Fat Joe Vs Irv Gotti: The Rise and Fall of a Brotherhood
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- This is a deep dive into the relationship of Fat Joe and Irv Gotti and the many possible things that divided their relationship over the years. This is the first thorough video you will find on TH-cam that analyzes the relationship from very early on until now. It starts at the Terror Squad days with Pun passing away and Joe's struggles after Pun's passing to Murder Inc ruling the airwaves and helping Fat Joe and then the complicated relationship Ashanti had with Fat Joe, Ja Rule, and Irv Gotti and how that affected Joe's relationship with Irv Gotti. Also, how 50 Cent played a role in the division of this brotherhood as well.
/ @pandachopchronicles
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#FatJoe #IrvGotti #MurderInc #Ashanti #DrinkChamps #NORE #JaRule #Verzuz #VerzuzBattle #VerzuzTV #50Cent #GUnit #GunitRecords #TerrorSquad #CubanLink
The older you get the more you realise almost everyone in the industry is an absolute chatty patty with a fragile ego
It’s an interesting industry for sure
In life period. Dudes gossip more than woman.
@@Goblinghoulz 😂😂😂
Rip Chris lighty and pun
@@ryandag8403 RIP 🙏
What i love the most about this video is how you pulling out receipts as proof regarding what the whole video is about, no click bait type nonsense, SOLID work G!!!
Thanks bro. All I care about is the truth. I’m not trying to side with anyone when I make these pieces. I just want to be as objective as possible and let the audience say how they feel in the comments. So what you think about the situation?
Irv is one of the most corniest dudes ever he wants to be gangster so bad
You don’t think Irv is really about that life?!
Nope! He does hang around people who do though.
@@Nabs1980 sometimes people lose themselves by thinking they really are who they associate with
Watch the damn video! Irv helped Ashanti’s career, way more than the vice versa. Then Fat Joe comments about Irv & Ashanti; yet Nelly don’t even care! I can’t stand these hating ass dick eaters, CLEARLY Fat Joe is wrong 🤦🏽♂️.
Most half breeds are... alot of ppl don't know Irv is half white
Irv goofy the clown
Why?
Irv is the biggest cornball on planet earth
Why? You don’t think he had a right to be mad at Joe?
@@PANDACHOPChronicles Nope because that’s what he is, a sucka.
R I.P Big Pun
🙏🙏🙏
He pistol whipped his wife in the face, it’s on video. He was a garbage human who abused his wife & kids. Google it.
And my grandmother, come on Panda, give my grandmother the 🙏
Man F that woman beater smh he was a dog ass human being
@@user-wb7nv9ht1gf yo gma
THIS PANDA GUY SERIOUSLY NEVER DISAPPOINTS!!..hes like the hidden gem of TH-cam
Thanks bro 🙏🙏🙏 what do you think about the Irv and Joe situation?
@@PANDACHOPChronicles it's crazy man..I remeber those guys were super duper close..you think it has the chance to get violent??
@@ab-gy3ylnah they are at an age where they'd just keep their distance from each or have a sit down if both parties are willing to do so but I don't think Irv would want that unless Fat Joe apologizes to him publicly since the offense was public.
Irv is a clown. We all know this
Do you think Joe took Irv’s comments about the Verzuz personal?
Joe def a 🤡🤡🤡
@@albertdaley9093 why do you think he’s a clown?
So you like to watch clowns?
They’re both clowns
"rule was ready to go there" is the least intimidating thing I've ever heard
why? You don’t take ja rule serious?
@@PANDACHOPChronicles he just comes across as a goofy trying to be super hard, acting like a combo of DMX and 2pac but irl he probably acts like plies, using his indoor white guy voice
@@PANDACHOPChronicles idk if you've done a video on plies fakery but that would be a good one lmao the rap games number one goon is a rich kid who sounds like a substitute teacher when he's not on camera
Damn I never knew that about Plies. Mr “I just gave her a nickname it’s wet wet” 😂😂😂
@@PANDACHOPChronicles lmao TH-cam Jamie Foxx story about Plies
Fat Joe was mad as hell on the versus lol 😂
😂😂😂 yeah he loss his cool and that’s why he said that stuff.
Imagine if ja rule brought out cuban link and joe brought out 50 lol
@@JoeyZeigler-ep2um people ain’t leaving without getting hurt 😂😂😂
@@PANDACHOPChronicles 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Love em or hate em Rule has monster hits for days over Joe
So let’s get this straight. Irv and murda inc was on top of the world in the early 2000s having beef with 50 cents. Somehow 50 is shot 9 times but doesn’t die. Where rumors irv sending messages about the shooting after it happens since he knew it was happening. Jam master Jay is ran up on in the studio and killed with links tied to helping 50 cent when everyone else was told not to do so. Murda inc trying to black ball anything 50 cent did trying to make it in the game. Finally aftermath signs 50 and ja rule now is upset with Dr Dre and Eminem for helping 50 get in the game and the beef starts up again. After all that 50 becomes the biggest thing in hip hop while murda inc is falling fast with lawsuits indictments and arrests. Finally when 50 and Joe decide to squash their beef irv now is upset? Everything they been through irv is the one that’s upset is crazy. It was all good when murda inc was on top of the world doing everything to make sure 50 wouldn’t eat but as soon as it backfires now irv acts as what 50 cent did is worst than anything murda inc done to him. I never liked murda inc but I respected irv for having been part of a lot of great things in hip hop like Dmx jay z but honestly irv is a sucker
Umm I think having your brother squash beef with your mortal enemy is more upsetting than you’re letting on 😂
@@PANDACHOPChroniclesThey did it for Chris Lighty
@@mackvelly8899 yeah they did but at the same time Irv not thinking about it like that
@@PANDACHOPChronicles He should but he’s too stubborn.
@@PANDACHOPChronicles When’s the next video?
Could u interview Havoc?
Could u interview Sid Roams??
Are we gonna get some album reviews from you??
Joe a hypocrite he called vita and moe dusty 304's but get mad at irv for disrespecting ashanti yea it makes no sense the rap game funny industry games dudes be playing
That’s a fact. Lil mo was still mad after he apologized
FACTS=Difference is-he good friends with Ashanti. He don't kno those other 2 girls, pretty much no1 knows them anyway
@@GeniusEmpath that don't give him the right to disrespect them. At the end of the day they are still human beings so just because they are lesser known on a public scale then it justifies his actions of being able to disrespect them and call them dusty btches? They were still associates of Murder Inc and I'm sure Joe has been around them a few occassions. of course the outrage would have been even greater if Joe did that to Ashanti.
@@PANDACHOPChroniclesAnything to trash Joe bekuz you have relationship with that disgruntled dust head Cuban Stink
every time i hear the name Big Pun, i think of Donnell Rawling on Breakfast Club roasting Envy 😂😩🤣🤣🤣
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Irv be talking out the side of his neck. Man listen I believe Joe still have the ability to make it nervous around certain places for rule an irv
Make it nervous? Everybody got money in that situation and know street dudes and can make others feel uncomfortable. Irv got more money than Joe. It’s not even about all that. Why do you feel he talking outside of his neck?
Facts.
Have em feeling like the Puerto Rican Day parade started early this year.
@@PANDACHOPChronicles there street ppl got booked dealing with 50 I personally know Joe still has goons and when u talking bout a chick you hit 20 years ago because she boo’ed up is sucker shit an talking out the side of ya neck Joe be wrong a lot but not this time. Ja didn’t agree with that but not going against irv
Irv Lorenzo are DJ irv CB4
Yo this was done beautifully really love this new content
Thank you my bro 🙏
Great work Panda, like this concept style.
Thank you 🙏 make sure you check out the other ones I’ve done if you haven’t already
There’s a lotta content creators breaking down beefs. This is the second video I’ve stumbled across and I’m a fan. You let the content speak for itself and your timeline concept is super effective. Subscribed!
Thank you. 🙏 I try my best to be as neutral as possible when presenting what happened. I know some others take a stance from the beginning and that’s cool too. I prefer to let the audience speak in the comments and it’s always interesting to see what the people think
When somebody says no disrespect = you about to be disrespected.
💯💯💯 lol that’s a fact
Irv was talking crazy about DMX too
What he say about DMX?!
Yeah and so what?! X was hating on murder inc tryna take money out they pockets and Irv and Ja Rule stood their ground. Irv the main reason DMX blew up. Look up the history and get your facts straight.
@@PANDACHOPChroniclescalled him crack man X lol.
@BL77357 man shut the fuck up. You MF always twisting shit to the way you want it. Ja copied X negro. X was gonna blow no matter what. So you get your facts straight
I thought that was Ja that called him that on the radio station where he started saying ya wanna see pac come back?! It’s here and I’m taking to the streets to the booth wherever you want! Holla back!
Irv mad at Joe for being cool with 50.
I definitely think that is a large part of it
TH-cam brought me here ..Great content my dude. I always wanted to be in the industry. But now I'm okay being underneath a rock minding my own business. Shout out to We are Flatbush. And I just subscribed to your channel.💪🏽
I appreciate the support 🙏🫡 it’s definitely a tough industry. I grew up wanting to be apart of it too but it’s a lot of crazy stuff. What do you think about the Joe and Irv situation?
Great breakdown brother 🫡🫡🐼🐼🐼🐼
Thanks bro! What do you think about this situation with Irv and Joe?
Ur killin it with these videos brother ‼️ salute from ur Detroit fam
Appreciate you bro!
Dope. And the timeline stuff is very good. Make it easier to follow and understand the whole story
Good concept !
Thank you 🙏 what do you think about this situation?
Fat Joe has definitely looked at Ashanti & J. Lo's ass before. Fat Joe tried to have a Jadakiss type moment in his Verzuz battle with Ja Rule and it backfired. This is very well done by the GREAT Panda Chop!
😂😂😂 great 👍 idk how he ain’t look at their ass. I couldn’t take my eyes off Ashanti and Jlo 😂😂😂
who hasnt looked at ashanti and jlo ass in the words of the late charlie rock ld lil joeyyyyy i know u🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@JoeyZeigler-ep2um 😂😂😂
@@PANDACHOPChronicles i miss charlie man he was mad funny😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@JoeyZeigler-ep2um I know RIP to my bro 🙏
Great channel,, gonna blow up soon. Great niche
Thank you 🙏 🫡 what do you think of the Fat Joe and Irv situation?
Keep this up bro channel going up
Thank you. What you think about this situation with Joe and Irv?
Irv has been cosplaying a tough guy for over 2 decades
Lots of people in the industry do. Either way I’m sure he’s good now with his 300 mill deal.
I like these beef docs, I hope you keep making these types of videos
Thank you. Definitely is the plan to do at least 2 a month. What do you think of the situation with Joe and Irv?
@@PANDACHOPChronicles definitely unfortunate. Fat Joe and Irv were beefing with 50 at the same time. Irv caused it to happen. Irv really haven’t been cool with Joe since he squashed his beef with 50 imo
Yeah I think he felt some type of way since then
Panda keep making these
I plan to! Already working on the next one 🙏
Ivy Gutti need to chill in my opinion, he sold his catalog for $300,000,000…he’s good. I don’t see why he should be beefing at this stage of his life.
Since Ashanti and Nelly got back together he hasn’t spoken about her especially now she married and pregnant. I’m sure that 300 mill keeping him comfy even if his heart is broken
Irv always been corny!!
You don’t think he talented though?
I agree fake tough guy made good records just a bozo
@@TRUENLIVING7 I feel you. What do you think about this situation with Irv and Joe?
I fucks with joe irv was wrong with the Ashanti situation but that's the BOZO shit I'm talking about
@@TRUENLIVING7 At least you're aware of it 👍
Yo great video, very well put together homie
Appreciate that! What do you think about this Irv and Joe situation?
@@PANDACHOPChronicles sucka shit from both parties involved
@@luckylefty914 I agree that both could have made better choices. Thanks for watching 👍💪🙏🫡
I can see why Irv is upset with Joe. The two most sensitive issues (50 cent and Ashanti), Joe displayed elements of disloyalty. If you take the Ashanti situation in a vacuum, I think they could overcome that but the 50 cent situation is the root of the problem
It’s not even just Ashanti though but just imagine waking up and seeing your “brother” criticizing you on social media instead of calling you. I think things that are done in public are always worse
But that's not fair. He could be so disrespectful out loud but didn't want to be addressed privately @@PANDACHOPChronicles
People talking crazy about Irv but he has majorly contributed to Hip Hop. He has classic albums under his name. He's majorly contributed to Jay Z, Ja Rule, DMX, Ashanti etc.
That’s what I’m saying. Say what you want about him in regards to the Ashanti thing but you can’t take away what he’s contributed to hip hop. I don’t think DMX, Ja, or Jay would have made it as soon as they did without him.
@PANDACHOPChronicles for real, the guy is a legend. I understand his hatred Ashanti towards because he literally made her but the way he words stuff comes across bad. BTW bro, I love your channel, keep it u0 ♥️
Irv Gotti didn't nothing to fat joe and fat joe come for no reason putting Gotti on blast...
Exactly its because joe always wanted Ashanti everyone in the circle knew that
I think he was a little embarrassed by the Verzuz so when he saw Irv said what he did on Drink Champs it was like rubbing salt into the wound and he took it personal. That’s why Joe said what he did before addressing the Ashanti thing
Hush, Irv.
That’s what you took from that? This dude is hurt because Ashanti doesn’t want him and he’s calling her out her name and shit and Joe shouldn’t have said anything? Really?
Oh please, the dude is a hater and is obsessed with someone he dated 20+ years ago. Joe expressing his opinion about that is not a bad thing, he probably shouldn’t have done it on Instagram but that’s probably the only mistake he made. And not even, because Irv disrespects everyone on public platforms. He’s an emotional and sensitive man.
Really good stuff bro!
Thanks bro! What you think about the Joe and Irv situation?
@@PANDACHOPChronicles Yoh Irv is trippin.
This is all he got now.
That’s facts.
Nigga is hurt.
Irv and Jah are the 2 least intimidating dudes in rap
Even more than Lil Nas X?
Lol he don't count to me as a rapper... But if the old school tough guys nobody in this world can convince me he is scary. Even his tough faces look goofy
@@legacythekidd so what do you think about this situation with Irv and Joe?
@@PANDACHOPChronicles I think joe old and he really was out there so he ain't trippin. If you really been out there and really did that then you not getting up for no lil back and forth. You either take it there or you just kinda brush it off ... Irv know that Joe ain't sweating it that's why he mouthin off .. his tough faces are hilarious 😂😂
@@legacythekidd 😂😂😂 thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts
Nice video growing up in the 00s i find this sruff intresting to watch thanks for the video
Appreciate you! 🫡 yeah some of my favorite times
This is Dope, very well produced ✅
Thank you! What you think of the situation between Irv and Joe?
This was good bro!
Thank you! 🙏 what do you think about the Joe and Irv situation?
@@PANDACHOPChronicles I think both sides believe they are right in the situation so it becomes an Alpha male type scenario. Who can piss the furthest. When friendships are real they will overcome whatever the situation.
Fat Joe's skinny and erv gotti is a Diddler. WTF happened too hip hop.
@@tjuk8050 allegedly 😂
@@PANDACHOPChroniclesThese documentary style vids are fkg dope man. Who would've thought that slim shady was the only one in the industry that didn't become a Diddler lol
😂😂😂 thank you for your kind words. In regards to Em, that man stays super isolated and protected. Hard to get into trouble. Smart move
Joe could have died like Pun did. I’m glad he’s skinny not obese
@@mackvelly8899 I don’t think he was ever to that level of Pun but yes he has definitely taken steps to improve his health cuz he’s pre-diabetic too
RIP Big Pun. I cringed when he came out shirtless but, Looking back that was a Gangsta AF!
😂😂😂 you didn’t like when a “fat boy went topless”
❤❤❤ good content..❤
Thank you 🙏 what do you think about this situation with Joe and Irv?
Fat Joes got that raw jealousy in him for Ja Rule
You think he don’t got love for Ja like that?
The great Panda Chop 😂
😂😂😂 gotta lighten the mood
@@PANDACHOPChronicles u aint lying u great🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@JoeyZeigler-ep2um 🙏🙏🙏 humbled
I thought I was the only one that caught that😂😂😂...hey eff it sometimes we gotta big ourselves up😂🙌🏼
@@BORIPURO203 HAHA salute appreciate you
"Does an interview with the great Panda Chop"...Lol - like it.
😂😂😂🫡🫡🫡 had to lighten the mood
So is this the hate Fat Joe channel?
How was this hating on Joe at all? I covered both sides
@@PANDACHOPChroniclesI think he is saying that because you interviewed people who dislike Fat Joe
Yeah but I also interviewed people that had great things to say about Joe like Kid Capri, Psycho Les, Royal Flush, King Flo, and more.
@@PANDACHOPChronicles true. I used to think the same thing until I watched those interviews
💯💯💯
50 wild for doin the diss wit Joe on stage!
😂😂😂 right he think he slick
Nelly gotta be careful with Joe for real
Why?
Nelly is a real gangster frfr
@@zabiricon7478 they act like Nelly ain’t tough cuz his style of hip hop has more of the pop element but Nelly was putting work in the streets back in the day
@PANDACHOPChronicles nelly was just a mainstream artist who was very marketable so I couldn't glorify that lifestyle but he was a real stepper from the lou
Good work
Thank you 🙏 what do you think about the Joe and irv situation?
Joe was wrong for speaking publicly instead of making a call. That doesn't mean Irv wasn't corny as hell. Irv also mad at Joe for squashing it with 50 and trying to link them up after working with Nas while being cool with Jay. Contradiction? Joe has said PLENTY of times that Irv saved his career and gave him his biggest hit. Y'all REALLY gotta hate Joe to cape for Irv corny actions.
I don’t think anyone caping for Irv. Irv was wrong for how he spoke about the Ashanti situation. There was definitely a better way to have addressed that situation but Joe should have called Irv but he was mad cuz of Irvs comments about Verzuz. You’re also right about the Nas and Jay Z situation. That is one of Irv’s biggest regrets
@@PANDACHOPChronicles Great video tho
but irv went on drink champs saying na was ready for ever thank god Joe ain't take it there he was on drink champs talking tuff and the whole Joe should of called irv about the comments irv should of stayed neutral and not say anything period he should of said they both my brothers it was a great battle and leave it at that irv was being corny
My Guy R.i.p Big Pun
RIP 🙏
I love Ashanti 🤣🤣🤣🔥🔥🔥
😂😂😂 do you think her and Irv were in love?
Another dope doc pana 🔥
Appreciate you my guy 🙏 what do you think about the Joe and Irv situation?
@@PANDACHOPChronicles Joe's a sucka man. He's a sucka lol
🤔 I’m not sure who this Panda interviewer is that’s so GREAT… and I’m guessing that’s who you stole or got your name from… but if he’s so great, then why didn’t you steal his style too…🤔😉🤣
Either way, you still did a Good job tho💯😉🤣🎉
😂😂😂 idk that Panda guy is hard to replicate man. Sheeshhh thank you 🙏 what do you think about this Fat Joe and Irv Gotti situation?
@@PANDACHOPChronicles I think they are two of the fake in hip hop… this is to all be expected💯🤣
But it was hard to give them my attention for that 👆 reason… but mainly because of how great the commentary was from the other great Panda💯😉💪
😂😂😂 thank you 🙏
Very very good and well put documentary.
Thank you! What do you think about this situation?
Can u do one on the rize and fall of juekz santana ?
Good breakdown. I never knew there was turmoil between the two.
Thank you for watching and commenting 🙏 what are your thoughts about the situation?
@@PANDACHOPChroniclesI feel that Joe owned up for his mistake posting on IG about Irv, as well as the sucka comment.
Unfortunately, Irv is an ultimest and one sign of disloyalty can end a relationship on the spot - but I think the love they share is still there, especially through thier music history.
In the end of this, Irv is a boss and probably felt he deserved more respect since he helped Joe come up - but Joe also acknowledged this and would always love Irv for that. I feel also that people from both circles should stay out of both thier ears & let them heal.
Yeah I feel you. I think they will ultimately work things out. Both could have handled things within the situation differently
Why did Fat Joe do Big Puns family like that
Unfortunate situation. Idk I guess only Joe could answer that. I analyzed the court documents though smh
Big Puns family are entitled. Joe took care of his family after Pun died & have his wife a bunch of money & she took all the money for herself & spent it all & then started feeling entitled & then she started biting the hand that fed her & the family
Great channel bro, we need more outlets that talk about real hip hop.
Thank you bro. I appreciate your kind words. What do you think about this situation with Joe and Irv?
@@PANDACHOPChronicles it’s crazy to me on paper Fat Joe is a legend but when you listen to him talk it’s like you lose respect. I think he did irv dirty. You should do one on fat Joe and big puns son. I think that’s the one that changes everyone perspective on fat Joe. Keep up the videos man 🔥
@@abebetrappinquicktalk I appreciate that. You can't take away what Joe has done in the industry. No doubt he's done legendary things especially with Big Pun and early TS days. But people tend to ignore the bad things he's done when you really dig deep. On my other channel PANDA CHOP! News I interview a lot of people from his past and you see business wise it's not great.
This when New York got soft....after like 98/99
Why do you say that?
Irv was wrong for that. Joe and everyone called him out and rightfully so.
I wouldn’t be bragging about my exploits with my former artist especially in the Me-Too. If Ashanti decided to call the dogs on Irv, she wouldn’t be wrong
Joe could have called him up behind closed doors though.
Yeah I do think Irv was wrong for how he spoke about the relationship. It was TMI and explicit and disrespectful. Joe should have definitely called though.
@@PANDACHOPChroniclesMost def. That was a cornball move. Irv is still a lame too. Joe is still on his Oprah shyt so all is well.
@@mackvelly8899 “the biggest in the game” he’s Joepra lol 😂
Willow's face when joe said he never looked at JLo ass😂😂😂
😂😂😂 word I was dying when I saw that
The last still shot of Irv is soooo funny!!!
😂😂😂 what you think of this situation with Joe and Irv?
Irv with the Godfather two quote with the i feel he is not my brother line
😂😂😂
Irv Gotti is like a little kid still stuck in a time loop.
Seems like in the past year or so he’s finally moved on
you got a good thing going here..keep it up brother!
Thank you! Hope you check out the other ones. What do you think of the Irv and Joe situation?
@@PANDACHOPChronicles I personally think much of that, if not all of it, should've been handled in person between those men. Social media is a two edged sword, have to be careful.
Absolutely. Things handled in the public eye is always worse.
@@PANDACHOPChronicles 💯actual facts brother
@@Life-ny8bi thanks for watching and commenting 🙏💪
these guys are basically the WWF, commericial, soft rappers, very sensitive, and not really respected in the streets.
So who do you think was at fault for this situation? Both of them?
@@PANDACHOPChronicles they are both definitely lame... But Fat Joe callig someone publicly a sucka, from the chest like that, than saying thats my brother and i love him... that is pathetic.. Irv was a sucker for talking on his ex like he does but confronting one to one is how a brother would handle it, you played him like an enemy... if i were irv i would never trust that man ever again, id probably smack him around... theres no coming back from calling me sucka like that publicly,, and joe didnt even apologize and admit his wrong, he just came around and said he loved him and his family. hes a fake.
@@tompatterson8515 you’re right he didn’t come out right and say I’m sorry Irv he just said I appreciate him I love him maybe I was wrong to do this but that’s what I always think holds Joe back is his lack of accountability. It would do wonders for him from a PR standpoint if be genuinely did admit when be was wrong but seems like he has a hard time doing that
Fat has a point. Irv was really taking too much ish about Ashanti on DC that day
He definitely did but as his friend he should have called him and told him first. The whole internet was already crucifying Irv.
@@pandachop you are straight up OFFICIAL my dude...
Keep up the good work 👍
Thanks bro! 🙏🫡 what you think about this situation with Irv and Joe?
@@PANDACHOPChronicles irv is an idiot, and Joe is definitely different as well. To me, it makes for good comedy 🤣😂🤣 I'm definitely enjoying your content. It's entertaining, educational ( for those not in the know), and all facts, no cap 👍
@@user-yw3ji3cn1r thanks bro I appreciate the support 🙏🫡
@@PANDACHOPChronicles the way I see it you're definitely headed to the next level. Just don't forget to shout out your boy DJ Razor Ray from the ZULU G Family 😉
@@user-yw3ji3cn1r 😂😂😂 no doubt 💪💪💪
When Fat Joe said his son still got the Yow😂😂😂
What was so funny about that?! Lol
Gotti situation is bad enough without his good friend switching sides on him but if you look at the terror squad , Cuban link or anyone around him at the beginning, you can't help but noticed they are no where insight. It's no secret that Joe always had a thing for Ashanti . Saw and opportunity and took his shot. Nasty work if you ask me... 🐍🐍🐍🐍
Well technically Tony Sunshine and Remy Ma still there but yes everyone else really ain’t.
Good Journalism Panda
Thank you. 🙏🫡 what do you think about the Joe and Irv situation?
@@PANDACHOPChronicles"the chemical mixtures of sex combined with jealousy can turn a man into an insane beast." -Napolen Hill. That's my take on irv gotti. I'm going off of what Ashanti said about him in her interview with Angie Martinez. So when Joe called irv a sucka, it was out of tough love, that's all it was. But, I guess it went over Irv's head where he misinterpreted it.
@@extacyl6926 yeah but as his brother I think he should have called him. The public was already at Irv’s neck that he didn’t need to see his brother piling on too even though you could argue he deserved it
@@PANDACHOPChronicles your saying joe could've called irv to speak to him in private, but Irv publicly put Ashanti on blast on DRINK CHAMPS, (Sexually degrading her) so what goes around comes around. Irv didn't have to publicly say what he said about her (Ashanti)
@@extacyl6926 he absolutely didn’t but he don’t have a friendship with Ashanti anymore when he’s doing that so I get it but if he had a current friendship with her and did that it would be even worse. Joe and Irv were still friends when Joe did that
Irv need to do a record with benzino & jarule.
😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂 why
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Thank you! What do you think about this Irv and Joe situation?
lmao! the irv face!!!
😂😂😂 it’s a good one right?
TA got to do an interview with the great Panda Chop, what a privileged individual haha. That line was awesome. The whole video was very interesting. Love this channel
😂😂😂 thanks bro. What you think about this situation with Irv and Joe?
Wack 100 saying irv gotti got a cane cant walk took a stroke hes in rehab
Very sad situation 🙏
I love Ja Rule I still feel Irv is bitter over Ashanti but Fat Joe is shady as well.... They're too much alike in my opinion
Who do you think is at fault in this situation with Joe and Irv?
@@PANDACHOPChronicles I couldn't complete the video due to being on my lunch break at work but it's giving they both have big Egos so it's kinds hard to say
@@jessicajackson2438 I agree about the egos. Hope you finish it. Thanks for watching and commenting 🫡
@@PANDACHOPChronicles You're welcome I love your videos
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Comparing two rapists to calling someone a bitch is nuts
pun was my fav back in the day rip
RIP 🙏 very sad he didn’t get to reach his full potential
Fat Joe has longevity his still relevant to this day.
I don’t think anyone said he’s not relevant as a elder statesman in hip hop that people respect and enjoy listening to interview wise and stories but I don’t think people checking for the music as much anymore
I think Joe a stand up guy and would give irv a public apology if that really was the issue . The Ashanti thing I think is water under the bridge . It’s no beef , but I think the 50 thing is really the issue . If it was me and I’m a cancer as well , so is 50 . I can’t have you close to me and my love ones . You break bread with my enemy
But Joe had plenty of opportunities to really take FULL accountability and apologize. He did it a little in several interviews but it was very minor like “maybe on IG wasn’t the right way”.
@@PANDACHOPChronicles ig definitely not the right way 💯
@@logicsir5257 yea if you got the man phone number just call
I agree with Fat Joe, Irv talking about Ashanti 20yrs later all the time is awful. Its a bad look. And him throwing it out there that they were lovers is a bad look also. Like hes clout chasing
Definitely Irv could have done things better. I don’t think many would agree that Irv was right for how he did it, but Joe being irvs brother should have called him first
Fat Joe wants parts of that 200 million irv got 😂😂😂
300 mill lol and I’m sure he would but to be fair who wouldn’t lol
panda i think its time to show your face. your becoming a household name with a great channel, why not show your followers and fans who you are? i think many people would and do agree with me.
Joe always been a snake
The industry is so jacked up, to many tough guys for me.
Industry is definitely shady
Joe had a chance to fill that void with the infamous TMP (THE MICROPHONE PRINCE). This move would've probably kept him on top for at least another 10yrs. R.i.p..Big Pun✌🏽❤️
You’re saying he should have signed Chris Rivers?
Fat Joe used to be real close with Irv, i understand how he feels betrayed by Joe being close to Fifty. Actually, Fifty did the same thing with Camron and Jimmy.
I can understand that comparison. Jimmy ended up hanging out with 50 during that Cam beef
These guys are like 60. It’s embarrassing.
Who do you think was wrong? Both?
@@PANDACHOPChronicles the guy who is calling women bitches in public but is always acting like a girl
Fat Joe one of our NYC Legends started out as an Underdog yet is still Famous 30 Years later and still poppin and Irv and Ja and that whole Team are now Hasbeens and feel some type of way About those who flew above them. That's my take as a New Yorker for that Era who still a huge Hip Hop head.
Appreciate you watching and commenting. Joe has the public eye but that don’t mean he got more money. Irv signed that 300 mill deal.
@@PANDACHOPChroniclesI'm sure most of that is gone, Taxes took half off the bat all these legal fees, living beyond their means is common for dudes like Irv getting shaken down by premy and them plus it's not about money it's about fame and respect no one cares about Gotti and then no more while everyone else can tour the world arena style at any time like 50 look at them corner events they tried to out together lol
@@anthonyarcanumsanctumregnu9551 well 200 mill was to go to finance projects and 100 mill was for his pockets so lets say 50 mill goes to taxes and fees. If he blows 50 mill that quick then he deserves to be broke. I seriously doubt it though.
Real Talk Irv Should have kept that Ashanti situation to himself. He Volunteered that information smh. I guess it was supposed to be slander but it didnt' work.
He been talking about it for so long it’s just the Drink champs situation was worse cuz he was so intoxicated and amped it up
Sooo basically he mad that he associate with 50 cent. 🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
I think it’s more than that but I definitely think that was part of it
Jealousy is real,,,out here in the streets,,,,we never learn
Who do you think was jealous of who?
Kept-getting-bigger Pun
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@PANDACHOPChronicles I meant as in instead of "Big pun" he "kept getting bigger Pun" because he kept gaining weight up until his passing. And he's still growing, musically, that is! People still buy his music or discover him. 😉✌️
Ain’t never heard of a man refer to it as “topless” 🤣 🍈 🍈
😂😂😂 that part had me dying
i kinda see why fifty aint like irv and his brother lol
Why?
@@PANDACHOPChronicles they real light skin bout shit.
Do irv vs mitsubishi tah next
You mean Caddilac tah? 😂 that actually is on my list and so is Mic Geronimo
@@PANDACHOPChroniclesand jay-z vs irv when irv trying esco to the inc in 02