Kingdom Hearts NEW Graphics Update Comparison - Old vs New Version
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 มิ.ย. 2024
- The new Kingdom Hearts update for the PC versions on both Epic Games Store & Steam has arrived and with it, Enhanced Textures! How much does this improve upon KH's graphics? Let's see!
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The Radiant Gardens restoration committee has been working hard to restore all the of KH graphics to 4k.
Since 2005😂
Some of the textures look better but others seem to sand down some of the roughness that was clearly meant to be there, I'm not sure how I feel about it.
Same
Yeah same
lines have been sharpened and everything has been smothed out. looks like shit
Apparently one of the most popular mods involves putting Aqua in a bunny suit.
Edit: OurTube won’t let me post the link.
Why am I not surprised?
It’s the Honey Bee one from FF7R right?
Nice
wheres the link?
...Link?
I feel like this will help Birth By Sleep more than KH1 and 2. They were more stylized, with a chosen look. Where as BBS had a ton of low res textures becuase it was originally on a handheld console, and then when it was brought to console it was just given a resolution bump, but never corrected some of the frankly shitty looking textures. This will hopefully correct them there.
That was my main thought when this was announced. I always noticed the low textures on the walls and floors and stuff. Especially when they have designs on them.
I dodn't even think about that. Many things in Birth By Sleep definitely would look a lot better with this
Has anybody checked to see if games besides 1 and 2 were updated?
@@BlakeLyle People on the Steam Discussions were saying they didn't touch Re:CoM or Birth By Sleep at all, but not sure how true it is.
It’s for all of the Non Unreal Engine games. So all of them except for 2.8 and 3… however they claim that Dream Drop did not receive it, but I’ve seen a few comparison videos of people showing clear as day that they were changed. So it’s obviously a miscommunication with whoever is doing the writing for the Steam page.
Personally, I feel like a lot of the textures actually lose their "texture" if that makes sense. Like for example, a lot of the stone textures don't really seem rough or bumpy anymore. But instead, a lot of things seem super smoothed out.
Yeah that's...kinda the point lmao
Sorry just woke up and read that wrong, yeah idk maybe a bug cuz the actual model itself shouldn't be tanpered with I think
I agree, like it loses some character when it loses its smudgy-ness
if nobody told you this was AI you'd say they did a good job. This isnt GTA trilogy level AI, this is good/controlled AI use
I kind of agree. In most of the shots shown, It's a clear improvement. However in a few instances, mostly large concrete structures, some of the more subtle detail is removed by smoothing out the texture and the material loses some of it's...texture. I'm not really sure how it's supposed to be upscaled to retain that because of how blurry it is and how it's unclear exactly what that detail is supposed to look like but yeah. It kind of is what it is. Without the comparison though I doubt anyone will notice.
They just threw everything into the AI and called it a day. Some of these textures and especially the world map destination images look a lot worse.
I think the fan upscale project mod done for the Epic Games version looked better than this. Hopefully epic games mods can be used for the steam version
But overall better
Hoping the steam releases will encourage more mods to be made or made more quickly. The randomizer is one of my favorites and would love to play the Nobody may cry mod
Probably be easier to test them too.
The Nobody May Cry mod is only being developed for emulators
@@StealthTheFoxz no, probably not
I'm new to PC, I don't know how to add mods to game files is there a tool I can download to make it easier
Project nmc is only for emulator. It's easy to find out how to emulate kh2
I work on 3D models right. You can tell the AI (which im okay with for higher resolution, since i use it myself) hasnt been touched afterwards. AI does not mean its going to always look great. Examples, the bricks dont have much depth, the stars look wonky and the crown in AnW couldve been fixed to look straight. You have to go back a touch things up yourself. Its just lazy man
I personally don't like the ai upscaled textures. I hope there's an option to not have enhanced textures
Nope, in fact the settings haven't been changed a bit, which is especially bad, because the update also added DX11 support and you can't toggle that either.
@@d4rksonic474 DX11 was always there and used for cutscenes
@@217awsome Then I have no idea what could possibly be the issue for RX 7000 GPUs being unable to run this crap properly.
Thats weird.
Better is better
@@d4rksonic474 Wait, you telling me folks with those card aren't able to play the game anymore? Welp. I guess it should be avoided in the meantime.
the AI textures lose too much detail on certain areas and aren't consistent.
I absolutely see a reason for people to make a mod that reverts the change.
It's good enough
I think whatever AI model they used was way too strong with noise reduction. Just like you pointed out with world images many of the new textures look too smooth and worse now.
I don't mind the use of AI for such tasks, but the finished work does need to be properly assessed.
Not just to make sure that it's came out as intended, but also whether the intended result is even an improvement!
Like the shot in KH2, in hollow bastion(?), the upscaling on the floor textures, in my opinion, took away from the feel.
The floor was just too smooth, it made more sense for it to have that somewhat rough look to it.
Unfortunately, until developers catch on that what AI (at least currently) is able to produce, still need to be checked by part of the creative development team, there's going to be these elements which detract from the style
Square Enix knew how to do that with the use of AI upscaling for SaGa Frontier HD and Legend of Mana HD. AI Upscaling but with substantial manual touches and fixes so the final image comes out well. They are literally regressing on that aspect. It screams of just giving the job to some third-party studio without any actual Square employee taking a substantial look at the result
Can't wait till we get modded game modes like Nobody May Cry and more in the near future for steam.
amen, it will be incredible
So about that... the creator of Nobody May Cry has stated that he will only start working on a PC port of the mod (if at all) is when he finishes the ps2 emulator version. Amd the latest playable version was 0.20...
@@Saxjonthe emulator version needs a super computer. My pcsx2 version of kh2 went from a smooth 60 fps to 2 fps because of the mod. I was so devastated I couldnt play it seems like it’s probably not gonna end up on pc port i just kinda feel like its not
Took the words out of my mouth
@@ItsjustBlackJackhere it really doesn't. I played it just fine on an AMD RX580 GPU (equivalent to GTX 1050ti) and a radeon 4600 CPU. ON LINUX, BTW.
"Microblading" for dewys eyebrows sent me lol. Good shit man
I'm a little mixed as I think some of this instances look a fair amount worse despite being more clear, but I'm willing to take it of it means I finally get Kingdom Hearts on the go the way I've always wished.
Some of them look like their gainy texture, which I think added to the look, got smoothed away, but generally it looks good; especially at normal distance it's just going to look sharper. But at least in these close ups sometimes you can REALLY tell it was AI upscaled. I've gotten a pretty good upscaling model that I love to use on images and I'd be curious if it'd fair better, which is why I hope the original textures can be preserved, so that better models can further update them later.
Lost a lot of the detail that was in the grain. The stone universally feels flatter and smoother for instance.
4:13 Dewey's face says it all 😑
This means that Soras "robot eyes" will look less blurry. 🔥
Better than KH3 3D robot eyes.
**Your face is a robot eyes** >:3
There needs to be a depth buffer so we can use post processing effects with RESHADE
Sorry, but I dont want 30gb of space taken for textures, that is awful.
1:40 this is a joke right, how does this stuff make 30+gb? i'm creating higher quality textures that take less space. This is just some lazy ai upscaling without any real human looking over it and optimizing it, shame.
Most likely its so big because they didnt compress anything or im wrong idk
Once installed it takes about 71.87gb in total which of I remember right before it was about 63gb so it takes 10ish extra gb the reason the update is so large is because it’s downloading every texture again and then replaces them and removes the old ones.
I'd like to just choose the old textures. You don't see the difference in motions, and these are nothing I would stop for and look at, like I do in Wayfinder. In Wayfinder I have more time in looking at the environment and textures, than playing the actual game.
This takes 0% effort and a 100% mark up.
Like bruh we are already giving your our money out of pure loyalty...dont treat us like we're stupid...
But still thanks for scrubbing through your textures and running the files through an AI scaling program. ☺️
fuck, did they give this to James Cameron to up-res? all the detail gone - SMOOTH SMOOTH SMOOTH - absolutely, yes, the wood and the stone on this building should look like the same material
I wouldn't call it detail as much as it is just, noise.
Can't wait for steams texture mods with normal maps and bump maps and stuff man
OK but sometimes the AI upscale kinda looks... worse? It removes some texture a bit aggressively. Like the concrete in Radiant Gardens looks TOO flat now.
The floor losing it's texture in mysterious tower bothers me for some reason lol
is this texture update exclusive to PC or coming to console as well? I'm still PS4/PS5 but plan to get PC copies for modding
I am that type of guy that zooms in on every texture on any game I played. As soon as I booted the game, without zooming out, my fucking jaw dropped on how sharper everything looked. I love this. Bro aladdin looks so fucking sharp fr
I think having AI do work like this that can be super tedious is a good thing because it means those resources would only have to check the work which is way shorter than having to do it themselves allowing for faster finishes and gets rid of boring and redundant work and can push people into doing more important things faster. It doesnt look bad so I think its fine
3:28 it’s actually kind of interesting, that brown leaf that has the improved texture actually has only part of the leaf getting the improved texture, the rest of the leaf getting just a original texture
that top part of the leaves actually ARE upscaled, if you look closely you can tell. what actually happened is that the AI interpreted the original texture as just being blurry or transparent instead of being able to use context to determine it should look the same as the other leaves. one of the many limitations of unedited AI use for things like this
Are these updated textures only on the steam version or did the console releases also get them?
I can see why some would like the older stuff better, but I've always been a fan of sharp and clean lines
Have the egs version for 1.5 and 2.5 have japanese audion now?
It is interesting that the game files on Steam are identical to Epic Store version (sans some folder name changes), so either they updated the Epic store version (doubtful; it still has the old launcher that's slightly different to steam version), or they decided against shipping the ai slop at the last minute
I don’t mind the AI upscaled textures being done for a majority of cases (like NPCs, buildings, etc.) but a lot of cases, especially with text, they need to redraw those textures to be properly upscaled; like on 2:00 for the food menu or maybe even the Mailbox for KH1. Because it just looks wrong on so many levels if you pay attention to it for more than 5 seconds. Pretty sure that if they were to use AI in the future, a proper way to use it would be to use it as a first step before going in to redraw the textures; so they can retain the look & feel of the original without the awkwardness of blurry text or smoothed textures for buildings.
Also, just as a personal gripe, I hope they’ll bring in the upgraded textures to the Console versions of the games as well, maybe even a PS5 update to have 0.2 & 3 run 4k60 to match the other games.
I'd be curious to see which is better, the new upscale textures or a texture mod.
Will the KH3 Multiplayer Mod and other Mods that previously worked with
the EGS version of KH3 and other mods for KH3 from NM work with the Steam
version of KH3 and on Steam Deck as well too ?
8:11 Would’ve been better if he said he was buying it for the 179th time, iykyk
Anyone getting major audio crackles in KH1? Its literally unplayable for me right now, the crackling is constant and as loud as everything else
I was playing the game last night and I am on the rupunzel stage and I thought it looked different…especially the wooded area…it looked like a movie kind of
Oh boy cant wait for tiulink to make new 4k textures mod with hud elements etc😁
looks cooked, merlin’s house is rough
Any way of getting hdr on kh3 ?
Hopefully now that the steam release is here in like 2 hours. Maybe we'll get a Missing link release date soon 💀
That Duey IS cursed, man.. Duey but he's the IMPOSSIBRU meme
We need a GamersJoint AI upscaled version of him.
How do they compare to the HD Textures mods?
What engine did first two games ran at
1:59 i never knew that was a menu😮! Can actually read it now.
You just have bad eyes. It was blurry but always readable.
What are the EGS versions? I'm assuming PS4/PS5?
Its unfortunate that most textures actually seem to have lost a lot of detwil, even though they may be technically higher resolution now. The upscaling just smooths over any fine pixel detail that was there in a lot of the old textures.
It looks and runs so great on the deck! This is what we’ve all wanted. And even my soon to be 2 year old daughter began to dance for joy when she heard simple and clean for the first time. She too shall become a keyboard wielder
Basically playing kingdom hearts on steam will be like putting on new glasses but only realizing it when you go back to your old pair
Shadows seem to change drastically between old and new
Personally I feel like background details *should* have a level of roughness and blurriness to them. It helps them blend together into "background noise" instead of popping off, drawing your attention from things that actually should have attention.
I mean, just think about normal human eyesight. The thing you're looking at is sharp, but stuff further away or in your peripheral vision kinda fall out of your focus, becoming "Background noise"
ive mostly been playing ddd, for the most part everything does jsut feel a bit crisped. I think given some time no ones going to notice (outside of those kh2 world icons those are pretty chewed up), but this is no persona 3 portable situation.
but i wouldnt be shocked if everyone goes out and gets a mod to put it back. or even jsut the world icons, that'd be kinda funny.
They really should fix the mouth animation in non-cinematic cutscenes
I don’t mind most of these, but there are some weird changes. I don’t like how the leaves look with the clearer lines (disregarding how some didn’t get upscaled). The rest is fine and I don’t mind them
Looks clean! But I would love to see some actual modded graphics down the line! xD
I heard the PS3 collections have better texture quality than the PS4 versions. So perhaps they’re finally using the old textures they had, maybe used ai on those in particular.
I play refixed and with the HD texture pack off of Nexus mods so this ain't much but it's cool that the best game ever is getting some more love
I hope there's options
Some of the textures lose their rough appearnce, but I honestly don't mind that seeing how crisp many of the changes make other textures.
honestly i was rlly worried abt squenix using AI but if the thing they use it for is stuff like this and lip-sync is good, i dont want it affecting job badly
Ai is not taking over anyone’s jobs…… yet 😂
I don't think they would ever have done this if not for AI. A human would have to re-paint everything from scratch and its just easier to remake the game at that point.
How do the new Steam versions fair performance wise, as in FPS etc?
Reminder that ths type of AI is not the same as generative AI, which is the one used for malicious goals
Is it true? Is Epic Games versions updated too? They doesn't mention it on their own product pages, 'till now.
you should do a comparison between the new version and the mod that enhances the graphics.
I am a little mixed on how I feel about this. Some looks alright or even pretty good. But some just seemed unneeded. Like I’m not too hung up on it since while playing the game I doubt I’ll notice it much. But at the same time I do like that old feel the games have.
honestly I'm more surprised there's no mod to give kh1 the textures/ models from later games.
The real question is: did they get rid of the "online" requirement and fix the crashes?
are you going to do DDD and BBS?
Can't say I'm a fan, I like old game textures specifically because you can see where a person has drawn them by hand, you can see all the little pieces coming together to form their vision. In modern games though, there's just so many pieces that they blur together, like you're not meant to appreciate the details anymore, just glaze over the big picture and move on.
Yikes, a lot of these textures look bad. I hope we end up with options to revert or fix the textures, especially because they didn't actually update all the textures.
they look oddly smooth and u can tell it looks ai
@@littlea420 Some of the textures just don't keep line thickness right or increase contrast or add unnecessary details. Like, those leaves in Wonderland and the crystals at the item shop look really bad. Like, bro, why are they outlining highlights?
if you already have them on epic store, is it worth the price?
How much is the price?
of the things that ai does wrong i'm fine with ai upscaling cause i don't think it's reasonable to force the artists to redraw every texture for a 20+ year old game which would cause crunch which i some what applaud them for.
I just wonder if the crashing has stoped and is more stable
The bundle for all games seems really juicy rn. I don't care for KH3 as it doesn't have FF characters but seems like it's literally cheaper to buy all 3 collections in a bundle than the first 2 collections separately. I've never played KH games and I'm only interested due to FF ties. Should I get the whole thing?
Kh3 is worth it just for the dlc alone
Short answer: yes.
Long answer: they are great games in their own right, and unlike FF it's one story. Skipping KH3 would be like skipping CD3 on FF7. You'll want to know what happens with the characters.
Logical answer: if you're already getting what you want for cheaper, why would also getting extra stuff on top be a bad thing?
anyone else having issues with the esg version after the update?
QUICK QUESTION. Is the steam port of KH playable with a switch pro controller?
Every Steam Game ist playable with every controller, since it just emulates a supported controller if yours is not. So yes, it is playable with a switch pro controller. You might have XBOX Button layouts tho.
@@KeinName0408 either way 👀
I haven’t played any of the KH series games in so long so I likely won’t notice.
you can map any controller yes
KH2 in particular always had a very painted look so for me the smoother look works much better.
I think it meant to say same graphics but textures improved
Any plans to play the new Life is Strange game called Double exposure? It comes out in October.
I'm pretty sure the lines above Dewey's eyes are the contours just above his brow ridge. Look at the picture of Donald Duck on khwiki for reference: Both of his brows stick out in front of the belt on his hat. I'm just about certain the artist was using these lines to give it some depth for a low polygon model and not to give him eyebrow hair. The AI using such a dark color markedly worsens the design here IMO.
hi TheGamersJoint
Playing kh2 final mix on steamdeck. I like the new textures. In portable mode, it really feels like the game wasnt made on ps2 at all. I personally like the changes.
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hey while we're on the topic of AI and square enix games, have you seen the fan projects to this kind of stuff with games like FF9?
Are these updates coming to ps5 & xbox x[s ?
How’s it on Steam deck?
This may be the 300th time we're buying these games, but at least it can finally be the last time. So glad I decided to build a PC instead of getting a ps5..
Kh2 looks beautiful! I’m so excited to see how great bbs looks. What an underrated game man.
Soooooo....now that the older Kh games are on steam, now would be a good time for some mods and revamps (looking at Kh 358/2days and recoded👀)
I personally are not fussed on the HD remakes mainly because most of the heartless colour changes make them look cheap or something a kid would colour which takes away from the art style if you get what I mean. Plus some of the texture have lost their character which is sad really but not everything is bad some things needed it but others should have been left alone.
Now I have to spring for a $2000 gaming rig so I can download the Steam version of KH2 randomizer. 6_^
I never played KH, but I'm interested in this game, should I pick this game up?
Bro mascara is used on the eyelashes not the eyebrow 😭😭
Ai restoration feels lazy to me, I know it takes a lot of time to process then inspect and maybe correct. But AI doesnt know what the design team had in mind all they way back then. And there was nothing wrong with the old graphics overall. Anyways, I just hope the game is fun and performs well.