Fun fact: For those who didn't already know, Amy's debut game, Sonic CD, released in 1993, whilst Knuckles debuted in 1994. Amy debuted FIRST, so it's only fair that she get introduced! I think the Knuckles series would've been a REALLY great place to introduce her, but eh, what's happened has happened.
Amy embodied the same love and empathy as Maria- that's why she was the only one who could reach Shadow. It wasn't just "oh right, maybe humans aren't evil" it was hearing Maria's own words coming from someone else, knowing her wish wasn't dead. If anyone else is given that role the scene loses all meaning.
@@fightingmedialounge519Well that, and Amy was very similar to Maria. She goes above and beyond to see the best in people (after E-102 Gamma proved to her it was possible), so she trusted Shadow to do the right thing. I know Gamma isn't in the movies either, but it's just an observation I made.
This is why it's considered to be butchered in Sonic X. They had Chris do this instead of Amy. It has to be Amy that does it in order to have the full effect. I swear if they have Wade do that scene in the movie...
@@TheSultan1470 Because nobody really cares about a human character being in that role. People wanted Amy to be the one to have that conversation with Shadow like in the game.
Whenever people say “It would take precious screen time from Shadow” just remind them that shadow only has four levels and a handful of bosses in sonic adventure two and still left the biggest impact in the game
That's true and the fans loved him so much that Sega brought him back having us think was he real or fake all along until his own game confirmed to us that he was the real Shadow all along thanks Eggman!
@@gutembergnery7985Yeah, people seem to glace over the fact that Heroes never acknowledged if Shadow was a robot or the real deal, it was just Rouge being all like "Shadow *COULD* be a robot or he could be the real thing"
I'm happy you talked about her being a damsel in destress. From how I saw it, she was a damsel in distress in the first game she was introduced, and when she was saved by sonic she was inspired to be a hero like him. Her love for sonic is what started her development. Sonic isn't her only personality trait but he is a very important part.
I mean if people think Amy doesn’t matter and doesn’t need to be in these movies than they don’t know a thing about her since she’s one of the most important Sonic characters, and with the 3rd movie adapting SA2 then it’d be really odd for her to not show up when she’s an essential part of Shadow’s arc, she’s literally the person that got Shadow to remember his true promise to Maria and get him back to the good side, if it wasn’t for Amy, the heroes might’ve had less of a chance at stopping the Ark and even if they still did, Shadow would still be against them instead of with them, saying Amy doesn’t matter and doesn’t need to be in these movies is just kinda dumb (which goes for Rouge too)
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
@@Sammy-34079 Who said anything about Disney or Looney toons-? Let them have their opinion instead of bringing in characters that weren't even mentioned.
@@j-dawg859 the canon goes like this: Sonic 1, Sonic CD, Sonic 2, Sonic 3, so Amy was actually Sonic's first P2 and even the games show that Sonic 3 was the last 2D game to feature a Team Sonic member, that being Knuckles
Sonic movie fans are the type of people to say Amy would steal shadows screen time then be cheering and applauding at the honeymoon scene between Rachel and her husband 😂
@@SonicTheHedgehogX15 Every time I see her, I always hear Lisa Ortiz’s wonderful voice. She’s still my favorite Amy voice right next to Cindy Robinson because she’s been getting even better lately. 🩷
@@tonymata8070Jennifer Doulliard, Lisa Ortiz, Cindy Robinson, and Shannon Chan-Kent are amazing voices for Amy Rose! But Lisa Ortiz and Cindy Robinson are mostly my favorites.😍💕
If they're not including Amy because "loves Sonic" that's incredibly dumb. Amy hasn't been obsessed with Sonic since Generations! It shows that the creators haven't looked at a Sonic game or show since Sonic Battle.
Lol that’s 95% everyone of the fanbase they act like Amy is this “physco obbssesed sonic stalker” unironically not even as a joke , lord Amy even when hasn’t shown any affection for sonic it’s not good enough, people want her to act like this boring mature mom of the group 🤣
@@naitsabes6222 I'd rather her be the mum of the group if it means she's included TBH. Also her shift in character was due to Sonic Forces and having to mature quickly when Sonic was away.
@@YujiUedaFanI wish they actually established that but they sadly didn’t which is so baffling it would make so much sense for the happy bubbly girl to have her tone and attitude completely change after being in a war were she thought her hero died , but nope people say Amy changed becuase sonci didn’t want their stalking her no more I’m like yeah sure that’s why Amy would change 😂
In Sonic Adventure 2, its such a weirdly powerful cutscene seeing Amy of all people getting through to Shadow so deeply. Such a defining character moment. One of my favourite characters and I've missed her hammer play-style in Sonic Adventure 1 lol. I'd love to see that continuing dynamic between her and shadow in the Sonic 3rd movie.
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
@@Sammy-34079 Why are you here if you hate the Sonic franchise? This entire video explains Amy's character, a living characture would be Peach from the Mario franchise.
I actually agree with this take 100%. Both Amy AND Rouge are key characters in the franchise, at least one of them should be introduced in the movie universe so they can play some kind of role in shadow’s story, otherwise the studio isn’t really using the IP to its fullest. Also the people that say that Amy shouldn’t be in the movie come from Twitter. Pup you should know by now that you won’t ever find smart opinions on Twitter.
I didn't hate the knuckles show, but I do agree Knuckles didn't get enough focus or character development to do, it feels outta nowhere when he say "this is my home." I definitely agree they should've incorporated more lore or characters from the games to feed the sonic fans
(apologies for this being long) Personally, I got it. He did get some good character development. He learned how to relax & enjoy more types of entertainment. Someone who has spent their whole life fighting with ONE goal take a long time to figure out how to settle down or even realize they SHOULD settle down. Wade is also now wiser and more experienced, (him & Knuckles are literally Sokka & his swordsman teacher,) G.U.N was more properly integrated, we have characters to connect to G.U.N in a way that kinda *forshadows* Rouge appearing at some point with how that lady knows so much about Knuckles & other aliens. Speaking of the #1 Knucks himself (seriously, he's my favorite, and here I am defending his "lack" of screen time), most if not all times Knuckles wasn't focused as much as Wade, he wasn't really doing anything. He was either just chilling, or was just doing something that wasn't as important at the moment as what was going on with Wade. I agree in that I wish we did get to see more Knucks, and it does feel like some stuff could've been done better, but I also see now that they did the best they could with all that was going on. Honestly, I hope we get to see more of Wade's mom; she was awesome, she's badass, and I think she did the most in helping Knuckles get in much character development, and I. LOVE IT. Knuckles was losing a sense of purpose, and I love how helping Wade and his fam helped himself as a person in return. He has a new sense of purpose now, and honestly, I think bringing Amy in would've REALLY taken that away. Knuckles & Wade got enough spotlight in there already, we DO NOT need any new MAJOR CHARACTERS in an f-ing MINI SERIES! 😂 Then you'd have a HUGE reason to complain about with screentime! "Omg Amy stole the show, it was supposed to be Knuckles! Wade was already enough! 😭😫" Oh and let's not forget the ton of Easter eggs, all we learned about knucks' past, then there's more about G.U.N's spotlight importance I didn't mention, and other things that actually make more than 80% of the series worth being the way it is. And with the problem of "too many humans"... I think they're getting better at making humans feel better in the universe. The G.U.N agent dude is very interesting. Like bro's a killer with pent up bloodlust. Then also of course Mrs. Whipple, Tom, Robotnic & Stone, the kids, and the whole epic wedding crash take-back think. And now just the way any of the Sonic trio react to anyone is enough for me for the most part. 😂 And c'mon. These aliens are literally coming to OUR planet which is FULL of humans! WE'RE EVERYWHERE! How can humans NOT be involved? Thinking about if they decided to do the film stories taking place in space and only visiting Earth (which is the only way to get a lot less humans), I personally think that would have made it much worse of a movie. Not nearly as entertaining. It's just the newer games & old shows all over again or a Star Wars + Star Trek parody as live action. Then there'd be so much CGI, it may as well be completely animated.
Anyone who says we can only have one new character per movie is completely forgetting the fact tails and knuckles were established in the same film And even if you make an argument, that tales appeared in the post credit scene of the first film, then that means both sonic and tails debut in the same film, which still proves the argument that we can only have one animal character per movie. As the series goes on, I understand that they will need to slow down. The amount of characters brought in, but I’d say two characters per film, isn’t asking for too much as long as there is a decent plot to justify it
@@umzgaming2260 I mean, yeah? Amy is solely one of the reasons why earth is still fucking existing in the sonic series. Shadows' character also developed further thanks to her, and got better. Breaking Sonic out was also extremely important, if he never got out, everything would go to hell.
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
On the idea of “Amy taking too much screen time from Shadow”, if we talk about purely just the cutscenes in Sonic Adventure 2, Shadow probably honestly had the lowest amount of screentime of the main cast, I think even in the original game Amy had more screen time purely by hanging out with Sonic and the others, but Shadow was more of a lone wolf character so even in the dark story he honestly wasn’t on screen as much as the others, but that didn’t make what he got any less notable
You mentioned people who came to the Sonic fandom for Amy Rose. I was one of those. I mean, my friends were playing Sonic when I was younger. But, I never really got interested until I saw Sonic X, and specifically Amy Rose.
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
She's literally my favorite character of the entire Sonic franchaise, i think she DESERVED to be treated as she should, as one of the main 4 core characters. I hate how they always excludes her from the spotlight. She deserves more, even more than Shadow who is'nt even a main character, but he gets so much more than Amy.
@@Kuhory. Well, if Amy will already have very little to shine, Rouge less so, unfortunately, although I heard that Jeff wanted Rouge, but I don't know if her dynamic with Knuckles will be as many expect.
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'd like to see Amy's fangirl and sassy side, it always seemed kind of fun and memorable, I wouldn't even mind if Amy stopped being a fangirl afterwards, but I really miss that very memorable Amy trait, as lately that side of Amy has been lost a lot.
It could work and may be fun if done respectful to Amy's character. I wouldn't mind Amy to be Sonic's fangirl at first too, say, after he saves her. As for sassy side, you probably mistake game Amy from Boom and Fleetway Amy. Sure, fortunately game Amy is sassy now thanks to Frontiers and Tweeter Takeovers, but she wasn't like that in the games until 2022
@@zigzagintrusion Going by that logic sonic could easily be replaced by another character with super speed powers, you can't simply replace Amy, because her personality is the one that fits best, no other character in the sonic cast(besides Cream) would have faith that Shadow could redeem himself in the last minute.
@willbrgamer5137 That's reaching at best. I'm gonna have to agree with the other guy. Getting through to Shadow was the only useful thing Amy did in SA2 as far as the story is concerned. Up until that point, she's just a tag-along. If she is included in the third film, they're gonna have to give her more to do to justify her existence in the movie. She can't just exist solely for that one scene. Otherwise, yeah. They could easily give that role to another character.
Amy has also been very relevant in Sonic media lately too, she’s been in Frontiers, Origins, Superstars, and Dream Team, and she was playable in all those. In Sonic Prime, all her variants had decent roles to play. Murder of Sonic takes place on her birthday. So, she has been getting a lot of time to shine in other media, so I think she should be in movie 3, too. Also, the reason most of us are going to see these movies are for the cartoon talking animals.
I see Amy being introduced as this lonely hedgehog like you said. I believe hedgehogs are a really rare species in this universe so she'd be sort of by herself all these years. The only thing she has is the prophecy of a super powerful hedgehog that so happens to be Sonic(Him having "Nah too boring of a job for me" kinda attitude). She has searched all over the universe just like Tails to meet her hero so she's REALLY passionate for him. She has never been shown love to, yet she demonstrates care for everyone in her path, which will definetly confuse Shadow if their hog to hog talk ever happens. But here's the catch: she is really worried about the future, contrasting with Shadow having to let go his dark past and Sonic's ways of living in the moment (maybe he'll also have to leave Earth or the chaos control thing you said could happen to also go into the "letting go" theme). I also think she's gonna be really excited to understand Planet Earth and be amazed by everything she sees. She might jump into situations without thinking a lot like Sonic, but more so out of curiosity. Also, on the Rouge part of things, I can definetly see them doing some sort of backstory for her. Maybe she had to fought for her life everyday so she became a treasure hunter. She knows how much the Chaos and Master emeralds are worth so she knew she couldnt lose this chance, afterall "All jewels in the world are" hers "to keep!!". I just think this movie will have an overall theme of loss, death, letting go and not be too worried about what's going to happen in the future, just live in the moment As Sonic would say: "Don't turn back, always run forward, and never lose your step!!"
I fully agree, like, there's only 4(or 7 if you count Manic, Sonia and Scourge)that's almost as bad and/or rare as Knuckles being the last Echidna, there's also other species in the franchise that we don't see enough of(Fox, Cat, Bird, etc)
@@YujiUedaFan I did too. But learning how Marvel adding characters, and then throw them in the movies to confuse people who only follow movies. It's better if Knuckles show was a movie with a big budget and stakes. It's a 3 hours miniseries that could've been cut down and tweaked. Come on.
@@sb14andmore50 We have 3 birds (excluding flickies) abd 2 cats (though one is from another dimension). Lately we also saw two more Foxes in Sonic Origins (also in Sonic Prime as a cameo).
@@YujiUedaFanThat's why I said rare, there's barely any other same species of characters in the franchise, we have Jet, Wave and Storm as the birds, we have Big and Blaze as the Cats, and those two foxes in Origins/Prime were nothing more but to show that, before Tails met Sonic, he was bullied because of his features(his two tails)
Sonic the hedgehog 3 is the PERFECT movie to add Amy and rouge idk what else to say ngl other than this would be the perfect movie to introduce them in considering they both had pretty big roles in sonic adventure 2 which the 3rd movie is going to be heavily based on
I honestly think Amy’s would be fun character to have she can be strong but let her have fun and be important,she’s also a a core member to team sonic!!!
I can think of many reasons why she should be in the movie. 1. Her appearance alone would complete the classic cast 2. We’re most likely saying goodbye to eggman because Jim Carrey is retiring after this movie. If We’re saying goodbye to our main villain, we need to have the whole main cast on screen. 3. Sega and Nintendo are competitors, and peach is in the Mario movie. If Saga wants to one up Mario, wouldn’t it make sense to have their pink character on screen? 3. Amy is sonic best female friend next to tail; even if she’s not seen as a love interest, they have always been good friends. 4. Amy is flexible enough that even if she’s just along for the ride, she can work with a small role, so she wouldn’t hog that much screen time from shadow, especially when she wasn’t given that much screen time in the game, but was still important. 5. Amy can easily be the selfless but vulnerable person to bridge the gap between sonic and shadow because she teaches and reminds them what love is.
Canon wise and lore wise, Amy was Sonic's first friend before Tails and was introduced before Knuckles. You can't make up a Sonic team or movie without her, same way you can't do it without tails and knuckles. other exmaples; you cant make up avengers without blackwidow or hulk.
yeah i too am tired of them trying to turn Amy into Sally instead of letting her be her own thing. Sega 100% owns Sally anyway so if we REALLY need a "girlboss," do we need to mangle an existing character into that mold?
The unfortunate thing is Sally's like garbage to Sega and they want her to be completely forgotten, so making Amy girlboss and leader of the resistance is normal because it's new to Sega of Japan. But I kinda agree, aside from obsession with Sonic we need all the previous traits should stay with her like short temper. I just hope Amy stays consistently well-written character and she wouldn't be treated just as gag like in 2000's games and Sonic X
If Amy Rose is not in the third movie, I'm not only going to be EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED, but I may also have to do everything in my power to make the name Amy Rose bigger than any other character in this franchise. Seriously, she BETTER be in this movie, and I don't mean to sound like an ignorant little kid when I say that, but nothing can piss me off more than Amy being REMOVED from anything Sonic. I'd rather see a poorly written Amy than not see her at all.
So, here's how I'd do it: - She comes to Earth guided by her cards. She’s a dreamer inn search of adventure - Her power is to summon and empower her hammer - She gets in trouble because she knows nothing about Earth, Sonic saves her and she falls in love. Sonic gets nervous and runs away, thought. - Have your Sonic vs Shadow fight, Shadow mops the floor with Sonic, Tails and Knuckles. - Amy eventually meets and befriends Shadow, while Sonic teams up with Robotnik. - At the end of act 2, Robotnik betrays Sonic and used the combined quills of Sonic, Shadow and Knuckles to power Metal Sonic. - Metal Sonic beats Sonic and Shadow because they can’t work together. When they manage to escape him, he kidnaps Amy - 3rd act is to rescue Amy, while Robotnik is preparing something big for the world - Final fight is a hedgehog fest: Sonic, Shadow and Amy vs Metal Sonic, while Knuckles and Tails try to stop Robotnik’s greater plan - Amy makes Sonic and Shadow to work together. Robotnik is stopped but too late. - Inspired by Amy, Shadow sacrifices himself to save the world. - Post credits reveal Shadow survived. At least those are my hopes.
I do hope Amy and Rouge shows up in Sonic 3, but it feels unlikely. Especially learning that Jeff Fowler isn't a fan of Rouge and he wrote for the Sonic movies so it's concerning. I love Amy. She's one of my favorites (honestly I didn't mind the change in Sonic X with Chris taken Amy's place, would be great if it was a combined effort with Chris & Amy, as another Human character is like Maria exists in present and destroyed the world would destroy another human like Maria and Amy stating the same words and pointed it towards Chris would've be a nice detail to that scene) and I hope she gets the respect she deserves. I do dislike how they're handling Amy nowadays. I love how unapologetic Amy is with showing her love for Sonic, though at times SEGA went overboard with how she acted, which is where the fans pointing it out and they course corrected too hard. Amy is really an incredible character when you really take a moment to understand her character. EDIT: I would love to see more Human OCs in Sonic stories. Heck, I WISHED there was a Human Avatar with no abilities for a fun change in Sonic Forces. But alas... no dice. I mean both Sonic animals and Humans co-exist in the same world after (which is confirmed in Tails Tube).
@@insecure8926 I have the comics. Not all of them, but the early ones. I love the one where Sonic is looking for Amy and she instantly shows up and Sonic comments "And like clockwork she appears. How does she do that?" which I find very funny.
She’s a long shot for sure, but someday, I would love to see Cream the Rabbit make an appearance in a Sonic movie. It’s also a great potential for the more “adult” Sonic characters-Vanilla and Vector in particular-to hang out with the human adults. Vector is a detective after all. Maybe he can help with Chris’s police work?
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
@@Sammy-34079 I feel like you are a bot at this point, considering noone talks about Minnie and Lola, and this comment barely talked about Amy but rather Vanilla, Cream and Vector or a kid that likes to spam an opinion into unrelated things...
i like the idea of amy disliking humanity. like you said, one possibility is that amy’s been on earth since she was a kid just like sonic, but she didn’t have her own human friends. maybe she was outcasted or experimented on or something like that. she wouldn’t hate humans like shadow, but she would be far more weary of them. over the course of the film she gradually gets closer to and begins to trust her human allies. she uses this experience at the end of the film to reason with shadow. boom, tied it all together.
Amy is funny, she's mad, she's hilariously violent, she is cute, she is good hearted. In other words she is complicated and entertaining. A woman who can overpower or match any of the male characters, who is radically empathetic and yet full of flaws is far better than the marketable Mary Sues Hollywood has been giving us for years. I mistrust people who hate Amy because sooner or later they out themselves as misogynists. Let her be annoying and paranoid - that's her thing! She is also the one who saved the world by reminding Shadow of Maria, and her SA1 story arc is perhaps the best written in the game. Justice for Amy!
Amy needs to appear in the film, in fact, I think she would have more importance throughout the franchise than Rouge. Hoping to see the pink hedgehog! 💙
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
I miss How females were Written 20 years ago were falling in love was not considered a weakness While yes, following love, should not be the only goal for a woman or anyone for that matter it should not be looked down on. And Princess peach in the Mario brothers movie is one of A few examples of a healthy girl boss. With justification of being Better than the male lead at something
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
Me too. 😭 I’m actually pretty nervous that we’re so close to the movie’s release and we haven’t heard anything about Amy. I really hope they’ll surprise us with her inclusion in the upcoming trailer.
@@shivasthong4924 I completely get that. Also I think people are severely underestimating how important Amy and Rouge were to Shadow's story. How can they do a proper Shadow story without them?
She will be in it. It just doesn’t make sense for her not to be in it since Sonic showing friendship to Shadow won’t work, on how he did it with knuckles in sonic movie 2. It also wouldn’t make any sense replacing her with another character to consult him. She is the heart of the team after all and she can be represented. On what people have never seen in her a good way of what people never expected of her. This movie can also express and show something new on Sonic and Amy relationship and the movie and her relationship with others as well.
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
You're so right about the comparison to other HUGE animated properties. No matter what people say, things like the Mario Movie or certain Disney/Pixar/Dreamworks films are MASSIVELY successful. Anyone who says having more animated characters would harm the movie has no idea what they're talking about, or simply can't envision how to make it work properly. That doesn't mean that the filmmakers and writers can't do it or shouldn't try. That being said, here is a list of characters that should appear in Sonic 3: Froggy Scratch and Grounder Rob O' Hedge Tails Doll Marine the Raccoon Fish (from Sonic Adventure)
I mean, there are also animated movies that are far less successful than their live action counterpart. So that's not really the deciding factor in terms of success.
Scratcher and Grounder is replaced by Agent Stone for this interpterion of Eggman. Realistically for the list of characters to appear would be Amy Rose and Rouge. Big and Froggy as a cameo like SA2 did.
And I do say that some of the people that are saying we don’t need Amy are the people that ship Sonadow (which I don’t really have an opinion about.) A lot of those fans don’t like Amy.
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I definitely agree that A. Amy would be great for more female representation to reach the younger demographic, but Amy's character is more than just being a gaga fan girl. Her "all loving spirit" shows her as the literal heart of the franchise. Amy's character helps give Sonic compassion. Each of the characters bring out something like that; Tails: Responsibility Knuckles: Strength Shadow: Maturity. Amy shows to Sonic that to truly help people, it's just to slow down and be emotional support. Especially since movie Sonic is more emotive than game Sonic, because there are little writing restrictions.
Amy and Rouge both need to be in that film - I find it horrifying how female characters are being mistreated due to stereotypical gender beliefs and they both play core roles in SA2B for heck’s name. Amy has developed not only as a character but a female role model throughout her time being in the sonic brand and while rouge debuted in SA2B, that does not make either of them any less valuable. I think it would be criminal if the producers left either one of them out. Personally, I adore BOTH female characters and when I watched the sonic films, it was for sonic, tails, knuckles, Eggman and not for the other human characters. I am sure that there are many other people with similar tastes on who they want to watch but it would be wrong for Amy’s and Rouges roles to not be added.
Anyone claiming the Sonic cast are too "alienating" for audiences are clueless or insane. Cute, superpowered animal friends is the most textbook definition of 'crowd pleaser' imaginable. Becase Disney, Dreamworks, Illumination, Pixar...charming animation is literally their business model, why are we pretending this is different JUST for Paramount?
It really seems like these people are desperate to find any reason to deflect criticism of the sonic movies despite the obvious flaws they have, the knuckles series is a great example of this.
Who is claiming this, and is there actually enough of a presence from them to care? I swear this just the classic shadow cannon nonsense all over again.
I'm pretty confident we'll get at least one animal girl introduced in Sonic movie 3. If they really wanted to surprise us, it might be Cream. But I doubt that since she's paired with Blaze. I believe it'll be Amy and/or Rouge. Seeing a Chao or two would be cool too.
Something I would love to see in the Sonic Movie 3 is Amy being a badass with Sonic being the one crushing on her, obviusly Sonic would still be the main character obviusly, Sonic and Amy would be awsome working togheter...
I've not agreed with the "Amy would make it too crowded" argument but still took it for granted to some extent, and figured it would still be beneficial to just focus on Shadow, but the point about screentime you made actually kind of crushes that perspective. Shadow does not need to be a protagonist whose perspective we follow to leave a huge impression, and whenever he's not on screen there's surely going to be plenty of time to fill. Amy is one of my favorite Sonic characters at the moment and I hope she's done justice! It really makes less sense to ignore her than it does to find any reason to make her a part of this world already.
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
She’s the embodiment of love and kindness that doesn’t get hardened by battle. Even after the dreaded metal virus, she is still the positive and uplifting one, but not in a way that’s unrealistic. She still holds out hope that things will turn out.
Yeah, yeah. The haters don’t want the pink hedgehog that’s ULTRA iconic in sonic because they want to see the sexy bat in the big screen. That’s just bad. #AmyInSonicMovie3
I never understood the Amy hate. Especially outside the Sonic Fandom. With the resurgence of Amy in the cast in Frontiers and Superstars, I wouldn't be surprised if Sega would do something with her. I wish we were given some more details about Sonic 3 though.
People only hate Amy because of how she was in Sonic Heroes until Generations. Sonic Boom was the first time Amy became the group mum/bossy girl (though Sonic Boom Amy took it further than main series Amy).
@@naitsabes6222 Amy in the mid 2000s: SONIC I WANT YOUR BABIES! Amy in the last 10 years: **Literally the group mum** Sonic fans now: Amy sucks! She's such a stalker!
I AM SO GLAD I CLICKED ON THIS VID! there are so many people who completely misunderstand Amy’s character! AND IT DRIVES ME UP THE WALL! I’ve always looked up to her, she’s definitely the type of character that young girls and boys would be happy to see on screen! She’s just such an important part of the main four and if she were in the third instalment, having her play such an important role like turning shadow?! It would be crazy not to have her in the story! Of course if she wasn’t, I’d still be happy with just shadow, sonic and the rest but from my point of view, I personally feel it would be too similar to the second movie but aside from that, I’m so glad that this amazing, kind and strong Character is getting the recognition she most absolutely deserves! #JUSTICEFORAMYROSE!! ❤
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
Amy is one of my favorite characters so i really hope she's in it. Also I think the way amys personality is portrayed in sonic adventure 1&2 was peak Amy sonic heros went a little wild with her
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
@@Sammy-34079 who on earth is Lola bunny? And also Amy's personality at least in sonic adventure 1&2 and heros, amy is very memorable. Amy is a rather interesting twist on the often damsel in distress she does get help from sonic, but is often capable herself unlike peach from super mario. (I have no problem with peach I'm just using her as an example)
While Amy has already justfied her role in Sonic 3, I would munch prefer her in her own flick where she can be the real star and not be over shadowed by Shadow
Thats true… which is why i think sa1 movie woulve been better before sa2 movie, that way we can introduce others like amy and such in a way that it connects more to the sa2 movie
If she did get her own spin off film it would probably be about her going on a road trip with wade's annoying fbi sister who would be the actual main focus on the film
22:28: I mean, I think there's already been, EXTREMELY SUBTLE, set-up done: Amy Rose, in these movies, came to Earth, became a pre-teen shadow real estate maven, giving her name to a human as cover for...30%, and Maddie stayed at one of her Zillow properties. Sonic 3 is set...4-5 years after her arrival. Sonic speeds past that property early in Sonic 3, seeing a pink hedgehog in a window for a second, and then...the GUN truck happens, for Action Scene #1. After the action scene, Sonic gets his "one phone call", to Tails, telling him about Amy. Tails has made a big techno hammer, which he puts in the plane he's made. Picks up Amy, flies to Prison Island, Amy sees the hammer and grabs it before leaping out of the plane and then: Action Scene #2: Amy smashing down walls and robots to save a hero. Amy can even laugh at Tails, "You think I don't know my way around a hammer!? I. WORK. IN. REAL. ESTATE! Now, let's get to the reno!"
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.!!!!
I personally the idea that Sonic could have met Amy when they were kids, like when he went to get the flower for Longclaw. How she gets to Earth while keeping true to the games? Not sure, but I trust them to come up with something. People are so hyped for Shadow, they forget this is a SONIC movie. With how much focus Knuckles got, the second movie still followed Sonic, and also Robotnik. And like you said, there’s not a lot of female representation in these movies. That’s something that definitely needs to be expanded on.
I hope Amy is in Sonic 3. I mean, they introduced Tails at the end of the first movie, and then the second movie not only had him, but also Knuckles. If Sonic 2 teased Shadow, then he comes back for the third movie, doesn’t that also mean they could bring Amy in as well?
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
Amy would make sense in this movie, we've had Tails as the good guy character with knuckles as the bad guy character. Make Amy the good intro. While we're at it, introduce Rouge as a neutral character initially appearing to be siding with Robotnik and Shadow. But then being a hired gun for G.U.N. Maybe have Amy looking for Tails and knows him, but stumbles on the case and develops a crush on Sonic.
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
Not as much as before, but I still think people overdo it. I hated her too when I was much younger, but now I realize that Amy really was a great character, as well as funny, I never really took her "bad moments" that seriously.
The movie wasn't changed at all. They only changed the model of sonic, it wasn't THAT insane! They would have to redo almost everything to include her, don't you think that's ridiculous?
@@yucelonmaz2 I know I just meant in the next movie (if they make a fourth one). I've already thought about it and yea it's not possible for them to change it after it's already been made.
I said "they should put her in the franchise" not "they should scrap the whole movie". I'm actually really excited to watch sonic 3 cause I'm a big shadow fan. it's just silly to me that they haven't introduced Amy yet considering she is one of the OGs :/
PREACH! People treat old Amy like she was a kanker sister or something and it made me really sad. She has a big heart with a lot of room for everybody in it
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.!!!!!!
@@nellewoodruff6337 Minnie Mouse is superior to that dumpster fire Amy Rose. Sega's attempts are just plain mediocre. Disney's iconic mouse has charm, wit, and character that Sonic's sad attempts could only dream of. So, sorry if it hurts, but Minnie Mouse reigns supreme. Amy Rose? Just a mere wannabe.
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
Amy is one of the most important characters in the Sonic franchise. Not having her would be like the Mario movies not having Yoshi, but let's instead stuff it with average New Yorkers who stumble across the pipe and go on adventures with the Mario Bros. Yoshi will be in the second movie, so no, this isn't a bad example.
I see your points and agree that Amy plays an important role in Shadow's story but I would also argue that Sonic Adventure 2 had the luxury of being 9 hours long in comparison to the movie likely being 2 hours at most and we also have to consider potential stories that would be emphasized outside of Shadow like developing Sonic's heroism and empathy, Tails developing his independence, Robotnik learning about his Grandfather, the organization that controlled Project Shadow, and possible flashbacks to Maria and Shadow being on the arc; I would love to see Amy and Rouge in the movie but I feel like the movie already has a lot of arcs to juggle already and adding in Amy can result in a more muddled story that falls short of expectations. I would disagree that Amy's direction is extreme in the new games because in Frontiers Amy is vulnerable, caring while also willing to stand up for what she believes in and loving Sonic but the difference between her character now and her depictions from Heroes to Generations is that modern Amy is allowed to have interests outside of Sonic, able to hold fun conversation with him that showcases a meaningful dynamic, and emphasizing her own values in comparison to her having a rather one dimensional dynamic that didn't progress the story or the characters while leaving her more empathetic qualities behind in SA 1 and SA 2; the IDW comics are also a good example of how here character has progressed in the Modern Era of Sonic.
I don’t know if this is an unpopular opinion, but Amy is my third favorite character in the entire franchise and I actually like her more than Sonic, Tails, & Knuckles. I’ll admit there are a lot of games where she is poorly written (for me I think they lost side of her character between sonic heroes and sonic free riders) when she is well written, she is one of the most inspiring heroes in the series. She longs for adventure and excitement, just like Sonic. But unlike her crush, Amy is not in a hurry to get from the place. She will actually slow down and take the time to help people individually solve their issues. Whether that’s helping a lost Sungazer, Reuniting a bird with its family, or helping a long departed spirit reunite with its one true love she puts the needs of others before herself, no matter how crucial or minor the issue is
I can't really give her rank, but she's my favorite Sonic female character with a ton of untapped potential. Whether people like her or not, but she's the face of the franchise along with main 3 boys(screw Shadow hype). I see Amy as a little twisted version of Sonic. They both see the good in people and like to have all the excitement from life, it's just Amy's likings is having comfortable house and lay back once in a while just enjoying ordinary routine. I just hope we get Amy stories that aren't focused on Sonic and let us see her potential
She is my third favorite to in sonic, I don't like the new personality given to her nowadays. Besides people keep forgetting she Japanese character is not an American character. I get that sonic is popular in America that he doesn't make for America.
Fun fact: For those who didn't already know, Amy's debut game, Sonic CD, released in 1993, whilst Knuckles debuted in 1994. Amy debuted FIRST, so it's only fair that she get introduced! I think the Knuckles series would've been a REALLY great place to introduce her, but eh, what's happened has happened.
Amy was useless in Sonic CD. There was no reason to include Amy in that game. Amy in the Knuckles show would add yet another unfunny gimmick
@@ling8956 Almost as if that was her introductory game.
@@dragondelsur5156 And, Timeline wise(if we go by origins)Amy was Sonic first friend before he met Taiis
@@sb14andmore50 That's true.
@@ling8956 you're not that smart are you?
Amy embodied the same love and empathy as Maria- that's why she was the only one who could reach Shadow. It wasn't just "oh right, maybe humans aren't evil" it was hearing Maria's own words coming from someone else, knowing her wish wasn't dead. If anyone else is given that role the scene loses all meaning.
By your own definition the importance is the emotion behind the words. Not really the person who said them.
@@fightingmedialounge519Well that, and Amy was very similar to Maria. She goes above and beyond to see the best in people (after E-102 Gamma proved to her it was possible), so she trusted Shadow to do the right thing. I know Gamma isn't in the movies either, but it's just an observation I made.
This is why it's considered to be butchered in Sonic X. They had Chris do this instead of Amy. It has to be Amy that does it in order to have the full effect.
I swear if they have Wade do that scene in the movie...
@@superplushroompower-up we barely know Maria. Her similarity with Amy begins and end with being kind.
@@TheSultan1470 Because nobody really cares about a human character being in that role. People wanted Amy to be the one to have that conversation with Shadow like in the game.
Didn’t know that Amy was still getting hate, I thought we left that back in the 2000’s
Some of it’s from the fans that ship Sonadow…
@@iam_alanaf6206 as with any popular ship...... in popular fandoms, ain't nobody else stopping sonamy or knuxouge either
@@iam_alanaf6206 of course. Those fucking weirdos. When will they realize that Sonadow needs to die and is a weird ship?
@@iam_alanaf6206 not really
@@iam_alanaf6206 ima be real. Most Sonic ships are stupid asl
Whenever people say “It would take precious screen time from Shadow” just remind them that shadow only has four levels and a handful of bosses in sonic adventure two and still left the biggest impact in the game
true! Shadow is about 1/6th of the game. He’s proof that you can make a HUGE impact with not a lot of screen time.
Shadow was supposed to be dead at the end of SA2 and his character arc went nowhere afterwards.
That's true and the fans loved him so much that Sega brought him back having us think was he real or fake all along until his own game confirmed to us that he was the real Shadow all along thanks Eggman!
@@gutembergnery7985Yeah, people seem to glace over the fact that Heroes never acknowledged if Shadow was a robot or the real deal, it was just Rouge being all like "Shadow *COULD* be a robot or he could be the real thing"
@@sb14andmore50 yeah pretty much
I'm happy you talked about her being a damsel in destress. From how I saw it, she was a damsel in distress in the first game she was introduced, and when she was saved by sonic she was inspired to be a hero like him. Her love for sonic is what started her development. Sonic isn't her only personality trait but he is a very important part.
Wasn't established in cd that she had totem cards that could predict the future
@@jskywalker58 well I think those are just a hobby of hers and not something super serious
@@chanabanannaanimations6884 Tell that to Frontiers.
@@dragondelsur5156 bro I wish I could
SA1-Heroes, Sonic is Amy's only character trait. Unfunny
Finally someone who knows what he's talking about, my respect.
Hell yeah, Toonsite! I know your stuff. The artwork in your animations is so nice!
Hell, I didn't expect to find You here Toonsite.
@@ChannelPupAmy Rose deserves her time to shine! Seriously, she needs to talk to Shadow about Maria's wish.
@@toonsitelatam exactly! The fandom are a bunch of idiots its nice to see this channel user with a brain
I mean if people think Amy doesn’t matter and doesn’t need to be in these movies than they don’t know a thing about her since she’s one of the most important Sonic characters, and with the 3rd movie adapting SA2 then it’d be really odd for her to not show up when she’s an essential part of Shadow’s arc, she’s literally the person that got Shadow to remember his true promise to Maria and get him back to the good side, if it wasn’t for Amy, the heroes might’ve had less of a chance at stopping the Ark and even if they still did, Shadow would still be against them instead of with them, saying Amy doesn’t matter and doesn’t need to be in these movies is just kinda dumb (which goes for Rouge too)
If Amy's not in Sonic Movie 3 I will be incredibly disappointed.
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
Bad news
@@Sammy-34079 Who said anything about Disney or Looney toons-? Let them have their opinion instead of bringing in characters that weren't even mentioned.
@@Sammy-34079 where did Minnie and Lola come from? 💀
@@Sammy-34079Minnie and Lola?? 😭 where your head at bro
Amy is basically the fourth member of Team Sonic at this point. Her not being in Sonic movie 3 would be the most surprising thing in my life.
she's technically the second (in canon) member before knuckles arrived, so knuckles is the 4th actually😅
@@Zayd-u4k 🤣
@@Zayd-u4k Didn’t Knuckles first appear in Sonic 3 before Amy appeared Sonic CD or is Sonic CD and then Sonic 3?
@@j-dawg859 the canon goes like this: Sonic 1, Sonic CD, Sonic 2, Sonic 3, so Amy was actually Sonic's first P2 and even the games show that Sonic 3 was the last 2D game to feature a Team Sonic member, that being Knuckles
She might be at the end post credits scene, maybe they're saving her up for a Sonic CD adaptation with Metal Sonic
Sonic movie fans are the type of people to say Amy would steal shadows screen time then be cheering and applauding at the honeymoon scene between Rachel and her husband 😂
You seem to be thinking of two separate crowds there
@@fightingmedialounge519Agreed. And I'm pretty sure the latter group doesn't even exist.
@TheHallow31 Oh no, they do
@@christopherford39 Wait, really? Weird.
@@christopherford39 yeah, but they also don't really think about amy or shadow in relation to screen time.
I have always loved Amy Rose since I was a kid watching Sonic X, so seeing this type of hate towards her sucks tbh.
Sonic x version of amy is the one i got introduced to, than sa1 and sa2 and such, and it was the amy i knew
@@SonicTheHedgehogX15 Every time I see her, I always hear Lisa Ortiz’s wonderful voice. She’s still my favorite Amy voice right next to Cindy Robinson because she’s been getting even better lately. 🩷
@@tonymata8070Jennifer Doulliard, Lisa Ortiz, Cindy Robinson, and Shannon Chan-Kent are amazing voices for Amy Rose! But Lisa Ortiz and Cindy Robinson are mostly my favorites.😍💕
Maybe the hate SOME people give her is justified.
@@IamQuietKrys What do you mean SOME hate? The reasonings people give are either wrong, hypocritical or fueled by mysoginy.
If they're not including Amy because "loves Sonic" that's incredibly dumb. Amy hasn't been obsessed with Sonic since Generations! It shows that the creators haven't looked at a Sonic game or show since Sonic Battle.
Lol that’s 95% everyone of the fanbase they act like Amy is this “physco obbssesed sonic stalker” unironically not even as a joke , lord Amy even when hasn’t shown any affection for sonic it’s not good enough, people want her to act like this boring mature mom of the group 🤣
@@naitsabes6222 I'd rather her be the mum of the group if it means she's included TBH. Also her shift in character was due to Sonic Forces and having to mature quickly when Sonic was away.
@@YujiUedaFanI wish they actually established that but they sadly didn’t which is so baffling it would make so much sense for the happy bubbly girl to have her tone and attitude completely change after being in a war were she thought her hero died , but nope people say Amy changed becuase sonci didn’t want their stalking her no more I’m like yeah sure that’s why Amy would change 😂
@@naitsabes6222 I like my HC more since it makes a lot more sense than a sudden shift.
@YujiUedaFan maybe if the movies didn't make sonic a goofy dipshit, amy wouldn't have to be the "mature" one
In Sonic Adventure 2, its such a weirdly powerful cutscene seeing Amy of all people getting through to Shadow so deeply. Such a defining character moment. One of my favourite characters and I've missed her hammer play-style in Sonic Adventure 1 lol. I'd love to see that continuing dynamic between her and shadow in the Sonic 3rd movie.
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Didn't think I'd see a PhantomStrider comment on a Channel Pup video. Nice to see. Also I hope that dynamic becomes a thing in Sonic The Hedgehog 3.
@@Sammy-34079 Why are you here if you hate the Sonic franchise?
This entire video explains Amy's character, a living characture would be Peach from the Mario franchise.
@@Sammy-34079 Minnie is literally way more of a characture than Amy is.
@@PlumpProductions-wj3jpespecially from a bigger marketing company that isn’t mainly focused on producing video games
I actually agree with this take 100%. Both Amy AND Rouge are key characters in the franchise, at least one of them should be introduced in the movie universe so they can play some kind of role in shadow’s story, otherwise the studio isn’t really using the IP to its fullest.
Also the people that say that Amy shouldn’t be in the movie come from Twitter. Pup you should know by now that you won’t ever find smart opinions on Twitter.
I didn't hate the knuckles show, but I do agree Knuckles didn't get enough focus or character development to do, it feels outta nowhere when he say "this is my home." I definitely agree they should've incorporated more lore or characters from the games to feed the sonic fans
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Personally, I got it. He did get some good character development. He learned how to relax & enjoy more types of entertainment. Someone who has spent their whole life fighting with ONE goal take a long time to figure out how to settle down or even realize they SHOULD settle down.
Wade is also now wiser and more experienced, (him & Knuckles are literally Sokka & his swordsman teacher,) G.U.N was more properly integrated, we have characters to connect to G.U.N in a way that kinda *forshadows* Rouge appearing at some point with how that lady knows so much about Knuckles & other aliens.
Speaking of the #1 Knucks himself (seriously, he's my favorite, and here I am defending his "lack" of screen time), most if not all times Knuckles wasn't focused as much as Wade, he wasn't really doing anything. He was either just chilling, or was just doing something that wasn't as important at the moment as what was going on with Wade. I agree in that I wish we did get to see more Knucks, and it does feel like some stuff could've been done better, but I also see now that they did the best they could with all that was going on.
Honestly, I hope we get to see more of Wade's mom; she was awesome, she's badass, and I think she did the most in helping Knuckles get in much character development, and I. LOVE IT. Knuckles was losing a sense of purpose, and I love how helping Wade and his fam helped himself as a person in return. He has a new sense of purpose now, and honestly, I think bringing Amy in would've REALLY taken that away.
Knuckles & Wade got enough spotlight in there already, we DO NOT need any new MAJOR CHARACTERS in an f-ing MINI SERIES! 😂
Then you'd have a HUGE reason to complain about with screentime! "Omg Amy stole the show, it was supposed to be Knuckles! Wade was already enough! 😭😫"
Oh and let's not forget the ton of Easter eggs, all we learned about knucks' past, then there's more about G.U.N's spotlight importance I didn't mention, and other things that actually make more than 80% of the series worth being the way it is.
And with the problem of "too many humans"... I think they're getting better at making humans feel better in the universe. The G.U.N agent dude is very interesting. Like bro's a killer with pent up bloodlust. Then also of course Mrs. Whipple, Tom, Robotnic & Stone, the kids, and the whole epic wedding crash take-back think. And now just the way any of the Sonic trio react to anyone is enough for me for the most part. 😂
And c'mon. These aliens are literally coming to OUR planet which is FULL of humans! WE'RE EVERYWHERE! How can humans NOT be involved? Thinking about if they decided to do the film stories taking place in space and only visiting Earth (which is the only way to get a lot less humans), I personally think that would have made it much worse of a movie. Not nearly as entertaining. It's just the newer games & old shows all over again or a Star Wars + Star Trek parody as live action. Then there'd be so much CGI, it may as well be completely animated.
I know right, but since the focus was mostly on Wade, it should have been called, “Wade Wipple and knuckles.”
@@Classy2Camno CALL THAT WADE WIPPLE SHOW!!!
Anyone who says we can only have one new character per movie is completely forgetting the fact tails and knuckles were established in the same film
And even if you make an argument, that tales appeared in the post credit scene of the first film, then that means both sonic and tails debut in the same film, which still proves the argument that we can only have one animal character per movie. As the series goes on, I understand that they will need to slow down. The amount of characters brought in, but I’d say two characters per film, isn’t asking for too much as long as there is a decent plot to justify it
Not to mention that Sonic and Eggman were ALSO established together in the first movie!
Pfft! It's as if they think the Sonic series should be *sigh* a sausage fest.
@@aliminator1310Well, you can't exactly have a Sonic series *WITHOUT* Eggman
@@sb14andmore50and let's see what will they do when Eggman's actor doesn't apear anymore because he's gonna leave before this new movie
1.Sonic And Dr Robotnik
2.Tails And Knuckles
3.Amy and Shadow (Maybe)
Amy is an important character. She needs to be in the 3rd movie.
And what is she gonna do, break Sonic out, confront Shadow and become a love interest to Sonic?
@@umzgaming2260 She does not need to be the "Hero" of the movie, not sure about loved or how the movie should deal with their "Relationship".
@@umzgaming2260 I mean, yeah? Amy is solely one of the reasons why earth is still fucking existing in the sonic series. Shadows' character also developed further thanks to her, and got better. Breaking Sonic out was also extremely important, if he never got out, everything would go to hell.
@@umzgaming2260 Put a little imagination, dude, you all know the movie is not going to be a complete SA2 retell.
That’s too many characters
Amy deserves respect like other female heroes. As a true Amy fan, I love Amy!
I'm an Amy Fan too!😄💕
This is seconded
I completely agree, I believe Amy is the heart of Team Sonic that could really hold the form of them together in future film installments.
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
@@Sammy-34079toxic Mickey Mouse fan keep ur opinion to ur self and don’t comment on people that like any Sonic character
Amy and Rouge played important roles to both Sonic and Shadow. People who think they should NOT be in the movie are just wrong.
Right?! They're essential to Shadow's backstory. Unless they add in Omega early, who the hell's going to kick Shadow out of his death spiral?
I absolutely agree
Agreed
I agree
I'd argue Amy's scene with Shadow is the most impactful thing she's ever done in the franchise
If Sonic 2 can have Tails and Knuckles, Then I don’t see what’s wrong with including Shadow and Amy in the third movie
Cause Rouge probably gets introduced too…
@@Tailstheflame unfortunately team sonic decided to trust eggman
On the idea of “Amy taking too much screen time from Shadow”, if we talk about purely just the cutscenes in Sonic Adventure 2, Shadow probably honestly had the lowest amount of screentime of the main cast, I think even in the original game Amy had more screen time purely by hanging out with Sonic and the others, but Shadow was more of a lone wolf character so even in the dark story he honestly wasn’t on screen as much as the others, but that didn’t make what he got any less notable
SONIC FANS WHEN SHADOW WONT BE ON SCREEN FOR 2 SECONDS😡😡😡🤬😡😡🤬😡🤬😡😡🤬😡
@@kieranpleaseforgiveme They're all Shadow boot lickers
You mentioned people who came to the Sonic fandom for Amy Rose. I was one of those. I mean, my friends were playing Sonic when I was younger. But, I never really got interested until I saw Sonic X, and specifically Amy Rose.
That's how it was for me too
Seeing people talk smack about my favorite pink hedgehog breaks my heart 💔
Same 😭
@@iam_alanaf6206 🥺
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
@@Sammy-34079 You must be fun at parties
@@AvaRoseishere69 I be surprised if the guy is even invited to one
She's literally my favorite character of the entire Sonic franchaise, i think she DESERVED to be treated as she should, as one of the main 4 core characters. I hate how they always excludes her from the spotlight. She deserves more, even more than Shadow who is'nt even a main character, but he gets so much more than Amy.
JUST IMAGINE HOW MANY GIRLS WILL ASK THEIR PARENTS TO BUY AMY MERCH AFTER SEEING THE MOVIE 😢 WE NEED AMY IN THE MOVIE!!
(andRougetoo-)
That would be awesome to see as well as for rouge, it so much easy money for paramount that’s why I’m not sure they wouldn’t want to add them
I highly doubt Rouge will show up, however Amy is much more marketable and appealing to little girls.
@@Xenox02-vu9rq it'll hurt me if Rouge doesn't appear,,, i really wanna see a Rouge and Knuckles interaction 😢
@@naitsabes6222 Come on, Paramount! covered b00bs don't hurt anyone 😭😭😭
@@Kuhory. Well, if Amy will already have very little to shine, Rouge less so, unfortunately, although I heard that Jeff wanted Rouge, but I don't know if her dynamic with Knuckles will be as many expect.
JUSTICE FOR AMY!
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Yes
SONAMY!!!!
@@NinjaGirl490yes SonAmy forever 💙💖
@@SuperMartinezGamers6.1SONAMY!!!!🤩😍
@@IceeBaconThe characters don't have official ages anymore
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'd like to see Amy's fangirl and sassy side, it always seemed kind of fun and memorable, I wouldn't even mind if Amy stopped being a fangirl afterwards, but I really miss that very memorable Amy trait, as lately that side of Amy has been lost a lot.
It could work and may be fun if done respectful to Amy's character. I wouldn't mind Amy to be Sonic's fangirl at first too, say, after he saves her.
As for sassy side, you probably mistake game Amy from Boom and Fleetway Amy. Sure, fortunately game Amy is sassy now thanks to Frontiers and Tweeter Takeovers, but she wasn't like that in the games until 2022
Amy is literally why Shadow gave up destroying earth in the first place, why would she not appear in the third movie?
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Because her role can easily be retconned and given to someone else lol I hope she shows up tho!
@@zigzagintrusion
Going by that logic sonic could easily be replaced by another character with super speed powers, you can't simply replace Amy, because her personality is the one that fits best, no other character in the sonic cast(besides Cream) would have faith that Shadow could redeem himself in the last minute.
@@willbrgamer5137Chris literally filled in Amy’s role for that moment in Sonic X.
@willbrgamer5137 That's reaching at best. I'm gonna have to agree with the other guy. Getting through to Shadow was the only useful thing Amy did in SA2 as far as the story is concerned. Up until that point, she's just a tag-along.
If she is included in the third film, they're gonna have to give her more to do to justify her existence in the movie. She can't just exist solely for that one scene. Otherwise, yeah. They could easily give that role to another character.
Amy has also been very relevant in Sonic media lately too, she’s been in Frontiers, Origins, Superstars, and Dream Team, and she was playable in all those.
In Sonic Prime, all her variants had decent roles to play.
Murder of Sonic takes place on her birthday.
So, she has been getting a lot of time to shine in other media, so I think she should be in movie 3, too.
Also, the reason most of us are going to see these movies are for the cartoon talking animals.
Same reason transformers fans watch transformers, it’s for the robots not the humans, I’m looking at you Michael Bay
Don't forget 1995-2010, This is not her first time being playable in sonic media 😡💢🙎♀️
I see Amy being introduced as this lonely hedgehog like you said. I believe hedgehogs are a really rare species in this universe so she'd be sort of by herself all these years. The only thing she has is the prophecy of a super powerful hedgehog that so happens to be Sonic(Him having "Nah too boring of a job for me" kinda attitude). She has searched all over the universe just like Tails to meet her hero so she's REALLY passionate for him. She has never been shown love to, yet she demonstrates care for everyone in her path, which will definetly confuse Shadow if their hog to hog talk ever happens. But here's the catch: she is really worried about the future, contrasting with Shadow having to let go his dark past and Sonic's ways of living in the moment (maybe he'll also have to leave Earth or the chaos control thing you said could happen to also go into the "letting go" theme). I also think she's gonna be really excited to understand Planet Earth and be amazed by everything she sees. She might jump into situations without thinking a lot like Sonic, but more so out of curiosity.
Also, on the Rouge part of things, I can definetly see them doing some sort of backstory for her. Maybe she had to fought for her life everyday so she became a treasure hunter. She knows how much the Chaos and Master emeralds are worth so she knew she couldnt lose this chance, afterall "All jewels in the world are" hers "to keep!!".
I just think this movie will have an overall theme of loss, death, letting go and not be too worried about what's going to happen in the future, just live in the moment
As Sonic would say: "Don't turn back, always run forward, and never lose your step!!"
TBH, Rouge should have been introduced in the Knuckles Show.
I fully agree, like, there's only 4(or 7 if you count Manic, Sonia and Scourge)that's almost as bad and/or rare as Knuckles being the last Echidna, there's also other species in the franchise that we don't see enough of(Fox, Cat, Bird, etc)
@@YujiUedaFan I did too. But learning how Marvel adding characters, and then throw them in the movies to confuse people who only follow movies. It's better if Knuckles show was a movie with a big budget and stakes. It's a 3 hours miniseries that could've been cut down and tweaked. Come on.
@@sb14andmore50 We have 3 birds (excluding flickies) abd 2 cats (though one is from another dimension). Lately we also saw two more Foxes in Sonic Origins (also in Sonic Prime as a cameo).
@@YujiUedaFanThat's why I said rare, there's barely any other same species of characters in the franchise, we have Jet, Wave and Storm as the birds, we have Big and Blaze as the Cats, and those two foxes in Origins/Prime were nothing more but to show that, before Tails met Sonic, he was bullied because of his features(his two tails)
Amy is one of the most underestimated characters in the Sonic series. I love her.
I hope they don't Chris Thorndike it, and give a incredibly important role to some unimportant side character
I get bullied: *sleep*
Amy gets bullied: *REAL SHIT*
Sonic the hedgehog 3 is the PERFECT movie to add Amy and rouge idk what else to say ngl other than this would be the perfect movie to introduce them in considering they both had pretty big roles in sonic adventure 2 which the 3rd movie is going to be heavily based on
I honestly think Amy’s would be fun character to have she can be strong but let her have fun and be important,she’s also a a core member to team sonic!!!
I can think of many reasons why she should be in the movie.
1. Her appearance alone would complete the classic cast
2. We’re most likely saying goodbye to eggman because Jim Carrey is retiring after this movie. If We’re saying goodbye to our main villain, we need to have the whole main cast on screen.
3. Sega and Nintendo are competitors, and peach is in the Mario movie. If Saga wants to one up Mario, wouldn’t it make sense to have their pink character on screen?
3. Amy is sonic best female friend next to tail; even if she’s not seen as a love interest, they have always been good friends.
4. Amy is flexible enough that even if she’s just along for the ride, she can work with a small role, so she wouldn’t hog that much screen time from shadow, especially when she wasn’t given that much screen time in the game, but was still important.
5. Amy can easily be the selfless but vulnerable person to bridge the gap between sonic and shadow because she teaches and reminds them what love is.
Canon wise and lore wise, Amy was Sonic's first friend before Tails and was introduced before Knuckles. You can't make up a Sonic team or movie without her, same way you can't do it without tails and knuckles.
other exmaples; you cant make up avengers without blackwidow or hulk.
@@vvv8392 she's more of a Thor lol cuz the hammer
@@knucklestheechidna9826 trruuee her hammer is also very hard to use, even knuckles can’t hold it right bc of how heavy it is so yeah great comparison
@@vvv8392 Yeah lol
…..do you what was the first line up of the avengers?
@@guywholikesanimations1018 idgaf lmao the OG avengers that everyone knows are Ironman Captain America hulk black widow ms marvel antman and wasp
SHE NEEDS TO BE IN THE MOVIE!!!!!
Me too
WE ALL DO!!!! 😰😰😰😰
This is why Amy Rose haters should never even existed in the first place.
#JusticeForAmyRose
yeah i too am tired of them trying to turn Amy into Sally instead of letting her be her own thing. Sega 100% owns Sally anyway so if we REALLY need a "girlboss," do we need to mangle an existing character into that mold?
The unfortunate thing is Sally's like garbage to Sega and they want her to be completely forgotten, so making Amy girlboss and leader of the resistance is normal because it's new to Sega of Japan.
But I kinda agree, aside from obsession with Sonic we need all the previous traits should stay with her like short temper.
I just hope Amy stays consistently well-written character and she wouldn't be treated just as gag like in 2000's games and Sonic X
@@ashesGeekSally has never been seen in the sonic games
@@frazier4781 she did appear in Sonic Spinball
Yeah but sonic spain ball isn’t canon to the main sonic games since sonic spain ball had all of the sonic satam characters so this game is none canon
Movie Amy needs to make an appearance!
If Amy Rose is not in the third movie, I'm not only going to be EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED, but I may also have to do everything in my power to make the name Amy Rose bigger than any other character in this franchise. Seriously, she BETTER be in this movie, and I don't mean to sound like an ignorant little kid when I say that, but nothing can piss me off more than Amy being REMOVED from anything Sonic. I'd rather see a poorly written Amy than not see her at all.
Amy Rose is my favorite Sonic character. The haters can kick rocks 🪨
So, here's how I'd do it:
- She comes to Earth guided by her cards. She’s a dreamer inn search of adventure
- Her power is to summon and empower her hammer
- She gets in trouble because she knows nothing about Earth, Sonic saves her and she falls in love. Sonic gets nervous and runs away, thought.
- Have your Sonic vs Shadow fight, Shadow mops the floor with Sonic, Tails and Knuckles.
- Amy eventually meets and befriends Shadow, while Sonic teams up with Robotnik.
- At the end of act 2, Robotnik betrays Sonic and used the combined quills of Sonic, Shadow and Knuckles to power Metal Sonic.
- Metal Sonic beats Sonic and Shadow because they can’t work together. When they manage to escape him, he kidnaps Amy
- 3rd act is to rescue Amy, while Robotnik is preparing something big for the world
- Final fight is a hedgehog fest: Sonic, Shadow and Amy vs Metal Sonic, while Knuckles and Tails try to stop Robotnik’s greater plan
- Amy makes Sonic and Shadow to work together. Robotnik is stopped but too late.
- Inspired by Amy, Shadow sacrifices himself to save the world.
- Post credits reveal Shadow survived.
At least those are my hopes.
You know what? THIS IS A PERFECT PLOT!
@@JayAndSonicYT Thank you! I'm eager for the movie!
True that would be amazing
Its glad to see someone with sense
Let Amy be herself and shine in the movies! I'll be rlly sad if she doesn't get her moment with Shadow in movie 3 if that plot is what they go for.
Me too if someone takes amys part it would not be cool, chris already did that in sonic x they better mot do it again
@@SonicTheHedgehogX15 For real!
I am watching this movie for shadow. And even I can’t imagine this movie without Amy
I do hope Amy and Rouge shows up in Sonic 3, but it feels unlikely. Especially learning that Jeff Fowler isn't a fan of Rouge and he wrote for the Sonic movies so it's concerning.
I love Amy. She's one of my favorites (honestly I didn't mind the change in Sonic X with Chris taken Amy's place, would be great if it was a combined effort with Chris & Amy, as another Human character is like Maria exists in present and destroyed the world would destroy another human like Maria and Amy stating the same words and pointed it towards Chris would've be a nice detail to that scene) and I hope she gets the respect she deserves.
I do dislike how they're handling Amy nowadays. I love how unapologetic Amy is with showing her love for Sonic, though at times SEGA went overboard with how she acted, which is where the fans pointing it out and they course corrected too hard. Amy is really an incredible character when you really take a moment to understand her character.
EDIT: I would love to see more Human OCs in Sonic stories. Heck, I WISHED there was a Human Avatar with no abilities for a fun change in Sonic Forces. But alas... no dice. I mean both Sonic animals and Humans co-exist in the same world after (which is confirmed in Tails Tube).
Have you read IDW? I feel like Amy in IDW is a pretty good mix between all her other characterizations.
@@insecure8926 I have the comics. Not all of them, but the early ones.
I love the one where Sonic is looking for Amy and she instantly shows up and Sonic comments "And like clockwork she appears. How does she do that?" which I find very funny.
I’d probably cry if amy doesn’t get in
SAME!!!! 😭😭😭😭
Yeah, it's disappointing
I’ll bring tissues because if the movie ends and I see no pink hedgehog IM LITERALLY YELLING IN THEATERS “WHERE TF IS AMY ROSE!!”
She’s a long shot for sure, but someday, I would love to see Cream the Rabbit make an appearance in a Sonic movie.
It’s also a great potential for the more “adult” Sonic characters-Vanilla and Vector in particular-to hang out with the human adults. Vector is a detective after all. Maybe he can help with Chris’s police work?
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
@@Sammy-34079 I’m confident that Amy and Rouge will be in. Cream and Blaze are a pipe dream though. Maybe by the 4th or 5th film.
@@Sammy-34079 I feel like you are a bot at this point, considering noone talks about Minnie and Lola, and this comment barely talked about Amy but rather Vanilla, Cream and Vector or a kid that likes to spam an opinion into unrelated things...
i like the idea of amy disliking humanity.
like you said, one possibility is that amy’s been on earth since she was a kid just like sonic, but she didn’t have her own human friends. maybe she was outcasted or experimented on or something like that. she wouldn’t hate humans like shadow, but she would be far more weary of them.
over the course of the film she gradually gets closer to and begins to trust her human allies.
she uses this experience at the end of the film to reason with shadow. boom, tied it all together.
Amy is funny, she's mad, she's hilariously violent, she is cute, she is good hearted. In other words she is complicated and entertaining. A woman who can overpower or match any of the male characters, who is radically empathetic and yet full of flaws is far better than the marketable Mary Sues Hollywood has been giving us for years. I mistrust people who hate Amy because sooner or later they out themselves as misogynists. Let her be annoying and paranoid - that's her thing! She is also the one who saved the world by reminding Shadow of Maria, and her SA1 story arc is perhaps the best written in the game. Justice for Amy!
Amy needs to appear in the film, in fact, I think she would have more importance throughout the franchise than Rouge. Hoping to see the pink hedgehog! 💙
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
@@Sammy-34079bro stop spamming the same comment, that's their opinion, no need to say that to everyone
I miss How females were Written 20 years ago were falling in love was not considered a weakness While yes, following love, should not be the only goal for a woman or anyone for that matter it should not be looked down on. And Princess peach in the Mario brothers movie is one of A few examples of a healthy girl boss. With justification of being Better than the male lead at something
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
@@Sammy-34079 you must be fun at parties lol
If shes not in it, I will be rather heartbroken.
Me too. 😭 I’m actually pretty nervous that we’re so close to the movie’s release and we haven’t heard anything about Amy. I really hope they’ll surprise us with her inclusion in the upcoming trailer.
@@EvieDrawsStuffiGuess As am I; if shes not in it, I really don't have the heart to see it as I don't care about Shadow.
@@shivasthong4924 I completely get that.
Also I think people are severely underestimating how important Amy and Rouge were to Shadow's story. How can they do a proper Shadow story without them?
She will be in it. It just doesn’t make sense for her not to be in it since Sonic showing friendship to Shadow won’t work, on how he did it with knuckles in sonic movie 2. It also wouldn’t make any sense replacing her with another character to consult him. She is the heart of the team after all and she can be represented. On what people have never seen in her a good way of what people never expected of her. This movie can also express and show something new on Sonic and Amy relationship and the movie and her relationship with others as well.
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
You're so right about the comparison to other HUGE animated properties. No matter what people say, things like the Mario Movie or certain Disney/Pixar/Dreamworks films are MASSIVELY successful. Anyone who says having more animated characters would harm the movie has no idea what they're talking about, or simply can't envision how to make it work properly. That doesn't mean that the filmmakers and writers can't do it or shouldn't try.
That being said, here is a list of characters that should appear in Sonic 3:
Froggy
Scratch and Grounder
Rob O' Hedge
Tails Doll
Marine the Raccoon
Fish (from Sonic Adventure)
I mean, there are also animated movies that are far less successful than their live action counterpart. So that's not really the deciding factor in terms of success.
Scratcher and Grounder is replaced by Agent Stone for this interpterion of Eggman.
Realistically for the list of characters to appear would be Amy Rose and Rouge. Big and Froggy as a cameo like SA2 did.
Hey Garrulous!
I hope Amy will be in the Third Movie, But if She’s not, the 3rd film will still probably be good.
And I do say that some of the people that are saying we don’t need Amy are the people that ship Sonadow (which I don’t really have an opinion about.) A lot of those fans don’t like Amy.
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@Sammy-34079 😑💢👊👊👊💥💥💥
I definitely agree that
A. Amy would be great for more female representation to reach the younger demographic, but Amy's character is more than just being a gaga fan girl. Her "all loving spirit" shows her as the literal heart of the franchise. Amy's character helps give Sonic compassion. Each of the characters bring out something like that; Tails: Responsibility
Knuckles: Strength
Shadow: Maturity. Amy shows to Sonic that to truly help people, it's just to slow down and be emotional support. Especially since movie Sonic is more emotive than game Sonic, because there are little writing restrictions.
@@Artist_Unbound 😑💢👊💥 She been had these terms. Idiot!
Amy and Rouge both need to be in that film - I find it horrifying how female characters are being mistreated due to stereotypical gender beliefs and they both play core roles in SA2B for heck’s name. Amy has developed not only as a character but a female role model throughout her time being in the sonic brand and while rouge debuted in SA2B, that does not make either of them any less valuable.
I think it would be criminal if the producers left either one of them out. Personally, I adore BOTH female characters and when I watched the sonic films, it was for sonic, tails, knuckles, Eggman and not for the other human characters. I am sure that there are many other people with similar tastes on who they want to watch but it would be wrong for Amy’s and Rouges roles to not be added.
Anyone claiming the Sonic cast are too "alienating" for audiences are clueless or insane. Cute, superpowered animal friends is the most textbook definition of 'crowd pleaser' imaginable. Becase Disney, Dreamworks, Illumination, Pixar...charming animation is literally their business model, why are we pretending this is different JUST for Paramount?
It really seems like these people are desperate to find any reason to deflect criticism of the sonic movies despite the obvious flaws they have, the knuckles series is a great example of this.
These characters were literally made to be marketable in multimedia and it's insane how even Sonic fans act like out-of-touch movie execs.
Who is claiming this, and is there actually enough of a presence from them to care?
I swear this just the classic shadow cannon nonsense all over again.
@@ChannelPupOne Question Is Your Yt Intro An Remake Of Jp Sonic 1 Clay Ad With Flashy Lights And Sonic Dancing on An Car
@@TheSultan1470 Literally every all-animated movie powerhouse would disagree with you.
I'm pretty confident we'll get at least one animal girl introduced in Sonic movie 3.
If they really wanted to surprise us, it might be Cream. But I doubt that since she's paired with Blaze.
I believe it'll be Amy and/or Rouge.
Seeing a Chao or two would be cool too.
Shadow's arc is dependent on Amy helping him through it.
I agree with you give the girl her time to shine
Something I would love to see in the Sonic Movie 3 is Amy being a badass with Sonic being the one crushing on her, obviusly Sonic would still be the main character obviusly, Sonic and Amy would be awsome working togheter...
My boo deserves her spot
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Probably in the post credits scene of 3.
"My boo" 💀
Amy deserves to be in the movie
I've not agreed with the "Amy would make it too crowded" argument but still took it for granted to some extent, and figured it would still be beneficial to just focus on Shadow, but the point about screentime you made actually kind of crushes that perspective. Shadow does not need to be a protagonist whose perspective we follow to leave a huge impression, and whenever he's not on screen there's surely going to be plenty of time to fill.
Amy is one of my favorite Sonic characters at the moment and I hope she's done justice! It really makes less sense to ignore her than it does to find any reason to make her a part of this world already.
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
@@Sammy-34079ur literally everywhere and what dose this has to do with Mickey Mouse they are nothing a like
@@frazier4781 I think they’re a bot because their channel has nothing on it.
@@Sammy-34079 🙄👊👊👊💥💥💥
@@frazier4781 I feel same thing.
Amy is embodiment of positivity
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
@@Sammy-34079 bot lol
@@Sammy-34079 you clown lol
She’s the embodiment of love and kindness that doesn’t get hardened by battle. Even after the dreaded metal virus, she is still the positive and uplifting one, but not in a way that’s unrealistic. She still holds out hope that things will turn out.
Yeah, yeah.
The haters don’t want the pink hedgehog that’s ULTRA iconic in sonic because they want to see the sexy bat in the big screen. That’s just bad.
#AmyInSonicMovie3
JUSTICE FOR AMY!
For Amy!😁💕
I never understood the Amy hate. Especially outside the Sonic Fandom. With the resurgence of Amy in the cast in Frontiers and Superstars, I wouldn't be surprised if Sega would do something with her. I wish we were given some more details about Sonic 3 though.
I hated Amy as a kid when i played the wii Sonic and the secret ring game she was always cheating
People only hate Amy because of how she was in Sonic Heroes until Generations. Sonic Boom was the first time Amy became the group mum/bossy girl (though Sonic Boom Amy took it further than main series Amy).
It’s cause of sega of Jp flandiraztion of Amy during the 2000s which sadly sonic fans take super seriously lol
@@naitsabes6222
Amy in the mid 2000s: SONIC I WANT YOUR BABIES!
Amy in the last 10 years: **Literally the group mum**
Sonic fans now: Amy sucks! She's such a stalker!
I wish more details for Sonic 3 too. Even if they're making such surprises, it's really not when you grab Amy or/and Rouge in it.
Amy Rose is a hero and a vital character. Genuinely an adorable and heart warming character.
I like amy more than rouge, i bet 50% of people who like rouge like her for the wrong reasons… ngl
Personally I like rouge more because she is the exact counter to knuckles. She’s everything he isn’t and I like that dynamic.
@@UnderYourBedbear true.. they better have that dynamic more often(unlike sonic prime)
I like Amy more than Rouge because she teases Knuckles AND NO ONE TEASES THE GOAT.
@@UnderYourBedbearwade is already here
I find it hilarious how you call it the Sonic mythology lol.
I actually love Amy tbh, in fact she’s one of my top 5 favorite Sonic characters
I AM SO GLAD I CLICKED ON THIS VID! there are so many people who completely misunderstand Amy’s character! AND IT DRIVES ME UP THE WALL! I’ve always looked up to her, she’s definitely the type of character that young girls and boys would be happy to see on screen! She’s just such an important part of the main four and if she were in the third instalment, having her play such an important role like turning shadow?! It would be crazy not to have her in the story! Of course if she wasn’t, I’d still be happy with just shadow, sonic and the rest but from my point of view, I personally feel it would be too similar to the second movie but aside from that, I’m so glad that this amazing, kind and strong Character is getting the recognition she most absolutely deserves! #JUSTICEFORAMYROSE!! ❤
Amy Rose will been in Sonic Movie 3 or 4?! They really seen her in Sonic Movie 3 or 4.
Sonic Movie 3
6:44 the pure emotion in that sentence is perfect
I've always liked Amy as a character. And I would like her in a Sonic Movie.
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
Show her a little respect.
@@Sammy-34079no, Minnie is trash and Amy is the goat 🔥
Amy is one of my favorite characters so i really hope she's in it. Also I think the way amys personality is portrayed in sonic adventure 1&2 was peak Amy sonic heros went a little wild with her
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
@@Sammy-34079 who on earth is Lola bunny? And also Amy's personality at least in sonic adventure 1&2 and heros, amy is very memorable. Amy is a rather interesting twist on the often damsel in distress she does get help from sonic, but is often capable herself unlike peach from super mario. (I have no problem with peach I'm just using her as an example)
While Amy has already justfied her role in Sonic 3, I would munch prefer her in her own flick where she can be the real star and not be over shadowed by Shadow
Thats true… which is why i think sa1 movie woulve been better before sa2 movie, that way we can introduce others like amy and such in a way that it connects more to the sa2 movie
If she did get her own spin off film it would probably be about her going on a road trip with wade's annoying fbi sister who would be the actual main focus on the film
Yeah, I don't want Amy happens the same as Tails in Sonic 2
amy is probably one of the reasons there are female sonic fans not having her in the next sonic movie would be such a mishap!
22:28: I mean, I think there's already been, EXTREMELY SUBTLE, set-up done:
Amy Rose, in these movies, came to Earth, became a pre-teen shadow real estate maven, giving her name to a human as cover for...30%, and Maddie stayed at one of her Zillow properties. Sonic 3 is set...4-5 years after her arrival. Sonic speeds past that property early in Sonic 3, seeing a pink hedgehog in a window for a second, and then...the GUN truck happens, for Action Scene #1. After the action scene, Sonic gets his "one phone call", to Tails, telling him about Amy. Tails has made a big techno hammer, which he puts in the plane he's made. Picks up Amy, flies to Prison Island, Amy sees the hammer and grabs it before leaping out of the plane and then: Action Scene #2: Amy smashing down walls and robots to save a hero. Amy can even laugh at Tails, "You think I don't know my way around a hammer!? I. WORK. IN. REAL. ESTATE! Now, let's get to the reno!"
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.!!!!
I´m a boy and I want to see Amy!!! she´s my favorite character!! :,)
I personally the idea that Sonic could have met Amy when they were kids, like when he went to get the flower for Longclaw. How she gets to Earth while keeping true to the games? Not sure, but I trust them to come up with something. People are so hyped for Shadow, they forget this is a SONIC movie. With how much focus Knuckles got, the second movie still followed Sonic, and also Robotnik. And like you said, there’s not a lot of female representation in these movies. That’s something that definitely needs to be expanded on.
I hope Amy is in Sonic 3. I mean, they introduced Tails at the end of the first movie, and then the second movie not only had him, but also Knuckles. If Sonic 2 teased Shadow, then he comes back for the third movie, doesn’t that also mean they could bring Amy in as well?
They need to include Amy in Sonic 3 movie as part of the main cast with an important and relevant role, not being shown in a post credits scene.
@@DragonNinja20 That's what I meant.
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
I am not gonna lie, I will be depressed if Amy is not in this movie.
Amy needs to be in the third Sonic Film. It's the perfect opportunity to introduce the characters.
Amy is one of my favorite characters and it’ll be cool if she was in Sonic Movie 3
Amy would make sense in this movie, we've had Tails as the good guy character with knuckles as the bad guy character. Make Amy the good intro. While we're at it, introduce Rouge as a neutral character initially appearing to be siding with Robotnik and Shadow. But then being a hired gun for G.U.N. Maybe have Amy looking for Tails and knows him, but stumbles on the case and develops a crush on Sonic.
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
@@Sammy-34079bot
Amy gets too much hate.
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Not as much as before, but I still think people overdo it. I hated her too when I was much younger, but now I realize that Amy really was a great character, as well as funny, I never really took her "bad moments" that seriously.
She doesn't deserve any hate.
Most people said that Amy Rose looks like the human version of Sakura from Naruto?
if we got them to change the cgi model for sonic, we could get Amy back in the franchise
The movie wasn't changed at all. They only changed the model of sonic, it wasn't THAT insane! They would have to redo almost everything to include her, don't you think that's ridiculous?
@@yucelonmaz2 I know I just meant in the next movie (if they make a fourth one). I've already thought about it and yea it's not possible for them to change it after it's already been made.
I said "they should put her in the franchise" not "they should scrap the whole movie". I'm actually really excited to watch sonic 3 cause I'm a big shadow fan. it's just silly to me that they haven't introduced Amy yet considering she is one of the OGs :/
PREACH! People treat old Amy like she was a kanker sister or something and it made me really sad. She has a big heart with a lot of room for everybody in it
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.!!!!!!
@Johnny-34079 I don't feel the same but respect that you have characters that you enjoy as much as I do Amy
@@nellewoodruff6337 Minnie Mouse is superior to that dumpster fire Amy Rose. Sega's attempts are just plain mediocre. Disney's iconic mouse has charm, wit, and character that Sonic's sad attempts could only dream of. So, sorry if it hurts, but Minnie Mouse reigns supreme. Amy Rose? Just a mere wannabe.
@Johnny-34079 It's fine, I like her anyway. Sorry this vid couldn't convince you
If Paramount acttually listens to this and takes notes and actually dose this that would be amazing
Let me be brutally honest with you, my friend - Amy Rose is nothing compared to Minnie Mouse or Lola Bunny. Minnie and Lola have character, sass, and undeniable charm. Amy Rose? A wannabe caricature. Disney and Looney Tunes have created icons that endure the test of time, while Sonic's attempts at creating memorable characters fall flat. So, it's time to face reality. Amy Rose? Garbage. Minnie and Lola? Legends.
Amy is one of the most important characters in the Sonic franchise.
Not having her would be like the Mario movies not having Yoshi, but let's instead stuff it with average New Yorkers who stumble across the pipe and go on adventures with the Mario Bros.
Yoshi will be in the second movie, so no, this isn't a bad example.
Hell even the live action Mario movie included Yoshi and everybody agrees he's pretty much the best part of it.
I see your points and agree that Amy plays an important role in Shadow's story but I would also argue that Sonic Adventure 2 had the luxury of being 9 hours long in comparison to the movie likely being 2 hours at most and we also have to consider potential stories that would be emphasized outside of Shadow like developing Sonic's heroism and empathy, Tails developing his independence, Robotnik learning about his Grandfather, the organization that controlled Project Shadow, and possible flashbacks to Maria and Shadow being on the arc; I would love to see Amy and Rouge in the movie but I feel like the movie already has a lot of arcs to juggle already and adding in Amy can result in a more muddled story that falls short of expectations.
I would disagree that Amy's direction is extreme in the new games because in Frontiers Amy is vulnerable, caring while also willing to stand up for what she believes in and loving Sonic but the difference between her character now and her depictions from Heroes to Generations is that modern Amy is allowed to have interests outside of Sonic, able to hold fun conversation with him that showcases a meaningful dynamic, and emphasizing her own values in comparison to her having a rather one dimensional dynamic that didn't progress the story or the characters while leaving her more empathetic qualities behind in SA 1 and SA 2; the IDW comics are also a good example of how here character has progressed in the Modern Era of Sonic.
I don’t know if this is an unpopular opinion, but Amy is my third favorite character in the entire franchise and I actually like her more than Sonic, Tails, & Knuckles.
I’ll admit there are a lot of games where she is poorly written (for me I think they lost side of her character between sonic heroes and sonic free riders) when she is well written, she is one of the most inspiring heroes in the series.
She longs for adventure and excitement, just like Sonic. But unlike her crush, Amy is not in a hurry to get from the place. She will actually slow down and take the time to help people individually solve their issues. Whether that’s helping a lost Sungazer, Reuniting a bird with its family, or helping a long departed spirit reunite with its one true love she puts the needs of others before herself, no matter how crucial or minor the issue is
I can't really give her rank, but she's my favorite Sonic female character with a ton of untapped potential.
Whether people like her or not, but she's the face of the franchise along with main 3 boys(screw Shadow hype).
I see Amy as a little twisted version of Sonic. They both see the good in people and like to have all the excitement from life, it's just Amy's likings is having comfortable house and lay back once in a while just enjoying ordinary routine.
I just hope we get Amy stories that aren't focused on Sonic and let us see her potential
She is my third favorite to in sonic, I don't like the new personality given to her nowadays. Besides people keep forgetting she Japanese character is not an American character. I get that sonic is popular in America that he doesn't make for America.
people are so busy talking about Amy and Rouge that they forget that there's a non-zero chance that black doom appears on the movie