Great info that anyone who is interested in solar power should have already researched. The one new thing that I found will be helpful is holding an object to the solar panel to properly align them with the sun. Thanks, and keep up the good work.
I was able to get the max 220W from the bi-facial panel almost immediately after I tested in direct sunlight. I even did not spend much time to set up the correct angle. The weather offered some broken clouds. When clouds covered the sun the panel was getting between 70 and 90W. When clouds cleared it immediately hit the 220W. Backside was grass covered and I only used the white soft cushion panel that comes with the solar panels bag. I was able to test for only two days but so far I am satisfied with the results.
Genuinely interested why my 425W Sunpower Maxeon 3 panel can give over 425W when other manufacturers such as yourselves often do not hit their stated numbers. Is it due to Sunpower using a more realistic number rather than the more standardised test number?
I'm sure the Sunpower panel is more than 6-10% bigger than competing 400-425 watt panels. Other factors include the coating/layers. Most of the EF panels are IP68, slightly reducing efficiency. If the sunpower has less protective layers, it'll have an easier time reaching the max output. EF is also using a standardized test which may be different than other manufacturers. Seeing a few panel reviews, I will assume the sunpower is probably less durable/water resistant and not proportionately larger compared to other similar panels. If you compared the sqft of the higher quality panels, you would see that they are usually 10-15% smaller or more, which is not equal to the 6% increase in wattage.
You should explain that based on environmental conditions and geographic location, it may not be possible to get 100% rated power from any solar panel. Humidity, haze, high altitude cloud cover, smoke, all diminish the potential power output of a panel. Northern latitudes may never see 1000w/m2 even with ideal conditions and a perfect panel setup.
My Ecoflow 400W folding panel is crazy efficient with my Delta Pro’s, I’ve had it at 364W laying flat on the patio roof, it’s better than my Renogy’s and they’re bloody good too. Neither have ever been cleaned by anything other than the weather but that does a good job here in the UK.
I just bought the Delta max 2 with 2 bifacial portable panels. Iam beginning my journey to solar energy. My question can i leave my 220 portable panels out in garden at night or it cause damage over time if i do this all the time? Thanks for your answer
I live in Ecuador and I want to import an ecoflow power station and buy the solar panel here locally. I wonder if the connection between a power station and a solar panel is universal and if iI will be able to find the accesorioes/connectors in my local hardware store or if the Ecoflow power station will only work with Ecoflow solar panels? Thank you
Also if it's pinned at 110 ish, check to see if you have the correct side facing the sun. Easy mistake to make with this panel even with that notice printed on it.
if a fully charged delta 2 hooked up with solar panels and i hooked up a load, does it will take the power from the panels directly or it will use the battery then it will be recharged🤔
@ecoflow can you make a video about your portable\ automated solar tracking system and if the previous problems has been fixed or is a next generation version is in the pipelines ?
What could cause my Ecoflow 400 W panel to only generate 270 W under the following conditions: 1800 m above sea level, clear blue sky, end of July, 17 degrees Celsius, vertically oriented towards sun, shortly before noon? I used to get 400+ W output and fear there may be some sort of damage to the panel. Thanks!
Hi, could you provide me with the serial number of your panels? Also, here is test you can try on your panels. You can try cover some parts of the panel to see if the solar input change. If no changes happen, it suggests that the covered part might have a problem. Let me know if this helps.
Eco flow solar panels definitely get the most solar input . However I do find them very ridgid to unfold and the set up process using the storage bag is terrible.
I found the same thing with the 220 panels, what i did after taking it out of the bag is use a small duffle type bag strap hook it to the 2 centre holes and it made it so much easier to move around then attach to the EcoFlow bag/stand....works for me and im 69 years young.
@@EcoFlowTech ~ I understand "recommended" A/C input, however, does your response confirm a modified sine wave inverter will not work to recharge a Delta 2?
Hi sorry for late reply! Theoretically and practically, modified sine wave can be used for AC charging. However, the AC power used to charge our battery is "not clean" which will affect our battery and the circuits. Therefore, it is not recommended to use modified sine wave inverter.
You didn't say anything the average person doesn't already know. Aim the panel at 90 degrees to the sun. Keep moving it during the day. Whoopee. How about if you put out a video concerning heat degradation when the temperature is 100 degrees and the panel heats up to 130 plus degrees or more and reduces the panel's output to less than 50% of its rated power. How about some truthful advertising informing customers that part of the rating system is based upon ambient temperatures of 75 degrees or below.
What about temperature issues I went camping and the outside temp was 106*F the units are rated at 116*F and I could get my ecoflow river pro solar generator to charge with my 160watt ecoflow solar panels . I had a 12v fridge connected to the system for the weekend and it ruined the trip.
@@EcoFlowTech The weekend of July 22 I was on a camping trip in Northern California temperature was 106*F high that weekend . I have a EcoFlow River and EcoFlow solar panels 160watt connected powering a Dometic 12v fridge with all our food for the trip 3 days , 2 nights. At 3pm every day the unit had 0watts coming into it until 7pm. I tried everything to get it charging again with no success until the evening and next day. Both the solar generator & panels are new , specs in your webpage state that they are rated at 117*F so I’m not sure why the units were going down.
Hi! Sorry for my late reply, below are my suggestions: 1. Upgrade the firmware. You can try to set on solar charging at your EcoFlow app--setting--DC mode. 2. Try car charging your River. If car charging can work, it means the issue lies on the solar panel. If car charging fails, there might be something wrong with the River, you can reach out to our after-sales team for support. Here is the email👉support@ecoflow.com
I just purchased the Allpowers 200 watt solar panels. To my dismay, they only put out 109 watts! On a perfect sunnywith the pannels adjusted correctly. I was able to return them. However, I have not received my credit yet. Very disappointed in these manufactures.
I think most folks who buy solar panels figure out pretty quickly that you NEVER get the rated output from a panel. What I would like to see is truth in advertising. Instead of only listing the laboratory results, put a 2nd number on the panel, showing either the "typical" output, or a percentage of the rated capacity one should realistically expect. Will manufacturers do this? No, they'll continue to use the misleading system they currently have in place, in large part because of panel degradation over time. They don't want to be held accountable for delivering the rated capacity, or anything close to it.
I got your feeling. And that is also why we make this video to offer some advice on making the most of your panels. The "typical" output can be tricky to define given that our global users face varied situations. But still thank you for your suggestions.
Same here. 1.5 hrs on phone hold and 4 times on chat hold for over half hour each only to be disconnected each time I was next in line to be helped. I get 40 watts charge on a 220 watt brand new solar panel. Only had the panel and a Delta 2 for a little over a week and feel as though I’ve been taken. Terrible customer service!!!
@EcoFlow Please may I win a Beautiful EcoFlow Portable Power Generator, my Wife and I are going to be purchasing a piece of land to build our OFF-grid Home and we are going to be also starting an You Tube Tube Channel to bring everyone on our Journey during the whole process and need a way to charge our battery powered tools and we have to find a 12Volt refrigerator to keep our items cold and my medication too... Thank you EcoFlow!!! As we are subscribed and liked#25!!!
What could cause my Ecoflow 400 W panel to only generate 270 W under the following conditions: 1800 m above sea level, clear blue sky, end of July, 17 degrees Celsius, vertically oriented towards sun, shortly before noon? I used to get 400+ W output and fear there may be some sort of damage to the panel. Thanks!
Hi, could you provide me with the serial number of your panels? Also, here is test you can try on your panels. You can try cover some parts of the panel to see if the solar input changes. If no changes happen, it suggests that the covered part might have a problem. Let me know if this helps.
My brand new 220 bifacial panel only puts out about 40 watts in full daylight in Florida. I’ve call customer service only to be on hold for 1.5 hours and went in to chat support on 4 different occasions waiting for over 1/2 hour each time only to get bumped off each time I became next in line to be assisted. I am ready to pack the whole bunch up and send it back. WhT good is any product without useable customer service!
@@EcoFlowTech I have performed the test as you suggested: Independently of which of the four panels is covered, the output drops by approximately 25%. I have also verified whether my 3rd party extension cords could be the issue - not the case either. S/N is DAEBZ5ZD9100651. Thanks for your support! PS: Location at the time of testing was Switzerland. Same results today, 1600 m above sea level, 23 degrees Celsius, 11:30AM, clear blue sky.
Great info that anyone who is interested in solar power should have already researched. The one new thing that I found will be helpful is holding an object to the solar panel to properly align them with the sun. Thanks, and keep up the good work.
I was able to get the max 220W from the bi-facial panel almost immediately after I tested in direct sunlight. I even did not spend much time to set up the correct angle. The weather offered some broken clouds. When clouds covered the sun the panel was getting between 70 and 90W. When clouds cleared it immediately hit the 220W. Backside was grass covered and I only used the white soft cushion panel that comes with the solar panels bag. I was able to test for only two days but so far I am satisfied with the results.
Genuinely interested why my 425W Sunpower Maxeon 3 panel can give over 425W when other manufacturers such as yourselves often do not hit their stated numbers. Is it due to Sunpower using a more realistic number rather than the more standardised test number?
I'm sure the Sunpower panel is more than 6-10% bigger than competing 400-425 watt panels. Other factors include the coating/layers. Most of the EF panels are IP68, slightly reducing efficiency. If the sunpower has less protective layers, it'll have an easier time reaching the max output. EF is also using a standardized test which may be different than other manufacturers. Seeing a few panel reviews, I will assume the sunpower is probably less durable/water resistant and not proportionately larger compared to other similar panels. If you compared the sqft of the higher quality panels, you would see that they are usually 10-15% smaller or more, which is not equal to the 6% increase in wattage.
You should explain that based on environmental conditions and geographic location, it may not be possible to get 100% rated power from any solar panel. Humidity, haze, high altitude cloud cover, smoke, all diminish the potential power output of a panel. Northern latitudes may never see 1000w/m2 even with ideal conditions and a perfect panel setup.
Thank you for this info.👍
My Ecoflow 400W folding panel is crazy efficient with my Delta Pro’s, I’ve had it at 364W laying flat on the patio roof, it’s better than my Renogy’s and they’re bloody good too. Neither have ever been cleaned by anything other than the weather but that does a good job here in the UK.
I am getting max 300W but averaging 220W
I just bought the Delta max 2 with 2 bifacial portable panels. Iam beginning my journey to solar energy. My question can i leave my 220 portable panels out in garden at night or it cause damage over time if i do this all the time? Thanks for your answer
Hi, yes you can leave them out at night but it is not recommended to do this all the time as the tempered glass might be damaged.
I live in Ecuador and I want to import an ecoflow power station and buy the solar panel here locally. I wonder if the connection between a power station and a solar panel is universal and if iI will be able to find the accesorioes/connectors in my local hardware store or if the Ecoflow power station will only work with Ecoflow solar panels? Thank you
Can I put flexible solar panel on top on vehicle while moving/driving, I mean is it good idea although condition fluctuate?
User error every time imo. My 220 will pull 215-220 consistently setup correctly. Had similar questions before I researched proper setup.
Also if it's pinned at 110 ish, check to see if you have the correct side facing the sun. Easy mistake to make with this panel even with that notice printed on it.
if a fully charged delta 2 hooked up with solar panels and i hooked up a load, does it will take the power from the panels directly or it will use the battery then it will be recharged🤔
@ecoflow can you make a video about your portable\ automated solar tracking system and if the previous problems has been fixed or is a next generation version is in the pipelines ?
good job !👍
Good info.
Glad it was helpful!
What could cause my Ecoflow 400 W panel to only generate 270 W under the following conditions: 1800 m above sea level, clear blue sky, end of July, 17 degrees Celsius, vertically oriented towards sun, shortly before noon? I used to get 400+ W output and fear there may be some sort of damage to the panel. Thanks!
Hi, could you provide me with the serial number of your panels? Also, here is test you can try on your panels. You can try cover some parts of the panel to see if the solar input change. If no changes happen, it suggests that the covered part might have a problem. Let me know if this helps.
My EF 220W Bifacial gave me 245W in perfect alignment under a super clear sky - That's 111%! Couldn't believe it
Amazing!
Eco flow solar panels definitely get the most solar input . However I do find them very ridgid to unfold and the set up process using the storage bag is terrible.
yah, I got how you feel. I have passed it over to our product team
I found the same thing with the 220 panels, what i did after taking it out of the bag is use a small duffle type bag strap hook it to the 2 centre holes and it made it so much easier to move around then attach to the EcoFlow bag/stand....works for me and im 69 years young.
*Question* ~ Will a Delta 2 accept an A/C input from a modified sine wave inverter, or must you use a pure sine wave inverter?
Hi there, it is recommended to use a pure sine wave inverter.
@@EcoFlowTech ~ I understand "recommended" A/C input, however, does your response confirm a modified sine wave inverter will not work to recharge a Delta 2?
Hi sorry for late reply! Theoretically and practically, modified sine wave can be used for AC charging. However, the AC power used to charge our battery is "not clean" which will affect our battery and the circuits. Therefore, it is not recommended to use modified sine wave inverter.
@@EcoFlowTech ~ Thank you 😎
You didn't say anything the average person doesn't already know. Aim the panel at 90 degrees to the sun. Keep moving it during the day. Whoopee. How about if you put out a video concerning heat degradation when the temperature is 100 degrees and the panel heats up to 130 plus degrees or more and reduces the panel's output to less than 50% of its rated power. How about some truthful advertising informing customers that part of the rating system is based upon ambient temperatures of 75 degrees or below.
wow not bad, thanks for sharing! It is indeed a good idea👍
What about temperature issues I went camping and the outside temp was 106*F the units are rated at 116*F and I could get my ecoflow river pro solar generator to charge with my 160watt ecoflow solar panels . I had a 12v fridge connected to the system for the weekend and it ruined the trip.
Hi I am sorry to hear that. Could you pls give more details on the issue? I am more than happy to help!
@@EcoFlowTech The weekend of July 22 I was on a camping trip in Northern California temperature was 106*F high that weekend . I have a EcoFlow River and EcoFlow solar panels 160watt connected powering a Dometic 12v fridge with all our food for the trip 3 days , 2 nights. At 3pm every day the unit had 0watts coming into it until 7pm. I tried everything to get it charging again with no success until the evening and next day. Both the solar generator & panels are new , specs in your webpage state that they are rated at 117*F so I’m not sure why the units were going down.
Hi! Sorry for my late reply, below are my suggestions:
1. Upgrade the firmware. You can try to set on solar charging at your EcoFlow app--setting--DC mode.
2. Try car charging your River. If car charging can work, it means the issue lies on the solar panel. If car charging fails, there might be something wrong with the River, you can reach out to our after-sales team for support. Here is the email👉support@ecoflow.com
I just purchased the Allpowers 200 watt solar panels. To my dismay, they only put out 109 watts! On a perfect sunnywith the pannels adjusted correctly. I was able to return them. However, I have not received my credit yet. Very disappointed in these manufactures.
Sorry to hear that. Just in case you might be interested in EcoFlow solar panels, here is the link👉www.ecoflow.com/us/collections/solar-generators
Well, I get 166W from their 160W panel
Who thought hardcoding subtitles on youtube is a good idea?
My bad, will listen📝
The Next #EcoFlow or #Bluetti Powerstation should be able to handle 2x "normal" full size 400W Soluar Panels :D
Hi, our Delta Max, Delta Pro and Delta 2 Max can support 2 full size 400W solar panels :)
🤣
I think most folks who buy solar panels figure out pretty quickly that you NEVER get the rated output from a panel. What I would like to see is truth in advertising. Instead of only listing the laboratory results, put a 2nd number on the panel, showing either the "typical" output, or a percentage of the rated capacity one should realistically expect. Will manufacturers do this? No, they'll continue to use the misleading system they currently have in place, in large part because of panel degradation over time. They don't want to be held accountable for delivering the rated capacity, or anything close to it.
I got your feeling. And that is also why we make this video to offer some advice on making the most of your panels. The "typical" output can be tricky to define given that our global users face varied situations. But still thank you for your suggestions.
my panels dont work at night...
Hi, it is normal that solar panels do not work at night as the sun radiation is very low.
Lol😂
Terrible customer service. They do not answer the phone. Am waiting for a refund. One month now
Hi, would you mind telling me your order number or case number? I will prioritize your case.
Same here. 1.5 hrs on phone hold and 4 times on chat hold for over half hour each only to be disconnected each time I was next in line to be helped. I get 40 watts charge on a 220 watt brand new solar panel.
Only had the panel and a Delta 2 for a little over a week and feel as though I’ve been taken. Terrible customer service!!!
Hi, sorry about that. Could you tell me your order number or case number? I will prioritize your case.
So, basically scam confirmed?
@EcoFlow Please may I win a Beautiful EcoFlow Portable Power Generator, my Wife and I are going to be purchasing a piece of land to build our OFF-grid Home and we are going to be also starting an You Tube Tube Channel to bring everyone on our Journey during the whole process and need a way to charge our battery powered tools and we have to find a 12Volt refrigerator to keep our items cold and my medication too... Thank you EcoFlow!!! As we are subscribed and liked#25!!!
What could cause my Ecoflow 400 W panel to only generate 270 W under the following conditions: 1800 m above sea level, clear blue sky, end of July, 17 degrees Celsius, vertically oriented towards sun, shortly before noon? I used to get 400+ W output and fear there may be some sort of damage to the panel. Thanks!
Hi, could you provide me with the serial number of your panels? Also, here is test you can try on your panels. You can try cover some parts of the panel to see if the solar input changes. If no changes happen, it suggests that the covered part might have a problem. Let me know if this helps.
My brand new 220 bifacial panel only puts out about 40 watts in full daylight in Florida. I’ve call customer service only to be on hold for 1.5 hours and went in to chat support on 4 different occasions waiting for over 1/2 hour each time only to get bumped off each time I became next in line to be assisted. I am ready to pack the whole bunch up and send it back. WhT good is any product without useable customer service!
Hi I am sorry about that. Would you mind telling me your order number or case number? I will prioritize your case.
@@EcoFlowTech I have performed the test as you suggested: Independently of which of the four panels is covered, the output drops by approximately 25%. I have also verified whether my 3rd party extension cords could be the issue - not the case either. S/N is DAEBZ5ZD9100651. Thanks for your support! PS: Location at the time of testing was Switzerland. Same results today, 1600 m above sea level, 23 degrees Celsius, 11:30AM, clear blue sky.
Okay! In that case, you can contact our support team. They will help you will this 👉support@ecoflow.com