There’s a significant difference between having a New Zealand passport and wanting to earn more money, versus wanting a New Zealand passport and being willing to accept lower pay to obtain citizenship and its benefits. This situation benefits employers and disadvantages workers. Also, this proposal differs greatly from Shamubeel's. Additionally, I believe he is mistaken about the competency of immigrants; the majority lack the skills required by the country and are untrained for sophisticated roles.
@@JimBob-di1fu Our country desperately needs doctors - only 0.08% are doctors. We desperately need chemical engineers, biotech researchers, physiotherapists, physics and math teachers (who can speak English) - the list is long. One thing you may need to appreciate is that a majority of our immigrants are through the "family reunification" program and that is the sole basis for their immigration status. While I appreciate the need for family support - these people also need to be supported by the State e.g., parents who are 55+... or children regarding schooling and so on. The ration of "productive immigrant" to associates e.g., spouses, family and extended family is almost 1 to 6 i.e., for every productive immigrant you get 6 unproductive...
@@hariseldon3786 On the face of it we need more doctors, but we dont have a shortage of doctors, we have a shortage of positions for doctors. We could import or train a thousand doctors but if the health system isnt hiring we would still be short. Much the same for the other occupations you mention. Why do you think the majority of emigrants from NZ are skilled and educated ? By productive immigrant I presume you mean a taxpaying immigrant ? where do you get the data for this 1 to 6 ratio of productive to unproductive from?
@@JimBob-di1fu We do have a shortage of doctors. Just ask Dr Bryan Betty - Chair of GPNZ - who was on The Platform just a few days ago. And my answer to your second question goes back to my original thesis - people who already have a NZ passport can go overseas and get a higher paying role bc they can automatically come back if they so feel. Whereas a person who wants a NZ passport will come in on that basis and therefore be willing to compromise their employment characteristics. It is self-evident that on average our emigrants are of a higher educational or skill basis as NZ itself on average is just that - particularly compared to the countries from which we are souring the majority of our immigrants e.g., China, India and the Philippines. Regarding the ratios 1) I have a friend who is a senior in NZ immigration 2) the ration for the UK is a published 1/6 3) the ratio for the US is 1/9 (published) --- so, even erring on the side of great caution I am correct, As well, I teach English as a Second Language on a contract basis and I meet with the schools and the pupils and as such have empirical, 1st hand, experience. I am presuming we can now drop this topic.
Wellington has always had a false economy. Economic growth was based on high paid, guaranteed, public sector jobs. Now that's no longer the case, we are finally getting to see the real Wellington economy which doesn't offer much.
this is the guy who suggested for people not to buy a house for over a decade while house prices soared then he bought one at the peak and said I bought it for the stability of my family I would listen to a word this guy says...he is the definition of a shill
50% of Wellington’s office space is government departments.
Bob Jones, happy.
Wellington region expands out up through the Wairarapa....Masterton and Carterton...now also have water issues.
Funny that!….who would have thought.
Grifters with their hands in everyone’s pockets or tax breaks for their friends.
Some people in the "Public Service" are actually "doing their "jobs" from Queensland...
One saving grace for Wellington is it's old money. That'll see it through to better times. Still a great old city.
There’s a significant difference between having a New Zealand passport and wanting to earn more money, versus wanting a New Zealand passport and being willing to accept lower pay to obtain citizenship and its benefits. This situation benefits employers and disadvantages workers. Also, this proposal differs greatly from Shamubeel's. Additionally, I believe he is mistaken about the competency of immigrants; the majority lack the skills required by the country and are untrained for sophisticated roles.
"the majority lack the skills required by the country and are untrained for sophisticated roles" can you give examples?
@@JimBob-di1fu Our country desperately needs doctors - only 0.08% are doctors. We desperately need chemical engineers, biotech researchers, physiotherapists, physics and math teachers (who can speak English) - the list is long. One thing you may need to appreciate is that a majority of our immigrants are through the "family reunification" program and that is the sole basis for their immigration status. While I appreciate the need for family support - these people also need to be supported by the State e.g., parents who are 55+... or children regarding schooling and so on. The ration of "productive immigrant" to associates e.g., spouses, family and extended family is almost 1 to 6 i.e., for every productive immigrant you get 6 unproductive...
@@hariseldon3786 On the face of it we need more doctors, but we dont have a shortage of doctors, we have a shortage of positions for doctors. We could import or train a thousand doctors but if the health system isnt hiring we would still be short. Much the same for the other occupations you mention. Why do you think the majority of emigrants from NZ are skilled and educated ? By productive immigrant I presume you mean a taxpaying immigrant ? where do you get the data for this 1 to 6 ratio of productive to unproductive from?
@@JimBob-di1fu We do have a shortage of doctors. Just ask Dr Bryan Betty - Chair of GPNZ - who was on The Platform just a few days ago. And my answer to your second question goes back to my original thesis - people who already have a NZ passport can go overseas and get a higher paying role bc they can automatically come back if they so feel. Whereas a person who wants a NZ passport will come in on that basis and therefore be willing to compromise their employment characteristics. It is self-evident that on average our emigrants are of a higher educational or skill basis as NZ itself on average is just that - particularly compared to the countries from which we are souring the majority of our immigrants e.g., China, India and the Philippines. Regarding the ratios 1) I have a friend who is a senior in NZ immigration 2) the ration for the UK is a published 1/6 3) the ratio for the US is 1/9 (published) --- so, even erring on the side of great caution I am correct, As well, I teach English as a Second Language on a contract basis and I meet with the schools and the pupils and as such have empirical, 1st hand, experience. I am presuming we can now drop this topic.
@@hariseldon3786 of course we can drop this topic. Its obvious the last thing you need is your view to be challenged.
Stop with the Immigration start with the proper supervised apprenticeships
At least accept only the very best people. New Zealand has plenty of home grown unqualified people. We do not need more of these from the third world.
Maori youth don;t want to work
Wellington has always had a false economy. Economic growth was based on high paid, guaranteed, public sector jobs. Now that's no longer the case, we are finally getting to see the real Wellington economy which doesn't offer much.
Shamubeel is the best economic commentator in NZ by a country mile
Wish we could have him in Bangladesh. We are suffering without an Economic Adviser.
He is a lightweight. Never discusses productivity or how to get manufacturing and innovation up and running etc
Hell no.
Left and woke.
@@dd2451just because someone is brown doesn’t make them left and woke you idiot.
this is the guy who suggested for people not to buy a house for over a decade while house prices soared then he bought one at the peak and said I bought it for the stability of my family I would listen to a word this guy says...he is the definition of a shill