There are a few inaccuracies, primarily in the equipment loadout. 1. No soldier in their right mind would only take one canteen into the desert. It was always two, and if you carried an E-Tool it was in-between both canteens on the back of the belt. - 2. You are missing an M9 bayonet. A grand majority of soldiers would wear them on the left hip, behind the magazine pouch and in front of the canteen. - 3. You would obviously need an M17A2 gasmask in the bag. You have the bag so just filling it with socks or some other kind of fabric to make it look full would do the trick. Same with your magazine pouches. Without any depth, they kinda just sit flat on your body. (This isn't an "inaccuracy," per-see, but it is certainly a tip to look more realistic. I do this with my magazine pouches as I don't need to reload my rifle at living history events.) - 4. You need rank badges, unit SSI, an American flag (for certain units) and name-tape. (for name tape, I use a pseudonym so that people who take pictures of me at events don't have my real name). - 5. A PASGT flak vest is a worthy investment if you really want to get that Desert Storm look. Both "chocolate chip" and Woodland M81 versions work because of the low availability of desert equipment during the invasion. - I am the commanding officer of the 7th ID group, portraying Operation Just Cause, and I'm telling you these things because the differences between Woodland soldiers in Panama and soldiers in Desert Storm were pretty minimal, omit the camouflage differences. I know you're primarily a WWII reenactor so this is hopefully going to help you get that polished look.
Great uniform, a lot of memories from my early childhood (which wasnt exactly during the 90s tho but still we could hear its drums play in the early 2000s) oof
I know you probably aren't used to this era, just a reminder the top button stays unbuttoned. You already mentioned the other issues that come for practical reasons. Great content as usual
No, the reflective tabs are cat eyes. The band itself is called a foliage band. It's an important distinction because the older foliage bands (such as in vietnam) didn't have the reflectors.
So my uncle fought in this war and I got all the gear he had which is always cool and my dad was late 90s early 2000s and I got all of his gear and some stories that's really cool. (Dm me on Instagram and I can tell you all the stories and send pictures of the gear)
Nice video man! I have a little information that you might find interesting. Your suspenders and pistol belt seem to be the LC-2 version of the ALICE gear. The LC-1 version being the first pattern, which closely resembled the typical M-1956 gear the US carried in Vietnam. LC-2 is when they mixed it up a bit both construction and color wise. LC-1 suspenders were an OD'ish green, H shape, whereas with LC-2 they decided to move to a darker khaki color, Y shape (I'm not sure why the Y shape, my guess is a better fit with a PASGT vest). Your pistol belt is the LC-2 Quick Release version. I believe all LC-2 belts were of the QR variety and stayed OD green. Reissued Vietnam war gear was super common in Desert Storm. Some guys even had full M-1956 kits still, where quite commonly a few pieces, like the 56/61 buttpacks, canvas first aid pouches, 56 H suspenders, you name it were carried over. Unfortunately I dont know enough about the ammo pouches. They are correct I just don't know the differences between the LC-1 and LC-2 offhand. Looking at my ALICE stuff, I'm just gonna assume they just changed the color. Expect lots of overlap in the colors with the ALICE stuff in general. Super good start man!
Pretty accurate. We also had MOPP gear, test kits, Atropine/2PAM injectors, Alice pack ,or in my case the new combat field pack, and Goggles (I think the box said "goggles, sun, wind, sand" or something like that).
@@gooseman7522 Many troops still bought buttpacks and many units still had them as SOP, other units still issued them since they still had a ton of buttpacks in stock.
Nice outfit dude! I did collect myself a desert storm uniforms and gears before and i hope i can afford a HMMWV in the future and playing Zztop & gun n roses on it. :)
I was there and went converted from forest from Louisiana then to desert as we converted over. Ask me any questions thanks good job! Reflective band are called cat eyes and the shovel is called a trench tool. Hope you decided to go in. 😀
The m17 gas mask actually a normal gas mask and had a hood that would go on the mask for the nbc suit because at the time the nbc suits did not have hoods they just had a collar
Nice kit. Currently working on a op granby kit which is the British name for the operation in first gulf war. It's good to see a increase in interest for the conflict.
Web belt with H-harness. ALICE was the pack. I wore jungle boots in DS so you got that good, no one I know had problems with sand in their jungle boots. What you call a first aid pouch is actually a compass pouch, the first aid kit was a square package that went on the back of your war belt (web belt).
Figured I’d chime in in the canteen bit, it is original to have the metal cup, however it’s a different design, much more common too. Difference being the WWII canteen cups have a different style of handle, with the sliding bar (don’t know the term) whereas the post war ones have two bits of metal that wrap around the cup and unfold and form a handle. Sorry I don’t know proper terms on these, just speaking from items in my collection.
Not a bad start, especially for someone who primarily does WWII. I would recommend removing the e-tool and adding another canteen. I think we've all seen those LC-1 gear diagrams that show an e-tool on the belt. The e-tool was almost always attached to the ALICE rucksack. They were unnecessary to keep on the combat LBE (load bearing equipment (suspenders, belt, mag pouches, bandage pouch, etc.)). Hydration was crucial and stressed highly during Operation Desert Shield/Storm, so the majority of front line soldiers carried two canteens on their belts. At least one should have an NBC (nuclear, biological, and chemical) cap that mates with the the drinking tube on the M17A1 and A2 gas masks. If you plan on keeping the train rolling with this impression, I recommend buying a PASGT vest. The majority, if not, all front line soldiers wore them as they were the most vulnerable to enemy contact and explosions. You shouldn't need any covers for the vest (the vest comes in the M81 Woodland camouflage pattern and covers in 6-color desert camouflage, and later, 3-color desert camouflage were offered) either as most guys opted to not put them on. I know you've heard this from other commenters, but the top button on the DBDU shirt stays undone. There now you've heard it one more time haha. One last thing, you should look into basing it off of a specific unit. At this time, like in almost all other eras, issuing of some pieces of gear, and they way it was worn, often varied by unit. Its one of the best things you can do to make an impression accurate. Otherwise, this is an excellent start. Great job! Welcome to the Gulf War side of the hobby!
@@worldwarguy459 No problem. If you need any help, feel free to ask. I've been doing desert storm for the past 4-5 years or so and its really nice to see other people taking an interest in it.
Just so you know. That was in a time when night vision goggles was not affordable enough to provide to the masses. So staying hidden at night was key. You could see the cat eyes at a short distance with just star light to see friendlies. The shovel was known as an E-Tool and typically wouldn't be worn unless you were in a weird situation where you might need a shitty short shovel. The gas mask carrier can be worn in any of three positions. The position you showed was the most popular as it kept it low and out of the way. The medical pouch was always upside down so the pressure dressing was easier to remove in a hurry. The plastic could also be used to cover a sucking chest wound. The red cover was required as the red light could only be seen for a few hundred feet away while a white light could be seen at around 10 times as far away. Use the red light at night while in pure darkness to do everything in your house for one week and you will learn to appreciate white light. During this period we worked at night with zero light to keep our actions undetected. You should research "black out drive" to learn more. The helmet was made of Kevlar. Overall you did a great job, thank you for producing.
The gas mask is a gas mask not more of a hood. A good was added on top of the gas mask. You can get a gas mask for rather cheap now I got mine for $45.
Awesome impression! But the m17 wasnt just a hood it was a black cheek filter gas mask and the hood you talk of is the chemical hood that would go over the top of it.
Hey pal, by standard army wide you don’t button up that top button. Also I’m surprised you couldn’t find a PASGT vest but you found the K-pot. The band is called cat eyes band, the lamp isn’t exactly 100% correct, they had ones with the guards on the side of the switch. Also brown shirts are standard with woodland and dessert. The system is called LC-2 and the clips are called slide keepers. The E-tool(shovel) doesn’t go on the belt, it goes on the rucksack
Does anyone else kinda see this as disrespectful? “Playing war”. Veterans who are scarred from this conflict are still alive and relatively young. If you want to dress up then join the army. Not hating just kinda curious.
Brett Guerrero many veterans appreciate what reenactors do and don’t see it as disrespectful. When it is done right, it’s a great teaching tool and gives a great insight to what life was like during that time. Much more educational than movies.
Canteens would be on the hips. Nobody carried an etoolon their web gear. Jungle boot holes were for wet conditions to allow water to drain. Think jungle rot.. Flashlight is correct but I never carried it. I had a civilian one that was better. We were issued desert tan boots but I was airborne so we went first and had all the best stuff first. Btw, I have all my TA-50 still as well as a complete Iraqi republican guard kit.. I took it off a dead haji.
There are a few inaccuracies, primarily in the equipment loadout.
1. No soldier in their right mind would only take one canteen into the desert. It was always two, and if you carried an E-Tool it was in-between both canteens on the back of the belt.
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2. You are missing an M9 bayonet. A grand majority of soldiers would wear them on the left hip, behind the magazine pouch and in front of the canteen.
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3. You would obviously need an M17A2 gasmask in the bag. You have the bag so just filling it with socks or some other kind of fabric to make it look full would do the trick. Same with your magazine pouches. Without any depth, they kinda just sit flat on your body. (This isn't an "inaccuracy," per-see, but it is certainly a tip to look more realistic. I do this with my magazine pouches as I don't need to reload my rifle at living history events.)
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4. You need rank badges, unit SSI, an American flag (for certain units) and name-tape. (for name tape, I use a pseudonym so that people who take pictures of me at events don't have my real name).
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5. A PASGT flak vest is a worthy investment if you really want to get that Desert Storm look. Both "chocolate chip" and Woodland M81 versions work because of the low availability of desert equipment during the invasion.
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I am the commanding officer of the 7th ID group, portraying Operation Just Cause, and I'm telling you these things because the differences between Woodland soldiers in Panama and soldiers in Desert Storm were pretty minimal, omit the camouflage differences. I know you're primarily a WWII reenactor so this is hopefully going to help you get that polished look.
Der History Meister thanks! This will help a lot to improve on it
World War Guy You’re welcome.
Didn't know there were groups that did opperation just cause, thats really awesome good on you guys!
Great uniform, a lot of memories from my early childhood (which wasnt exactly during the 90s tho but still we could hear its drums play in the early 2000s) oof
I know you probably aren't used to this era, just a reminder the top button stays unbuttoned. You already mentioned the other issues that come for practical reasons. Great content as usual
loli protection agency thank you for the help
@@worldwarguy459 use water for helmet cover it makes it shrink
i love the impressions and very cool and the band is called Cat Eyes
Heer Reenacting thank you!
No, the reflective tabs are cat eyes. The band itself is called a foliage band. It's an important distinction because the older foliage bands (such as in vietnam) didn't have the reflectors.
@@huntclanhunt9697 Yea but i didnt feel like typing alot so i just call them cat eyes
I love your “spittlermuster” WW2 camo profile pic
@@BUBBA808 thanks
My uncle was an M-1 Abrams Mechanic during desert storm. The thing he remembers most were the M&Ms in the horrible tasting MREs
The homeless cannoli Swanson very cool
The ham patties taste like spam patties dipped in salt lol
So my uncle fought in this war and I got all the gear he had which is always cool and my dad was late 90s early 2000s and I got all of his gear and some stories that's really cool.
(Dm me on Instagram and I can tell you all the stories and send pictures of the gear)
great video, dont forget the desert night parka and trousers
victor reznov if only they were easier to find lol
Nice video man! I have a little information that you might find interesting. Your suspenders and pistol belt seem to be the LC-2 version of the ALICE gear. The LC-1 version being the first pattern, which closely resembled the typical M-1956 gear the US carried in Vietnam. LC-2 is when they mixed it up a bit both construction and color wise. LC-1 suspenders were an OD'ish green, H shape, whereas with LC-2 they decided to move to a darker khaki color, Y shape (I'm not sure why the Y shape, my guess is a better fit with a PASGT vest). Your pistol belt is the LC-2 Quick Release version. I believe all LC-2 belts were of the QR variety and stayed OD green. Reissued Vietnam war gear was super common in Desert Storm. Some guys even had full M-1956 kits still, where quite commonly a few pieces, like the 56/61 buttpacks, canvas first aid pouches, 56 H suspenders, you name it were carried over. Unfortunately I dont know enough about the ammo pouches. They are correct I just don't know the differences between the LC-1 and LC-2 offhand. Looking at my ALICE stuff, I'm just gonna assume they just changed the color. Expect lots of overlap in the colors with the ALICE stuff in general. Super good start man!
succulentjacob awesome, thanks for the info!
Pretty accurate. We also had MOPP gear, test kits, Atropine/2PAM injectors, Alice pack ,or in my case the new combat field pack, and Goggles (I think the box said "goggles, sun, wind, sand" or something like that).
John Puplic Thank for the info
That flashlight is a Vietnam era one. You can tell because it doesn’t have the plastic guard on the sides of the switch like the later ones.
Nimitz 17 thank you for the info
you need buttpack, alice pack, bayonet, first aid kit, and a pasgt flak
There was never a buttpack issued for Alice systems because with a rucksack you had no need for a buttpack
Scoobydoo FruitSnacks my dads whole u it was required to wear buttpack a also there were buttpacks for alice
Scoobydoo FruitSnacks look up photos almost everyone has a buttpack
@@gooseman7522 The M1956 buttpack was used with ALICE equipment from the Vietnam war up until Desert Storm, when it was replaced with a nylon version.
@@gooseman7522 Many troops still bought buttpacks and many units still had them as SOP, other units still issued them since they still had a ton of buttpacks in stock.
Nice outfit dude! I did collect myself a desert storm uniforms and gears before and i hope i can afford a HMMWV in the future and playing Zztop & gun n roses on it. :)
I was there and went converted from forest from Louisiana then to desert as we converted over. Ask me any questions thanks good job! Reflective band are called cat eyes and the shovel is called a trench tool. Hope you decided to go in. 😀
Aren’t the strings at the bottom of the pants for blousing your boots?
The m17 gas mask actually a normal gas mask and had a hood that would go on the mask for the nbc suit because at the time the nbc suits did not have hoods they just had a collar
We never buttoned that top button and I don’t recall anyone ever wearing an E-tool on their LBE. Otherwise very well done Sir!
Agreed, we had a second canteen, but this guy does a good job.
I like the content keep up the good work your videos actually help me once in a while when I’m doing my German ww2 impression
Mask Tv thanks! I’m glad I could help!
Nice kit. Currently working on a op granby kit which is the British name for the operation in first gulf war. It's good to see a increase in interest for the conflict.
Harry B yeah, very interesting conflict
Awesome video! Gulf War is very underdone
indeed
Thank you! I tried to do justice to it
Web belt with H-harness. ALICE was the pack. I wore jungle boots in DS so you got that good, no one I know had problems with sand in their jungle boots. What you call a first aid pouch is actually a compass pouch, the first aid kit was a square package that went on the back of your war belt (web belt).
Are you still continuing this impression?
Figured I’d chime in in the canteen bit, it is original to have the metal cup, however it’s a different design, much more common too. Difference being the WWII canteen cups have a different style of handle, with the sliding bar (don’t know the term) whereas the post war ones have two bits of metal that wrap around the cup and unfold and form a handle. Sorry I don’t know proper terms on these, just speaking from items in my collection.
The modern ones have 'butterfly' handles.
Awesome, thanks for the help
You should do Vietnam impression
Not a bad start, especially for someone who primarily does WWII. I would recommend removing the e-tool and adding another canteen. I think we've all seen those LC-1 gear diagrams that show an e-tool on the belt. The e-tool was almost always attached to the ALICE rucksack. They were unnecessary to keep on the combat LBE (load bearing equipment (suspenders, belt, mag pouches, bandage pouch, etc.)). Hydration was crucial and stressed highly during Operation Desert Shield/Storm, so the majority of front line soldiers carried two canteens on their belts. At least one should have an NBC (nuclear, biological, and chemical) cap that mates with the the drinking tube on the M17A1 and A2 gas masks. If you plan on keeping the train rolling with this impression, I recommend buying a PASGT vest. The majority, if not, all front line soldiers wore them as they were the most vulnerable to enemy contact and explosions. You shouldn't need any covers for the vest (the vest comes in the M81 Woodland camouflage pattern and covers in 6-color desert camouflage, and later, 3-color desert camouflage were offered) either as most guys opted to not put them on. I know you've heard this from other commenters, but the top button on the DBDU shirt stays undone. There now you've heard it one more time haha. One last thing, you should look into basing it off of a specific unit. At this time, like in almost all other eras, issuing of some pieces of gear, and they way it was worn, often varied by unit. Its one of the best things you can do to make an impression accurate. Otherwise, this is an excellent start. Great job! Welcome to the Gulf War side of the hobby!
Thank you for the help!
@@worldwarguy459 No problem. If you need any help, feel free to ask. I've been doing desert storm for the past 4-5 years or so and its really nice to see other people taking an interest in it.
Great video 👍 besides what other people have already put in the comments, I’d get some SWD goggles for your helmet.
Brewskiii MD thank you
due to little fighting it wasn’t uncommon for guys to not wear their armor.
wow that shirt is in good condition for being original, my original blouse is hella faded
we gotta compare kits sometime
Just so you know. That was in a time when night vision goggles was not affordable enough to provide to the masses. So staying hidden at night was key. You could see the cat eyes at a short distance with just star light to see friendlies. The shovel was known as an E-Tool and typically wouldn't be worn unless you were in a weird situation where you might need a shitty short shovel. The gas mask carrier can be worn in any of three positions. The position you showed was the most popular as it kept it low and out of the way. The medical pouch was always upside down so the pressure dressing was easier to remove in a hurry. The plastic could also be used to cover a sucking chest wound. The red cover was required as the red light could only be seen for a few hundred feet away while a white light could be seen at around 10 times as far away. Use the red light at night while in pure darkness to do everything in your house for one week and you will learn to appreciate white light. During this period we worked at night with zero light to keep our actions undetected. You should research "black out drive" to learn more. The helmet was made of Kevlar. Overall you did a great job, thank you for producing.
The gas mask is a gas mask not more of a hood. A good was added on top of the gas mask. You can get a gas mask for rather cheap now I got mine for $45.
Awesome impression! But the m17 wasnt just a hood it was a black cheek filter gas mask and the hood you talk of is the chemical hood that would go over the top of it.
Casual Communist true, never held one, so I wasn’t too sure how it worked. Thanks!
Top button?
The band is cat eyes
Hey pal, by standard army wide you don’t button up that top button. Also I’m surprised you couldn’t find a PASGT vest but you found the K-pot. The band is called cat eyes band, the lamp isn’t exactly 100% correct, they had ones with the guards on the side of the switch. Also brown shirts are standard with woodland and dessert. The system is called LC-2 and the clips are called slide keepers. The E-tool(shovel) doesn’t go on the belt, it goes on the rucksack
A little help for you : Cut some wood and put it in the Ammopouches.
Dope
Trippy Kid thank you
World War Guy your welcome
Please put some magazines in the pouches. If you don’t have any cardboard or wood blocks are fine
Button down the shirt one notch lol 😂👌
Wyatt Calhoon correct, I didn’t have a brown shirt which is why I had it buttoned up.
@@worldwarguy459 ok
Not bad.
john thomas thanks
Does anyone else kinda see this as disrespectful? “Playing war”. Veterans who are scarred from this conflict are still alive and relatively young. If you want to dress up then join the army. Not hating just kinda curious.
Brett Guerrero many veterans appreciate what reenactors do and don’t see it as disrespectful. When it is done right, it’s a great teaching tool and gives a great insight to what life was like during that time. Much more educational than movies.
My dad is a gulf vet and he helps me put together impressions (marines), and ima get videos up soon too
So yeah not all vets get offended and stuff
You don’t button the top botton
Canteens would be on the hips. Nobody carried an etoolon their web gear.
Jungle boot holes were for wet conditions to allow water to drain. Think jungle rot..
Flashlight is correct but I never carried it. I had a civilian one that was better.
We were issued desert tan boots but I was airborne so we went first and had all the best stuff first.
Btw, I have all my TA-50 still as well as a complete Iraqi republican guard kit.. I took it off a dead haji.