Networking and making premade is not really pugging/lfg at that point. So in the end this video isn’t how to solve lfg, it’s how to avoid it as quickly as possible.
So how does everyone else do it? The whole point is you slowly build up people that are good like you (if you're good) at an entry level and work your way up.
Actually, most of my time on this game spent this season is not with my main group - it's with either pugs or people from my btag. And recently if you've been following the stream I've been playing more enhance than prot paladin.
While correct, as someone who pugged to ~3.3K on an off-meta DPS (SV Hunter) around a month ago, everything he says rings true. The first part about "just reroll and/or get a team" is kind of a meme but section 3 is all gold. Most people between 3K and 3.3K are easily doing like 10-30% less DPS than they could be doing on their specs. Not that DPS is everything, but it's pretty much the main metric you are judged on (and therefore potentially invited back on) when pugging.
Literally this. They are so out of touch. Playing with other people besides their main team isn't pugging. Drop the Comms and play with random people. That is pugging
I don’t think playing meta dps even matters until very high keys. 10-12s I usually only see people overgeared and overscored for the keys get invite, kind of regardless of specs.
Yoda's points are all good but unfortunately the state of pugging is Blizzard's fault. He is just giving tips on navigating a broken system. Even when you do everything he lists, pugging still sucks ass in high end m+ and will not change without large systemic overhauls from Blizz.
Very true, Its a little frustrating when people keep trying to label it a community problem or perception problem, which is always partially true. But that pattern was fostered by the bad decisions Blizz made for this season.
No that is silly. You want to overhaul what is natural human instinct and behavior. There's nothing wrong with the system, it's a human element like with real life you have to play and overcome. Else you just have people projecting and just claiming the system needs a change, which usually means some silly stringent change that forces people to do something against what is natural.
@@Despond Lol human nature and behavior is exactly why it's a system problem. Classic fallacy in the corporate world where the system is bad and the blame is put on people for acting how people naturally do. It's both the system and people, but more on the system being bad.
Yo is it too late to reroll to prot pala? Can I still get tempered hero considering ive missed on nearly 3 months of vaults? Assuming i use char boost to 70 and clear my first 10 next week, that leaves only 7-8 vaults before season ends
635 Assassin - Always top dps, always the last guy standing when everyone dies. Yet there is more day when I can't make a single io score then days when when i can. I play 5 hours at least every day, usually more. LFG is tragic, never been worse, you just can't beat it without making a group wich is at that point isn't lfg anymore...
is this really a problem? of course you're going to run into a ceiling earlier without voice comms. Either be ok with that, or start networking more and take his advice in this video. those are your options
the first 5 words of your sentence already just showed youe the problem. no one gives a shit about your dps thats not what bricks keys, its CD management and utility. Keys are about surviving not if you can top dps, if your saying " i out interrupt the tank every key" that's different but if your saying " im always top dps" then yeah your the problem. you can time most 12''s with dog shit dps and the healer wont have to do anything if every cast is being cc'd or interrupted. tank busters being delayed, there's a million things u can do to help aside from top dpsing
The conversation should end at ''reroll to find groups quicker''. As a Havoc DH, on 2800 rio and completed keys at +12 I have HARD time to find groups and get declined even on +10 Frustrating and shouldn't be norm. Blizz should find a way to end ''meta'' classes, perhaps on a random qeue that has raider io + ilvl parameters and u cant pick who u want?
And then comes the problem, do you have the right dispells? Do you have enough externals to survive? Do you ahve bloodlust? Combat Ress? Oh man, imgaine playing GB on a semi high key, with a Holypriest, Monk Tank, Havoc DH, Shadow and Warrior DPS - Well good luck playing this key, its already depleted. - You can do something liek this, but it has to be split from "normal" m+, and you have to get generic ways of lust, cr and every healer has to be able to dispell everything. Otherwise this will never be playable
Its basically impossible to end meta classes when the game is infinitely scalable without making every single class the exact same. If anything they should relook at dungeon design and instead of making mob mechanics that only cater to specific classes for instance this season arakara is all poison dispel or grim/stonevault is all curse dispel so classes that can deal with those are a great asset to the dungeon . so instead there should be the choice to take different routes in a dungeon that can be catered to strengths of different classes like if some packs instead of having dispel have more casts which you could pull with a melee heavy comp that dont have dispels but more interrupts or different mob packs have more than one spell pool to cater to more than just one type of dispel. which makes dungeons less linear which is bad for casual players but i think it would vastly improve the experience for semi-hardcore to hardcore m+ players.
@@pettron3506 a dungeon re-design would solve this. U can do combat rez without being a druid/dk/pala, u can do BL with drums without being shammy/evoker/mage/hunter, and so on. All keys should be doable by all classes. Its so annoying to see low io players with minimal experience still looking for ''meta'' classes to do a key. I agree with what u said, but would save us from waiting 2h for a queue or having to reroll and not play the class I enjoy the most just because blizz decided to buff the shit out of some classes.
blizz cant really end meta classes, there will be always at least 5 "stronger" class for m+ at least. For example, look paladin. Prot was dogshit at release, and blizz buffed the class enough time to be meta. They didnt want to "create" meta, they just wanted to help prot pala not to be a total dogwater. But since it got more attention than lets say veng dh, ppl figured out that prot is now just better than the rest of the tanks. Ofc below 15, everything is playble, but in lfg, pugs wont realize that, and i know they even want aug or bl for a +10, while drum exist for example. Drum should be enough for a +10 instead of waiting a bl class. So yea, the problem is that there will always be "stronger" classes, and im not necessary mean dmg wise stronger, but also stronger utility wise (dispells, immunes, cc, group defensives). Like it or not, there will be meta. Always. Every season.
I don’t know man, having a list of classes to play doesn’t help much, just ran an 8 with a tank that didn’t use shield block and ignore pain, I was just pumping heals into him, while I let him know he should be using them 100%(was ignored) we proceeded and he was one shot at first boss. I left the key instantly and wished then good luck, needless to say I’ve seen more tanks try to tank this season with absolutely no clue what they are doing and be over 2k io with 620+ gear.
@@LudwindML Im sorry for you, but Knote3 is right, 2k IO is like bottom ~50% - 620 can anybody have, who just farms +4 keys. Yoda is more like talking about +12 and up Everything (even on +12 keys) is doomed currently. The M+ squish hitted hard. There are so many boosted players currently (and i mean seriously boosted, not just bad) in the last few weeks its crazy. havent had that much/or atleast they are not spotted by me, in thel ast seasons. I was more a fan of the old +20 as weekly - the playerbase was more spread - and it didnt felt that bad to play in "low" keys to farm crests. Feels like toxicity is even higher now, seeing so many 2.7k players on their alts in +4/7 keys, who are litterly getting mad because ppl are bad, and they dont understand, that they are learning... nearly everything till +7 can be "carried" or done without much effort - and then comes the true learning curve for "normal" players.
@ even if that’s the case, player io is starting to mean absolutely nothing, I’ve seen 2.6k in pally tank miss patty cake over and over, calls team bad and dips. The content has a good level of difficulty, the problem I’m seeing is people rolling for meta classes without understand why they are meta and without using the utility they have.
Yoda, You've been playing dps lately, is further key progress on your pala impossible at current state of the game? Will next patch change anything - the new ring and stuff?
The only true and real advice is to play the most common god comp and nothing else, do not play rogue, do not play mage. If you want to be invited to keys you play Prot pal, Disc, Aug, DK or enhance, nothing else.
Womp womp, have a big IO score as main. Thats basicly this vid. Try it with a fresh account. No cheating please. Would make e nice series to for people to watch
"Try it with a fresh account" sure, lvl up a meta class to 80, buy the 570 gear from ah (its 10k gold), invite a full heroic then a full normal raid run for yourself ( no1 is on your token, no1 is on your armor type, for example: lvl 80 shaman, no other mail and pala/priest/sham), then u prob around 600 i lvl with meta class and even tho u have 0 score some1 still gonna invite you around a +5 key, you loot your lets say +5 key and u can start farming +8-10 by pushing it. Thats how you gear a fresh char, i just did this method with my prot pala, and i got 2k and 610 i lvl in 1 day. And since it was fresh char, ppl were unable to see my main score.
@@godhand4209 LOL META Just play non meta and make it bit harder. I see lots of people doing it. 2k is nothing with meta class. You got boosted to 2k cus you are meta.
Sadly the only thing that is viable on this list is the reroll part. Everything else is not wrong ofc but it will not change the fact youll have to sit in q for 1h+ most evenings to even hope to play the game.
comments are hilarious, goat trying to help y'all get score and you cry that he's out of touch - how do you think he got to rank 1 io? by knowing how to play the game, both inside and outside of keys.
Just fix m+ , make m+ solo q or make life easier for tanks and healers , so people who make keys find actual tanks or and healers , that way everyone get to experience m+ endgame , split the community , makem+ solo q max key to +7 , so people don't farm max crests and that way you get geared and can go to manual key , where the raider io ladder matter , like something , blizzard know what to do , what are they doing rn ? waiting for us to give suggestions always ? they run out of bs to fix ? this is a joke , never seen a big mmo company waiting for people to tell them what to do , thats crazy.
Getting into groups on my 2725 disc priest is much easier than my 2725 pres evoker which I find really odd since the evoker brings good healing and a ton of utility. Far more than the disc. /shrug
Yes, but aug brings all the utility what pres evoker brings. Also, you dont have PI for example on pres, which is doesnt matter around 2.7k score, but ppl are just dmg-whores so they like getting PI. And ofc, since ppl on 2.7k also watch streams they just see the 0 pres evoker and the 45 disc priest in every key, so they gonna choose disc obviously. Sadly the fact that "evoker brings good healing" is not really enough for m+ atm.
I heal and my mate tanks so all we look for is dps so when im setting up the group, im looking to cover brez and hero first then mostly its by experience. I will take some off meta specs if they are experienced. I mean i have some specs i prefer, like ret pallies and a warlock. I find shammies have this magical ability to forget they have hero so im not super fond of them. Edit: i will take a dps who cc's and interrupts over anyone. Key frustration
Hey Yoda this is guys, we are done with this shitty annoying game and we are not paying subs for hours of queues anymore. We playing other games like path of exile 2 and would love to see u making content of that. Trust me its a masterpiece. And just wanted to say u are a gift and caring content creator so would be nice if u do that❤
Nothing you said wasn't already the obvious thing to do, which they tell you everywhere. Add people after the run, reroll to fotm specs, get out of lfg as fast as possible. Most of us who are pugging just want to play the game without having to go through the whole social interaction part of it, while still progressing your character (in b4 idiots start replying, 'OMG IT'S A MMORPG'). It's 2024, we're not the happy social kids we were back in 2008, sure some if you still are but I'm talking about the majority. You're also not really in a position to say you pugged on your alts when all of your chars are showing 3640 io main score when you queue for something. Ofc you're going to get invited, people will check who you are with that high score and just inv you.
wow has become waaaay too hard for 90% or even more of the active m+ players, it has never been so obvious that score and ilevel means absolutly nothing, for tanks 3k score means 2k score and for healers the same, since they get invited everywhere. also lust dps are inflated in a similar way. this game is way to hard for the avarage skill ppl bring, and no one is talking about it.
Tank is literally the least carriable role. 3k score == 2k for tanks is ludicrous. So many tank busters this season, if the tank doesnt play properly the key is over in no time
It is not that difficult to figure out. You either play meta spec to get invited to keys or you play off meta in a premade group. Obviously you can easily find groups below 12 no matter what class you are but past that you just need to follow yoda's advice.
@@Robin...222 idk, wanted to main brewmaster. Dont really get invited to anything above a 10, swap to my prot pally and ita free real estate to get in keys. Quite a bit of his advice applies.
Maybe a “hot take” but if you’re any type of serious about keys you should be trying to get out of full pugging in the LFG with no comms. You aren’t going to just log on, slam a few quick 15’s with no comms with random people on a Thursday night. Pugging/LFG is totally fine for keys in the 10-13 ish range.
Networking and making premade is not really pugging/lfg at that point. So in the end this video isn’t how to solve lfg, it’s how to avoid it as quickly as possible.
So how does everyone else do it? The whole point is you slowly build up people that are good like you (if you're good) at an entry level and work your way up.
1. Play Prot Paladin
2. Don’t actually use LFG
3. Get good
K Yoda.
As a T1 tank, pugging might be the one aspect of the game you have no experience with.
Actually, most of my time on this game spent this season is not with my main group - it's with either pugs or people from my btag. And recently if you've been following the stream I've been playing more enhance than prot paladin.
While correct, as someone who pugged to ~3.3K on an off-meta DPS (SV Hunter) around a month ago, everything he says rings true. The first part about "just reroll and/or get a team" is kind of a meme but section 3 is all gold. Most people between 3K and 3.3K are easily doing like 10-30% less DPS than they could be doing on their specs. Not that DPS is everything, but it's pretty much the main metric you are judged on (and therefore potentially invited back on) when pugging.
@@YoDaEZpeople from your btag arent puggs mate
@@Azortharionwouldnt Call sv off meta
Literally this. They are so out of touch. Playing with other people besides their main team isn't pugging. Drop the Comms and play with random people. That is pugging
I don’t think playing meta dps even matters until very high keys. 10-12s I usually only see people overgeared and overscored for the keys get invite, kind of regardless of specs.
No efficient groups matter always, it's a massive difference for example having a bres, hero and utility vs none.
Yoda's points are all good but unfortunately the state of pugging is Blizzard's fault. He is just giving tips on navigating a broken system. Even when you do everything he lists, pugging still sucks ass in high end m+ and will not change without large systemic overhauls from Blizz.
Very true, Its a little frustrating when people keep trying to label it a community problem or perception problem, which is always partially true. But that pattern was fostered by the bad decisions Blizz made for this season.
No that is silly. You want to overhaul what is natural human instinct and behavior. There's nothing wrong with the system, it's a human element like with real life you have to play and overcome. Else you just have people projecting and just claiming the system needs a change, which usually means some silly stringent change that forces people to do something against what is natural.
@@Despond Lol human nature and behavior is exactly why it's a system problem.
Classic fallacy in the corporate world where the system is bad and the blame is put on people for acting how people naturally do.
It's both the system and people, but more on the system being bad.
Thanks Yoda. Just a suggestion, it would be a lot of fun watching you do a "Zero to Hero" series with an off meta tank or dps.
Yo is it too late to reroll to prot pala? Can I still get tempered hero considering ive missed on nearly 3 months of vaults? Assuming i use char boost to 70 and clear my first 10 next week, that leaves only 7-8 vaults before season ends
635 Assassin - Always top dps, always the last guy standing when everyone dies. Yet there is more day when I can't make a single io score then days when when i can. I play 5 hours at least every day, usually more. LFG is tragic, never been worse, you just can't beat it without making a group wich is at that point isn't lfg anymore...
what's your io
is this really a problem? of course you're going to run into a ceiling earlier without voice comms. Either be ok with that, or start networking more and take his advice in this video. those are your options
If you performed that well, the tank and healers you would have added after a key would welcome playing with you again.
the first 5 words of your sentence already just showed youe the problem. no one gives a shit about your dps thats not what bricks keys, its CD management and utility. Keys are about surviving not if you can top dps, if your saying " i out interrupt the tank every key" that's different but if your saying " im always top dps" then yeah your the problem. you can time most 12''s with dog shit dps and the healer wont have to do anything if every cast is being cc'd or interrupted. tank busters being delayed, there's a million things u can do to help aside from top dpsing
@@Sn0wyBlazer7965You can not time most 12s with bad DPS, now we know you don't have any high key experience.
what you know about real pug life?
Hey yoda can you make a video on how i can improve picking players for my own keys. Like what to look at in logs things like that.
The conversation should end at ''reroll to find groups quicker''. As a Havoc DH, on 2800 rio and completed keys at +12 I have HARD time to find groups and get declined even on +10
Frustrating and shouldn't be norm. Blizz should find a way to end ''meta'' classes, perhaps on a random qeue that has raider io + ilvl parameters and u cant pick who u want?
And then comes the problem, do you have the right dispells? Do you have enough externals to survive? Do you ahve bloodlust? Combat Ress?
Oh man, imgaine playing GB on a semi high key, with a Holypriest, Monk Tank, Havoc DH, Shadow and Warrior DPS - Well good luck playing this key, its already depleted. -
You can do something liek this, but it has to be split from "normal" m+, and you have to get generic ways of lust, cr and every healer has to be able to dispell everything. Otherwise this will never be playable
Its basically impossible to end meta classes when the game is infinitely scalable without making every single class the exact same. If anything they should relook at dungeon design and instead of making mob mechanics that only cater to specific classes for instance this season arakara is all poison dispel or grim/stonevault is all curse dispel so classes that can deal with those are a great asset to the dungeon . so instead there should be the choice to take different routes in a dungeon that can be catered to strengths of different classes like if some packs instead of having dispel have more casts which you could pull with a melee heavy comp that dont have dispels but more interrupts or different mob packs have more than one spell pool to cater to more than just one type of dispel. which makes dungeons less linear which is bad for casual players but i think it would vastly improve the experience for semi-hardcore to hardcore m+ players.
@@pettron3506 a dungeon re-design would solve this. U can do combat rez without being a druid/dk/pala, u can do BL with drums without being shammy/evoker/mage/hunter, and so on.
All keys should be doable by all classes. Its so annoying to see low io players with minimal experience still looking for ''meta'' classes to do a key.
I agree with what u said, but would save us from waiting 2h for a queue or having to reroll and not play the class I enjoy the most just because blizz decided to buff the shit out of some classes.
@@crispymcchicken5133 good ideas mentioned here, wish blizz thought of different paths depending on ur group setup.
blizz cant really end meta classes, there will be always at least 5 "stronger" class for m+ at least. For example, look paladin. Prot was dogshit at release, and blizz buffed the class enough time to be meta. They didnt want to "create" meta, they just wanted to help prot pala not to be a total dogwater. But since it got more attention than lets say veng dh, ppl figured out that prot is now just better than the rest of the tanks. Ofc below 15, everything is playble, but in lfg, pugs wont realize that, and i know they even want aug or bl for a +10, while drum exist for example. Drum should be enough for a +10 instead of waiting a bl class. So yea, the problem is that there will always be "stronger" classes, and im not necessary mean dmg wise stronger, but also stronger utility wise (dispells, immunes, cc, group defensives). Like it or not, there will be meta. Always. Every season.
I don’t know man, having a list of classes to play doesn’t help much, just ran an 8 with a tank that didn’t use shield block and ignore pain, I was just pumping heals into him, while I let him know he should be using them 100%(was ignored) we proceeded and he was one shot at first boss. I left the key instantly and wished then good luck, needless to say I’ve seen more tanks try to tank this season with absolutely no clue what they are doing and be over 2k io with 620+ gear.
TBF 2k io and 620 gear is the floor at this point in the season. I could ding 80 and get that by the next day
@ that’s unfortunate to hear, I’m here playing causally and seems like it’s a slow climb unless you have these insane daily play sessions of 5+ hours.
@@LudwindML Im sorry for you, but Knote3 is right, 2k IO is like bottom ~50% - 620 can anybody have, who just farms +4 keys.
Yoda is more like talking about +12 and up
Everything (even on +12 keys) is doomed currently.
The M+ squish hitted hard. There are so many boosted players currently (and i mean seriously boosted, not just bad) in the last few weeks its crazy. havent had that much/or atleast they are not spotted by me, in thel ast seasons.
I was more a fan of the old +20 as weekly - the playerbase was more spread - and it didnt felt that bad to play in "low" keys to farm crests.
Feels like toxicity is even higher now, seeing so many 2.7k players on their alts in +4/7 keys, who are litterly getting mad because ppl are bad, and they dont understand, that they are learning... nearly everything till +7 can be "carried" or done without much effort - and then comes the true learning curve for "normal" players.
@ even if that’s the case, player io is starting to mean absolutely nothing, I’ve seen 2.6k in pally tank miss patty cake over and over, calls team bad and dips. The content has a good level of difficulty, the problem I’m seeing is people rolling for meta classes without understand why they are meta and without using the utility they have.
@Knote3 that's sad honestly and not true for the vast majority of players
Yoda, You've been playing dps lately, is further key progress on your pala impossible at current state of the game? Will next patch change anything - the new ring and stuff?
Wish I could just queue up as whatever spec I wanted. 12 and up, sure, make me play meta. Not being able to find tanks at a 2, 4, or 6 is insane.
The only true and real advice is to play the most common god comp and nothing else, do not play rogue, do not play mage. If you want to be invited to keys you play Prot pal, Disc, Aug, DK or enhance, nothing else.
Womp womp, have a big IO score as main. Thats basicly this vid. Try it with a fresh account. No cheating please.
Would make e nice series to for people to watch
"Try it with a fresh account" sure, lvl up a meta class to 80, buy the 570 gear from ah (its 10k gold), invite a full heroic then a full normal raid run for yourself ( no1 is on your token, no1 is on your armor type, for example: lvl 80 shaman, no other mail and pala/priest/sham), then u prob around 600 i lvl with meta class and even tho u have 0 score some1 still gonna invite you around a +5 key, you loot your lets say +5 key and u can start farming +8-10 by pushing it. Thats how you gear a fresh char, i just did this method with my prot pala, and i got 2k and 610 i lvl in 1 day. And since it was fresh char, ppl were unable to see my main score.
@@godhand4209 LOL META Just play non meta and make it bit harder. I see lots of people doing it. 2k is nothing with meta class. You got boosted to 2k cus you are meta.
Sadly the only thing that is viable on this list is the reroll part. Everything else is not wrong ofc but it will not change the fact youll have to sit in q for 1h+ most evenings to even hope to play the game.
I'm a 3200 PPala, can't find a group for 15 key in LFG (timed all 14 and few 15s) because there are no 15s in LFG lol
comments are hilarious, goat trying to help y'all get score and you cry that he's out of touch - how do you think he got to rank 1 io? by knowing how to play the game, both inside and outside of keys.
Just fix m+ , make m+ solo q or make life easier for tanks and healers , so people who make keys find actual tanks or and healers , that way everyone get to experience m+ endgame , split the community , makem+ solo q max key to +7 , so people don't farm max crests and that way you get geared and can go to manual key , where the raider io ladder matter , like something , blizzard know what to do , what are they doing rn ? waiting for us to give suggestions always ? they run out of bs to fix ? this is a joke , never seen a big mmo company waiting for people to tell them what to do , thats crazy.
Getting into groups on my 2725 disc priest is much easier than my 2725 pres evoker which I find really odd since the evoker brings good healing and a ton of utility. Far more than the disc. /shrug
Yes, but aug brings all the utility what pres evoker brings. Also, you dont have PI for example on pres, which is doesnt matter around 2.7k score, but ppl are just dmg-whores so they like getting PI. And ofc, since ppl on 2.7k also watch streams they just see the 0 pres evoker and the 45 disc priest in every key, so they gonna choose disc obviously. Sadly the fact that "evoker brings good healing" is not really enough for m+ atm.
@@godhand4209and the output itself isnt great either.
I am employed, what’s going on here?
I heal and my mate tanks so all we look for is dps so when im setting up the group, im looking to cover brez and hero first then mostly its by experience. I will take some off meta specs if they are experienced. I mean i have some specs i prefer, like ret pallies and a warlock. I find shammies have this magical ability to forget they have hero so im not super fond of them. Edit: i will take a dps who cc's and interrupts over anyone. Key frustration
Hey Yoda this is guys, we are done with this shitty annoying game and we are not paying subs for hours of queues anymore. We playing other games like path of exile 2 and would love to see u making content of that. Trust me its a masterpiece. And just wanted to say u are a gift and caring content creator so would be nice if u do that❤
As boomy I cant get invited to +12 with decent group unless I have already done it before :)
I would gladly do 4/8 mythic if the game would give me my spymaster. Ive been saving slots for this whack trinket since week 1
Nothing you said wasn't already the obvious thing to do, which they tell you everywhere. Add people after the run, reroll to fotm specs, get out of lfg as fast as possible. Most of us who are pugging just want to play the game without having to go through the whole social interaction part of it, while still progressing your character (in b4 idiots start replying, 'OMG IT'S A MMORPG'). It's 2024, we're not the happy social kids we were back in 2008, sure some if you still are but I'm talking about the majority. You're also not really in a position to say you pugged on your alts when all of your chars are showing 3640 io main score when you queue for something. Ofc you're going to get invited, people will check who you are with that high score and just inv you.
wow has become waaaay too hard for 90% or even more of the active m+ players, it has never been so obvious that score and ilevel means absolutly nothing, for tanks 3k score means 2k score and for healers the same, since they get invited everywhere. also lust dps are inflated in a similar way. this game is way to hard for the avarage skill ppl bring, and no one is talking about it.
Tank is literally the least carriable role. 3k score == 2k for tanks is ludicrous. So many tank busters this season, if the tank doesnt play properly the key is over in no time
anyway what da hell is LFG?
hhello can you give US your nameplate?
LFG is for pugs yet you talk about things that only matter in 12+ premade group. Like "Be willing to take on jobs" what do you mean jobs lol
more discouragement to link your key , straight up reroll in order to play , . Damn the state of the game rn.
Did this dude pug this season ? :)
no
I have mastered step 3.a)
Tl;dr; Play prot paladin😂
funny how a guy that never does LFG is teaching people how to do LFG. Thats like Bronny James teaching kids how to work hard in a low income family
It is not that difficult to figure out. You either play meta spec to get invited to keys or you play off meta in a premade group. Obviously you can easily find groups below 12 no matter what class you are but past that you just need to follow yoda's advice.
This guy delusional. He should name his video: How to pug with 3800 score.
@@Robin...222 idk, wanted to main brewmaster. Dont really get invited to anything above a 10, swap to my prot pally and ita free real estate to get in keys. Quite a bit of his advice applies.
cope, he absolutely does LFG and this is all good advice
@@cheeseorwhatever no he doesn't. all his runs are with the same group of players
Maybe a “hot take” but if you’re any type of serious about keys you should be trying to get out of full pugging in the LFG with no comms. You aren’t going to just log on, slam a few quick 15’s with no comms with random people on a Thursday night. Pugging/LFG is totally fine for keys in the 10-13 ish range.
You don't know anything about PUG's. You've been playing all this time with the top DPS players of your region. The PUGS will destroy you.