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Rigol DHO800 Oscilloscope Size Comparison - WOW!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ส.ค. 2023
- A size comparison of the new 12bit $329 entry level Rigol DHO800 to other scopes, WOW!
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In my last workshop I had a scope on a moveable arm that sat about 12" off the bench that I could move around easily.......this new Rigol scope is screaming to do the same in my current workshop!
I'm thinking of doing the same.
Great idea. Anyone found a small moveable arm with a VESA mount that still allows good airflow out the back of the scope? It is so light it doesn't need a big monitor arm
Maybe better to utilise the HDMI output and use a large screen monitor mounted on the wall the see the scope.
Looks like another fine DSO for me to buy and place on the shelf next to the other ones that I've almost never used... must... resist.
Stop kidding yourself
You know THE THIRST always wins in the end
LOL
DHO 802 70 mhz 2 channel $329
" 804 70 mhz 4 channel $389
" 812 100 mhz 2 channel $389
" 814 100 mhz 4 channel $459 (500 uv vertical, FFT max 1Mpts).
Mount to bench with a proper articulating arm ( which will cost at least a fourth of the scope's cost!) and you have a nifty rig
Good one, Dave!
Thanks for this ❤
my problem with them is they only go up to 100MHz for the top model
@@martinkuliza then checkout DHO900 series. Thats almost the same, but with up to 250 MHz bandwidth, logic analyzer, arb. gen. and some more decoding options.
@@norbert.kiszka
Already have, The thing is, I already have 4 or 5 Scopes
so Until they die i likely won't be upgarding
I have a BWD, KIKUSUI , Rigol DS2000A, Rigol MSO5000, Hantek
Can't wait for 32" TV with built-in oscilloscope
why only 32" ?
Probably out of China with an advertised bandwith of 1 Terabyte giving up on 10 kHz ?
5:46 The first test "signal" was self-generated microphonic wiggles from tapping it in various places.
Arew BandWidth hack details available already?
I was just about to order a Siglent SDS1104 and saw this come up. My finger stopped hovering over the 'place order now' button and now I eagerly await the reviews of this little beauty
I remember when those digital scopes first came out and was enthralled by the fact that they were the front few inches of the old CRT based scopes. It was such a cool tech advancement.
I take it that new scope has an external laptop brick like supply ? That would certainly account for the depth difference with the Siglent
Yes, USB-C power brick
At first I thought this was yet another $1k scope, then I looked at the price… wow, same price range as the DS1054Z with significantly better specs!
Yep, but not exactly. Amount of software bugs in DHO800/DHO900 are incredible.
Its a tiddler. I don't have much bench space so it'd be ideal for me. Nice looking scope.
Really pleased to see that the displayed waveform stretches right across the screen width. Something that always annoyed me about the DS1000 series is the left and right menus that take up screen space and can't be removed, the main reason why I got a Siglent SDS1104 instead, which at least doesn't have a left-hand menu. Very tempted by this little thing, not that I need another scope!
Just amazing! can't believe a 4channel 12bit oscilloscope for $330 USD
These are good times for young people to jump into electronics. My Tektronix 465B was $20,000 US when I was drooling over it. My dad was chief of bomber branch in the air force, my mom worked at the base exchange and babysat to help make ends meet, I bagged groceries at the commissary and swept mopped and buffed floors at base HQ. My mom n dad called me into the kitchen one evening and asked me how badly do I want that oscilloscope. I said "Bad enough to eat my Atari for one!" They made me empty my $1,200 bank account...and it was already on my bench, they just told me to go down there and look. My grandfatehr, who was a retired engineer had alot to do with this. All I know is that this was the most expensive thing I'd ever seen our family buy up to that point. I was told I will do well in engineering school and I will become an engineer. We all worked very hard for it and I did see some sacrifice to get it onto the bench. I let NOBODY down. It's sitting two feet from me right now. Over 40 years old. I gotta fix it's screwy DM 44.
No it doesn’t cost that it starts 2ch 70Mhz is at that price
Standing by. for suggestions for the moveable arm. Yes, it will quickly find a home on my bench once released.
I think Rigol is responding to the significant increase in sales of models like the Fnirsi 1014d. They are not good, but they serve the hobbyist and in simple applications like there is a signal or not. This is a quality option for this market I think. A cool idea would be a video comparing these two. Fnirsi and this one to see the difference (or not) 😂of these instruments.
Almost all Finirsi have FAKE BW. specs, three times the real, and its specs are missing too many details.
@@paulcohen1555 I agree with you.
@@paulcohen1555 and priced one 6th of what a fluke or R&S would sell for. I dont disagree with you but they do serve a need in the market.
Loved the MXO4 size comparison :)
Dave's lifting a lotta weight in this video. Nice work-out. Thanks for sharing ;) His collection of Oscilloscopes is just awesome! Wow. The big-ass Rohde & Schwartz is massive but a beauty.
HOW MANY SCOPES does one man need ?!😂😂
Who has the most ....
Dave, Mr Carlson or Signalpath ? 😂
By weight, Mr. Carlson is winning.
By Bandwidth, THS The Signal Path, is the champion, of course.
How many ? One more than he's got ..
I could see it tipping over easily just sitting on a desk, but vesa mount is cool. 70 MHz is nothing to scream about, but looks alright for the price. Let's see the in depth review.
Well, the Rohde & Schwarz MXO4-BNDL was just on sale, only 20k €...
4:30 the scope she tells you not to worry about..
If they are shrinking the screen size that is a huge turn off for me. Look forward to review.
Standard entry level 7", but it's high res.
Ahaa, thanks! It just looked teeny against those beefy scopes @@EEVblog2 👍
Cute unit, so to say. It is pity they all don't provide the front cover for the instruments. At work we have couple of big Tek MSO4000 series scopes with the front cover, I really appreciate it. The front of the instrument, including the knobs and the screen, is the most venerable part of it. Why not provide a simple piece of dedicated plastic to cover it, especially during the transport and going to a site. When on the bench, you can use the cover to put the probes and 'what-not's' in it. My old 2445 also has a nice cover. Even if the small Rigol is not as expensive as the Tek, why not treat it right. Other thing that would be interesting for this small unit is to develop a 'Snap-On' battery back-pack for it. Sometimes there is the need to make some measurements floating or maybe in the field. Being so small it probably even doesn't use much power, I suppose. So yeah, cute, cheap, 12-bit. Winner winner
Very cool… I'm interested to see how the FFT performs.
The 1054Z is basically useless and that's what I'm using now.... But so far it has served my amateur needs in most areas.
I'd be surprised if it's not better than the DS1054Z
FFT on these have a max of 1 Mpt/s
Seriously Dave, you gave me a very hard choice. Now I have to choose between DHO1000 series or a nice watch.
Looks very nice.
But I wonder if depth really is an issue if it sits on a bench or shelf next to the signal generator and lab power supply.
The small width is more an advantage.
12 bit sure is the future!
It matters when you have probes coming out the front.
What's more important - sample rate or bit depth? Seems like the Siglent SDS1104X-E still has the upper hand with 2 ADC chips that can do 2 channels at 1G vs Rigols 625M (or 4 @ 500M vs 4 @ 3125M) ?
My gut instinct says yes, 12 bits is better than 8, but it's amusing how until the last year or two everyone was claiming that 8 bits was plenty for this tier scope.
For between $300, (and $500+ for the DHO814 you show,) I don't want a tiny screen on my scope.
you're getting real old too eh
That is one beautiful scope..!!!
ah bugger I just bought the 1054Z a few months ago :(
Sell it before people realise this one is out!
Your not wrong dave very cute dave
It's inconveniently small for a bench scope. Especially the screen.
I agree!
But the HDMI output saves it. Just plug into a ~24" $100 touch-screen monitor.
I'm diggin' that VESA mount!
Dave, please do an EEVBLOG-blue version of the DHO924S?
Merci, you have a nice collection!😂
I wish I could afford a nice-ish low to mid grade Oscilloscope.. I think you've done plenty of reviews and comparisons so ignore me if its not in your interest. I'm on a real tight budget single income for a family of four. So like 200USD would be max I feel like I could shell out for a hobby I'd really love to dive deeper into to. Just a suggestion. Have a good one Dave.
What can I do with it? Never used one but have always wanted one as they always look good. Probably because used by people like Dave who know what they are doing.
I'm still waiting for the watch size to buy.
And based on android and hackable with many reporting up to 250 mhz with 50 msam
screen size and resolution for these old guy eyes
I need to see an in depth review. I am going to buy one anyway.
If you're going to buy one anyway then why do you need to see an indept review?
@@Okurka. Because he goes into details and will disassemble it. I don't want to do that with a piece of equipment I just bought.
@@Okurka. have you not watched his reviews before?
When she says size doesn’t matter. It’s how you use it 😉
don't you think that putting "WOW!" on the thumbnail and into the title is a bit clickbaity?
Be glad he didn't put World's First in the title.
Yes, sue me.
Smaller isn't necessarily better, the controls are more cramped as a result. It does look nice though. If it has a fan, how loud is it? Will it run off 12V etc. Can you use the buttons and touch screen without it falling over?
I don't like the fact that the fan is not a standard one. So when it breaks, say bye-bye to your little device.
Why'd they change it? I don't know. Maybe they liked it better that way?
Hach? Atch in my USA, Dave!
🎉And the Rigol fanboys go wild!❤❤❤❤
DC power supply? No problem connecting the probe to mains? I cannot really see the power cable.
How does this pair with a portable monitor? You can pick up a 4k "portable" USB-C powered monitor for a few hundred dollars these days - around the price of the scope, maybe, but you can instantly quadruple your screen area. I've got a 15 incher but it only takes USB-C video, which I doubt the scope puts out, but maybe an adapter could work?
This looks perfect for all the firmware engineers at work who just want to debug the configuration of MCU peripherals.
this new scope have a slow data logger (saving data on usb stick) and Bode diagram features, like Siglent ones ?
What’s the betting this will be at least 2.5 times the price of the DS1052E in the U.K. ?
I want one!
does the noise floor do the 12 bit justice?
When you say someone already hacked it, what does that mean? I did a quick search on the forum but not see anything related to hacking
chill man
If I water it regularly, will it still grow? 😂
Xmas wish sorted!
You forgot to compare it to the Rigole MS05074 lol ... So do you think the 8 gigabyte per second is dead ?
I love the huge screen on my Agilent 7000 DSO. Probably similar to that sweet R&S. Of course, most of these little scopes can have an external monitor - I'd be interested to see how that works out, maybe it gets a bit chunky-pixelled. 12 bit kind of pointless on such a small screen but ought to give better FFTs .. does it ? Looking forward to the full review.
IMHO 12 bit even on 7 inch is not pointless. Especially on single shots and zoom in. Also You can connect external monitor via HDMI.
4:57 yeah,.... that'd be ball park $38,000 for the MXO4
and i'll share an internal conflict
i really really really want a Rohde and Shwarz Ohh how i do LOL
I also can afford it which makes it worse
My problem is... I can't justify it other than the name.
when you compare apples to apples and practicality , it's not justifiable
but......... I WANT ONE LOL
A real beauty
No Tek 465 or something for comparison? Tsk tsk.. 🤦♀
I like it 👍
The MXO 4 looks like a microwave oven.
Dave, why do you need so many oscilloscopes???
Doctor, give me some pills for greed.
Yes more.. more..
🤣😂
I would like a replacement for my Rigol 1052D.... looking for a 4CH... maybe this could be it?
Does the famous "cheat code generator" work with the new Rigol's for unhiding additional features?
Very likely. 12bit is the killer. Although there is the DHO900 as well which is mixed signal.
I just purchased Siglent SDS1104X-E , should i cancel it?
The SDS1104X-E is a fine scope and has been proven reliable. These new Rigols are about the same price when you factor bandwidth. And the Siglent has 2 ADC's vs Rigol's 1, which means better sampling when using multiple channels. Personally, I think sampling rate is more important than bit depth at this level of gear. The Siglent offers options like Bode Plot, AWG and LA hardware that you can't get on the Rigol. Finally, the Rigol is a brand new product and they don't exactly have a great reputation for addressing firmware issues quickly - I'd hesitate top purchase one until a few reviews prove it out.
Yeah that mxo44 will set you back $13,970 AUD
Quick question - which one buy, regarding specs and features, not size - DHO800 or Siglent SDS1104x-e?
No contest, DHO800, 12 bit vs 8bit.
@@EEVblog2 Ok, 12 bit sounds great but what about software, features, number of serial decoders etc
@@MateuszJagocha ya want him to buy it for you too ?
@@TrueAudio oh come on, you know Dave got them all and used them all so he will know which one of those is most user friendly and most usable. I'm waiting for full review.
@@MateuszJagocha yup that's what you, always i'd bet, let someone else do your dirty work
How many REAL BITS its (chinese) ADC have?
When will Rigol release a multimeter?
They have a bench multimeter
@@EEVblog2 I was talking about a new model with a large color display
USB-C powered, so just get a decently chonky power bank and it's portable. Sweet.
not for one or the other but I like them all!!!!
because what I have here are two big fat ones!
and even worse, both of them are no longer 100% good.
Healthy and Friendly Greetings from the Netherlands!
Rob
I'd see your doctor about those two big fat ones.
*Nether Regions
The R&H MXO 4 series doesn't really fit to my wallet either.
I’m lucky that I was able to get an MXO 4 at work!
Very thin...But is it worth the $? Probably not.
.....size comparison?
Showing off your thousand scopes...
yeah, i'm jealous too
Time to replace the 1052e? Nahhhhh
Mmmm. Wonderful gatekeeping. Okay, I visited your website, happy now?
Can I now give you the YT view? Ridiculous
Then don't do it. I've been putting exclusive content on other platforms for years now, nothing new.
Unboxing: th-cam.com/video/gpnwP0M0QMs/w-d-xo.html
2:32 WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT !!!!
Under the Outta Time Licence Plate
what is that ?
2 rats passed by or... what the fuck is that
How is it possible to connect the earth with a banana/banana cable? This scope looks to be dangerous.
There's an earthing point on the back
Well, that kick worked out really well for you! Not.
Thinner because the power supply is external, duh.
D'ho !!! (well, almost)
It's kind of pointless as a desktop scope. it needs a built-in BATTERY to make it a portable 'go anywhere' scope.
It is USB-C powered so you can use it with a power bank to be battery powered.
And you lose the USB data interface if you use it as power source - and who wants to deal with a heavy power brick to take with you everywhere. When they were designing this scope they clearly forgot to define the main purpose of this scope.
@@NICK-uy3nl Who would use the USB interface when being used as a portable scope? You have LAN anyway..
portability. you don't want to carry a mini router or deal with cross over cables when you use it outside
Shutup and take my money!!
dh-c.u.t.3 mini hdmi 💩
Why do you have sooooo many oscilloscopes? At this point, I think it's a sign of diogenes syndrome kicking in.
Why not post content on youtube ? ☹️
I want to promote my website more. I've been posting exclusive content on other platforms for years.
@@EEVblog2 understand but i am way too lazy to go off youtube.... sorry 😂
@@EEVblog2 Quantity over quality coming to your forum in a jiffy.
Why are the buttons always on the right side? Once again we left handed players are discriminated against 😮
Why is the touchscreen always on the left side? Once again we right handed players are discriminated against 😮
@@Okurka. 🙂 Maybe they should go back to the 40’s style where the screen was on top and all the knobs and stuff were below. Then we wouldn’t constantly be reaching over and blocking stuff.
gees, all you lefties really gotta get a life man
I think Yokogawa’s portrait format (screen on top, controls in the middle, jacks on the bottom) needs to catch on a lot more.
I hate this form factor sooooo much .... I love the old one which depth dimension is longer than width and height ... Industry goes sh--t wrong people ...
i have an old 1950s model for 50 bucks if you wish
@@TrueAudio No Sir , I didn't say old instruments like that age but maybe 70's and newer ...
Time for an upgrade from 1054-z going to fit on my work bench better @EEVblog2 I need a tshirt 8bit is dead!!!
but can it run DOOM ?
No doubt.
rigol is a bad product. siglent quality