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Dr. David Starkey - Uncut: Assaults on Brexit, British Identity & History I So What You're Saying Is
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 พ.ค. 2019
- A personal and candid conversation with Britain's most provocative historian in which he speaks about his early life, influences and career, and the journey that brought him to our screens.
Calling the Henry VIII's break with Rome the "other Brexit", Starkey compare and contrasts Theresa May's negotiations with the EU and Henry VIII's negotiations with the Pope. His verdict is not one the P.M. would wish to hear.
Moving on to English identity, we learn why the Tudors dominate England's cultural landscape -- particularly Henry VIII and Elizabeth I -- and why the British Empire is unique in having transformed its colonies/dominions into self-governing, sovereign nations.
From landmark documentary series to political panel shows, David Starkey, once dubbed "the Rudest Man in Britain", never fails to make compelling television. Here, however, is an opportunity to gain a greater understanding of an important contributor to contemporary cultural discourse.
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As a straight man who is a wee bit older than Dr Starkey, I love him to bits! PS: anyone who hasn’t seen his fabulous duel with the absurd Laurie Penny, go for it!
Nice to hear the voice of reason occasionally.
A pity that Starkey doesn't take on the Churchillian role he describes at the end, as I am sure just by the criteria he notes that he is more than capable of it.
Another brilliant man, with a brilliant mind. Thank you David Starky for educating me with the truth. A must see is David's discussion on the Magna Carta, where he calls out Rory Stuart out, as a Leftist in the Conservative Party, but if you listen to Stuart careful it is worse than that.
Is there a reason for the colours of your decor in this studio?
I like that analogy, Plato's cave thinking, indeed; we may be peasants in the eyes of some schools of belief in Parliament, but we are not stupid, my upbringing may have been traumatic, but it caused me to consider situations of reality, and try to understand the other person's position. The past needs to be understood before we can move on. As move forward we must. It's like the scratched record on turntable that keeps jumping back to the same point, and repeating itself.....
This interview is pivotal. Dr. Starkey gets the opportunity to make some highly fundamental points: the lacklustre performance of the Queen, the pernicious behaviour of Speaker Bercow, the suicidal complacency of Parliament and, on his strongest ground, the history of the English constitution, its increasing failure to function and the possible need to replace/overhaul it.
Kudos to you, Peter, in inviting him to your channel and in giving him the room to develop his ideas. A tour de force.
All that and more Digory. A tour de force.
Digory point well made.
I agree with him that the queen has fallen short of her coronation vows. It’s so awkward and painful to say it especially when you love the queen and am royalist like myself. God bless her , but there is a much more active role she could’ve taken, and shall we say “guided” her government and Parliament towards better decisions.
@Saint Christopher invalid regarding your brainpower , but from your comments you are already short of cells up there eh
@@Patrick3183 To be fair to the Queen what can she do? The Monarchs Power is limited, all she really has available to her is to offer her opinion, and with a question as highly charged and contentious as Brexit she has to be *very* careful about offering even that. Not to mention the fact she is 93 years old, hardly a spring chicken. Perhaps someone younger like Prince William would be more able to wade in, but the Queens options are pretty limited given the limited extent of her actual power. Hell, the entire furor over Brexit is already bringing up serious questions about the state of British Democracy without the Royal Family possibly making things much worse.
And really that is what many of the calls for new referendums, or overturning the referendum result are about, British Democracy, some people seem to have this idea that if they do not agree with the result it is somehow undemocratic. If the Queen were to get involved it may make things worse, even if she has the best intentions in mind. Especially considering the fact that the Commons are generally Pro EU, and Remain is on the whole far, far more vocal than Leave.
You would never see this on the BBC and that is what is wrong about the BBC.
Great interview, this how they should all be.
good point. The BBC suits would choke on it though
Johnny Norfolk You are right. The BBC would have an interviewer who would challenge Starkey with some difficult questions.That's the job of a decent questioner. All we get here is a sycophantic interviewer giving Starkey an easy ride.
Difficult questions are fine when they are properly neutral. The BBC always vouch theirs from the left of centre implying they are morally correct. That immediately implies all other views are morally wrong and it all goes down from there.
Allowing guests to speak freely is far more productive for the depth of their story.
@@davidelliott5843 Complete nonsense. I watch people like Andrew Marr, Andrew Neil, John Humphreys, Simon McCoy, the Newsnight presenters and a host of others challenging pro-Remain interviewees and giving them a hard time.. It's called 'playing devil's advocate' and is what any decent journalist does. You'll find exactly the same on Sky News with Adam Boulton et al. No, you simply want a 'patsy' like this so-called interviewer giving people you support an easy time.
@@clearlake3492 good point but I don't believe this approach is sycophantic; indeed, the clue is in the name [of] the channel, this is where the interviewee (not the interviewer) has an opportunity to clarify their views.
Starkey is absolutely spot on with the mood of the public and state of modern British politicians
Dread -|▪︎I agree but when does the cure to the sickness emerge ?▪︎|
Can’t agree more, it’s like hearing the voice of sanity
I don't entirely agree - during the last few minutes of the interview, Starkey believes Brexit won't happen and Farage is not the man to lead us. I think he's suggesting that we stay in the EU and Boris Johnson becomes the PM (but keeping us in the EU)
@Kevin Mason This is not just an English problem. The Americans voted for Trump because they were fed up of the status quo. The French Yellow Jackets are rioting because they are fed up of Macron/EU. The Irish voted on the EU and were asked to re-vote twice, I think. However, the Germans are generally because they are the main beneficiaries of the EU.
Where? How? Give examples.
Rod Liddle was great. Starkey was superb. These fireside chats with no BBC political correctness narrative are the essence of enlightenment.
Laurence Fox is worth a watch too
@@Oliviawww164 he really is. What a refreshing surprise!
Rod said brexit would not happen. It just goes to show the no nothing and Rod one of the good ones. Just look at labours useless young women that
Enter for leadership. Only young fool would vote for these stupid tampons . Labour go back to the best person for the job regardless of Color Race or gender. Labour has no talented women. There not a Margret Thatcher among them. The men are not much better.Labour .Your that busy trying to get women top jobs you got nobody that's able to do the job.. There is talented women out there they just not in the Commons
Dr. David Starkey, a true national treasure. Very eloquent individual.
Thank you for this upload.
God bless Dr. Starkey. He’s a treasure.
A self-confessed player of the pink oboe.
Hmm... no.
MichaelKingsfordGray that’s why there’s only God The Father.
Pleasure to hear a real historian rather than a social justice warrior masquerading as one. Brilliant.
A sjw with an inflated ego who has never read a book yet thinks they are intelligent on the subject matter because they know how to use google
Jpat
I agree. It's such a pleasure to hear the thoughts and experiences of a truly learned and articulate, sweet, honest man. He's an expert in his field, but self-effacing and gentlemanly. What a refreshing and informative speaker.
@Saint Christopher you SJW are rubbish at trolling
@Saint Christopher If one does not learn from one's mistakes, then one will forever be turning in circles. History simply shows that any notion of some unified code of 'social justice' whether PC culture of today or Catholicism of the middle ages, or yhe ancient gods of Greece, is such a chaotic, frivolous and ever changing thing that we just act out the same play with different actors - over and over again.
We've been raised, generation after generation, to believe there's more to humanity than this, but those beliefs are just a childish wish, a nightlight to ward off the monsters hiding in the shadows.
David Starkey is a man of fact, not emotion at a time when even most information we absorb is given by those who seek to capitalise on and profit from emotion. That is why he and his perspective is held in higher regard than most.
Refreshing.. indulgence for history lovers. You almost forget its like an autopsy of an unliving thing😥
49 minutes of listening to Dr Starkey is always time well spent! Some excellent points, especially the historic comparisons on Brexit. Well interviewed as always. Thank you!
Dude. I was surprised to notice it was 45minutes long. I could have listened for much longer to such an erudite analysis, particularly in an interview which allowed him to complete his arguments without interruption.
Thank you both. I was always a fan of David Starkey, now I am a greater fan.Such precision and clear thinking. Why do we not see more of him ? Of course !! ..... Because he tells the truth !
PRECISELY, AND OF COURSE. THAT WON'T DO AT ALL---THE BBC PAYMASTER'S WOULD BE CROSS, AND THREATEN TO REDUCE OR WITHDRAW THEIR MASSIVE FINANCIAL SUPPORT FROM THE E.U.
except Starkey does not tell the truth.
@@MrDaiseymay BBC is owned by the Rothschilds along with the associated Press and Reuters
Thanks for this talk with Dr. Starkey Peter. What an interesting conversation. Two intelligent people chatting who have something real to say. Great!
I remember seeing Starkey on QT maybe 10 years ago and thinking he was insufferable and wrong. I'm 33 now and I realise how utterly misinformed and judgemental I was. I now think he's one of the most valuable voices you might hope to hear on British television.
I owe everything to my old grammar school history teacher.Well done Dr Starkey for actually teaching your students.
Surly you mean pupils! In English you study what you have learnt, then you are a Student
@@12dougreed JEB didn't come across as surly to me. 😅
@@12dougreed A student is a person who is learning something. Students can be children, teenagers, or adults who are going to school, but it may also be other people who are learning, such as in college or university. A younger student is often called a pupil.
Really!!!
@@12dougreed Yes really! I was addressing your petty point, the one where you said, "Surly you mean pupils! In English you study what you have learnt, then you are a Student
." ..... see above.
As I have shown, you were wrong .... so what's with the "really!!!" comment?
What a very different country this would be if we had an army of history teachers like David Starkey in schools.
Oh yeah? How would it be different? What would be different exactly?
@Spinler Muckflitt There would still BE an expressly British cultural identity!
@@Soulrollsdeep they'd know what it is to be British
Why don't you have him Cloned, say 6000 of them spouting his History of how he sees it, of course he could be right, but also he may be wrong!
He is a likeable man of great wit, but, he is not what you would call a person who makes friends, I can say I have been in his company and we get on well, but Politically and Historically we are light years apart, he is a fine debater, I cannot fault him on that, but his views really are back in the Heights of British Empire and Victorian values, personally, his views on Brexit I think are wrong, on other subjects I may agree with him, he can be so controversial, that when you hear what he is actually saying, something often rude I may add, you cannot believe he just said that, he does this often, I think he knows how to say these things, a very intelligent but a little bit wacky fellow and friend I may add.
@fan8281 Thank you for that, yes I have understood this man, I know him personally, so please do not drag your own opinions of what my opinions are in to your stark little world.
I am a friend of this highly intelligent and very likeable man, I do not have to agree with his opinions, I may say likewise his on my own opinions, with the reference to clones, merely pointing out that if people want a person of a certain opinion to hold sway, then it would require every person of that ilk to sing from the same hymn sheet.
I have a long and vivid experience of people who have a blinkered view of the world, I would always say to them " Go out see the World meet people and try to understand their views " the views on Brexit are exactly this, yes I can understand that people want to leave the EU, I too think that is possible to do, but I also think for the ordinary bloke in the street and his family it will become an economic and political disaster.
There has to be a Consensus in some terms between leavers and remain to how we leave this organisation, presently you have everybody at Loggerheads, Proroguing Parliament is definitely not the way to succeed, bringing in Her Majesty as head of state is also a Political mess, now then, you say I have learned NOTHING from David Starkey, on the contrary, I have met and argued his point of view many times, he knows how to grab someones attention, very clever at being controversial, but that is the nature of this man, he Learns from his experience doing that. I also LEARN why he says his controversial views.
I have learned a lot from this Highly respectable Historian and a very plain speaker, who does not hold punches, I listen and learn, but I do not have to agree with what he says, that is called Human Nature.
I hope you can calm down and just agree to disagree, I find that is the easiest way.
This man is brimming with good old fashioned common sense.
Just sense, something the up for election every fours years (approx) perfidy MP's seem to have no comprehension of.
That's true he's an old fashioned old bugger.
No, it's not common sense, old fashioned or otherwise. His knowledge is obtained through considerable study, which is definitely uncommon and should be treasured highly.
He's highly astute, yet precisely on opposite terms to those you describe. He is a free-thinker+dissenter from the Quaker free-thought + friendship tradition. QuakerSpeak has similar characters - always willing to use presence of mind, and willing to speak truth to power - even the small powers that emerge which would blind most groups with dogma. It's a powerful practice+philosophy.
Yes, very "old-fashioned" indeed. Ideal Brexit front line fodder.
Dr Starkey was a great guest and makes his points so well. Excellent chat.
mouseketeery bb
Once again Peter, thanks for letting your guest speak uninterrupted. I have seen Dr David Starkey on pannel programs many times and he is constantly interrupted before he has explained what he had started to say/make a point. I am sure he would agree, a man who doesn't study history will continue to make the same mistakes. Which he explained 'Rome' in this interview. 👍
About time Starkey was let loose.
Steve Steve totally agree with you
History is a beast though. In many ways it is easier to predict the future than it is to understand the past. Unless we can trust historians to objectively review and analyse the past whilst stating the limitations of their theories and knowledge, we will almost certainly be using the wrong map as we head into the future. I don't know about you, but I don't trust them and I would rather navigate knowing I don't have a map than be led by an quantifiably inaccurate map which is believed to the be accurate enough.
Steve Steve it wasn’t an interview , there wasn’t an awkward question in it . Was like 2 right wing buddies confirming there ideas ! Why would he interrupt !
@@matt115lamb better than watching two left wing buddies though.
Dr Starkey is always a treat. Urbane, perceptive, eloquent and acerbic. My only regret is that he didn't go into politics - but perhaps he has made his greatest contribution by telling the truth. First class informative entertainment. Thank you.
Huzzah for Starkey! I don't always agree with his views, but it's a pleasure to listen to such well constructed arguments.
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This is the sort of material the national broadcaster should be putting out........
Absolutely! This is what they used to do until they lost their way.
@Flibbertigibbet6 :)
BBC would put out interviews of this quality in the 70s for sure.
But it's so much cheaper to dish out another soap opera, or quiz show...
@@roberttreborable But is it Robert? Two chaps, some nice chairs, and a bit of tech can't cost much.
It reminds me of how The Sky At Night used to be before it became an exercise in Political Correctness and was 'dumb-ed' down to the intellectual level of a Mail on Sunday supplement.
I love David Starkey. I have been to one of his lectures. Brilliant !!! Also a great author. A really nice man too.
A lovely boy in fact, Joolzy.
I hear he is a really nice ginger.....
If people like Dr. Starkey were on our screens more, we would have a more informed, learned and smarter country.
But hey, better get Strictly Come Dancing on!
There's a reason why he isn't seen more. The self-styled elite don't want us better informed and educated.
Very interesting, in Japan history generally seen as almost fiction. I like England so wanted to study science here, we hold English culture in high regard in Japan. Very sorry to see living here your people no longer seem to have freedom of speech, students afraid to be called racist. Excuse me just my impression.
Daisuke 大輔 what’s happening in the West is very different than Japanese society
Japan and Britain are two countries that both have very ancient cultures. They are also two countries that have a lot of involvement in the modern world. It's trying to balance both of these.
There is no need to excuse your impression. It is important that people can freely express how they think and feel. Someone viewing issues from the outside should be welcomed. When you are inside it is difficult to see the issues clearly. I am glad that you care enough to make a comment to me. Constructive criticism is health. Well given and well received observations mean that faults can be identified then things can be changed and grow strong again. I think that Japan treating history as fiction is quite sound. History does have facts but is the way we interpret these facts that make the stories we live by. I agree with your impression that here in England we feel afraid to speak freely. That is our strength and our weakness. I hope we are sensitive to people's needs and feelings. At present we do not know quite how to deal with the hurt other people feel because of some our past actions. I think we are a bit embarrassed. And a little ashamed. We are not able to change the past and we are not able to apologise because none of the people involved at the time are alive now. But thank you for speaking and please do not feel the need to apologise for a polite observation. (at least to me)
There's nothing wrong with your impression and no need to apologise. The western world is under a sustained threat which most of its citizens don't even know is happening. The message is getting through - slowly.
Never apologise for being honest enough to state that a problem exists. Only when the existence of a problem has been acknowledged is it possible to take steps to fix it.
I'm working class English so have no peer pressure to be politically correct. Our masters have long decided that we can be replaced. We are yet to truly resist that replacement.
I have to admit I’ve never been much of a fan of Starkey, but this interview was very enlightening. Some excellent points made, rather depressing re his views on the future of Brexit, but spot on with his dismantling of the political class of today and the last few decades.
The second I see the name David Starkey I liked
He nailed our BREXIT woes onto a tree for us all to see and understand.
Great interview.
No he didn't.
@@wisekraks- LOL~ Oh yes, he did!
Sorry, I presume we are doing a Panto skit here? ;P
@@PaulusAlone He didn't mention why a certain political class were pushing so hard for Brexit, and why they 'won'.
wisekraks - He mentioned it as old fashioned Conservatism mixed with the healthy nationalism of both rich and poor sectors of society.
If I recall he also nails much of the problem as being simple middle class snobbery and condescension towards the working classes ?
After Henry broke away from Rome, we had the reformation.
It’s time for a new reformation; Parliamentary reformation.
Restoration?
Mike Page That has occurred to me
Dr Starkey touches on this - albeit briefly. England had never had anything approaching Divine Right of Kings after Edward III, but Henry VIII exercised the Royal Prerogative to its fullest by means of Parliamentary sovereignty. When that Prerogative under James II threatened to undo Henry VIII's Reformation by reimposing a Catholic monarchy, the coup d'état that was the 1688 Glorious Revolution formalised Parliamentary sovereignty by means of the 1689 Bill of Rights, becoming the basis of a constitutional parliamentary monarchy: henceforth, parliament - with a nod towards primogeniture - would decide the religion of the monarch, not the monarch the religion of the nation and, ultimately, who would be monarch. The irony was that it was established by importing a foreign king - and Calvinist rather than Anglican - whose troops occupied London for over a year, camping in Hyde Park, in order to shore up the new régime. The long road to democracy was an evolutionary rather than revolutionary succession of reforms of that system by means of the Great Reform Acts widening the electoral base until universal suffrage was incorporated into the system and parliament and the emerging role of "prime minister" had fully usurped that Royal Prerogative. Dr Starkey alludes to the problem of popular sovereignty versus parliamentary: because what is now significant in the Leave campaign, is that not only has it become a question of re-establishing parliamentary sovereignty but, because of this present parliament's incapacity and unwillingness to deliver it, also a campaign to assert popular sovereignty over parliamentary. As Edward III realised that the English monarchy rested, ultimately, on a notional but historically "elected" monarch, he could rule in opposition to his barons but only successfully govern in collegiate co-operation with them. Today, parliament is refusing to acknowledge the popular will and seeks to rule over the people without acknowledging their electoral power. King versus Parliament has devolved into Parliament versus the People. Under a system of Parliamentary sovereignty, a referendum can only be morally binding as no Parliament can be bound by the decisions of its predecessors. It will be very interesting to see how this power struggle is played out. But I am not so pessimistic as Dr Starkey: for there is a discernible historical trend toward devolved power and this is where our present monarch has failed us. A new king, not frightened to intervene, may well discipline Parliament by championing the popular will in order to save his tottering throne. What irony.
Don’t worry the Corbinists plan to get rid of democracy entirely. It’s the only way they could ever create a new communist state.
Like the non-elected head of state, and the House of Lords which consists of hereditary peers (with no voting rights) and life peers who are more often than not retired politicians. The only country with a larger second chamber is China (for pretty obvious reasons).
We need this man to write us a British Constitution affirming our ancient liberties, foremost among them, a positive right to free speech
I think you'll find that, if he did write a constitution, it would be an English one.
@@saddoncarrs6963 Why would that be the case?
@dislike injustice I'm not sure I have confused Britain with England or that Mr Starkey is promoting anything
Aka "I get to say inane racist shit to whoever I like, whenever I like"
Back under your rock.
hypercatjohn but who decides what is racist? Talking of rocks... never heard of sticks and stones? Most 5 year olds are able to understand that lol...
Wonderful Interview. Starkey an absolute treasure.
The engaging David Starkey . Thank you for the fabulously interesting guests on your videos.
I would have liked to have heard David's opinion of the present team of Civil Servants .
Would probably have melted our computers.
Honesty and factual David Starkey shows no quarter for those elites whose policies have sought to destroy the UK & western civilisation.
Peter Mandelson......Blair's groom of the stool, lmao!! You gotta love David Starkey!
A quote to remember , I think.
Another laugh out loud moment.
@@brianrodney712 A phrase to be used in the company of certain people!
@@bunkerbill I CERTAINLY DID, AND MADE THE DOG JUMP UP.
In Epstein's black book ten times according to Galloway
As a child I spent most of it from the age of 8 in hospital with leg troubles. Education was zero., everything learned from observation of life. Thank you so much for this most interesting History lesson! Very grateful for your video... and to your wonderfully articulate guest.
This is wonderful. Just to able to sit and listen to him when he's not being baited on some political panel show. I love history anyway but Starkey's genius is the way he interveaves the past with the present.
top notch stuff. Thank you Peter, for bringing us nearly an hour of uninterrupted D. Starkey.
Superb! Just adore Dr. Starkey.
"Obfuscation is part of the package." Intellectualism skewered brilliantly!
This should be good, I really respect Dr David and his opinions!!
Love this guy. David Starkey's Monarchy is one of the best TV programmes on our history. We have so much bias and rewriting of history from BBC "historians" now.
Those who thought it was going to be good, you were not wrong, as ever speaking truth unto truth.
Excellent interview. So informative. I would advise everyone, no matter what their politics are, to watch this.
What a pleasure to watch.
Thoroughly enjoyable and thought provoking.
The belief and trust in the politicians started to erode when Ted Heath was blackmailed into taking the country into the EU(EEC) and has continually escalated with every successive Government since, culminating with this current malaise!
Superb interview with the great Dr David.. Much missed from our airwaves these days for stating the truth.. Perhaps one of the last great academics the west will see.
I knew this was going to be great... so much information, I think I will be watching this a few times to grasp all the detail. Exceptional, Peter !
Great stuff,49 minutes of my time well spent, keep up the good work
What ever happened to the English,, will be a question asked in the not too distant future.
Russian Bot=1: Hush you're open to being accused of racism by mention of the English as a nation in their own right. British is the only national identity the rampant Left will accept - and if you can abbreviate it further to the pejorative term `Brits' they're even happier.
It's no longer allowed to promote being English.....
It's OK to be English
@@hello2you430 too true
Portly 24 but also British is impossible when an independent Scotland with its fake myth of Gaelic being an important language, of Welsh cultural identity, of the the independence of Ireland. Why can’t England get the same treatment?
Splendid discussion piece, thank you both.
Marvellous, this is an excellent series of interviews, although you'll have trouble topping this one.
Great interview.. Depressing, but very good none the less
Thank you both. I have learned so much.
There have been some great interviews and guests on this channel. Thanks Peter, keep it up.
Excellent guest, thank you.Hope he returns.
Goodness me. One of the most invigorating interviews I have heard. Wonderful intelligence, sparkling humour, educative ... great stuff.
David Bell from America:
This gentleman is brilliant. This is delightful to listen to. The man is Britain’s aquarian. He speaks in lucid clarity and absolute assuredness, and properly humble.
You are all in our thoughts here, we hope you are Great Britain again in November 2019.
TRUMP2020
The welcoming quality of Britain was not in an era when population replacement was the policy.
Centurion Bercow. That was the first big guffaw.
These interviews are excellent~ I am baffled why your subscriber count has not skyrocketed. Thank you.
Very interesting- Thank you.
From Brazil to UK. What a marvellows class. What a wonderfull teacher. I am a student of History and just loved what I heard. Thank you very much. My best professor ever was a British national at the University here in Brazil.
There's a stretch of water between England and Europe... and it's there for a reason....
The melting of historic ice caps and continental shelf movements?
That was silly comment, sorry to say.
I watched Mr. Starkeys lecture last year at Breacon.. very good it was too.
This is going to be good
Starkey tells it like it is, unfortunately Britain is heading down a slippery slope!
But will more desperatewomen be available
Denise Bond don’t know about Civil war but definitely Civil unrest
"Sociology... the moment you translate it, it becomes an absurdity." Love that; so, so true.
Thanks for sorting out the audio balance. And wow - what an excellent interview even by your own high standards. My abiding memory of old Starkers has always been him eloquently and succinctly putting the boot into Blair and Cameron so I was delighted to hear him reprise these greatest of hits with customary verve. Not only that; as a stated conservative, he had the integrity to make the distinction, "New Labour" (Non-Labour). Being a committed socialist, that means a lot to me. His opinions on Jeremy Corbyn are fair game, I wouldn't begrudge him that even if I possibly wouldn't entirely acquiesce.
Also, Prof. Starkers's insights on the state of education maybe converge with an old hobby horse of mine. The ritual vandalism of the frameworks for logic which were assiduously mapped out in the crucible of civilisation is analogous with the EU's ritual neglect of its Mediterranean satellites. I flatter myself that I share his perspective as a fellow un-dedicated mathematician. I was once actually singled out in maths class ... hang on, I must get this right, the fellow who incidentally sat next to me in maths was afforded the same distinction. I, we, was / were once actually ... erm ... doubled out in maths class - when the head of year dropped in unannounced to deliver a commendation to the whole class proposed by our maths teacher - for exemption. True story. And neither of us were at all perturbed, to say the least.
Anyway, yes, Peter and David, thank you, a most engaging almost-hour that was.
even remainers must be shocked at the audacity of the establishment to be denying Brexitus
Surely, you must be right but unfortunately, I think not.
Your commoner who voted in good faith even if misguided. But not the vipers in Westminster.
@English Teacher The EU has its problems - corruption, unaccoutability, financial difficulties, an unpopular immigration policy, the rise of populist movements - the list goes on. But it is not an empire. It is more a family of nations which have not been at war with each other for some 74 years (something of a record), where people are getting on with their lives, trading freely with each other, moving around freely, using largely the same currency and so on. Certainly, the EU ain't perfect, but the present system is far, far better than returning to a divisive past when excessive bureaucracy, the odd street riot and over-leveraged banks were the least of their problems.
@English Teacher I'll pass.
@@saddoncarrs6963 The assumption there is that the EU has prevented conflict in Europe. Whilst it has played a part there are too many other factors to consider before you can credit the EU with this accomplishment. In addition, the EU in it's current evolved form definitely cannot be credited for that time span.
The EU in its current form, with its recent track record, could easily end up, like all previous attempts to unite Europe under one political union, as being written in history as a catalyst for conflict.
I could not have agreed more with what Mr Starkey said. We need a more forcible rebuffing of the last 60 years of indoctrination.
*400 years*
I listen very closely to everything Dr. Starkey has to say. It's excellent, admirable and informative. To attempt to silence such a man on the altar of wokedom is a disgrace.
Thank you Peter/David, been looking forward to this for the past couple of days.
The biggest danger to UK history is cultural Marxism which teaches all history is the same and equal. In other words a black Afro running around with a spear in the jungle has the same, and equal rights to historical recognition, as Einstein discovering his Theory of Relativity. And if you challenge this new-world view you are accused of being a racist, a Nazi, a right-wing bigot......and a Fascist.
You know that 'cultural marxism' comes from the nazi 'cultural bolshevism'?
Yes. It's a similar thing, accurately described by Yuri Bezmenov in the eighties.
I agree, its like comparing the black US women who wrote the maths to put man on the moon and the white UK soccer yobs running around wrecking drunken havoc while following the England football team on the European continent.
Haat Praat. Yes. It's like comparing an absurd Hollywood movie to occasional sporting enthusiasm. The similarity is in the propaganda and the kind of people who fall for it.
Hint - Wakanda isn't real. Detroit is.
Well the term "cultural marxist"was coined by a fascist.If the cap fits.....
I think they both recognize our decline and our destiny but won't admit it to each other, I am a simple man but clearly see our future is not clear with the introduction of Islam to these shores, racism is top of the agenda and minority rights an everyday headline, depressing if you ask me.
What we are going through will either herald a renaissance of British identity and self confidence or the final destruction of the uk and it's descent into Islamic hell and left wing self loathing. Unfortunately I think the latter is more likely.
If Brexit fails, Tony Blair was be regarded as the founder of the new Britain, until, of course it is superseded by Islamic Britain.
Elites always think they can do this,
@@mogznwaz I agree that Britain, and England in particular, is at this terrible crossroads however all people, whether Christian, Buddhist, Islamic, atheist, humanist etc. at their heart, want freedom. Therefore I am not ready to give up. "Come the world against her, England yet shall stand."
Very insightful comment, beautifully put 👏👏👏
Excellent i enjoyed this so much.
Absolutely excellent interviews, Peter. Thank you. And thank you Dr David Starkey, for such insight.
I could listen to Starkey talk for hours.
Superb, thank you gentlemen !
Exceptionally good interview, exceptionally good. And I watch an inordinate amount of TH-cam.
I can listen to David Starkey any time - excellent
I didn’t appreciate David Starkey in the past but I’ve come to my senses in the past few years. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
This is quite possibly the best interview of 2019 and we're only in May (!) Well done Peter-very informative, inquisitive and illuminating. Thank you.
Also, may I suggest you contact Douglas Murray and get him on as soon as possible.
Simon yes Douglas Murray would be awesome
@@abigailslade3824 It really would be. You could both agree the hell out of him.
Well done, both; another engrossing, thought-provoking interview. Peter, may I respectfully suggest Kevin Myers as a future guest?
By far the most illuminating take on Brexit I've heard. Fascinating stuff.
One of the best interviews I have ever seen, maybe since David Frost interviewed Enoch Powell in about 1968! I am a huge fan of Starkey as I have loved history especially English history since I was a young teenager, even though I worked as an engineer all my life, all my reading has been of a historical nature.
"Political positons have become religious." - THIS
That's always been the case in this country, ALWAYS. People treat politics as though it's football. They bypass policies for party preference - I've had life long Conservative voters tell me they absolutely disagree with the policies, but will still vote for them anyway. Ridiculous. And people think the youth are the problem?
@@Soulrollsdeep
Some people treat politics like religion, not all people. Idealogues have always been part of the political landscape. Their passionately held beliefs and their very single mindedness often allows them to achieve disproportionate power relative to their prevalence in the population. Hence the political elite which is now so badly out of tune with the general mood of the country on so many issues.
Has it occured to you that your Conservative friends were simply voting for what they saw as the lesser of two evils?
I don't think young people are necessarily the problem, but neither do I think they are the font of all wisdom either.
Yes I agree!
Perhaps the term 'Arrogant Classes' describes better what we now term the Liberal Elite? Think about it? The term Progressive is to say that one knows better than the accumulated wisdom of our ancestors. E.g. Blair.
And more latterly, C. Umunna
“Progressive” is a euphemism for communist, utilised in the US.
Alastair Campbell was the real power behind that throne
David Warwicker
Actually the more I think about it the more I like the term ‘the Arrogant Classes’
David Warwicker definitely arrogant in their belief that they know better than everyone else. The number of times we’ve been told that we didn’t understand what we voted for is unbelievable. The leftists are certainly not liberal. They’re the least liberal people around seeing as they only believe in freedom of speech as long as you don’t say something they don’t like. They won’t recognise the validity of any opinion that varies from their own even if it means going against the will of the people.
We need a David Starkey in every school.
The best conversation so far in my opinion. Thank you Dr. Starkey, and thank you New Culture Forum for airing it.
Before: Awesome! Looking forward to this! Will I be dissapointed - let's see...
After: Awesome!
A must see of David Starkey's is his Magna Carta discussion. Where he calls out Rory Stuart, as a leftist in the Conservative Party. I can't believe Stuart is running for Prime Minister, and if not that the front benches, appalling in my opinion.
Dr Starkey is a top man and first class historian , it was nice to hear him talk of Igham mote,, i known its one of his favourite places as it is mine.
Truly exceptional.
We should be educating our youth about the greatness of our nation past triumphs no guilt just pride
Really enjoying hearing people speak outside the tunnel vision of the MSM.
Subscribed.
Fantastic interview! Refreshingly candid articulation of the truth. Thank you!
What a brilliant man. I could listen to him all day. 😊
I thought Starkey was wearing a Euro tie for a moment ! Nearly had a ticker attack.
Totally fascinating
David Starkey possesses the delicious combination of brilliance, dissension and a wicked sense of humour. A wonderful conversation.
*Such an intelligent gentleman, in the true sense of both of those words. I could listen to him talking about politics for hours on end. Sadly, erudite speakers like Dr Starkey are as rare as hens teeth in our society these days. I just wish we had a lot more like him. Thank you for this upload, along with all the others. You and your guests are the antithesis of the Cathy Newman's and Victoria Derbyshire's of this world. Needless to say that I have subscribed, and shall enjoy looking back at your previous programmes over the next few weekends. A sort of **_'boxed set bonanza'_** of refreshingly intelligent political discussion. A rare thing indeed!*
For me, the essence of Englishness is Elizabeth I. Quite possibly the greatest and most important women (and Monarch for that matter) that has ever existed.
Sorry, but I don't agree. Elizabeth's Grand Father Henry VII had a very Tenuous claim to the throne. Her Father Henry VIII spent six marriages & caused great social upheaval trying to secure the tudor dynasty's future. A monarch's first duty is to secure the succession, something she failed miserably to do. This then led directly to James I & then Charles I & the civil wars, wars that caused great divisions & a higher casualty rate, as a percentage, than even the first world war. Not a very good legacy in my opinion.
Michael Rex ok firstly , Henry VII’s “tenuous claim” is irrelevant here because Crown by Right of Conquest was seen by those people as equally legitimate. And secondly the monarchs first job isn’t to provide an heir. Their first job is to provide peace and stability for the kingdom God chose them to rule over and that Elizabeth did. Elizabeth also had her own , valid psychological reasons for not naming her successor. And it doesn’t matter anyway because the 1603 succession of James I was peaceful , and he was welcomed by the English. His failures as a king and the failures of Charles I were not Elizabeth’s doing. That is an absurd reach. Monarchy was personal. How successful your reign was , was up to you as an individual. Elizabeth was a smart, wise person who knew how to do her job as queen. James autocratic tendencies and the massive failures of Charles I were their own fault because they did/could/would not understand the difference between monarchy in England and elsewhere specifically France.