I so agree with you about the treasures staying in Troy in a museum. It’s the same in Pompeii. And about preserving the ruins by using the walkways being important. Franz & I carried our dogs in our arms around Herculaneum a couple of weeks ago, and the overseers loved us because we didn’t try to trick them, and put the dogs down when out of sight in the ancient villas. It’s all so precious. I loved seeing the ramp, and fyi, of course it’s the very one described in the legends! Seriously, thanks for showing me Troy. This was so cool! Now I’m going to see your favourite ruin in the whole world.
Thanks so much! It’s been really heart warming hearing that others love and appreciate these sites. They are often overlooked on social media 😭 Also, love that you didn’t just let your dogs run through the site. Max respect
I love this series. Turkey is a dream destination for me and I’m a big geek for Roman/Greek/Turkish History. “here we are knocking on the trojan gates” lol. The Aegean Sea is surprisingly close to the ramp and from that vantage point I question how they didn’t see this ambush.
😅 thanks so much! Appreciate it. If you love that kind of history, you would absolutely love Turkey. We have 4 more videos on different ancient cities coming up. There is just so much to see
I am a geek for historical stuff, and I've always loved reading the Iliad and Roman mythology! This is a dream to see in person, rubbles or what. Thanks for sharing!
I'm loving this series, even though I've been watching them out of order. It was super interesting to hear your take on visiting Troy, and it seems like a place we'd visit if we're ever in the area.
Thanks so much! It's so nice to see people watching to whole series. haha We liked Troy a lot, ad it's crazy, because it's not even the most extensive of ruins in the area.
I always thought of Troy as an island. I guess because of the ships used to arrive. Weird. But that looked very cool. Much better than what I had heard of it; a lot more still exists than I imagined. Thanks for sharing!
I went to the comments to see if anyone had answered why Romans were better stonemasons than the Middle Ages builders but no one has answered yet???? 🤷♀
World first cultures Lepenski vir, Starcevo, Vinca culture today Serbia. World first industrial revolution ca. 6000 BC. Bronze metallurgy. (BBC History news March 2010) Gordon Childe-The Danube in Prehistory, Jacque Pirenne-Agriculture at Danube Farming start about 6000 BC. Vinca First Calendar start to count years at 5508 BC. (Now in 2024 we have year 7532) Farming wouldn’t be possible without knowledge of calendar. Both development started and developed together. Harald Harman about first cyrillic writings in Vinca culture in 5500 BC so 2000 years before any writings anywhere else on the world. Vinca Iron production 1400 BC. In today English language there is more than 2000 same or similar Serbian words. Names of the Balkan tribes: Pelasgians, Mycenaeans, Etruscan, Wendi, Illiyrians, Macedonians, Dardanians (Original Troy is here, not in Turkey Homer wrote sea is freezing in the winter-Panonian sea), Moesians, Dacians, Tracians, Rasci, Celts, Scythians, Sarmatians, Arians, Sea People, Peleset, Philistines, Hittites, Bhrygians. Tribes spread in all directions all over Europe and Asia ……. Wild Greeks arived ~ 1000 BC from Egipt, Hungarian from Asia and Bulgariens from Asia they found culture on the Balkans, writings and language and they mixed with domestic people. 18 Roman emperors were born in Serbia because of Etruscan connection. After Trojan war many groups of people left Troy in all directions to middle Europe, northern Europe to Britain and Scandinavia, south to Anatolia.One group under Aeneas sat sail with 22 ships and about 3400 followers and reach Italy-Etruscans.
Troy place of Trojans the dardanians deriving by the dodanim of the Bible. Had a mountain of worship it’s where it began worship of Greek gods. Take with a grain of salt that Dardanelles came from dodanim and their heirs are possibly the people of Kosova. Peace and love
Your coverage of out the way sites is interesting, although it would be more enticing if you actually offered more historical girth to what you’re filming, beyond "Big Rocks." The visuals on Troy were better than most, although again shallow regarding the history. Last point, your "looting" homily is unwittingly scurrilous. In the case of Troy, and many other sites around the world, if it were not for the "Big Powers" you chastised, Troy would still be under 3,000+ years of dirt. Western adventurers and scholars invented archaeology and the sciences that have uncovered and preserved the past as well as financed the expeditions. Many of the sites you visited are strewn with fields of artifacts that belong in museums or sheltered, but Turkey is too poor to accomplish the task. Moreover, what non-Western scholars have learned regarding preservation came originally from the West. These facts may be uncomfortable for some Western travelers weaned on "Big Power" guilt, as well as embarrassing for countries dependent on the West's largesse, but that's the history. You should recognize the cooperative efforts that have evolved between Western and non-Western countries to preserve the past. Indeed, most looters of artifacts around the world are locals. So, enjoy your trek of discovery, but spare the viewer your misplaced finger pointing at the "Big Powers" and the past.
I think I’ll do as I please mate. But your argument is so ridiculous and off course there is no use continuing it in a TH-cam comment. Your revisionist view is too laughably rosy, an emotional and ideological argument if I’ve seen one, but not supported by the evidence. Love your appreciation of the thesaurus, but come on mate that isn’t the history of archeology and you know it. You are not the west, you don’t need to defend everything it’s ever done.
Also the ancestors of the Romans if you believe their stories. Notedly though of course is that Troy does predate what we often call “Greek” but some of the layers for later on in the settlements history are Greek and even Roman. When talking about such an old city with so much history, many people can lay rightfully claim to it. It can be Greek, Hittite, Roman, and more depending on which stone you point to and what you want to say. - I think most people at familiar with Troy from popular Greek myth though, which is why I chose to emphasise that. To give people something to grasp on to.
@Samanyolu-ov1yk Don't talk stupid, you embarrass us and then they know us like that because of people like you. Turks were in Central Asia at that time, you don't understand history, go read it first. At that time the Turks were fighting the Mongols
I so agree with you about the treasures staying in Troy in a museum. It’s the same in Pompeii. And about preserving the ruins by using the walkways being important. Franz & I carried our dogs in our arms around Herculaneum a couple of weeks ago, and the overseers loved us because we didn’t try to trick them, and put the dogs down when out of sight in the ancient villas. It’s all so precious. I loved seeing the ramp, and fyi, of course it’s the very one described in the legends! Seriously, thanks for showing me Troy. This was so cool! Now I’m going to see your favourite ruin in the whole world.
Thanks so much! It’s been really heart warming hearing that others love and appreciate these sites. They are often overlooked on social media 😭
Also, love that you didn’t just let your dogs run through the site. Max respect
Nice video, looking forward for your next instalment
Thanks so much! So are we :D
I love this series. Turkey is a dream destination for me and I’m a big geek for Roman/Greek/Turkish History. “here we are knocking on the trojan gates” lol. The Aegean Sea is surprisingly close to the ramp and from that vantage point I question how they didn’t see this ambush.
😅 thanks so much! Appreciate it. If you love that kind of history, you would absolutely love Turkey. We have 4 more videos on different ancient cities coming up. There is just so much to see
Hope you fulfill this dream
I am a geek for historical stuff, and I've always loved reading the Iliad and Roman mythology! This is a dream to see in person, rubbles or what. Thanks for sharing!
I hope you do it. Turkey is a great place to start. Check out our other Turkey videos. They have plenty of that. :)
I'm loving this series, even though I've been watching them out of order. It was super interesting to hear your take on visiting Troy, and it seems like a place we'd visit if we're ever in the area.
Thanks so much! It's so nice to see people watching to whole series. haha
We liked Troy a lot, ad it's crazy, because it's not even the most extensive of ruins in the area.
I always thought of Troy as an island. I guess because of the ships used to arrive. Weird. But that looked very cool. Much better than what I had heard of it; a lot more still exists than I imagined. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks so much!
We also had some weird assumptions checked as well :D
the sea used to be closer to the city back then
3,000 years of silt will do that. It's part of what made the city's so hard to find, the residential areas are covered in alluvial deposits
You guys, I'm getting a bit nervous about the museum card. It's already the second video and there's still like 300 left? I want to believe!
hahahah have faith brother!
A great video and I enjoy your outlook to historical sites. Who is to say this is not really Troy?
Thank you! 😎
very informative video
Thanks! 🥰
Great video
Thank you so much!
what month were you there? thanks!
We were there in January!
which app do you recommend for turkey ????
Sorry I don't think we recommended an app. I can't think of any!
@@NearFromHome ah i thought you Showed one in your Videos. Ok thank you
I m sorry that I have come across your video after 2 years
Don’t worry, no one watched our Turkey series, lol. But that’s their loss not mine!!
@@NearFromHome but i did. And i will make everybody i know watch your videos. You present my country very accurate and nice. :)
The Sea people ravaged Troy during the Bronze age.
What do you think about a cleanliness in turkish city, i mean not much litter...?
It was very nice! Canakkale reminded us of a Greek town. We were in Izmir late in the trip, and it was also very clean and orderly.
@@NearFromHome wow, i though Turkey a dirty country..,😁😁
But are there not many layers of Troy? Newer Troy built on top of older Troy.
Yes! I thought we mentioned that. Maybe I edited it out. Either way it is so fascinating. :D
I went to the comments to see if anyone had answered why Romans were better stonemasons than the Middle Ages builders but no one has answered yet???? 🤷♀
hahahah IKR. I need an article link! I have some vague ideas, but need a professor to write a lengthy article.
World first cultures Lepenski vir, Starcevo, Vinca culture today Serbia.
World first industrial revolution ca. 6000 BC. Bronze metallurgy. (BBC History news March 2010)
Gordon Childe-The Danube in Prehistory, Jacque Pirenne-Agriculture at Danube
Farming start about 6000 BC. Vinca First Calendar start to count years at 5508 BC. (Now in 2024 we have year 7532) Farming wouldn’t be possible without knowledge of calendar. Both development started and developed together.
Harald Harman about first cyrillic writings in Vinca culture in 5500 BC so 2000 years before any writings anywhere else on the world.
Vinca Iron production 1400 BC.
In today English language there is more than 2000 same or similar Serbian words.
Names of the Balkan tribes: Pelasgians, Mycenaeans, Etruscan, Wendi, Illiyrians, Macedonians, Dardanians (Original Troy is here, not in Turkey Homer wrote sea is freezing in the winter-Panonian sea), Moesians, Dacians, Tracians, Rasci, Celts, Scythians, Sarmatians, Arians, Sea People, Peleset, Philistines, Hittites, Bhrygians. Tribes spread in all directions all over Europe and Asia …….
Wild Greeks arived ~ 1000 BC from Egipt, Hungarian from Asia and Bulgariens from Asia they found culture on the Balkans, writings and language and they mixed with domestic people. 18 Roman emperors were born in Serbia because of Etruscan connection.
After Trojan war many groups of people left Troy in all directions to middle Europe, northern Europe to Britain and Scandinavia, south to Anatolia.One group under Aeneas sat sail with 22 ships and about 3400 followers and reach Italy-Etruscans.
Y no bring home bby 😺?
My deepest regret in life
Guid dog
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This is not city of Troy
wut
Troy place of Trojans the dardanians deriving by the dodanim of the Bible. Had a mountain of worship it’s where it began worship of Greek gods. Take with a grain of salt that Dardanelles came from dodanim and their heirs are possibly the people of Kosova. Peace and love
Thanks you!
Your coverage of out the way sites is interesting, although it would be more enticing if you actually offered more historical girth to what you’re filming, beyond "Big Rocks." The visuals on Troy were better than most, although again shallow regarding the history.
Last point, your "looting" homily is unwittingly scurrilous. In the case of Troy, and many other sites around the world, if it were not for the "Big Powers" you chastised, Troy would still be under 3,000+ years of dirt. Western adventurers and scholars invented archaeology and the sciences that have uncovered and preserved the past as well as financed the expeditions. Many of the sites you visited are strewn with fields of artifacts that belong in museums or sheltered, but Turkey is too poor to accomplish the task. Moreover, what non-Western scholars have learned regarding preservation came originally from the West. These facts may be uncomfortable for some Western travelers weaned on "Big Power" guilt, as well as embarrassing for countries dependent on the West's largesse, but that's the history. You should recognize the cooperative efforts that have evolved between Western and non-Western countries to preserve the past. Indeed, most looters of artifacts around the world are locals. So, enjoy your trek of discovery, but spare the viewer your misplaced finger pointing at the "Big Powers" and the past.
I think I’ll do as I please mate. But your argument is so ridiculous and off course there is no use continuing it in a TH-cam comment. Your revisionist view is too laughably rosy, an emotional and ideological argument if I’ve seen one, but not supported by the evidence. Love your appreciation of the thesaurus, but come on mate that isn’t the history of archeology and you know it. You are not the west, you don’t need to defend everything it’s ever done.
Troy is not greek, Turkos from Troy are the ancestors of the Turks
Also the ancestors of the Romans if you believe their stories. Notedly though of course is that Troy does predate what we often call “Greek” but some of the layers for later on in the settlements history are Greek and even Roman. When talking about such an old city with so much history, many people can lay rightfully claim to it. It can be Greek, Hittite, Roman, and more depending on which stone you point to and what you want to say. - I think most people at familiar with Troy from popular Greek myth though, which is why I chose to emphasise that. To give people something to grasp on to.
@Samanyolu-ov1yk
Don't talk stupid, you embarrass us and then they know us like that because of people like you. Turks were in Central Asia at that time, you don't understand history, go read it first. At that time the Turks were fighting the Mongols