Arundodonax ... he was very lucky that she left the reed in the horn, He just as well could’ve cracked her reed as he picked up her horn and jam it in to his teeth again...or anything else. She saved his ass. That has never happened to me in my 55 years of playing the oboe.
Went from a French system to a German one. That’s beyond impressive. It’s like performing on a viola with tuning issues and being able to flawlessly play in tune by adjusting on every string without thinking twice.
@@NPC54619 Are we 100% certain of that? Because that does not at all look or sound like a Viennese oboe... There was something called the thumbplate oboe that was pretty common in the UK. Maybe that's what they're referring to in the description? I don't really know exactly how different those two are, but I don't believe it's as substantial as the difference between French-Viennese. Nonetheless, agreed that if it is French-to-Thumbplate (or vice versa) that is also impressive. Also having thought about this more, maybe my perspective is too American here? Maybe there isn't as much variety in response and resistance as there is with American scrape reeds? Personally I find that hard to believe though.
@@randomelephant4476 Well, you can learn more than one fingering system. And once you've learned it, there's really not much more to learn or variety in what you can learn. But reeds have virtually infinite variety in tone, response, resistance, dynamic range, etc. I guess that's why to me the fact that he could narrow in on how to make that reed sound decent so quickly is impressive. Then again, I would also imagine that if these two have been playing together for a while, that probably is not the first time he's played on her reeds or her oboe. Just a guess.
The way he plays on a French oboe and picks up a German one with a completely different fingering system..Well done him!.. it was a great concert btw!!!!
I'd say what Olivier did was more difficult and impressive than cleaning an oboe and replacing a reed, but all musicians involved acted very professionally in this incident.
A lot of people here asked about the "completely different fingering system" and the "difference in reeds/reed styles" between the first and second oboists here. A pretty good guess is that Oliver plays on a standard, conservatoire fingering, while Rosie (like me) learned upon a thumbplate system. HOWEVER, I would also guess that Rosie's instrument is what is called "Dual System", that is, it actually combines both systems, conservatoire and thumbplate. In this case, all Oliver would need to do would be to keep his thumb pressed firmly on the thumbplate, and use his regular conservatoire fingerings for the solo (not such a hardship). As a professional he would know this. [more detail] Nowadays it is extremely rare to find a professional-standard thumbplate oboe that is NOT a dual system. All the manufacturers cater to the majority (standard conservatoire) and add a thumbplate as an addition, if requested. You can easily add a thumbplate to a conservatoire system, but not vice versa, and it makes things like A/Bb trill and B/C trill much, much easier to achieve.
I can see your passion for the oboe, and it's great that you appreciate its unique qualities. The oboe does have a distinct and enchanting sound that can be captivating. However, let's not forget that musical tastes can be highly subjective. While you may find the oboe 'badass,' others might have different opinions. Every instrument has its strengths and characteristics that appeal to different people. Some may prefer the power and versatility of a guitar, the warmth of a cello, or the expressiveness of a piano. It's the diversity of musical instruments and styles that makes the world of music so rich and exciting. In summary, while the oboe might be your personal favorite and you find it 'badass,' it's important to remember that what resonates with one person may not resonate with another. Let's celebrate the diversity of musical tastes and the beauty of music in all its forms.
The german system is not completely different: has only the different the automatic "portavoce". but the fingers are the same. The english system instead is competely different to the french. by the way : he is great !!!
A NIGHTMARE situation for any oboist! We're lucky Olivier was so quick-thinking. It's just astonishing that he was able to adapt so quickly to someone else's reed! Amazing. The stuff nightmares are made of.
Bravo! Now THAT is consummate professionalism! In similar extremis, I saw the Konzertmeister of the Vienna Philharmonic have to contend with a snapped string once and had to repair mid-symphony (Bruckner 7, I think - though I may be wrong).
@@bethanyhu1881 No, saxophone reeds aren't nearly as fragile as oboe reeds. Oboe reeds are incredibly thin, though they still don't often split spontaneously. Saxophone reeds are even less so as they are much thicker. They wear out over time, but never something this immediate unless you really smacked it into something.
There are usually two oboes, plus a cor anglais player. That player might occasionally also play oboe if the composer asks for three of them. In some cases the composer gets REALLY feisty and asks for three oboes AND a cor anglais player!
Everybody comments on how he could switch instruments fluently, but notice the perfect phrasing he keeps as if nothing happened! As if someone just turned down the volume for a second
Anyone else arrive at this thanks to Christian Merlin's wonderful woodwinds show on 'Au coeur de l'orchestra', France Musique, 19.12.21, where he referenced this unforgettable clip?
It looks like he was hitting some water out of a hole (probably the octave hole) and the reed scraped across his face, splitting it, at which point the reed is trash. These things sometimes happen, and he recovered well.
ABSOLUTELY NOT lmfao I'd take the reed off and throw it on mine but I am NOT blowing or sucking anyone else's spit out their oboe 😂😂 and a sacrifice to sound quality lol
Completely different fingering system? Is the 2. oboe a thumbplate system, or what exactly is the difference? I also think that adjusting to the different reed would be the biggest challenge. On a conservatoire system, the differences between "german style" and "french style" fingering are negligible and basically apply to some 3rd octave notes, which may not have been used here at all.
Ya, i am wondering the same. I used to play a loree and know that there are different bore widths, European vs American with the American having a wider bore producing a warmer sound. But the reed would most definitely be the biggest difference since its so personally preferenced
Water in the upper joint. It is his responsibility to ensure that his solo passages are played clearly. He neglected swabbing the upper joint between important solo passages and the second oboist should always hold her oboe in her lap...keeping it away from the principal oboist. That might have been the principal oboists second back/up oboe. By the way… Swatting the top joint with your hand will not remedy water in the keys. Blowing the water out is a horrible sound, and he was under pressure. It’s live...and shit happens :-)
Doesn't work that way, in no orchestra I've ever played. That would mean that the 2. oboe would have to not only rehearse their own parts, but also prepare the 1. oboe part, and keep track of both 1. and 2. oboe voices along all of the concert. That's hardly possible and even if, it would essentially require doubling 2. oboe pay. It may not have been the case here, but there are 1. oboe solos that definitely need thorough preparation, even for a pro player in a pro orchestra. You cannot just sight-read and play that stuff in a concert, let alone in a surprise emergency condition.
Theartgivers S.P His reed broke. The job of the 2nd chair, if the 1st chair's reed breaks during a solo, they give their oboe to first chair and replace his/her reed by the end of the solo. It's pretty ingenious.
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It's actually more impressive that he was able to quickly adapt to playing on someone else's reeds than a different oboe I think.
Arundodonax ... he was very lucky that she left the reed in the horn, He just as well could’ve cracked her reed as he picked up her horn and jam it in to his teeth again...or anything else.
She saved his ass. That has never happened to me in my 55 years of playing the oboe.
It would be, except they're two completely different fingering styles oboes, and so the fact that he flawlessly adapts to the new one is impressive.
Went from a French system to a German one. That’s beyond impressive. It’s like performing on a viola with tuning issues and being able to flawlessly play in tune by adjusting on every string without thinking twice.
@@NPC54619 Are we 100% certain of that? Because that does not at all look or sound like a Viennese oboe... There was something called the thumbplate oboe that was pretty common in the UK. Maybe that's what they're referring to in the description? I don't really know exactly how different those two are, but I don't believe it's as substantial as the difference between French-Viennese. Nonetheless, agreed that if it is French-to-Thumbplate (or vice versa) that is also impressive. Also having thought about this more, maybe my perspective is too American here? Maybe there isn't as much variety in response and resistance as there is with American scrape reeds? Personally I find that hard to believe though.
@@randomelephant4476 Well, you can learn more than one fingering system. And once you've learned it, there's really not much more to learn or variety in what you can learn. But reeds have virtually infinite variety in tone, response, resistance, dynamic range, etc. I guess that's why to me the fact that he could narrow in on how to make that reed sound decent so quickly is impressive. Then again, I would also imagine that if these two have been playing together for a while, that probably is not the first time he's played on her reeds or her oboe. Just a guess.
when you think about it... probably more people watched this recovery scene than the original concert
The way he plays on a French oboe and picks up a German one with a completely different fingering system..Well done him!.. it was a great concert btw!!!!
he has mad skills!
I'm a oboe student, anda i wanna know what's the difference, between any oboe keys system can u explain me please?
To be honest, it is not really that different. Maybe you were thinking clarinet?
I asked the oboeist.. I was at the concert..
Sorry I didn't get back to too u earlier... Basically, the oboe he grabbed had a second thumb hole on the back whereas his normal oboe didn't.
That was a faust switch.
it's been six years, but I love this comment
Remarkable recovery from Olivier Stankiewicz and truly awesome, professional support from Rosie Jenkins.
Time for a big raise for both of them!
having your expensive property snatched out of your hands is "professional support"? haha. noted.
@@BerzerkaDurkyou, are a dink
When classical music performances need live action replays...
Tom let’s go to the booth to catch that one again! Ooh and a smooth recovery from the principal oboist.
Wow! Read these description! The real hero is 2nd oboe Rosie Jenkins 👏👏👏
I'd say what Olivier did was more difficult and impressive than cleaning an oboe and replacing a reed, but all musicians involved acted very professionally in this incident.
A lot of people here asked about the "completely different fingering system" and the "difference in reeds/reed styles" between the first and second oboists here.
A pretty good guess is that Oliver plays on a standard, conservatoire fingering, while Rosie (like me) learned upon a thumbplate system. HOWEVER, I would also guess that Rosie's instrument is what is called "Dual System", that is, it actually combines both systems, conservatoire and thumbplate.
In this case, all Oliver would need to do would be to keep his thumb pressed firmly on the thumbplate, and use his regular conservatoire fingerings for the solo (not such a hardship). As a professional he would know this.
[more detail] Nowadays it is extremely rare to find a professional-standard thumbplate oboe that is NOT a dual system. All the manufacturers cater to the majority (standard conservatoire) and add a thumbplate as an addition, if requested. You can easily add a thumbplate to a conservatoire system, but not vice versa, and it makes things like A/Bb trill and B/C trill much, much easier to achieve.
This is why oboists are badass!
Agreeeee
I can see your passion for the oboe, and it's great that you appreciate its unique qualities. The oboe does have a distinct and enchanting sound that can be captivating. However, let's not forget that musical tastes can be highly subjective.
While you may find the oboe 'badass,' others might have different opinions. Every instrument has its strengths and characteristics that appeal to different people. Some may prefer the power and versatility of a guitar, the warmth of a cello, or the expressiveness of a piano. It's the diversity of musical instruments and styles that makes the world of music so rich and exciting.
In summary, while the oboe might be your personal favorite and you find it 'badass,' it's important to remember that what resonates with one person may not resonate with another. Let's celebrate the diversity of musical tastes and the beauty of music in all its forms.
@mditm6966 this sounds like a legal dissertation or a thesis, lol
@@mditm6966what did j just read? i mean, you arent wrong 😭 but wow
@@mditm6966 are you seriously using chatgpt for youtube comments? you're not gonna get likes bro
So glad this showed up in my recommendations 3 years later! He sounded great no matter what!
The german system is not completely different: has only the different the automatic "portavoce". but the fingers are the same. The english system instead is competely different to the french. by the way : he is great !!!
Its soo perfect timing because when olivier swap his oboe to rosie's oboe, vocal duet started singing
Quel sang froid et quelle maîtrise ! Bravo Mr Stankiewicz ! Magnifique, comme d'habitude... et quelle collègue stoïque ;-)
@TwoSetViolin have to do a reaction to this along with other great musical comebacks during a performance
Amazing sang froid. And he didn't miss a beat. Great teamwork.
Actually he DID miss 1 measure during the transfer.
A NIGHTMARE situation for any oboist! We're lucky Olivier was so quick-thinking. It's just astonishing that he was able to adapt so quickly to someone else's reed! Amazing. The stuff nightmares are made of.
Rosie helped Oliver clean up his Oboe? How sweet is that
haha nice recovery!
Bravo! Now THAT is consummate professionalism! In similar extremis, I saw the Konzertmeister of the Vienna Philharmonic have to contend with a snapped string once and had to repair mid-symphony (Bruckner 7, I think - though I may be wrong).
Just by watching this I got anxiety and sweaty palms. What a badass Boss.
So glad I chose piano and sax instead.
i’ve seen videos of a piano string snapping, and as a sax can’t your reed still snap? i don’t play an instrument with reeds
@@bethanyhu1881 No, saxophone reeds aren't nearly as fragile as oboe reeds. Oboe reeds are incredibly thin, though they still don't often split spontaneously. Saxophone reeds are even less so as they are much thicker. They wear out over time, but never something this immediate unless you really smacked it into something.
The name of the video is just the icing on the cake
I remember when this was called descent into oboe hell
Same.
Sheer bad-assery. Now THATS a Principal!
professionalism, i love him!
the way my heart DROPPED when his reed broke
Waoo he has fast reaction, very good thinking, one question how many oboe player in orchestra? Thanks
There are usually two oboes, plus a cor anglais player. That player might occasionally also play oboe if the composer asks for three of them. In some cases the composer gets REALLY feisty and asks for three oboes AND a cor anglais player!
@@LondonSymphonyOrchestra , thank you so much for the informative answer
London Symphony Orchestra
Like Stravinsky’s Petrushka uses four oboes
Everybody comments on how he could switch instruments fluently, but notice the perfect phrasing he keeps as if nothing happened! As if someone just turned down the volume for a second
Great job but if I were him, probably I would do a clean during scene XVII, which is tacet for oboes.
Anyone else arrive at this thanks to Christian Merlin's wonderful woodwinds show on 'Au coeur de l'orchestra', France Musique, 19.12.21, where he referenced this unforgettable clip?
The fastest gun in the west !!!!!
oboe players are not like the rest of us
I’m still confused as to what that movement was that lead to the reed breaking...
See the video description for the explanation!
He was trying to tap the water build up in his reed to clear it.
@@JewelBlueIbanez - It was in his octave vent.
@@namelessone3339 Exactly, not the reed.
@@frantech6935 Yeah, but he bumped the reed against his mouth when trying to get water out of the vent.
savage!
I think the moral of the story is to always have a spare oboe that you can grab, just in case.
Wait did he just snatch the other person’s oboe??😂
good on him!!!!
HEROES, both of them
he pulled it out of his inventory 💀
Wouldn’t be allowed to do that during Covid !
That's really me in band tho 💀 my reed keeps dying
"completely different fingering system". As a string player, can someone please explain?
0:07 Switches oboe
CircuitsAndStrings 2 Mr Stern meanwhile in COVIDtide...
saved by the thumbplate? Or may he's just that versatile/nimble
A beautiful song but couldn’t find it on Apple Music
Hygiene out the window but skills off the charts!
…. The way he hits the oboe kills me
It looks like he was hitting some water out of a hole (probably the octave hole) and the reed scraped across his face, splitting it, at which point the reed is trash. These things sometimes happen, and he recovered well.
ABSOLUTELY NOT lmfao I'd take the reed off and throw it on mine but I am NOT blowing or sucking anyone else's spit out their oboe 😂😂 and a sacrifice to sound quality lol
The Reed really said, “❤️✨no✨❤️”
Completely different fingering system? Is the 2. oboe a thumbplate system, or what exactly is the difference? I also think that adjusting to the different reed would be the biggest challenge. On a conservatoire system, the differences between "german style" and "french style" fingering are negligible and basically apply to some 3rd octave notes, which may not have been used here at all.
Ya, i am wondering the same. I used to play a loree and know that there are different bore widths, European vs American with the American having a wider bore producing a warmer sound. But the reed would most definitely be the biggest difference since its so personally preferenced
What music is this? I tried finding this song but I couldn’t
bassoon anyone?
the real purpose of the second oboist (coming from a second oboist)
I swear to God oboists spend too much time playing around with the fucking reeds.
Slap it up, flip it, rub it down.......
He caught COVID after that
Ha! Not back in 2017 he didn't... Oh happy worry-free days.
Water in the upper joint. It is his responsibility to ensure that his solo passages are played clearly. He neglected swabbing the upper joint between important solo passages and the second oboist should always hold her oboe in her lap...keeping it away from the principal oboist. That might have been the principal oboists second back/up oboe.
By the way… Swatting the top joint with your hand will not remedy water in the keys. Blowing the water out is a horrible sound, and he was under pressure. It’s live...and shit happens :-)
Who is the man singing?
Reed dead redemption
That’s low key pretty gross
Oh my actually me lmaoooo
Why didn’t he just give the solo to the second oboe player? She’s the second oboist of the LSO. Clearly she can play the solo.
It needed to be done fast. It's faster to pick up hers than to have her understand that she needs to start playing, within split seconds.
This is how these things are supposed to be handled in the symphony.
Ego
It would be a violation of the union rules. LOL
Doesn't work that way, in no orchestra I've ever played. That would mean that the 2. oboe would have to not only rehearse their own parts, but also prepare the 1. oboe part, and keep track of both 1. and 2. oboe voices along all of the concert. That's hardly possible and even if, it would essentially require doubling 2. oboe pay. It may not have been the case here, but there are 1. oboe solos that definitely need thorough preparation, even for a pro player in a pro orchestra. You cannot just sight-read and play that stuff in a concert, let alone in a surprise emergency condition.
S A N T A
Rubbish in the octave tone hole?
this was clearly pre-coronavirus 🤔
Hero my ass! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What happened?
Theartgivers S.P His reed broke. The job of the 2nd chair, if the 1st chair's reed breaks during a solo, they give their oboe to first chair and replace his/her reed by the end of the solo. It's pretty ingenious.
Band Geek uh huh, in BAND!
You can play other oboe and other people’s reeds ?