@@PurposeDriven7_ yeah, but you move towards the stage... and he has the glider. The only time this character won't make it back to the stage is when he dies.
Oh it actually took negative time, GimR theorized this as after seeing the frame data from Sakurai’s moveset vid. M2K and Salem have now confirmed that it is possible
@@AmGJaG829 What down smash projectile are you talking about? Steve's down smash is lava bucket, which isn't a projectile, and Fox's down smash is a split kick.
@@actuallynotcool5262 I mean insane block combos, carts, and tnt for ledge trapping edgegaurding and combos because you can use these tools to control the stage to make landing combos easier
I can confirm as a YL main that my Up Air will just ignore Steves Anvil and hit him. Also Steve is going to struggle heavily with projectile based characters as well as combo/rushdown characters.
Thats not true there is a delay, but you can place blocks a little after. If you hold the button it will buffer the block when you do it, you will usually need to use your jump on most stages tho
Just by saying that this combo works against Palutena and Inkling you just made a bunch of people main this character now if not than at least make as a secondary.
@@TGHunter did you watch the steve presentation? Also it is a teleport that has a hitbox, it would run into the block which would destroy it, but also stop the recovery. However, pika could just dj thunder
Disgusting, isn't it? and he only needs iron to do it, but we already have stuff like that, for example bowser can take you to 32% with upthrow + fair, and at least that dthrow doesn't kill you by itself
@@JoJo-wb1eb Well they are pretty bad, sure they are fast but they break about as easily as wood, its better to use gold in the nether to trade with piglins
@@tdc3477 you're confusing me, the first thing you mentioned is smash and the second is minecraft. My point is that gold is bad in minecraft but is good in the right scenarios in smash
Depends on what kind of aggressive characters. I mostly play swordies, and damn is it hard to fight against Steve. His tether grab and starting blocks makes it very hard get in on him. Additionally, you’re almost forced to approach since allowing him to mine is a very bad idea. His blocks also makes movement very inconvenient when you approach. Characters with song ranged attack that can interrupt his mining are much better off. They can better find an opportunity to approach since Steve can’t just mine for free because of the tangled attack, and they can keep Steve in disadvantage.
There’s also a nasty move where if you place a block directly off ledge at head level. Then back throw someone into the block. It spikes them off the ledge. Nasty
Inkling gets bodied by this if she goes directly to the ledge, but if the combo starts at 0%, she has ways to get around it. She can stall her recovery really well: she can go very low with her up B + she has a double jump. If there is a wall on the stage like PS2 or Kalos she can stall with her wall jump as well. It makes it a 50/50 to make steve place blocks later than rather instantly. She can probably go under the stage as well after getting spiked.
The uptilt> up-air chain can go to 9(70% wooden axe) . I found a trick on dk: uptilt>uptilt>up-air> place a block then immediately falling up-air and land on the block (tricky) up-air>up-air> place a block> uptilt> uptilt. Bam 70 percent. Also try out cancelling up-smash with blocks IT HAS POTENTIAL TO BE BUSTED BRUH.
@@ightimmaheadout3776 Even without diamond you can prob get 50% off of one combo, and I imagine that that combo will at least get close to killing at ledge even with wooden.
Inkling can avoid this by stalling or moving away from directly under the ledge with Side-B and jumping out of it then up-bing, better than instant death
I'm actually really impressed the mobs in the background have the exact AI as in the game. That's attention to detail. I kinda wish you can do something with them, like kill them for items.
M2K I found out they didn't properly make the blocks interact with Bayo's wicked weaves. Her smash attack literally go through them. Down smash does break it a little but it's only the first hitbox that breaks the block.
It works on any recoveries that don't have a hit box. So most teleport recoveries this will work. Also if you exhaust all your dirt and start making the blocks with wood or iron recoveries that DO have a hit box won't just eat right through it
If u use an iron block they do care since it’s actually stops them from breaking through the bottom so this could be good in a lot of matchups if you have iron blocks. But they will break from the side and tether recoveries still go through it
One big thing I've noticed is that the blocks you place 100% matter. Dirt can easily gimp anyone without a hitbox or extreamly little damage on the recovery(palu, pika). Characters with medium damage on their recovery can be blocked with stone or wood(fox or falco maybe?), recoverys that are strong require iron(Link, Ryu). I haven't really tested this so the characters I use are just examples. Fox and Falco might be able to break them, i'm just using what I thought of as a "medium damage" recovery Another thing I've noticed is if the block is directly on ledge(right where you grab it) the enemy can still snap to ledge and will break the block. Its much more reliable to place the blocks 1 away from ledge(out or down) to prevent characters with a good snap getting close enough to do so
You could hold the block button using stronger blocks such as stone and iron because if you hold the button if fixes the block before it even breaks. This could be used to gimp characters such a mario, corrin, and donkey kong when they recover low. I have done this a lot online it it works pretty well
Using iron blocks (possibly even wood/stone) will gimp a LOT more characters. Multi hit recoveries will still mostly ignore but single hit or even just a couple hit recoveries will not break it, or will break but cancel height on a head bonk
If you have your double jump still, you can just fall, side b to the ledge, double jump and recover without needing to worry about blocks with palutena
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So GimR's pre-release 0 to death is real
The GimZ alwayZ winZ
It really wasnt that hard to imagine 😁
Lets just call it the GimR's dunk and he is satisfied 🤙
I'm pretty nervous that he is also going to have a ladder off the top against lighter characters.
@@tobyvision I think his jump is too short to be able to make it true
@@dasuberpanda you may be right. I haven't bought this year's dlc so I can't try it. But that up smash has a pretty generous scoop hitbox.
Imagine how deadly Steve will be by the end of this week if we are already getting combos like this
Bruh they found a min min 0 to death and literally no one is hitting it
He not gonna be that crazy. Made his recovery sound like it was meta Knight brawl recovery. He also can’t build blocks on far parts of the stage
Tbf that happens with every DLC in the first week
@@PurposeDriven7_ yeah, but you move towards the stage... and he has the glider. The only time this character won't make it back to the stage is when he dies.
y r u in the comment section in every single video on youtube?
A DLC CHARACTER THAT INVALIDATES PALUTENA
Sakurai is a good man
@@boobalooba_ Joker might actually be relatively fine because at 0% he won't have Arsene meaning his recovery is a grapple.
@@boobalooba_ In this video, they say tethers are immune to that.
@@boobalooba_
As joker you can stall in the air with ehia and rebels guard and wait for the blocks to break then recover
meanwhile *Buffs pikachu*
I thought Palutena was his waifu.
This took no time at all
Oh it actually took negative time, GimR theorized this as after seeing the frame data from Sakurai’s moveset vid. M2K and Salem have now confirmed that it is possible
Facts
This took no time at all
That pfp is amazing
It barely took anything and still we don’t even know this character’a potential. Imagine Steve’s meta in a month
MWUHAHAHAHAHAHA
Do you think Steve is S tier?
@@ArctecZ Steve is S-teve tier
@@mr.wasgehtsiedasan8594 heck yes
Gimr the Time God
My man with the reads
Steve 0-Deaths that will tuck you in at night
Lol
Larry lurr fan?
@@mtjindi Maybe😆
LOL
I like steve O
i never thought i would have to worry about block trapping outside of hypixel
The S in S tier stans for Steve confirmed.
Almost thought you said “sans” instead of “stans”
Stands*
Not at all.
Nice
I meant to type *stands* but I'm not gonna fix it now 😂
3:00 for the combo
Thx
Thanks, I've been searching for this
I’d love to see a vid of recoveries vs blocks.
Same
Trust me that’s soon to come.
Yes!
I already know that my main and secondary won't make it to the ledge :(
@@grotto185 I know i don't have to go to ledge
So Steve is the tier flipper: struggles against rushdown little mac but 0-to-deaths Palu.
And I’m a little Mac main!!
Not if you never craft
But Steve is the biggest anti-Little Mac character to exist. His down smash and forward throw are instant death for Mac.
@@zettour. Fox is going to be hard because down smash is a projectile
@@AmGJaG829 What down smash projectile are you talking about? Steve's down smash is lava bucket, which isn't a projectile, and Fox's down smash is a split kick.
Holy crap Jason looks way better with his hair fully shaved as opposed to the slow balding he had earlier. Looking very slick and handsome Mew2king
Handsome2king
Maybe I’m just nostalgic but I liked the balding look
Man Steve is going to be the new Pac-Man with those Big Brained Combos
9 billion IQ Steve combos when!!!!!!!!!
Wdym big brain
@@actuallynotcool5262 I mean insane block combos, carts, and tnt for ledge trapping edgegaurding and combos because you can use these tools to control the stage to make landing combos easier
0 to death discovery any% speedrun
Gimr found this one before Steve was even out
Different categories
0 to death discovery pre release% speedrun
Lol he's been out for an hour and a half
I feel like Steve might struggle a bit with very aerial-based characters.
I can confirm as a YL main that my Up Air will just ignore Steves Anvil and hit him.
Also Steve is going to struggle heavily with projectile based characters as well as combo/rushdown characters.
I can also confirm that Cloud bair is pretty good against Steve
Samus also makes steve hurt
@@FYRDXGR when you hit the anvil does it disappears?
@@Geneolgia no, not that I know of.
So far, this character seems pretty...
well-Crafted.
Get out
BOOOO
GET OF THE STAGE
You madman
I hope that one SCP that throws very high speed tomatoes when someone makes a bad pun is near you
You evil people...
I'ma pull this in a tournament
Dude M2K is GLOWING these days. I'm happy for him! Coming forward with those things seems to have done a world of good. Good on ya bro.
You can't place a block AT ALL after letting go of ledge. There's a delay to prevent edge camping.
Your Vinesauce animations are great, man! Just wanted to say that.
Thats not true there is a delay, but you can place blocks a little after. If you hold the button it will buffer the block when you do it, you will usually need to use your jump on most stages tho
Sonic when recovering with a block on ledge hangs onto the block instead of the ledge, and when the block breaks, it teleports him onto the ledge.
w h a t
N i c e
H e h e y e a h b o i
Sonic cheats lol
I discovered that Charizard's Flare Blitz gets stopped by a single block, so you can read his recovery and he'll hit the block and bounce away.
Blocks count as walls. You can block almost all attacks and even tech into them.
time to tech spikes
I gotta buy Steve now
Even worse, the crafting table stops it...
@@Nekotaku_TV that's so op
Gimping ness with blocks is really effective
Just by saying that this combo works against Palutena and Inkling you just made a bunch of people main this character now if not than at least make as a secondary.
Palutena, Inkling, Zelda, Greninja, Hero, Little Mac, Pikachu AND Pichu,
Steve here invalidating little macs recovery.
Im pretty sure little macs recovery might be better here then some of the cast. What a timeline we live in
@@Sans-oc1ie Pikachu and pichu breaks the block.
And im pretty sure m2k said that anything with hitboxes pass through the blocks.
@@TGHunter did you watch the steve presentation?
Also it is a teleport that has a hitbox, it would run into the block which would destroy it, but also stop the recovery. However, pika could just dj thunder
1:15 so we're all going to act like this is normal 18% just from dthrow
It almost does 19% lmao
Disgusting, isn't it? and he only needs iron to do it, but we already have stuff like that, for example bowser can take you to 32% with upthrow + fair, and at least that dthrow doesn't kill you by itself
I noticed it and was like *bruh*
@@noirlavender6409 yeah, and meanwhile, Yoshi's dair does a whopping 35 %, combos at low percents and kills at higher ones :D
wait until you get a load of M A G U M A B L O C K
I was just thinking people who go from smash to Minecraft who have never played Minecraft are going to think gold tools are good
Oh no
More like ppl coming from minecraft thinking gold tools are bad
@@JoJo-wb1eb Well they are pretty bad, sure they are fast but they break about as easily as wood, its better to use gold in the nether to trade with piglins
@@tdc3477 you're confusing me, the first thing you mentioned is smash and the second is minecraft. My point is that gold is bad in minecraft but is good in the right scenarios in smash
@@JoJo-wb1eb I never mentioned smash, and you said people coming from minecraft thinking gold is bad. You are confusing me now
@@tdc3477 yeah he said people in Minecraft will think gold is bad but it’s not in smash
I think Steve wouldn't do well with stupid aggressive characters, so I think he'll be bopped by Joker.
As a joker player, this is true so far. Maybe it'll change over time but so far it isn't so bad on my end
Depends on what kind of aggressive characters. I mostly play swordies, and damn is it hard to fight against Steve. His tether grab and starting blocks makes it very hard get in on him. Additionally, you’re almost forced to approach since allowing him to mine is a very bad idea. His blocks also makes movement very inconvenient when you approach.
Characters with song ranged attack that can interrupt his mining are much better off. They can better find an opportunity to approach since Steve can’t just mine for free because of the tangled attack, and they can keep Steve in disadvantage.
@@AlfredEiji that's why I said joker would bop him
I was having a hard time but managed to win against a Sonic
@@kezare569 I said aggressive, not campy.
Nah all jokes aside, nice, I think that Steve will do well in smash, and good job on your win.
This video reminds me of that kid that really wants to show you something they are very proud of, but they weren’t ready to show anyone yet.
Steve is the man who will literally build your grave.
Lets not forget this video is literally godsent by one of the gods.
0:52 lmao the enderman in the background with his block
Ridiculous how people just instantly find insane combos with this new fighter and it hasn't even been 24 hours yet, lol.
How is jab jab jab fair a sick combo
@@emeraldcitycs6662 It is if it is from steve
Best part of the video was the smile after M2K made that "blocked off" pun. These two guys have a great dynamic lol I love it
People: Steve is weird. Me: looks at mr game and watch
Nope still weird
Nope still weird
@@lillith7257 Nope what?
Game and Watch isn't weird... lol
@@Seltkirk-ABC weirder than steve for sure.
4:29 detachable levitating hand
sounds familiar
"Just SDI" is back
I was so upset when m2king stopped gis stream to start labbing Steve with out us, but i feel much relief now.
Ha you fools, didn’t know the power levels of Minecraft Steve and now you are witnessing it first hand *anime smirk and laugh*
not sure how to tell everyone but I just found that ricter and simon can bounce off of steve's crafting table, you heard it from me first.
Well he bounce off of everything he hits so yeah
🙏🙏🙏🙏
goddamnit the characters been out for 3 hours how the hell
Gimr said this would be possible before he even came out
There’s also a nasty move where if you place a block directly off ledge at head level. Then back throw someone into the block. It spikes them off the ledge. Nasty
Inkling gets bodied by this if she goes directly to the ledge, but if the combo starts at 0%, she has ways to get around it. She can stall her recovery really well: she can go very low with her up B + she has a double jump. If there is a wall on the stage like PS2 or Kalos she can stall with her wall jump as well. It makes it a 50/50 to make steve place blocks later than rather instantly. She can probably go under the stage as well after getting spiked.
Salem did not look happy
Even if the 0-Death fails, Steve can still ledge trap with blocks and TNT so it does definitely have uses against other characters.
Vruh Steve isn't even out for a full day!!!
Bruh*
@@Sans-oc1ie I intentionally spelled vruh
@@mangaprofilepicture5820 oh ok sorry
Actually less than 13 hours.
I can see palutena doing up air on first air jump and then up B, grabbing the ledge.
oh yeah, that'd do it at the % shown
I think her up air lasts too long.
I like how Steve simultaneously fucks top tiers recoveries and also makes byleth a more viable character to fight Steve
The uptilt> up-air chain can go to 9(70% wooden axe) . I found a trick on dk: uptilt>uptilt>up-air> place a block then immediately falling up-air and land on the block (tricky) up-air>up-air> place a block> uptilt> uptilt. Bam 70 percent. Also try out cancelling up-smash with blocks IT HAS POTENTIAL TO BE BUSTED BRUH.
Someone claims they found kill confirm at 50% with diamond
Down-throw, f-smash :P
You get 50% off of one diamond up tilt...
@@62049 It takes a long time to get diamonds, so that's F-air.
@@ightimmaheadout3776 Even without diamond you can prob get 50% off of one combo, and I imagine that that combo will at least get close to killing at ledge even with wooden.
@@62049 Wack. But I mean it's supposed to be a casual fighting game so we don't really need to nerf him, we just need to have fun.
@@ightimmaheadout3776 When did I say I wanted this nerfed?
steve the slayer of top tiers
Inkling can avoid this by stalling or moving away from directly under the ledge with Side-B and jumping out of it then up-bing, better than instant death
From what I've tested, down tilt can combo into running grab. That means if you land a down tilt, you can kill off of it at 0.
I'm actually really impressed the mobs in the background have the exact AI as in the game. That's attention to detail. I kinda wish you can do something with them, like kill them for items.
It's been less then a week...
*IT'S BEEN LESS THEN A WEEK*
M2K I found out they didn't properly make the blocks interact with Bayo's wicked weaves. Her smash attack literally go through them. Down smash does break it a little but it's only the first hitbox that breaks the block.
All blocks ?
@@ihideinthereplies Yes all of them, I even made a video showing it
This is the beggining of the scariest online ever
It works on any recoveries that don't have a hit box. So most teleport recoveries this will work. Also if you exhaust all your dirt and start making the blocks with wood or iron recoveries that DO have a hit box won't just eat right through it
The only Steve combo I know is short hop Fair (which uses the sword because it's a short hop) into falling Fair (which uses the pickaxe).
The chosen one named Steve has resurfaced...
Blocks destroy Steve’s recovery
Me after seeing this video: "Finally."
4:25 Mew2King has Marth's grab range
😂😂
If u use an iron block they do care since it’s actually stops them from breaking through the bottom so this could be good in a lot of matchups if you have iron blocks. But they will break from the side and tether recoveries still go through it
Sleeping man in the bottom right corner be like:
⠀
Bald man
M2K so blessed he got away with the Smash controversy so he could continue to e-beg and play Steve.
"We tried against palutena and inkling". I mean those are my main and secondary so...
Steve has luigi grabs but also game&watch frame data while having the strength of a heavy
I understand why game creators are so anxious
We got people like mew2king in the world
One big thing I've noticed is that the blocks you place 100% matter. Dirt can easily gimp anyone without a hitbox or extreamly little damage on the recovery(palu, pika). Characters with medium damage on their recovery can be blocked with stone or wood(fox or falco maybe?), recoverys that are strong require iron(Link, Ryu).
I haven't really tested this so the characters I use are just examples. Fox and Falco might be able to break them, i'm just using what I thought of as a "medium damage" recovery
Another thing I've noticed is if the block is directly on ledge(right where you grab it) the enemy can still snap to ledge and will break the block. Its much more reliable to place the blocks 1 away from ledge(out or down) to prevent characters with a good snap getting close enough to do so
Laughs on GuH-HuH coming back from the depths of hell
Jason has the Mine part down but he keeps forgetting the Craft part
example of irony:
watching smash combo tutorials when you dont have a switch
I thought I was the only one
The King always giving us his knowledge
Who would have thought that Bayo's combo throne in Sm4sh would have been taken by Minecraft?
Tip: Place a block close to the stage, offstage; then you forward smash them while the try to recover
What if you wanted to return to stage
But the cube man said *no*
You could hold the block button using stronger blocks such as stone and iron because if you hold the button if fixes the block before it even breaks. This could be used to gimp characters such a mario, corrin, and donkey kong when they recover low. I have done this a lot online it it works pretty well
Ldgetrap: the character
But what about a late-match scenario using Iron blocks instead?
That's what I was thinking. You'd think that Iron blocks could block nearly any character's recovery.
@@Sam-sp9og eh you tend to end up with a lot of dirt and stuff.
You use your weakest material first. But you can see a clip on twitter of corrins entire recovery being stopped by just stone so its a strategy.
I can see this scenario happening if you're doing lots of tnt or long rails right before
Dude in purple is literally in the video for absolutely no reason.
Oh lord the devils combo has been released
4:22 Portal in smash confirmed
i like the blackguy sitting there not saying anything
The moment I saw that jab in rhe direct I knew it was going to be very useful.
Gimr with the amazing reads
Couldn't Palutena just wait for the blocks to vanish? Maybe save her jump then up + B?
If you have no other materials but iron, the iron blocks will make the combo work on more characters, like wolf
Good grief. It hasn’t even been 24 hours.
Is this gonna be another joker situation where the supposed "drawbacks" of the character aren't anywhere near bad enough?
Well, someone thinks he is the worst character in the game.
I have never seen a character that needs a a nerf as early as Steve/Alex
Using iron blocks (possibly even wood/stone) will gimp a LOT more characters. Multi hit recoveries will still mostly ignore but single hit or even just a couple hit recoveries will not break it, or will break but cancel height on a head bonk
You can’t lay a block after out of ledge grabbing, but Kirby can LmaO
Sick ending tho xD
This felt like m2ks video.💪
You didn't even try to anvil after a successful spike.
If you have your double jump still, you can just fall, side b to the ledge, double jump and recover without needing to worry about blocks with palutena
granted, not from the combo, but to prevent blocks at the edge in general
M2k master class have a great night everybody!
It didn’t “block” it off at all *eyebrow raises. What you did, it’s there, and I see it M2K hahaha!
"Let's say you're Steve" ex dee
Blocks work pretty well against Lucina
Can’t wait to get counterpicked to Kalos by a Steve main only for them to get infinite diamonds