Should I do EMDR therapy? 5 questions to help you decide
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- There's not a huge amount of info out there about EMDR so in this video I talk you through some of the things I think it's helpful to consider if this therapy has been recommended to you and you're considering it.
This is me sharing my personal opinion and experience having gone through a course of EMDR for my PTSD.
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You might also like my other videos re EMDR:
My experience of EMDR (personal video):
• My experience of EMDR ...
EMDR: 3 things I wish I'd known before I started trauma therapy: • EMDR: 3 things I wish ...
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I love the way your books are all colour coordinated!
Me too! 😁
It makes it hard to find information by topic or author. Completely unbrowseable. It makes me think whoever does it, doesn't actually read, or know what's inside of books, or why you would arrange them in any order. I lived with a librarian who did it with her private collection and I'm pretty sure she bought a majority of her books for show.
I arranged a bookshop like that once. It looked so great the sales fell through the floor and no one cared (for a bit).
@@danieldeelite she has explained in her other EMDR video that it really helps her find books because she remembers the colours of the covers better than author's names. Just because you can't relate to this way of thinking, doesn't mean that other people are wrong or faking. It's fine that you don't want to do things her way, but your way of doing things isn't the only valid way. If you watch her content, it's clear that she really is an avid reader.
@@danieldeelite Yes, agree. Perhaps one might like the ways it LOOKS, but I can only assume they are more interested in decoration than in easily accessing their books for actual reading.
I did EMDR. IF something badly traumatic happened to you, it WILL re-traumatise you especially if it’s something you didn’t remember over and above just ‘not exploring it’. You will need to get over that; 2 years on i’m the best I have ever ever ever been, as Rediculously beyond terrible it was to ‘re-live’ my experiences, the truth quite literally set me free. it could put a less strong person seriously in true looney bin if your not rock solid foundation (just finished watching the video, she calls it a ‘coping strategy’ before doing it. I would Personally say, the worse the trauma, the more strong you need to be before you consider embarking on it and definately have a hugely supportive , strong person you have access to around you as there WILL be times ‘you’ aren’t enough to get through it
That's terrifying, I have no coping strategies and no support group, I can't imagine reliving the nightmare I'm already in everyday, my new psychiatrist has recommended that I do this therapy
I had to watch this video twice, because the first time I couldn’t get passed what an awesome sense of color and style you have.
Just about to embark on EMDR this week. Ive been told its going to be very difficult and my safety has been put in place. Im very anxious about it, but dont want to live with my PTSD and trauma anymore, its all gone on for far too long. Your videos are amazing Pooky, truthful and honest you speak from your heart. Thank you.
Did u do it or not ?
Would love to hear your results
How did it go??
It was suggested to me when I was 13, and I was terrified that it would brainwash me. So, this video is super helpful with deciding if I want to do it in the future.
I've been doing talk therapy and meditation for 7 years for zero results. My issues are how I 'feel'. It's physiological. I feel like a child who is about to get in trouble, isn't good enough, something terrible is about to happen. I am one session in and have been told there will probably be 4 planning sessions then up to 8 EMDR sessions. This is my only hope
I hope it helps Chris.
how did it go?
Thank you very much. I have just started this therapy and nobody mentioned how bad l could feel after these sessions. I feel ok now knowing this is normal. Thank you!
That’s really badass that you as a therapist is sharing this since most people assume therapists should have all their shit under control. This video is useful to me. I didn’t really consider how much effort as a patient goes into this. I thought it was a more hypnosis thing that you just snap out of. Thank you and good luck
I am starting with an EMDR therapist next week and I am already feeling like a tidal wave of unresolved trauma is heading squarely at me. This makes me nervous but I am feeling out of options. Your insight is appreciated. I have to find a way to circumvent my thinking so I hope this works... thank you
I showed up to start my first EMDR session today. My therapist started asking questions about my safety plan. She said she wants to work with me refining this plan before we get into the therapy. Your questions dovetail well with the approach my therapist is taking. Thank you.
I have to say, I love how you have color coded your books!!
Thank for your informative video. I am myself considering this therapy and I always try and research these things and I came acrossed your video and found it incredibly informative and openly personal. Thank your experience and I'm pleased to hear that it was helpful in the end for you. Peace
You're very inspiring. Thank you for sharing your experience and this video 💝
Thank you for this. I felt like I was ready to start trauma therapy but my therapist decided to wait and work on coping strategies first.
Your explanation has helped me understand why my therapist wants to wait. Now, I'm more willing to follow his advice.
How did it go?
Pooky, Thank you. I stumbled across your emdr videos after researching for the past year trying to understand myself. Had a therapist that honestly wasted some of my time, but pissed me off enough to do my own research. Found an emdr therapist who specializes in trauma, ptsd, and addictions. Im pretty terrifidd to start but life couldnt be much worse.
Good luck Jayson
Hi, Jayson...has been one year....I am curious how did your Emdr therapy go? would like to hear about your experience. Thanks!
Thank you for your insight, Pooky. P.S. Love the way you arrange your books!
Im looking into this atm and this video is really helpful so thank you. Going to watch your other ones on this .
This was really helpful and gave me lots to think about and discuss with my therapist. Thank you
This video was so helpful. I'm trying to decide whether or not EMDR would be the best way to approach my PTSD and your video has been super helpful in my process. I feel much less anxious about my initial consultation now that I'm more informed. Thank you so much!
Good luck with your decision and your journey
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Thank you for this. I needed to hear 'I've tried everything' because I haven't tried everything else yet.
your bookshelf makes me happy.
Excellent - five very useful questions.
Also have an Ed (in recovery) tried every other therapy. Know I need to get over my childhood trauma to fully recover from the Ed, ocd, depression and anxiety. Thank you so much for this video. Really appreciate it, so helpful!! Due to start EMDR on Monday!!!
How did it go?
Thank you, I am glad this video exissts and it helped a lot
I suffer from ptsd anxiety depression and trauma. I am starting trauma therapy soon. Thank you for the pointers and information.
Hi . How did it go?
Thanks for breaking things down
Ooo, thank you for putting this up!
Good to hear that DBT can help with staying safe - I'm in the middle of a DBT programme at the moment, and whilst it is very helpful, so far I haven't found anything in it that helps with flashbacks. I'm really hoping EMDR might address this (once I've finished DBT).
There is also Schema Focused Group Therapy available in my area, and I honestly don't know which would be better for Complex PTSD - Schema or EMDR??
Good luck with it - I've done both and both have helped in different ways - the EMDR more with the day to day flashbacks, the schema therapy more with helping me address the way I think about myself etc. They're very different kinds of therapy and also different people find different things helpful etc - it's good to hear you have access to a range of different therapies as hopefully you'll be able to find something that helps. How are you finding the DBT? I've found it incredibly helpful in the long term although sometimes in the short term I didn't always see the point..
@@PookyH - hi Pooky, thanks so much for your reply.
DBT - there's certainly a lot in there that is very useful for people who have deep mood swings and who can get very upset very quickly and rapidly spiral down in mood to a point where they are considering destructive behaviour or engaging in it. There's a lot to take in - learning the theory is great but applying it day to day can be challenging. It's similar to CBT in that it provides a toolkit for managing day to day and doesn't delve into the roots of the mental distress. However it is a long term, and much more in depth programme of therapy than CBT. Whilst it is targeted at people with Emotionally Unstable or Borderline PD, I actually think that some of it would be useful to anyone/everyone, after all, everyone has stressful times in their life (unless they're very lucky!)
I'm really hoping I get a chance to try EMDR now as I'm hoping it will help with flashbacks and ruminating/reliving past experiences.
We're very lucky to have an excellent Intensive Psychotherapies Service here in Bradford. I actually moved from Halifax to be able to access this, and it's been worth the move!
Thank you for this!!
You're one brave lady ❤️
I love these questions thankyou so helpful
Very helpful video. I will probably wait a bit.
good luck with the journey
Question 1: yes, i really want my thinking to change. Question 2: i will do everything necessary. I am a hard worker and especially now that i need to work on myself. question 3: i am a real survivor, i will get through this and be stronger after. question 4: yes, i have 2 places to hide, at my daughter and my brother. question 5: the worst that can happen is that i will harm my alcoholic husband. So after viewing your video's i will start with EMDR next week. Than i have my first appointment. Thank you for your advice
Good luck!
This was helpful, ive subscribed ❤! Ty!
Yay! Thank you!
Wonderful video! I'll be saving & sharing this to my clients. I have a few EMDR resources on my channel too. Would love to connect ✨
Love how you color coded your books!! 💗 Dr. Liz
Thank you
Pooky for another excellent insight into the pros and cons of therapy. As ever your openness is not only impressive but really useful as you speak with the voice of experience. You have lived through this and this alone will help others in need of sound advice. Of all the therapies you have tried is there either a recognised order or a preferential order for them?
Hi Terry - I don't think I have a favourite - they've all had their place at different times but also I think that therapy is a bit like washing detergent - at the end of the day it's all just soap! One thing I do know though is that regardless of the type of therapy, for me it is always better one to one than in a group...
@@PookyH interesting
ive been recommended EDMR by my therapist for flashbacks and trauma, I'm really scared to start EDMR. I'm not strong for this
Excellent video 😊😊😊
Im going to start doing this therapy in about 10 days, this was so helpful! I am totally ready, i need the change, i don't have time for this anymore. Umm i do like chatting though haha. And sharing. But perhaps this will help not feel compelled to deflect. Super excited about it. Didnt even know what it was, kinda just sounds cool haha
Hi, marisha...has been one month....I am curious how did your Emdr therapy go? would like to hear about your experience. Thanks!
Hi, I'm From Brazil. Thanks for your video.
I love your videos.
Very good video.
I’ve been trying to get my ex to try this. She’s been through a lot and I really felt like her trauma and fear were the main forces that ended our relationship. She couldn’t be honest with me and I didn’t feel like I could trust her and it’s because she let’s her fear run her life. I’ve already mentioned it to her but usually she feels like any push for mental health is me telling her there’s something wrong with her or that she’s not good enough.
I really miss her and I know how much she struggles but I don’t know what to do
Hope you are both ok!
Thank you.
Ive been doing emdr i find it really awesome truth n raw
Does EMDR work for C-PTSD?
I have worked with one therapist for like 9 months. Then I had to change my therapist and my memories or images that I have already worked on well, almost 60-70 percent of them are still giving me the same mental and emotional pain.
Yes!
@@ThkTwice hey, it works!! Turned out these were my final few months. From going through immense pain i rather started psychoanalyzing myself during each emdr session, target memories started to have no impact at all. I have made major life changing decisions and achieved so much. Finally my therapist told me that I don't need regular sessions any more. If something from past, present or future bothers me I can contact her again. I'm so so so happy that it worked out like a magic for me.
I’m in treatment for anorexia and I’m struggling to let go of it. My therapist wants me to do EMDR because I can’t let go and she thinks that once I get control over my trauma, I’ll be able to work on my eating disorder. Do you think that you could have succeeded with EMDR with an active eating disorder?
EMDR isn't for everybody they say, well, I thought I... would be fine. SURE WASN"T. I do NOT discourage others here, but only to share my story. Not many minutes into the first session and my "body" went totally wild. The "pain" was so raw, wet, and blood red, so-to-speak, and my nervous system was way-y beyond maxed out. I completely collapsed after the counselor stopped, realizing my system was overwhelmed. I was so exhausted my body felt like a rag doll, my consciousness separated from my body for a few minutes and I was in a timeless dark place that was so peaceful. She sat quietly, then asked a couple questions I eventually answered, I started talking... and eventually recovered enough to drive myself home. A few days later I go to my Dr. who does energetic kinesiology, and he found I had a Glutamate (a neurotransmitter) spike. I told him about the EMDR ordeal and he checked if the glutamate spike was from the EMDR attempt, and it was! He told me that for me EMDR was too "invasive", and that toxic spikes of glutamate "will cause brain damage". This was disappointing to me, I had my heart set on EMDR. But I had just started a 5 day course of SSP (Sound and Safe Protocol) of Dr. Porges and his iLs (Integrated Listening System). This made a huge difference and isn't nearly so triggering and profoundly changed my outlook. (It balances and calms the polyvagal nervous system.) I am only a few days on from completing this SSP and it sure looks good from here! I would some day like to try EMDR but not sure if I ever really will. I don't regret trying as I learned a lot through the experience. Pain is SO REAL. People can actually scoff at it. I felt like I had worked so hard to resolve my issues and made peace and sorted so much out. I'm 48 years old and spent my life trying to resolve everything and still... this pain was so raw once directly addressed. My primary counselor says she never heard of a response from EMDR like I had. If anyone has thoughts on my experience or anything else I would so much love to hear what you think.
Live by this: The way OUT, is the way THROUGH. Allow pain to be your guide to take you to the other side. It's your friend, not your enemy.
I'm so sorry to hear this - is there anything that has worked better for you?
@@PookyH Yes thanks! Safe and Sound Protocol (SSP) by Dr. Porges couldn't have been a better way to keep me moving forward. This is based on Polyvagul Theory and allowed my system to relax and from there be able to access the hurt and dissociation in an environment of feeling safe and secure. I couldn't recommend it more. It is considered to be "less invasive" than EMDR. I just feel like my pain body was so raw sick and tired of being messed with and simply needed to feel safe loved and cared for and allow the parts to integrate without the triggers. I am speaking for myself here but progress and healing never look so good
Thank you for sharing you story.
My therapist decided to wait until I learned better coping skills before starting trauma therapy. He said that it was tough and he felt that I wasn't ready for it. I wanted to argue.
Reading these stories help me to trust my therapist and the process he is guiding me through.
@@PookyH Johnathon England and their Earthwaking Village has been a lot of support. I have sought out about everything I could find. A little here and there. Put lots of things together. Whatever works for You! Tapping helps a lot. Learning to connect to your body, to talk to it, to master it. Another breakthrough recently was a couple sitting down with me that used Dr,. Karl Paynes book "Spiritual Warfare". That was a huge step forward! Exercising is way underestimated, breathing techniques to slow down or speed up your system, or to face difficulties. Ultimately, to empower yourself, identify and change subconscious beliefs, leaning on others. I recommend Mind Movies for clearing out subconscious blocks. Working with your energies like breatharians do, that is really awesome. And after all that is said, Belief that there ARE NO LIMITS. Use Your imagination, and you CAN and WILL go anywhere you want, no matter WHAT your debilitations may currently Seem to be. I have reason to say that! If anybody reads this, I send you love and light, May Love wrap you and keep you warm. May Love guide you, we are all here for You.
I've had somatization disorder now for 12 years being diagnosed only 6 years ago. After hundreds of doctors appointments and multiple tests like m.r.i.s, ct scans, ultrasounds over that 12 year span, nothing has been found from these symptoms that I go through. I've tried meds, cognitive behavior therapy, acupuncture and almost everything in the book these past 6 years yet I still suffer from this debilitating disease. I applied for social security disability and got it right away as I have just been crippled by this disease. Scary thing is that you don't know what's real and what's not. I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer last year even though I felt no symptoms for that one particular thing. It was found as I had an m.r.i. for swelling under my jaw. My shrink said to stay away from doctors while my doctor said if i'm dealing with real symptoms, i must follow up with a doctor. I feel real painful and destressing symptoms....I've almost exhausted everything but this. Can it help?
How are you?
@@irenedavo3768 Terrible. I've been dealing with pain since February and chalked it up to somatization but the pain became unbearable so I had a CT scan done last week, get the results tomorrow. I've also been doing TMS for about a month but again, I don't know if what I'm dealing with is somatization. I'll know more tomorrow and move forward accordingly. Thank you for asking.
I am bloddy scared to do this!
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I get that EMDR helps with flash backs. Does it help with other symptoms like problems of attention, impulsivity, disassociation, anger etc ?
DBT skills sounds like they are useful. Seems like a person would need a group for support during EMDR.
I don’t want my symptoms to get worse. I cannot afford relapse or return of suicidal ideation, (never plans) and I can’t afford to lose weeks off work because of raised symptoms, if they leads to loss of work, debt, loss of primary relationship.
My advice would be, without realising, your past experiences sub-consciously make the ‘map’ of how you act and show up in the world. If your past trauma is making you act in a way to experiences negative experiences. then as long as you are strong enough to come through the EMDR process, my answer, would be quite possibly yes
Wondering how old you were when you did EMDR. I'm 58, have had panic disorder/depression since I was 24, and wonder if my habituated patterns are more difficult to change.
I was in my 30s. It was hard work as I was undoing decades worth of trauma response, but it has given me my life back - I just released an update video today: th-cam.com/video/ChP1Gidj2BY/w-d-xo.html
does emdr work only for specific traumatic events or can it help for depression or constant negative thinking patterns ?
Nay. murray I can tell you my personal experience. I have used it for similar to what you are describing, self administered.
At the point where I should recall the trauma, I recalled an incident of feeling very low and emotionally attacked by another person.
I recalled those feelings when directed to recall the traumatic event mentioned in EMDR.
Then I replaced those feeling with a positive affirmation and tried to call up positive feelings towards myself during the later grounding stage.
Does that make sense?
It did help. But this is only my personal experience.
Please ask your therapist too. I know some therapists offer a free phone call to see whether what they do would be suitable for you. Your feelings are valid and you are doing so well to be reaching out and looking into these things 💖
I am just about to start my EMDR therapy at my next appointment. I know some therapists use their fingers or a pen and others use the light during the actual EMDR. Do you feel one is better than the other or do they all work the same please?
I like the fingers
Michelle Coronado thank you so much! That’s my only option at this point.
My therapist started with fingers but got a fancy light bar a few weeks in. I hated it and continued with fingers - but that might just be what I was used to (plus I'm autistic and find lights and stuff a bit tricky). I've no idea if there's evidence re efficacy but I guess I'd recommend you try whatever options you're given and just go with what feels best for you and your therapist.
Pooky Knightsmith Mental Health thank you! I’ve had 2 sessions now with my therapist using her fingers instead of a light. It’s my only option. I’m so desperate for my trauma and terror to be behind me, that I am trusting her that her way will work perfectly. It took two sessions for me to process only one trauma. I didn’t realize this is going to be a very lengthy process. I only get to see her once a week. I have nothing but time and patience right now so I’m more than ok with it. Without my higher power I know I would be dead. I never really had a belief one way or another but my faith in a higher power has saved me so far and I know will continue to do so. That’s what gets me by session to session.
I know EMDR is what’s going to really help me to heal fully. I had no idea that trauma can greatly effect physical health as well. I have many health problems too. I’m looking forward to seeing if EMDR helps improve my physical health as well. Thank you for your videos. I have found them to be very helpful. God bless!🤗💖
I practice EMDR with what we call “tappers”. It’s a small unit where the client holds a small “paddle” in each hand that vibrate alternately. At the other end of the wires is a small unit that the therapist uses to start and stop and control the strength/speed/duration of the vibrations. I like using these because I do not have to be up close to the client. I also wonder if there’s value of them being able to keep their eyes closed during the process. Another clear advantage would be for those who are sight impaired. Other than in my training, I actually have never practiced with actual eye movement, so I cannot personally speak to the effectiveness of one method over the other. I have seen tremendous results with the people I’ve worked with, so I’ve never questioned if I should move to eye movements. I suppose if someone was not responding to the tappers I’d try eye movement, but there are usually other factors we can resolve, such as a framing of the target memory, that clear up any barrier to the process.
how often should we practice this therapy? i have problems with PTSD and anxiety and im very curious about it
Once a wk for a few months
Is this a type of hypnosis?
The question I have is my wife is currently starting this process with 50 years of trauma under her belt. She is 56 years old as we speak. She feels she’ll have this under control within a couple of months I feel this is going to take years because the trauma that she has gone through is pretty serious stuff including sexual abuse mental and physical trauma. So does this process in theory take time and I mean years especially when you have 50+ years of baggage under your belt sorry for the terms. Would love to hear your feedback.
How is she now?
(Now see your comment is old) hope this helps others coming here in research …… x …. What an incredibly supportive and caring partner. My experience and advice, it will be incredibly tough for her, she will need your love, support, ear, and the ability for you to listen, without judgement and with total belief in what she tells you; the last couple are crucial, the latter, not easy when it’s not you going through the process; it can be bizarre by my experience what ‘comes up’; yes, based on her past it could help her incredibly BUT, my experience, I’m similar background, it’s an incredibly traumatic therapy. The experience of the therapy alone traumatised me as I re-experinced the traumatic experience first hand, dropping into 2 seperate memories multiple times (treatment sessions), each time different segments of it, more full lengthy re-living it as the sessions progressed; it’s incredibly tough; however the truth of what happened ‘set ‘me’ free’, (for me being ‘underlined’…) it’s like all my life (I’m similar age..) all my life suddenly over those treatments made sense. It’s the most life-‘shaking’ and shocking experience I have ever gone through (the therapy) and has made me a stratosphericly better person .. but it took me 1-2 years to get back over the therapy, but compared to 50+ years of my past (sub-conciously obviously) defining’ and ‘ruling’ my present in a vastly negative way, the pain of staying ‘where I was’ was enough Leverage to get me through the therapy. Hope that helps, I don’t get notifications of reply’s, but wish you and your wife all the love and support in the world, found it heart warming to feel your love and support for her
Starting EMDR In 3 weeks.
You said it's for a single trauma event in life.
What if there is multiple trauma life events?
Would thos still help me?
Hey - I had both - I think it helped with both but the best person to talk to about it is your therapist. It was a treatment I reluctantly undertook but some years in now I am so grateful. It was hard work but a massive turning point in getting my life back. Good luck!
for me, if all traumas of a similar thread, then yes. If traumas all fundamentally different, you treat each trauma seperately one by one with huge time between them if necesary to assimilate and recover from the previous EMDR
I’ve been trying this with my therapist for about 3 sessions and I’m sorry I just don’t get it. I’ve been really trying to engage but I just feel silly and awkward and like I’ve wasted my time every-time I leave. I’m trying to trust the process and hang in there, but I would just rather talk and get tangible steps on how to heal.
Ask yourself What is it you are doing EMDR for.. what words ‘come up for you’ about that thing, and TAP on those trigger words; something says to me practitioner not getting you to associate OR reason for the block (protection) if ‘your not ready’ your sub-concious (your brain for want of a better word) will protect you. Good luck
Ok but the book collection
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You talk like me. Think fast talk fast 🤗 like it. Thanks for EMDR
So ontime
A couple of the books in the green section belong in blue. Just saying....I felt triggered.
I could never trust someone who colour-coordinates their books. Ok, maybe just this once.... :-)
Ok, definitely this once.
How can dealing with one traumatic experience help you get over a lifetime of countless others? Everyday is a chance to be pinged back into hell and, more often than not, it happens.
EMDR can help you to break the cycle of trauma, lots of trauma webs together and can create unhelpful patterns in life and processing the key trauma can promote a change overall.
Prince Harry brought me here. Who else is here because they saw Prince Harry going through the process on telly.?
Me too Thk u Harry 🙏🙏🙏🙏🔥🔥💖💖💖
Prince H put me right off.
He is using his self indulgent disclosure to make big bucks.
He is so dysfunctional, he is not a good example to follow.
I want to be a better person than him
EMDR is very powerful and should only be done with a therapist. It’s not something you do by yourself. I think the Prince Harry story missed the mark with that message.
"Pooky" knightsmith has pink hair. Why does anyone take this chick seriously
Lol. Not for me thanks.
Don't take mental health advice from people who organize their books by color
I find it very calming and pleasing
You are full of shit dude
@@DivineLightPaladin The books distracted me so much, I had to move to another tab while I listened. Books in color order makes NO sense. By title, by author or by genre - that makes sense. Even absolutely random makes sense - since it's usually not random to the owner of the books. I'll even accept by size, since tall books are usually best at the ends, and heavy books on the bottom - both help the stability of the book case and nicely aligned books are easy on the eyes. But color order? Are they for reading or decoration? People who go by color....are generally not readers, they just want people to think they are. And see...they bother me so much I had to rant on 6 month old post. LOL
I am looking into therapies and the more I research EMDR the more it sounds like its not a real thing. What people describe going through it just seems insane to me.