I saved my paper round wages and tips up for what seemed like an eternity to be able to afford an Amiga 1200 (£400). Needless to say that it was worth every rainy morning trudging down Ash Grove with a heavy bag slung over my shoulder. My favourite games were Frontier Elite, Populous II, Microprose F1 and Syndicate.
@@itsaPIXELthing it really was night and day - but the funny thing is that it's still the Speccy that's my gaming first, and true, love. The system had it's limitations, but for me it defined the 1980s. I still play Manic Miner, Atic Atac and Chuckie Egg to this day.
I went from a 48K Speccy to a C128D, and eventually to an A500, and was mighty impressed with those upgrades, but these days I’m more fond of the Spectrum and the C64 games. Nostalgia is a funny thing
Got that bad boy on CD32 off of a cover CD amazing game played it more than any retail game i had except for Alien Breed Tower Assault the FMV and AGA GFX were excellent on that game.
@@jackburton8352 Wish I still had my CD32. Simon the Sorcerer was the first talkie I played, just a shame there weren't more on the CD32. I also loved the FMVs on the Alien Breed as well. I remember a magazine saying they were a cross between Alien (?) and Emmerdale 😆
I've always wondered what games came out on the 1200 besides the upgraded titles. Thanks for doing this video. You clearly put a lot of work in here. I'll have to check them out. All the best.
I remember not getting an amiga until years later. Round about the time the amiga was out I still had a zx spectrum. I was a poor kid and that was handed down to me. I remembered seeing it play and was amazed and im still impressed with the Amiga. Great video, i will be checking some of these games out.
Like on every single system that ever existed. Only decades later homebrew developers are starting to nail it. Thanks for stopping by! :) Have a great weekend!
It heavy depends if we are talking about default A1200 with only AGA or about machines with more ram , hard disk, better cpu. I belive there are games that show power of A1200 very well and do even better on CD32 with pad and cd for storage.
A machine may have great hardware, but more importantly it must have excellent tools and documentation to develop great software. Tools and programming paradigma weren't that great at the time, and sharing documentation over the internet wasn't a thing. So it is no surprise that the best software comes way after the machine is already over its high point.
Payback really requires a near maxed Amiga to be even playable, 060 is almost as bare minimum if not playing in a stampsized window and then it's around 15 FPS. (some swear it's playable on 040, it's not IMHO). RTG and a overclocked 060 (80+ MHz) and it's quite smooth.
Some of these would see improved ports to other platforms later on, like Star Trek. The PC got a fully-voiced enhanced CD-Rom version where the entire cast returned to reprise their roles.
I had a 1200 with 5 external 3.5" drives and the Commodore Monitor , some games came on a lot of disks and it made playing a lot simpler if you could insert all of disks before playing .
Never had played an Amiga back in the days.....now i can enjoy it thx to emulation, need to check the titles that you highlighted here 😉 Thx 4 this.. 👍
I met Mark, Hans and Kirt just after they finished Overkill. Really nice guys and talented guys. Strange that the first AGA game came out of New Zealand. It is a pity they didn't do more AGA games. Their only other one they did together was Gloom.
As a kid, I use all my spared money to switch from A2000 to A1200 to be able to play the first Worms, only AGA compatible, lot of good memories from Amiga games (Giana Sisters, Monkey Island, The Settlers, Super Frog, Shadow of the Beast, ...)
Having had my A500 for 5 years I decided to upgrade in 1992 and buy the new A600HD. I'd only had the machine a few months when a friend showed me a advert in a Amiga mag about the release of the A1200! I'd never even heard of it, there was no publicity about it at all, well, none that I ever saw! Having read up on it and seen the specs I quickly sold my A600 and bought a A1200 the very same day. Over the coming months I was a little underwhemed with the games that was slowly trickling out, nothing I saw really blew me away tbh. Then finally games that used the extra power started arriving and all was good! So many class games, Deluxe Galaga was awesome! I spent many hours building my ship up, I was a playtester on a couple of Edgar's later games. He was a great coder, RIP. T-Zer0 I've played using emulation, like you said stunning gfx! I've played the majority of the games featured in your video and it's brought back some lovely nostalgia from great times. Nice one!
What a time-capsule... I never got my hands on such A1200 monster-machine (although I dreamed about an A4000) back in the day; only a (pumped up over time) 500 before moving over to the PC. But it's still the exact 'retro level' I like nowadays (more powerful than classic 16-bit consoles), whilst the first 32-bit / next-gen consoles aged terribly (looking at you PlayStation and N64) !
Thank you for the video! I discovered some Amiga games that I never seen before from this list! Amiga wasn't very common here in Brazil so my knowledge about the computer console and it's games is kinda limited! Cheers!
Great video, thanks! I had - and still have - an A600 so I missed on the AGA goodness. Now I just got my hands on an A1200 and I've been making a list of AGA titles I have to try. This video helped!
Another beautiful video:) In my opinion, the Amiga 1200 is most defined by the many Doom clones. The most interesting part was how different development groups competed to see who could squeeze the most out of the Amiga:)
Excellent video! I would certainly add "Watchtower" and "Beneath a Steel Sky".. and maybe also "James Pond 3", "Body Blows Galactic" and "Gunship 2000"
@@TheTrizznilla It sure is. But did you know that Bloodhouse, who made Super Stardust, later merged with another Finnish company Terramarque and became Housemarque, who in turn made Resogun?
The Amiga 1200 was a failure. If at the base it would have had 2Mb CHIP AND 1 MB of Fast Ram, and if the processor would have been at 28Mhz instead of 14Mhz, at the same prize, THEN ONLY it would have changed the history, and saved Commodore. Like it was, it was just not powerfull enough compared to the Amiga 500. I had both, an Amiga 500 and an Amiga 1200. When i got my Amiga 500 it was just a magic computer compared to my C64, and for years i was so happy with it. When i got my A1200, it just feeled like a little upgrade, and it was even worse because many of my A500 games did not work, or not well on my A1200.
I loved my A1200. I massively upgraded it at the time... Blizzard 1230-II, with a 40mhz 030 and additional 12MB of ram, an internal 75MB hard drive, an external 500MB Archos hard drive, additional external floppy drive, 14" Microvitec multi-sync monitor, external speakers and a Canon BJ-10 printer. I was daft enough to sell the lot for about £60 around 2001 and give the money to charity. Wish I'd kept it. 😢
Oh i played game Overkill long time ago on CD32! That game is so great! Banshee is great too, love to play On Escapee, but must upgrade my Amiga 1200! Great video! Keep on!💪
I drag my 1200 out every so often and have a play around with it my favourite games were Wings, Street rod 2, It Came From The Desert, and Stunt Car Racer
Chaos Engine AGA was more slow than ECS version. Many People rather to play ECS version. Alien Breed 3D has very slow source , could run much better on 020.
The biggest knock I have against the Amiga… the lack of Japanese games. The Oliver Twins said it themselves, they weren’t used to the polish of Japanese games when they tried to enter the NES market; it felt too upmarket for them. I dunno, as a Canadian I just didn’t grow up with the EuroPlatformer and EuroShmup look and feel; it always feels and looks “off” in my mind. Like there’s too much emphasis on graphics with colourful gradients rather than tight gameplay. I just grew up mostly playing the more polished (imho) Japanese stuff. Much of the EuroPlatformers I’ve tried seem to have slippery controls and the EuroShmups just don’t have tight gameplay systems. It’s like the developers don’t really understand the gameplay elements that makes a shmup good. (It’s not just a bunch of random blasting).
It's a shame that the Amiga never managed to get over itself and evolve into a viable platform for the CDROM 3d revolution that was coming to PCs already at the time. Personally, I'll take 2d sprite games from the 90s over the crap 3d we had until 2001 any time, but sadly the market chose otherwise.
I feel the same. In retrospect the GameBoy Advance was my 2d refuge during the dark days between 1995 until 2d indie gaming started coming back around 2007. It’s strange, I have almost no nostalgia for gaming during 1995-2007. I loved the stuff before then, and the modern indie stuff now. That period is a black hole to me.
It wasn't powerful enough for visually good 3d and graphic acceleraters were expensive. PC was more efficient with its direct to screen and didn't have to deal with bitplanes , bitplanes were great for Parallex scrolling but not so good for Doom style games.
Well, no, we A1200 owners could not proudly showcase AGA graphics to our friends, because by 1992 which is when A1200 was released, PCs already had 256-colour VGA graphics in games like Wing Commander which looked superior to anything the Amiga could manage. Still, a PC with a VGA graphics card and a SoundBlaster sound card was expensive back then. I held out for as long as I could to my dear Amiga, but finally caved in and jumped ship a few years later to get myself a second-hand 486 in order to play Doom and Quake.
I don't know. I have to say that I kinda personally like the OCS Chaos Engine. Maybe it's cause I played that as kkid, but the color palette looks somehow much better to me in OCS version.
Que nostalgia brutal. Ainda me lembro de ter pago do meu bolso 100 contos (500€) por um 1200 usado. Ainda o tenho depois de ter conseguido arranjar há 1 ano. :D De vez em quando ainda mato saudades com Gloom, Shadow Fighter, Roadkill, Body Blows, Sensible Soccer, Breathless...
I got the 1200 in '93 - a comic relief tie in bundled with a game called sleepwalker (which wasn't great). love the system though and a massive upgrade on my 128k spectrum. got an Amiga mini now to relive old times.
@@itsaPIXELthing Yes, I should keep her. But I decided, I will look up for some used Amiga again. Just for collection and best memories of happy days back then.
I didn't know there were so many A1200 games! By the time it was launched I was already invested in PC gaming, but it's definitely an interesting machine that had a lot of potential. If only it had been out earlier.
I wish I could relive opening my A500 for the first time Jan of ‘90.. My first game was Defender of the Crown.. At least I still got 3 versions of it tho on PC, GBA & PS2 lol
Payback definitely looked like it made use of the hardware's potential. That said, I'm more of an NES/SNES/Genesis guy than Commodore/Atari also because I grew up in the 90's. 😅
Não conhecia Brian The Lion e chamou-me imenso à atenção, aliás, vi imensas coisas no curto gameplay que trouxeste que me fez lembrar 1001 jogos que saíram depois.
É super divertido, da malta que trouxe o Shadow of the Beast e, mais tarde, as séries Destruction Derby e Driver ;) O estúdio (Reflections) ainda anda por aí nos dias de hoje (pertence à Ubisoft) e recentemente esteve envolvido em jogos como Watch Dogs Legion e o The Settlers New Allies.
Amazing games, no doubt :) And I must add that Lionheart and Hired Guns would run perfectly on a pretty standard A500 :) No need for an AGA chipset! Thanks for watching!
I would now call A1200 a bombshell. It was more breath some final life into the dying Amiga if anything. I was (is) a die hard Amiga fan but even I realized at the time that it was both way behind of PC and consoles when I came to gaming. And software wise it had already started to loose out to PC even though it would be more around 95 that the PC took totally over that part also from Amiga (Mac had already done I earlier but itself was a quite small platform at the time compared to PC)
Wonderful video! :) I would add, for my personal taste, Breathless, Heimdall 2, Universe, Black Viper, The Big Red Adventure and Tales from Heaven (ehm, I made that 3d platform game) :D
Zool is the perfect Amiga 1200 game. Honorable mentions to Alladin, Fighting Spirit, XP8,Pinball Game. Payback and Alien Breed in this video are using different hardware, not stock A1200
Even so, those two were sold as A1200 games. For instance, and as for Payback, the minimum requirements were: 68020 CPU, 16 MB RAM, 20 MB HDD, CD-ROM and AGA chipset. As for the recommended hardware: 68040 CPU, 16 MB RAM or higher, 45 MB HDD, 6x-speed CD-ROM, gfx card. Thanks for watching and for leaving your comment!
There are A LOT of games on Amiga (even some on the CD32) where you have to make a choice between sound effects OR music, but can't have both. I don't know enough about Amiga modding, but I know a lot of games have added 2-button support for pads since release, would it even be possible to mod those games to play sound and music at the same time, even if only on emulators?
@@itsaPIXELthing Banshee (even on the CD 32) Blood Brothers and Mercenary, Silkworm, the Lotus games and jaguar XJ220, a lot of stuff converted from the megadrive, most of those platformers where up is jump and a single drop of water instantly kills you even if you're a FROG, When you actually sit down and go through it, it's almost every arcade conversion and about half of the original Shmups as well, basically unless it was by Team 17, the people who make Turrican, or the Bitmap Brothers, who usually always had both in every one of their games, it was like 75% chance either you had to pick or there was only music on the title screen anyway, and only about 25% chance you got both in-game. Even Psygnosis games mostly made you pick. Going from a Spectrum 48K to a Master System, then an import Mega Drive, music in every game was a game changer. It's why I picked an import Super Famicom instead of an A500 when me mam asked me what I wanted for Christmas the next year, I'd already played too many games on friends Amiga's that had sound AND music on the C64, but you had to pick one or the other on Amiga. Plus comparing the Amiga and SNES versions of Final Fight also had something to do with that choice I won't lie. It would be an awesome end to the comment if I remembered whether you could have sound and music on Amiga Final Fight to sum up the point with, but I'm not loading up an emulator just to check.
If only Commodore had gotten machines of the A1200's capabilities out the door prior to 1990. Alas, they decided to sit on their laurels with he original Amigas until it was already too late.
If only Commodore kept the momentum going. They seemed to forward thinking at first but they ended up stuck in the past. I stayed with the Amiga to the point of having a ppc and 128mb RAM but it couldn't last forever.
Aladdin seems like its the megadrive version running under emulation?? Thus sound can only be music or sfx not same time due to cpu. It doesnt seem to use any more coloursthan md ver
not stock A1200 footage. Looks like u've got at least a 68060 50Mhz, probably more. The double agents at Commodore ensured stock machines didn't even have fast ram, crippling the A500 and A1200's speed for the sake of costing the manufacturer $15 for and extra 512KB.
Stock or not, it's A1200 stuff ;) If users wanted to be able to run certain games at decent speeds they had to spend extra money. I recall buying, back in 1994, an extra 4 MB RAM stick for my IBM PC for 150$ for similar reasons.
@@itsaPIXELthingThat's simply wrong. Most AGA games were made for base AGA machines with not much more than a FastRAM expansion, just because the sales for a game needing a 030/040/060 card would have been too small to make a profit.
I just want to play pga golf I played as a kid on my Amiga 500+ I looked at emulators and the Amiga mini , but it all looks to complicated and destined to not work for me lol, so looking at the easiest way of just buying a used Amiga 500+ and a copy of pga off eBay BUT just wondering if I could buy a 600 or 1200….. if there is any extra benefits ? I know nothing about them really . Would the copy of pga golf that works on 500+ work on the 600 or 1200 ?
Whilst on paper very good spec , bar no real 3d capabilities the biggest problem was lazy half arsed ports, most just added if u lucky a cd soundtrack or fmv footage . By now the newer 3d systems had started appearing so the hardware was looking outdated. I had an a1200 back in the day and still have one now. Decent software is key to a machines success and if u look at the 2 pack In titles shipped with it, nether really showed it off
Fact is the A1200 wouldn't have been able to handle Doom..and so Alien Breed 3d was the best you could get, hence the small gameplay window so that frame rate didn't take a MASSIVE hit to make it near unplayable
The Amiga 1200 was a soft upgrade over the A500/A600. The upgraded 020 CPU was severely underpowered compared to the competition in the form of PC hardware of the time. The custom AGA chipset was good but lacked any real exclusive graphical tricks and techniques that rival consoles and computers could not perform. The A1200 also lacked a sound upgrade, Commodore instead chose to stick with the A500/A600 Paula chip 8 Bit 4 channel sound... How much would it really have cost Commodore to double Paula's capabilities to 16 Bit 8 channel. In my opinion what turned the A1200 into something really special was the expansion capabilities Commodore built into the system. An internal 2.5 inch hard drive bay and underside expansion slot that could accept CPU accelerator upgrade cards with ram expansion and more allowed a user to turn the A1200 into a computer that could out perform a high end PC of the day. The expansion potential meant the A1200 lived on far longer than it otherwise would have done.
According to the guys that made the improved design for the A1200 it would have meant another 150 Euros (migrated to modern currency) for the retail price, which was not considered worth it, as they wanted to have it prized under PC systems. It was quite ok'ish for expansions, but also in the end the interfaces were just too limited in data bandwidth to make it play a role in the mass market unfortunately.
Most of these games were 2D, and even those that were 3D required expensive accelerator cards. In the 1990s this was not enough, especially when you consider that launch price of Amiga 1200 was $600, which is close to $2000 today. There was simply not enough improvement over Amiga 500, and somewhere in 1994-95 386DX with VGA became really cheap.
Recordo me de um vídeo há uns anos que alguém gamou um amiga 4000 antes da commodore fechar com um protótipo do triple A ,pergunto me se alguém fizesse um reverse engineer do chip e o integrasse numa expansão como seriam os jogos novos criados ...
I love this guy's accent. If I talked like that my mother would throw something at me.... :D Good video ! "twelve uuundred" :D btw... Does Napalm: Crimson Crisis (by Clickboom) work on AGA or is it that one of those RTG only games? Reason I ask is, I got WInUAE set up.. had the game since the 1990's but used to run it on an A3000 with a GVP Spectrum... Would rather just test it out on an AGA emulation... (I got some other setup issues going on as well) Boulder Dash or Diamon Caves for some reason also don't work on my WInUAE setup even thought I literally use the same harddrive setup.... They ... "Cannot open screen". Sigh
@@itsaPIXELthing It does... I'm just having a problem with screens and screenmodes... I got a squished up screen and sometimes (like when trying Galaga) the ship is not visible and its split... all messed up. One day I'll figure it out
Well I still think the 2 best looking shooters to ever grace any commodore machine are project x and disposable hero. Also that alien breed 3d : the killing grounds was much, much better than the original alien breed 3d. But solid games in the video man.
@@itsaPIXELthing thanks man, I am following the channel for quite some time now. I edited my first comment to say "best looking" shooters as this is what I meant to say. By no means were they the best shooters (there are many more, better than those, like Battle Squadron, R-Type, Silkworm, Banshee and the list goes on), but as far as looks are concerned, yeah, I think Project X and Disposable Hero are real lookers
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I saved my paper round wages and tips up for what seemed like an eternity to be able to afford an Amiga 1200 (£400). Needless to say that it was worth every rainy morning trudging down Ash Grove with a heavy bag slung over my shoulder. My favourite games were Frontier Elite, Populous II, Microprose F1 and Syndicate.
Thanks for sharing your story!
Wow , in the 90s your speaking about what maybe £15 a week paper money ? Thats ALOT of saving ! Amazing 👍
Populous 2 was amazing as was syndicate
Wow £400 for the A1200...that's the same price I paid for the A500
@@RsiX_productions circa '94 paper rounds were paying £5-8 per week.
This was my favourite era of gaming … miss those good times 😢
A pretty amazing time to be alive :)
Thanks for stopping by and for leavIng your comment!
Same era for me, but on PC
Great video, I learnt about quite a few games that I wasn't aware had an AGA release!
Thanks for stopping by, Phil! Appreciate it
My A1200 was a replacement for my ZX Spectrum 48k - great times.
That was a huge leap! :) Thanks for sharing!
@@itsaPIXELthing it really was night and day - but the funny thing is that it's still the Speccy that's my gaming first, and true, love. The system had it's limitations, but for me it defined the 1980s. I still play Manic Miner, Atic Atac and Chuckie Egg to this day.
I undestand that ;) my Speccy 48k and even the 128k +2a both have a special place in my heart :)
Yeah big jump. I went MSX, C64, Atari Ste then Amiga 1200.
I went from a 48K Speccy to a C128D, and eventually to an A500, and was mighty impressed with those upgrades, but these days I’m more fond of the Spectrum and the C64 games. Nostalgia is a funny thing
Deluxe Galaga, what a great game. I still play it from time to time. Thanks for a great video 👍
My pleasure! Thanks for stopping by! Cheers!
Got that bad boy on CD32 off of a cover CD amazing game played it more than any retail game i had except for Alien Breed Tower Assault the FMV and AGA GFX were excellent on that game.
@@jackburton8352 Wish I still had my CD32. Simon the Sorcerer was the first talkie I played, just a shame there weren't more on the CD32. I also loved the FMVs on the Alien Breed as well. I remember a magazine saying they were a cross between Alien (?) and Emmerdale 😆
@@zubazub66 Beneath a steel sky was my fully voiced point & click never played Simon TS but i know it's a great game all the same.
Try to find game "Warblade" which is basically Galaga, by the same author, but for PC.
I've always wondered what games came out on the 1200 besides the upgraded titles. Thanks for doing this video. You clearly put a lot of work in here. I'll have to check them out. All the best.
Glad you enjoyed it :) Have fun!
Super clever art design on the parallax of Overkill. it looks like a continuous 3D perspective rather than three or four levels.
I would add Roadkill, Ishar II, Bloodnet and Dungeon Master II to the list. Best gaming time for me...
Amazing games! No doubt :)
I'd also add Pinball Fantasies, extra colours helped. Marvin's Marvelous adventure and Liberation : Captive 2
Nice ones, indeed! Much love for Pinball Fantasies :)
I remember not getting an amiga until years later. Round about the time the amiga was out I still had a zx spectrum. I was a poor kid and that was handed down to me. I remembered seeing it play and was amazed and im still impressed with the Amiga.
Great video, i will be checking some of these games out.
Thanks for sharing your story! Appreciate it! Feel free to check my other Amiga related videos! Cheers
I don't think any game of the time really harnessed the full power the system had.
Like on every single system that ever existed. Only decades later homebrew developers are starting to nail it. Thanks for stopping by! :) Have a great weekend!
Payback certainly looks like it did.
It heavy depends if we are talking about default A1200 with only AGA or about machines with more ram , hard disk, better cpu. I belive there are games that show power of A1200 very well and do even better on CD32 with pad and cd for storage.
Benefit of hindsight and all that!...You could say the exact same thing about EVERY computer!...Supercomputers even!
A machine may have great hardware, but more importantly it must have excellent tools and documentation to develop great software. Tools and programming paradigma weren't that great at the time, and sharing documentation over the internet wasn't a thing. So it is no surprise that the best software comes way after the machine is already over its high point.
I remember back in the day my cousin had an amiga and we would play a lot worms and pinball
Thanks for sharing your memories :)
You made my day witg this! Thank you so much! 😊
My pleasure! Have a great weekend!
Parabéns pelo video, fico sempre até ao final sempre que abordas o tema AMIGA.
Agradeço-te imenso por isso, Vasco! Abraço
Amiga forever!!!
Payback really requires a near maxed Amiga to be even playable, 060 is almost as bare minimum if not playing in a stampsized window and then it's around 15 FPS. (some swear it's playable on 040, it's not IMHO). RTG and a overclocked 060 (80+ MHz) and it's quite smooth.
Thanks for sharing your technical knowledge! And thanks for stopping by!
Use pistorm32 👍
Some of these would see improved ports to other platforms later on, like Star Trek. The PC got a fully-voiced enhanced CD-Rom version where the entire cast returned to reprise their roles.
Indeed, as told on my top 10 point n click graphic adventures' video: th-cam.com/video/rLRpHRnFqAI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=UMLDJ7WC2xGLai8a
I had a 1200 with 5 external 3.5" drives and the Commodore Monitor , some games came on a lot of disks and it made playing a lot simpler if you could insert all of disks before playing .
5 external drives? Wow! 😃 Thanks for sharing that story! Cheers
Never had played an Amiga back in the days.....now i can enjoy it thx to emulation, need to check the titles that you highlighted here 😉
Thx 4 this.. 👍
Please do! Check out amigalive.com for a pretty straightforward way of playing amiga games with your Xbox controller ;)
Very good video! Congratulations!
Thanks, Vitor! Grande abraço :)
I already jumped ship by the time the Amiga 1200 came to be.
Yeah, I also moved to IBM PCs by the end of '93.
@@itsaPIXELthing Sam & Max, Day Of The Tentacle, Strike Commander, Rebel Assault, DOOM and IndyCarRacing were my first games.
I've talked about those in other of my DOS related videos :) love them all!
I met Mark, Hans and Kirt just after they finished Overkill. Really nice guys and talented guys. Strange that the first AGA game came out of New Zealand. It is a pity they didn't do more AGA games. Their only other one they did together was Gloom.
Thanks for sharing that! The homebrew community is creating amazing things for our Amigas. Turrican 2 Aga and Castlevania Aga are amazing :)
Both games are amazing :)
thank you for the beautifull video mate i really appreciate your work!!hope you are well and healthy!!
Thank you so much for your kind words! All the best!
As a kid, I use all my spared money to switch from A2000 to A1200 to be able to play the first Worms, only AGA compatible, lot of good memories from Amiga games (Giana Sisters, Monkey Island, The Settlers, Super Frog, Shadow of the Beast, ...)
Nice 😉 thanks for sharing your memories! Cheers!
Banshee and Alien Breed 3D ate up so much of my time back in the day (and occasionally these days too). What amazing games.
Indeed :) So much fun!
Having had my A500 for 5 years I decided to upgrade in 1992 and buy the new A600HD. I'd only had the machine a few months when a friend showed me a advert in a Amiga mag about the release of the A1200! I'd never even heard of it, there was no publicity about it at all, well, none that I ever saw! Having read up on it and seen the specs I quickly sold my A600 and bought a A1200 the very same day. Over the coming months I was a little underwhemed with the games that was slowly trickling out, nothing I saw really blew me away tbh. Then finally games that used the extra power started arriving and all was good!
So many class games, Deluxe Galaga was awesome! I spent many hours building my ship up, I was a playtester on a couple of Edgar's later games. He was a great coder, RIP. T-Zer0 I've played using emulation, like you said stunning gfx! I've played the majority of the games featured in your video and it's brought back some lovely nostalgia from great times. Nice one!
Yeah, the marketing people at Commodore didn't knew what they were doing. Thanks for sharing your story! Cheers
Never did get a 1200, ended up going to work for a Civil Engineer, and it was all PC's for CADD.
Yeah... Thanks for watching and for leaving your comment!
What a time-capsule... I never got my hands on such A1200 monster-machine (although I dreamed about an A4000) back in the day; only a (pumped up over time) 500 before moving over to the PC. But it's still the exact 'retro level' I like nowadays (more powerful than classic 16-bit consoles), whilst the first 32-bit / next-gen consoles aged terribly (looking at you PlayStation and N64) !
Yeah, I also wanted an A4000! Ended up grabbing an IBM PS/1 486 PC instead... yeah. Thank you so much for sharing your memories! Have a great weekend!
Thank you for the video! I discovered some Amiga games that I never seen before from this list! Amiga wasn't very common here in Brazil so my knowledge about the computer console and it's games is kinda limited! Cheers!
Que maravilha! Obrigado por partilhares a tua opinião, Álvaro! Grande abraço de Portugal! :)
Great video, thanks! I had - and still have - an A600 so I missed on the AGA goodness. Now I just got my hands on an A1200 and I've been making a list of AGA titles I have to try. This video helped!
Awesome 👌 thank you! Have fun!
Another beautiful video:) In my opinion, the Amiga 1200 is most defined by the many Doom clones. The most interesting part was how different development groups competed to see who could squeeze the most out of the Amiga:)
Indeed! :) Those were amazing years to be alive! :)
Excellent video! I would certainly add "Watchtower" and "Beneath a Steel Sky".. and maybe also "James Pond 3", "Body Blows Galactic" and "Gunship 2000"
Those are amazing games, no doubt! Amazing experiences indeed! Thanks for stopping by!
Man, Overkill is Resogun before Resogun was Resogun. I gotta play it. It would be AWESOME on Evercade.
@@TheTrizznilla It sure is. But did you know that Bloodhouse, who made Super Stardust, later merged with another Finnish company Terramarque and became Housemarque, who in turn made Resogun?
The Amiga 1200 was a failure.
If at the base it would have had 2Mb CHIP AND 1 MB of Fast Ram, and if the processor would have been at 28Mhz instead of 14Mhz, at the same prize, THEN ONLY it would have changed the history, and saved Commodore.
Like it was, it was just not powerfull enough compared to the Amiga 500.
I had both, an Amiga 500 and an Amiga 1200.
When i got my Amiga 500 it was just a magic computer compared to my C64, and for years i was so happy with it.
When i got my A1200, it just feeled like a little upgrade, and it was even worse because many of my A500 games did not work, or not well on my A1200.
Yeah, I know that feeling
ohhhh the commodore amiga times..... love it :)
I loved my A1200. I massively upgraded it at the time... Blizzard 1230-II, with a 40mhz 030 and additional 12MB of ram, an internal 75MB hard drive, an external 500MB Archos hard drive, additional external floppy drive, 14" Microvitec multi-sync monitor, external speakers and a Canon BJ-10 printer.
I was daft enough to sell the lot for about £60 around 2001 and give the money to charity.
Wish I'd kept it. 😢
That was a nice gesture.
Oh i played game Overkill long time ago on CD32! That game is so great! Banshee is great too, love to play On Escapee, but must upgrade my Amiga 1200! Great video! Keep on!💪
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I drag my 1200 out every so often and have a play around with it my favourite games were Wings, Street rod 2, It Came From The Desert, and Stunt Car Racer
Nice! You keep it! :) Such an amazing piece of technology :) Cheers!
Chaos Engine AGA was more slow than ECS version. Many People rather to play ECS version. Alien Breed 3D has very slow source , could run much better on 020.
The biggest knock I have against the Amiga… the lack of Japanese games. The Oliver Twins said it themselves, they weren’t used to the polish of Japanese games when they tried to enter the NES market; it felt too upmarket for them. I dunno, as a Canadian I just didn’t grow up with the EuroPlatformer and EuroShmup look and feel; it always feels and looks “off” in my mind. Like there’s too much emphasis on graphics with colourful gradients rather than tight gameplay. I just grew up mostly playing the more polished (imho) Japanese stuff. Much of the EuroPlatformers I’ve tried seem to have slippery controls and the EuroShmups just don’t have tight gameplay systems. It’s like the developers don’t really understand the gameplay elements that makes a shmup good. (It’s not just a bunch of random blasting).
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Well said
For me it was The guild of thieves and test drive!
Do I have any memories? Yes, from two days ago - the last time I used two of my three different A1200's!
Nice :)
It's a shame that the Amiga never managed to get over itself and evolve into a viable platform for the CDROM 3d revolution that was coming to PCs already at the time. Personally, I'll take 2d sprite games from the 90s over the crap 3d we had until 2001 any time, but sadly the market chose otherwise.
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I feel the same. In retrospect the GameBoy Advance was my 2d refuge during the dark days between 1995 until 2d indie gaming started coming back around 2007. It’s strange, I have almost no nostalgia for gaming during 1995-2007. I loved the stuff before then, and the modern indie stuff now. That period is a black hole to me.
It wasn't powerful enough for visually good 3d and graphic acceleraters were expensive. PC was more efficient with its direct to screen and didn't have to deal with bitplanes , bitplanes were great for Parallex scrolling but not so good for Doom style games.
@3:46 whoa! I was looking forward to a review of Castlevania and didn’t realize it is a recent development as of Feb 2024 - the beta will be out soon!
I never knew about tin toys which is a shame because I loved doodle bug by mutation software.
Well, no, we A1200 owners could not proudly showcase AGA graphics to our friends, because by 1992 which is when A1200 was released, PCs already had 256-colour VGA graphics in games like Wing Commander which looked superior to anything the Amiga could manage. Still, a PC with a VGA graphics card and a SoundBlaster sound card was expensive back then.
I held out for as long as I could to my dear Amiga, but finally caved in and jumped ship a few years later to get myself a second-hand 486 in order to play Doom and Quake.
Yeah, just like me. I got my first PC by September of 1993, a mighty IBM PS/1 486 DX 2 66 MHz priced at just over 2000 pounds.
Syndicate, silk worm , jaguar xj220 , swos... I miss them days 😅
Thanks or you video!
Amiga Forever!
This a loving gane in the Russia.
Commodore Live!
Great video. Perfect
Thanks, Michael! Appreciate it! Cheers!
Lord of The Realms is only game on this list I played a lot of. Dune 2 , a lot of the Dungeon Crawlers, Exile AGA and Oddysey were some others.
I don't know. I have to say that I kinda personally like the OCS Chaos Engine. Maybe it's cause I played that as kkid, but the color palette looks somehow much better to me in OCS version.
I do like it also! It was the first version I played on my Amiga 500. Only played the AGA version meny years later. Cheers!
Que nostalgia brutal. Ainda me lembro de ter pago do meu bolso 100 contos (500€) por um 1200 usado. Ainda o tenho depois de ter conseguido arranjar há 1 ano. :D
De vez em quando ainda mato saudades com Gloom, Shadow Fighter, Roadkill, Body Blows, Sensible Soccer, Breathless...
Que maravilha 😊 obrigado por assistires e deixares o teu contributo! Abraço
Great list although Genetic Species would have been a good mention. Otherwise, nice! 😃
It's a pretty cool game, indeed :) thanks for pointing that one out!
I got the 1200 in '93 - a comic relief tie in bundled with a game called sleepwalker (which wasn't great). love the system though and a massive upgrade on my 128k spectrum. got an Amiga mini now to relive old times.
That was a huge leão, from a 128k Speccy to the A1200! :) Thanks for sharing your story! Cheers
“In-house graphics” take a drink each time
Great collection!
I would add Superfrog (CD32), Pinball Illusions and Wasted Dreams.
Pinball Fantasies is so amazing! Feel free to check my history video on that one: th-cam.com/video/sYP0PgTsE9E/w-d-xo.htmlsi=CutwW5utcQSI0c97
I was a proud owner of A1200 with 107MB HDD. I sold her in 1994. Still miss her...
What a shame. A machine like that was a dream come true! Thanks for sharing
@@itsaPIXELthing Yes, I should keep her. But I decided, I will look up for some used Amiga again. Just for collection and best memories of happy days back then.
Definiram mesmo e tu amigo me das conhecer muitos jogos desta plataforma bem top ..:)
I didn't know there were so many A1200 games! By the time it was launched I was already invested in PC gaming, but it's definitely an interesting machine that had a lot of potential. If only it had been out earlier.
Yeah, it came too late. Thanks for sharing your opinion :) have a great weekend!
I wish I could relive opening my A500 for the first time Jan of ‘90.. My first game was Defender of the Crown.. At least I still got 3 versions of it tho on PC, GBA & PS2 lol
Nice 😄 thanks for sharing!
Payback definitely looked like it made use of the hardware's potential.
That said, I'm more of an NES/SNES/Genesis guy than Commodore/Atari also because I grew up in the 90's. 😅
Hi, Philip! Thanks you so much for sharing your thoughts and for watching this video! Means a lot! Cheers
In my mind the A500 was the better machine than SNES and Mega Drive, but I had all three for the shootem ups and F-Zero.
Não conhecia Brian The Lion e chamou-me imenso à atenção, aliás, vi imensas coisas no curto gameplay que trouxeste que me fez lembrar 1001 jogos que saíram depois.
É super divertido, da malta que trouxe o Shadow of the Beast e, mais tarde, as séries Destruction Derby e Driver ;) O estúdio (Reflections) ainda anda por aí nos dias de hoje (pertence à Ubisoft) e recentemente esteve envolvido em jogos como Watch Dogs Legion e o The Settlers New Allies.
Tinha de ser hahaha@@itsaPIXELthing
Eye of the Beholder I & ll , Hired guns, Ishar, Lionheart and Darkmere for me !
Amazing games, no doubt :) And I must add that Lionheart and Hired Guns would run perfectly on a pretty standard A500 :) No need for an AGA chipset! Thanks for watching!
I would now call A1200 a bombshell. It was more breath some final life into the dying Amiga if anything. I was (is) a die hard Amiga fan but even I realized at the time that it was both way behind of PC and consoles when I came to gaming. And software wise it had already started to loose out to PC even though it would be more around 95 that the PC took totally over that part also from Amiga (Mac had already done I earlier but itself was a quite small platform at the time compared to PC)
Well said :) thanks for this!
Wonderful video! :) I would add, for my personal taste, Breathless, Heimdall 2, Universe, Black Viper, The Big Red Adventure and Tales from Heaven (ehm, I made that 3d platform game) :D
Wow! Nice! 🙂 Thanks for sharing!
Zool is the perfect Amiga 1200 game. Honorable mentions to Alladin, Fighting Spirit, XP8,Pinball Game. Payback and Alien Breed in this video are using different hardware, not stock A1200
Even so, those two were sold as A1200 games. For instance, and as for Payback, the minimum requirements were: 68020 CPU, 16 MB RAM, 20 MB HDD, CD-ROM and AGA chipset. As for the recommended hardware: 68040 CPU, 16 MB RAM or higher, 45 MB HDD, 6x-speed CD-ROM, gfx card. Thanks for watching and for leaving your comment!
My favourite games on Amiga 1200 was The Strangers and Napalm :-)
Nice ones, indeed :) Thanks for sharing!
I really loved playing Chaos Engine. A beautiful and completely absorbing game that stole many, many hours from me. :-)
Such a great game :) check my history video on The Bitman Bros: th-cam.com/video/lVTHJRh_iv4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=xjF2Yt59duyqx7Qf
Bloodfest is not AGA game. It is shareware OCS game (32 colours action screen) with double AGA/OCS title screen.
Yeah, freeware. Was made in a month to enter a competition held by ACE magazine and it had the option to play using the AGA chipset.
I still have my A1200 now I have put a PiStorm 32 Lite in it.
Aladdin, Alien Breed 2, Banshee, Chaos Engine, Civilization, Fightin' Spirit, Slam Tilt... good times 😄
So many of them, right? :) Thanks for watching and for leavIng your comment! Appreciate it!
Were you talking about the A1200 with Advanced Graphic Architecture? You should have said!
Right? I also thought so! ;)
Defender of the crown, Another world, it came from the desert and list goes on...
Yeah! The list is, indeed, endless when it comes to Amiga video games ;) Feel free to watch my other Amiga related videos! :) Cheers!
There are A LOT of games on Amiga (even some on the CD32) where you have to make a choice between sound effects OR music, but can't have both.
I don't know enough about Amiga modding, but I know a lot of games have added 2-button support for pads since release, would it even be possible to mod those games to play sound and music at the same time, even if only on emulators?
I recall one game that I love that has that "problem", of only listening to the music or the sound effects: Midnight Resistance.
@@itsaPIXELthing Banshee (even on the CD 32) Blood Brothers and Mercenary, Silkworm, the Lotus games and jaguar XJ220, a lot of stuff converted from the megadrive, most of those platformers where up is jump and a single drop of water instantly kills you even if you're a FROG,
When you actually sit down and go through it, it's almost every arcade conversion and about half of the original Shmups as well, basically unless it was by Team 17, the people who make Turrican, or the Bitmap Brothers, who usually always had both in every one of their games, it was like 75% chance either you had to pick or there was only music on the title screen anyway, and only about 25% chance you got both in-game.
Even Psygnosis games mostly made you pick. Going from a Spectrum 48K to a Master System, then an import Mega Drive, music in every game was a game changer.
It's why I picked an import Super Famicom instead of an A500 when me mam asked me what I wanted for Christmas the next year, I'd already played too many games on friends Amiga's that had sound AND music on the C64, but you had to pick one or the other on Amiga.
Plus comparing the Amiga and SNES versions of Final Fight also had something to do with that choice I won't lie.
It would be an awesome end to the comment if I remembered whether you could have sound and music on Amiga Final Fight to sum up the point with, but I'm not loading up an emulator just to check.
Nice video. OnEscapee is a bit too inspired by Another World and Flashback for me, sort of a plagiarism. The game seems well done though.
It was, indeed, its main inspiration ;) Thanks for watching and for leaving your comment! Have a great weekend!
If only Commodore had gotten machines of the A1200's capabilities out the door prior to 1990. Alas, they decided to sit on their laurels with he original Amigas until it was already too late.
My thoughts exactly.
Drinking game: Each time he says "advanced graphic" or "in house graphics" you have to drink, its been nice knowing you...
It's a pretty awesome exercise! Try it 😄
A500 maxi will be here for Christmas😊
It will be awesome! :)
Xenon 2 was my favorite Amiga game.
Amazing game! Check my history video on the Bitmaps: th-cam.com/video/lVTHJRh_iv4/w-d-xo.html
If only Commodore kept the momentum going. They seemed to forward thinking at first but they ended up stuck in the past. I stayed with the Amiga to the point of having a ppc and 128mb RAM but it couldn't last forever.
I'm sensing the A1200 had an Advanced Graphics Architecture :)
So that people won't forget ;)
A1200 without CRT monitor is a crime for 50/60fps scrolling, LCD blurry mess
I have 3 amiga500s but the 1200 is quite hard to find in the uk.
10 years ago was all over the place. Nowadays is, indeed, very hard to find. Thanks for stopping by :)
Aladdin seems like its the megadrive version running under emulation?? Thus sound can only be music or sfx not same time due to cpu. It doesnt seem to use any more coloursthan md ver
I had Star Trek 25th Anniversary on my PC. Reckon it's probably the best Star Trek game
Indeed, it is 😉
I sure hope the script was not written by chatgpt
New drinking game:
every time you hear 'advanced graphics architecture', do a shot.
Go for it! :)
@@itsaPIXELthing See you at the hospital! 🤣
not stock A1200 footage. Looks like u've got at least a 68060 50Mhz, probably more.
The double agents at Commodore ensured stock machines didn't even have fast ram, crippling the A500 and A1200's speed for the sake of costing the manufacturer $15 for and extra 512KB.
Stock or not, it's A1200 stuff ;) If users wanted to be able to run certain games at decent speeds they had to spend extra money. I recall buying, back in 1994, an extra 4 MB RAM stick for my IBM PC for 150$ for similar reasons.
@@itsaPIXELthingThat's simply wrong. Most AGA games were made for base AGA machines with not much more than a FastRAM expansion, just because the sales for a game needing a 030/040/060 card would have been too small to make a profit.
I just want to play pga golf I played as a kid on my Amiga 500+
I looked at emulators and the Amiga mini , but it all looks to complicated and destined to not work for me lol, so looking at the easiest way of just buying a used Amiga 500+ and a copy of pga off eBay
BUT just wondering if I could buy a 600 or 1200….. if there is any extra benefits ? I know nothing about them really .
Would the copy of pga golf that works on 500+ work on the 600 or 1200 ?
It will most likely work, yeah. The problem is that the prices of A600s and A1200s are stupidly high.
Whilst on paper very good spec , bar no real 3d capabilities the biggest problem was lazy half arsed ports, most just added if u lucky a cd soundtrack or fmv footage . By now the newer 3d systems had started appearing so the hardware was looking outdated. I had an a1200 back in the day and still have one now. Decent software is key to a machines success and if u look at the 2 pack In titles shipped with it, nether really showed it off
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Fact is the A1200 wouldn't have been able to handle Doom..and so Alien Breed 3d was the best you could get, hence the small gameplay window so that frame rate didn't take a MASSIVE hit to make it near unplayable
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Thanks for reminding me that I'm F#cking well old ;~)
My pleasure ;) Cheers!
''So.... what's the difference between the Amiga 500 and Amiga 1200?''
Oh.... about 700
Eh eh eh eh! :)
The Amiga 1200 was a soft upgrade over the A500/A600. The upgraded 020 CPU was severely underpowered compared to the competition in the form of PC hardware of the time. The custom AGA chipset was good but lacked any real exclusive graphical tricks and techniques that rival consoles and computers could not perform. The A1200 also lacked a sound upgrade, Commodore instead chose to stick with the A500/A600 Paula chip 8 Bit 4 channel sound... How much would it really have cost Commodore to double Paula's capabilities to 16 Bit 8 channel.
In my opinion what turned the A1200 into something really special was the expansion capabilities Commodore built into the system. An internal 2.5 inch hard drive bay and underside expansion slot that could accept CPU accelerator upgrade cards with ram expansion and more allowed a user to turn the A1200 into a computer that could out perform a high end PC of the day. The expansion potential meant the A1200 lived on far longer than it otherwise would have done.
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According to the guys that made the improved design for the A1200 it would have meant another 150 Euros (migrated to modern currency) for the retail price, which was not considered worth it, as they wanted to have it prized under PC systems.
It was quite ok'ish for expansions, but also in the end the interfaces were just too limited in data bandwidth to make it play a role in the mass market unfortunately.
Most of these games were 2D, and even those that were 3D required expensive accelerator cards. In the 1990s this was not enough, especially when you consider that launch price of Amiga 1200 was $600, which is close to $2000 today. There was simply not enough improvement over Amiga 500, and somewhere in 1994-95 386DX with VGA became really cheap.
You're absolutely right. I agree 100%.
Recordo me de um vídeo há uns anos que alguém gamou um amiga 4000 antes da commodore fechar com um protótipo do triple A ,pergunto me se alguém fizesse um reverse engineer do chip e o integrasse numa expansão como seriam os jogos novos criados ...
Não sabia dessa história do gamanço 😄
É verdade.pergunto me como seria a nível de gráficos com o triple A..bom Natal
I love this guy's accent.
If I talked like that my mother would throw something at me.... :D
Good video !
"twelve uuundred" :D
btw...
Does Napalm: Crimson Crisis (by Clickboom) work on AGA or is it that one of those RTG only games?
Reason I ask is, I got WInUAE set up.. had the game since the 1990's but used to run it on an A3000 with a GVP Spectrum...
Would rather just test it out on an AGA emulation... (I got some other setup issues going on as well)
Boulder Dash or Diamon Caves for some reason also don't work on my WInUAE setup even thought I literally use the same harddrive setup....
They ... "Cannot open screen".
Sigh
Ahhh, mate! You made laugh! Thanks for this moment :)
Napalm: The Crimson Crisis indeed works on AGA. Not sure about Boulder Dash, though.
@@itsaPIXELthing
It does...
I'm just having a problem with screens and screenmodes...
I got a squished up screen and sometimes (like when trying Galaga) the ship is not visible and its split... all messed up.
One day I'll figure it out
Well I still think the 2 best looking shooters to ever grace any commodore machine are project x and disposable hero. Also that alien breed 3d : the killing grounds was much, much better than the original alien breed 3d. But solid games in the video man.
Thanks for leaving your feedback! Appreciate it ;)
@@itsaPIXELthing thanks man, I am following the channel for quite some time now. I edited my first comment to say "best looking" shooters as this is what I meant to say. By no means were they the best shooters (there are many more, better than those, like Battle Squadron, R-Type, Silkworm, Banshee and the list goes on), but as far as looks are concerned, yeah, I think Project X and Disposable Hero are real lookers
It would have been interesting to see this machine up against the Sharp X68000