisted suicide plays on that. :( they are NOT burdens, theyare GIFTS! Show them Compassion! Write to your MLAs, to tell them you do not agree with the courts decision and that these lives matter and Doctors save lives, not end them and show Love to these Gifted Lives.
But I DO agree with this and think it should have been passed a lot sooner. You should have the right to end YOUR pain and suffering whenever you wish. Assisted suicide is not about being a burden to the family it is about ending one's pain and suffering, you want to talk about compassion but you think the person should have to wait in pain, suffer and loss of dignity? Death with Dignity is not hurting anyone, you are given the RIGHT to choose if you wish to die or not, if you read the law it states only the person dieing can make the pills, the only thing is their death is not ruled as a suicide, it is ruled as whatever caused them to become sick in the first place.
Joanne Larcher why don't you just keep your stupid ignorant opinion to you and your imaginary God ......
Joanne Larcher Hate to break it to you, but most people with a brain support assisted suicide/death with dignity. If you don't like it, don't participate in it. To try to take that right away from others is downright cruel.
respect should extend to those of faith. let them beleive as they wish, just respectfully let the world know that its not their choice to decide that people arent allowed to die in peace, people should be free to make their own decitions when it comes to their life as long as it doesnt directly and physically harm the lives of others.
I need that
I agree.
is there a transcription of this talk?
All life is sacred, animal and human equally much.
I personally love my dog more than my human family. But that's me and my life. In general animals and humans are equally sentient and equally valuable.
Agree
i meant compassion,i have ppms and am looking forward to maid , i have a right in canada
Does anyone know where i find the transcript for this speech? I've tried searching on their website but i can't find this particular speech... I need it for a paper that i have to write -_-
me neither, but you can use automatic translate
Can't listen to this presentation it's so rote, without inspiration, predictable.
Is there really a gentle, clean, pain free method to end a human being's life?
Months and years of endless suffering, pain and agony is certainly not it.
Co
Wow
I wish i could find enough pills to do it ie nembutal as im forcedcto live with increasing pain in my part of europe.
Children suffer painfull and agonizing death because of cancer or other disease's that are terminal without a choice or way out. Adults should die the same.
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I wonder if the turkey died with dignity to feed Gloria family and friends.
Lol
5:11 And how did she pay for all of this?? Was she wealthy?
I want to avail of Euthanasia but this is illegal in our Country. 😢😔
What about the oath the doctor's take, above all else do not harm" isn't this the ultimate form of harm?
The ultimate for of harm is letting and watching someone suffer when you could help
Doctor's usually cause death anyways given they only treat symptoms
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... Harm is if they are suffering and the doctor won't or can't end there pain. This is about when there isn't any other way to stop the suffering.
Riley Proffitt leaving someone in pain is breaking their oath !!
Can't you see that ???
I have to live with that !!!
Cuz a doctor thinks that his or her religion is more important than the persons needs !!!
Isn't that the case ????
If they can't do the job quit and become plumbers it's that simple !!!
Short answer.... No
9:51
NOTHING "SACRED" ABOUT HUMAN LIFE..!
Please show support and LOVE, and CARE by writing to your government, your MLA, saying you do Not agree with the supreme court of Canada's decisions on assisted suicide. (it is death with NO dignity when done assisted suicide, 70% really do not want it, but thier choices are taken away from them, and all they want is to be loved and care for and they do not want suicide which is no dignity in dying at all). Their Lives do matter, they are loved, they are a Gift and make them feel special! Spend time with them and be with them. All of people feel they do not want to be a burden, show them they are NOT A burden, Show them they are a GIFT! Being with them and do what you can to LOVE them and show and write to your MLAs and Governemnt to show you do NOT support assisted suicide. That is NO dignity in it. Show Compassion! Show Empathy!
Joanne Larcher
oh ffs do you have any idea what it's like to be dying. ANY CLUE
leave the choice to people a d quit it.
Shut up Joanne
Do you know how many people buy the medication and never go through with it? About 40% of the patients! No one forces anyone's hand, they are called the day before and asked if they are sure they want to proceed, then they are called the morning of before the physician goes to the where the patient is and is asked again if they still want to proceed and when the physician arrives at where the patient is, the patient is asked again if they still want to proceed and if they say yes, the physician will ask them if he/she knows that if he/she drinks this or turns the IV on, that they will die. So no one is having their arm twisted and made to do it. They also have to be cleared that their decision isn't being made out of a sole state of depression. Please Joanne, do your research before you start talking about something!
Just to be able to have that choice gives them more power to continue living! It is when they feel doomed to continue to exist without a choice that makes them want to die even more. When that roulette wheel of diseases comes your way and you find yourself existing like a science project with no way to communicate your mind will change.
I am a nurse. I take care of vent patients. Many who can only communicate by spelling with their eyes, and are completely dependent on others for all their care. Excess secretions running down their face, suctioning their mouths, and their trachs constantly. They do not have that choice here in PA like they do in Canada.
My father slways told me Joanne, "When you don't know what youre talking about, keep your mouth closed. Never pass up a good opportunity to shut up!"
Melissa Mason I'm a nurse as well and have taken care of vent patients as well. All avenues are used when it comes to clarification of a patient wanting to have a physician assisted suicide. If that patient cannot properly answer that, then they aren't even considered. I agree that the choice may give someone more of a will to live. Everyone's reasons are different, some may not want to be a burden on their families or they know that with the progression of their illness will lead to a painful death and sometimes both! I feel we all should be able to decide if our quality of life is deminishing and death is inevitable, how we want our death be! I live in SC and we don't have that choice either, by what I've heard though, is that PA is in the works of getting it passed, I need to go back and check, so don't quote me on that!
We don’t need it . It’s already here through the Back Door. I’m taking from personal experience. Nobody suffers unless the powers that be see fit to end that persons life. ie too old to spend £1000s to keep them alive. These people have chosen to let these people suffer . They Have got their own agendas going on.
She seems a little non-inclusive towards nonbinary people
No people should wait to God call you.if you take your on life you will not see Heaven never you will not be with Jesus at all
Not true
Prove it !
That doesn't sound like a loving God to me.
God doesn't exist and fk him if he did. He's a thug in my opinion but we can't seem to locate any scientific data of him ever existing.
If it’s gods will that someone lingers in pain for weeks or months then his a psychopath and it seems you’d have dodged a bullet by not going to heaven
I was so turned off at the very beginning of your blog because of how you present yourself. The microphone, the applause, so cold. You remind me of a salesperson promoting a pitch. Your entire speech was so predictable.
I'd never torture pro-lifers for money.
I'd do it for FUN!
This is horrible, you people are advocating giving the state the power to kill anyone based on medical circumstances. What about insurance. What if the cost is cheaper to kill a patient than treat them?
🙄🙄🙄🙄It's a choice.... Not a commandment.
So the standard of having the "right to suicide" should just be based on the ever-shifting general consensus of what we call intolerable suffering? Death does not alleviate pain, it simply sets however you feel in stone as your final experience as you enter eternity (whatever you believe that to be). People can control their outlook on happiness and suffering more than proponents of it are admitting. Even if you gather family and friends around you in a bed, if your suffering outweighs your relief/joy in that moment, and no palliative care options can ease your pain, then how will death do the job? None of us have truly died and come back to elaborate on what happens next, whether it's merely non-existence in regards to consciousness, or if there is an afterlife. There is currently no scientific way to map out the brain in its last moments to see if it experienced any form of absolute resolve, and then consistently replicate that for all people who are dying in a controlled environment. Our only option to alleviate suffering is to FIGHT it, cruel though that may sound.
It sounds so dystopian to me...life is meant to be lived...Steven Hawking had such a difficult condition and yet he chose to live and engage with the world no matter how hard it got...our life is precious and is meant to be lived...I lean left on the pol spectrum but this is way too far..sure some people may suffer a lot and it maybe a good option for a very few people...but to glorify it n make it a movement?? I can see a slippery slope in the making which is so scary ...given how impressionable our younger generation is today...
Look into Huntington’s disease then come back to this statement
I understand and totally support the idea. But how many of health care professionals are willing to do the procedure? Is it easy to find a doctor who is doing this type of thing? Is it ok for physician to take people's life away just because they studied the medicine? Again, I do understand and support the idea of medical assisted suicide. But I just think that it's too much to ask someone else to end your life because that someone else is also just a human. Personally, I want to live with dignity. I know people should have different point of views but committing suicide is not what I call "dignity."
We'll see how you feel about that if you are ever diagnosed with a terminal illness.